Linux-Hardware Digest #61, Volume #14 Wed, 20 Dec 00 00:13:06 EST
Contents:
Who is happy with their linux/xwindows hardware? ("Dan Hull")
Re: Intel Easy PC camera - cannot be supported in Linux! (glitch)
Re: open gl + Nvidia 9-5 + Tnt under Redhat 7 (Default User)
Zoom / Lucent winmodem with mandrake 7.1 (DANimal)
Re: Hard disk partition problem (Mark Post)
Re: Intel Easy PC camera - cannot be supported in Linux! (jtnews)
Re: Intel Easy PC camera - cannot be supported in Linux! ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
HP Netserver LC 2000r ("Richard Robbins")
Re: open gl + Nvidia 9-5 + Tnt under Redhat 7 (Daniel)
IDE CD-Changer (was Re: ide 6x 4 disk cdrom) (Dances With Crows)
NIC problems (Benner10)
Re: Soundblaster 16 PCI ("lobotomy")
Help with internet connection ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Alpha 2100 and X Windows (TMS Computers)
Re: Intel Easy PC camera - cannot be supported in Linux! ("Kyle Jacobs")
is it possible to net install with scsi drivers? (Wade C Blackwell)
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From: "Dan Hull" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Who is happy with their linux/xwindows hardware?
Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 02:20:17 GMT
I'd like to run linux with xwindows, possibly a multi-monitor setup. Is
there anyone with a fairly recent mass-market, mainly off-the-shelf pc which
they are happy with as a platform for this software? Do you do dual boot or
pure linux?
Any advice about an readily available, fairly trouble-free linux platform,
especially one that can be extended to multi-monitor mode, I'd much
appreciate.
Thanks alot.
Dan Hull
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Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 21:25:53 -0500
From: glitch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Intel Easy PC camera - cannot be supported in Linux!
> It's the end result that matters, not how one arrived or didn't arrive
> at it.
> In this case the end result is taking pictures with a camera.
> Windows can utilize the hardware, and as usual Linux can't.
actually the hardware utilizes Windows. Device manufacturers make the
drivers to work on an OS not the other way around. MS doesn't write
every single driver for all the devices it supports. It's not their job.
They just package it and (proof of this is when I was doing a
REinstallation a cuople weeks ago) they take the credit of saying
Windows support all the newest hardware even though they didn't do a
damn thing to make that happen, the device manufacturer did.
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From: Default User <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: open gl + Nvidia 9-5 + Tnt under Redhat 7
Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 21:27:06 -0500
<!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en">
<html>
After following the Nvidia instructions ( <i><A
HREF="http://www.nvidia.com/Products/Drivers.nsf/Linux.html">http://www.nvidia.com/Products/Drivers.nsf/Linux.html</A></i>
)
<p>( ......<i>Specifically, the following files may cause
problems:</i><i></i>
<p><i> /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libGLcore.a</i>
<br><i> /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libglx.a</i>
<br><i> /usr/lib/libGL.so</i>
<br><i> /usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.so*</i>
<br><i> /usr/X11R6/lib/libGLcore.so* </i>
........ )
<p>I don' know if I had the MESA RPM, but I did rename these files, that
were left unaltered by the Nvidia RPM install.
<p>I installed the GLX and RedHat 7 specific RPM's, <b>NVIDIA_GLX-0.9-5.i386.rpm</b>
and <b>NVIDIA_kernel-0.9-5.i386.rpm</b> for RedHat uni-processor Linux
.
<br>No go.
<br>A --force RPM install yielded kernel version conflicts when insmodding
the kernel driver <b>/sbin/insmod NVdriver</b>.
<br>Then I tried the tar-ball make install. First OpenGL game application
brough the Xwindow to a crash. Trying to edit out all the crap from the
command-line was too hard, no SVGA compatibility mode on RH7 (!), I said
screw it and re-installed the whole shebang.
<p>The August 30 2000 date of the 0.9-5 looks old for a Video driver,
Nvidia wake up.
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<p>Don Ward wrote:
<blockquote TYPE=CITE>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Daniel"
<br><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
<p>> I did follow the instructions word for work, and they have not worked
at all.
<br>> I have even gone to a few other websites and followed there
directions and I
<br>> get the same results. here is the last thing I get in my
error log when I
<br>> try to startx because when I install the drivers, then I
can't get x to come
<br>> back up
<br>>
<br>> (==) NV (0): BACKING STORE DISABLED
<br>> (==) NV (0): SILKEN MOUSE ENABLED
<br>> (II) [GLX]: caling GlxExtensionInit
<br>>
<p>Did you follow the instructions for making sure that you did not have
<br>a conflict with Mesa and the Nvidia opengl support?
<p> If not, then that is most likely where your error is.
<p> Perhaps to get past this error you could comment out the Load
"glx"
<br>portion in your xconfig file.
<p> After hunting down all of the various mesa opengl modules, the
<br>instructions were extremely valuable in helping me do this, I finally
<br>got the below in my gui log file.
<p> Success in getting the nvidia opengl support working!
<p>(II) [GLX]: Calling GlxExtensionInit
<br>(II) [GLX]: adding Xvis: 33 GLXvis: 0 rgba:[5,6,5,0],
<br>
mask[0xf800,0x7e0,0x1f,0x0],db[1],st[8],z[16]
<br>(II) [GLX]: adding Xvis: 35 GLXvis: 1 rgba:[5,6,5,0],
<br>
mask[0xf800,0x7e0,0x1f,0x0],db[0],st[0],z[16]
<br>(II) [GLX]: adding Xvis: 36 GLXvis: 2 rgba:[5,6,5,0],
<br>
mask[0xf800,0x7e0,0x1f,0x0],db[0],st[8],z[16]
<br>(II) [GLX]: adding Xvis: 37 GLXvis: 3 rgba:[5,6,5,0],
<br>
mask[0xf800,0x7e0,0x1f,0x0],db[1],st[0],z[16]
<p>My card is an Nvidia TnT2 with 32mg agp etc. so these instructions
<br>do work.
<p>Good luck
<p>>
<br>> SNIP
<br>>>
<br>>>
<p>--
<br>Don Ward
<br>dwarthogatbresnanlin.knet
<br>Caldera e2.4 KDE2 Xfree401</blockquote>
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From: DANimal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Zoom / Lucent winmodem with mandrake 7.1
Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 02:30:04 -0000
I am fairly new to linux, and only own a winmodem. I downloaded the
ltmodem patch from lucent, but it wont install. I did some manual moving
of files and some insmod stuff to get the new module in the kernel. I can
get it to connect, usually, but it the pppd daemon stops right after i get
an isp connection. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
thx
Danimal
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark Post)
Subject: Re: Hard disk partition problem
Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 02:36:22 GMT
On Wed, 20 Dec 2000 00:31:25 +0000, Richard Kimber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>Mark Post wrote:
-snip-
>>
>> Based on the device numbers sda5 and sda6, I would guess that you have one
>> extended partition, with several logical partitions within it. The
>> extended partition is most likely partition #4, which means that the
>> first, second, etc. logical partitions within it would be /dev/sda5,
>> /dev/sda6, etc.
>> Mark Post
>Hmmmn. Interesting. That could certainly explain it. Though I didn't
>realise that the extended partition within which the logical partitions fit
>gets its own device.
That's because it doesn't. It's just that device names are keyed off
partition numbers (in a general sense). 1>hda1 2>hda2 6>hda6.
The _physical_ (primary/extended) partitions are numbered 1 through 4. The
logical partitions are numbered 5 and up (just in case you define the
maximum number of primary partitions). Since you can't really access an
extended partition, only the logical ones within it, they will start at
/dev/hda5 or /dev/sda5.
Mark Post
Postmodern Consulting
Information Technology and Systems Management Consulting
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Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 21:51:38 -0500
From: jtnews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: Intel Easy PC camera - cannot be supported in Linux!
If I reverse engineer the camera protocol through the USB interface,
develop a Linux driver, distribute the driver under the GPL
over the Internet, can I be sued by Intel for violating their
intellectual property?
Kasper Dupont wrote:
>
> jtnews wrote:
> >
> > The Intel Easy PC camera is not supported in Linux!
> > You can't even write a driver for it!
> >
> > I got it as a "free" add-on with my new Dell Dimension
> > L600cx, but now it seems I made the wrong choice!
> >
> > Why does a $40 cheapo camera have to be proprietary for
> > Intel? I thought Intel made all their money because they make
> > huge volumes of flash memory chips over their competitors.
> >
> > I better choose the Lexmark color printer as a free add on next
> > time!
> >
>
> Of course it is posible to write a driver for that
> camera, but you would have to reverse engineer the
> protocols.
>
> Depending on how it is connected you could hook in
> a piece of hardware or software to watch the
> communication.
>
> I don't understand Intel's policy, a Linux driver
> would allow more people to use the camera and then
> they could expect to sell more cameras. But
> perhaps they have some secret agreement with MS.
>
> --
> Kasper Dupont
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.linux.sux
Subject: Re: Intel Easy PC camera - cannot be supported in Linux!
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 03:03:43 GMT
On 20 Dec 2000 09:26:53 +1100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>Hmm, that sounds strangely familiar. Only the roles were reversed.
>The ultra-cheap package of CMOS video camera and BT848-based capture card
>I bought earlier this year never worked under Windows. Just wouldn't.
>No go.
What brand and model camera would that be? Sounds like something is
conflicting on your system, because if the camera didn't work under
Windows they would never be able to sell one.
>Does this mean that Windows is an "inferior OS"? I don't think so --- it
>just means that this particular piece of junk is not supported by Windows,
>despite claims to the contrary on the package. No more, and no less.
No.
It means you have a configuration problem with "your" system.
Different than trying to use certain USB devices under Linux which
will NEVER work with current distributions no matter how much tweaking
is done because Linux's USB support is a kludge.
>If I ever have a Windows installation that goes that smoothly, I shall
>mark the day in my calendar with a big red circle. But don't hold your
>breath.
Haven't had a problem since Windows 98. I agree earlier versions
presented problems for some configurations.
>Does that mean Windows is inferior to Mandrake 7.2? I don't think so.
>It just isn't very good at dealing with changing hardware. It isn't
>very good at a whole lot of things, just like Linux. And it's quite
>good at some others, just like Linux. And all the anecdotal evidence
>in the world won't change that.
Sounds like the default gateway problem with Mandrake that screws up
ppp. See the setup groups for information.
>P.S.: Welcome back, heather69. I suspect you will regale us with stories
> about your retail experience in "major chainstores", and how
> Linux is the "numero uno" returned item, right? What will your
> relation to the manager be this time? Will she be your aunt? Your
> daughter? Your brother's wife?
Huh????
Flatfish
Why do they call it a flatfish?
Remove the ++++ to reply.
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From: "Richard Robbins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: HP Netserver LC 2000r
Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 03:10:40 GMT
Is anyone out there running RedHat 7 on an HP Netserver LC 2000r?
If so, would you recommend that platform?
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From: Daniel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: open gl + Nvidia 9-5 + Tnt under Redhat 7
Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 03:30:09 -0000
Yeah I did remove all the Mesa files that they had listed. Did you use
the latest drivers? the 0.9-5? I will try rem out that line though and
see what happens.
Don Ward wrote:
>
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Daniel"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > I did follow the instructions word for work, and they have not worked
at all.
> > I have even gone to a few other websites and followed there
directions and I
> > get the same results. here is the last thing I get in my error log
when I
> > try to startx because when I install the drivers, then I can't get x
to come
> > back up
> >
> > (==) NV (0): BACKING STORE DISABLED
> > (==) NV (0): SILKEN MOUSE ENABLED
> > (II) [GLX]: caling GlxExtensionInit
> >
>
> Did you follow the instructions for making sure that you did not have
> a conflict with Mesa and the Nvidia opengl support?
>
> If not, then that is most likely where your error is.
>
> Perhaps to get past this error you could comment out the Load "glx"
> portion in your xconfig file.
>
> After hunting down all of the various mesa opengl modules, the
> instructions were extremely valuable in helping me do this, I finally
> got the below in my gui log file.
>
> Success in getting the nvidia opengl support working!
>
>
> (II) [GLX]: Calling GlxExtensionInit
> (II) [GLX]: adding Xvis: 33 GLXvis: 0 rgba:[5,6,5,0],
> mask[0xf800,0x7e0,0x1f,0x0],db[1],st[8],z[16]
> (II) [GLX]: adding Xvis: 35 GLXvis: 1 rgba:[5,6,5,0],
> mask[0xf800,0x7e0,0x1f,0x0],db[0],st[0],z[16]
> (II) [GLX]: adding Xvis: 36 GLXvis: 2 rgba:[5,6,5,0],
> mask[0xf800,0x7e0,0x1f,0x0],db[0],st[8],z[16]
> (II) [GLX]: adding Xvis: 37 GLXvis: 3 rgba:[5,6,5,0],
> mask[0xf800,0x7e0,0x1f,0x0],db[1],st[0],z[16]
>
>
>
> My card is an Nvidia TnT2 with 32mg agp etc. so these instructions
> do work.
>
> Good luck
>
> >
> > SNIP
> >>
> >>
>
>
>
> --
> Don Ward
> dwarthogatbresnanlin.knet
> Caldera e2.4 KDE2 Xfree401
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: IDE CD-Changer (was Re: ide 6x 4 disk cdrom)
Date: 20 Dec 2000 03:43:25 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Wed, 20 Dec 2000 01:27:14 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] staggered into
the Black Sun and said:
>i have an ide 6x 4disk cdrom.
>the drive is alway detected at boot but only seems to find the first
>disk as /dev/hdd.
>what do i need to do to get it to find the other 3 disks?
A CD-Changer, in other words? It certainly sounds like one from the way
you've described it.
>how do i need to set up my fstab?
>is there a special how-to for this type of drive.
If this is a CD-Changer, you will most likely need to recompile your
kernel (cough.) Disable IDE CD-ROM support, enable SCSI Support,
IDE-SCSI Emulation, SCSI CD-ROM support, and SCSI Generic Support. Make
sure to turn the "Probe for multiple LUNs on each SCSI device" setting
to "YES". This option is a pain for owners of regular CD-ROMs and
CD-RWs, but is essential for CD-Changers!
Using your new kernel, boot the system with "hdd=ide-scsi" as a kernel
command line parameter. Each CD slot should show up as one of
/dev/scd[0-3] . HTH, post here if it works, I'm going entirely on
theory here since I've never even seen one of these things.
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Brainbench MVP for Linux Admin / Workin' in a code mine, hittin' Ctrl-Alt
http://www.brainbench.com / Workin' in a code mine, whoops!
=============================/ I hit a seg fault....
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Benner10)
Date: 20 Dec 2000 04:13:35 GMT
Subject: NIC problems
I have a custom built machine that has an IDE hard drive, IDE CD-ROM drive, a
3dlabs permedia 2 pci video card, and a digital etherworks 3 isa nic. i've been
using this machine for SETI@home for a long time. I run Mandrake Linux 7.2.
All of a sudden, the network card stopped working. The OS still recognized the
card, it just couldn't ping the rest of the network nor be pinged. I rebooted
and it recognized the card on boot as usual but the same problem happened. i
figured some configuration could've gotten corrupted so I started over. I
reconfigured the card and rebooted (which i didn't really need to do) and the
same problem was happening. Then i figured that the card had broken. i put in
another - this time a generic NE2000. exact same problem! recognizes the
card, but doesn't work. then I tried both network cards in another machine and
they worked perfectly as they should. so i reinstalled Mandrake on the first
box. i tried a network install but was unable to because after it detected the
card, it couldn't communicate with my ftp server. i also couldn't ping it with
any boxes on the rest of the network. this happened with both cards. i reset
my bios to default and even moved the card to another slot. i'm lost - please
help!
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From: "lobotomy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Soundblaster 16 PCI
Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 04:27:12 GMT
Its supported. Try the ES1370 or ES1371 driver. It isn't the same thing
as the original (ISA) sound blaster 16, but rather a repackaged Ensoniq
AudioPCI of some variety (as are the SB64 PCI and SB128 PCI). It
shouldn't require much configuration, as it is PCI and autodetected.
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Anthony Hung"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I just got a soundlbaster 16 PCI and my system doesn't seem to be able
> to recognize it. I am using redhat linux... linux 2.2. I ran sndconfig
> and it says does not recognize Ensoniq 1274:5880... strange. Just want
> to know if linux supports this before I make a lot of effort recompiling
> the kernel and stuff....
>
> thanks!
>
> Anthony
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Help with internet connection
Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 04:18:53 GMT
Hello,
I just installed Mandrake 7.2. I'm kind of new to this. I have SDSL
with 5 reserved static IP's.
First I choose DSL, then I select NE2000 PCI for the NIC card. It
tells me it finds the card, but then tells me it cannot find an
ethernet adapter. Why???
If I use the driver disk from Linksys, when I try to run a 'make' on
the code, I get some error about 'target not found' or something.
Can someone help me to get this set up??
Please cc a copy to my e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thanks,
Arthur
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: TMS Computers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.alpha
Subject: Re: Alpha 2100 and X Windows
Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 22:38:22 -0600
Ok that worked! I am using Exceed for Windows right now and I have my Gnome
Desktop. So, the X-Server is working just fine, as you said, it's the local
video that is hosed. Any ideas about that? You have been a tremendous help so
far!!!
Thank you!
AJ Schroeder
TMS Computers
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Marble Head wrote:
> TMS Computers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> >Sorry Marble Head,
> >
> >None of your suggestions worked. Any other ideas? It launched the
> >XFree86 GUI screen, but my machine just absolutley will not do graphics!
> >NT worked just fine...
> >
>
> Hmm...
> Here's a suggestion that will let you verify that you've got the proper
> packages installed, that your Xwindows system is functional, and if this
> works, the only problem that can still be is the local graphics:
>
> Because you're using Debian, I assume you want to use Gnome. Edit the file
> /etc/gdm/gdm.conf. Make the following (temporary) changes:
> [security]
> AllowRoot=1
> ...
> [xdmcp]
> Enable=1
> See if gnome is running
> ps -e | grep gdm
> If it is not, change your runlevel ... "init 3" ... but before you do, read
> your /etc/inittab file to be sure I told you the right runlevel. It might
> be 5 instead of 3.
> If it is already running, restart it.
> Now, see if gnome is running (again). It should be.
>
> Take some other computer on the network, and open an XDMCP connection to
> your linux box. Many x-server apps out there are able to open XDMCP
> connections, but my favorite is netsarang.com 's Xmanager. Make it a XDM
> Query to your IP address.
> The first time it opens up, you've got to be very patient. It could be
> minutes. If you don't get a "Timed Out" message, just keep waiting.
>
> Oh, don't forget to undo those temporary changes, unless you're on a secure
> private network.
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From: "Kyle Jacobs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.linux.sux
Subject: Re: Intel Easy PC camera - cannot be supported in Linux!
Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 04:57:36 GMT
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> The Linux users need a reality check to see how much they are missing
> since they last used Windows circa 3.0
>
This is very true, I see people bashing Windows for problems it's had dating
back to Windows for Workgroups 3.11 now THAT'S sad; being so angry at a
computing platform for nearly six years now. Although it's more often that
I find Linux zealot's complaining that "Windows is the platform of satan"
because it "crashes so much".
Of course they are refering to Windows 95 and 98's hideous stability
problems, not Windows NT (after SP3) Windows 2000 or Windows Me. They don't
realize that OS's change.
Which is the only reason I still use Linux, too see if SOMETHING has
changed. 5 Years and counting, the result? No.
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From: Wade C Blackwell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: is it possible to net install with scsi drivers?
Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 05:05:49 GMT
Good evening all,
I have an old tired pentium that is all scsi. When I use the net boot
disk and try to install from an ftp server I can get to the server
fine but the system doen't have anywhere to install because there was
never a time when the aic7xxx driver had a chance to install. Anyone
have any ideas? TIA, ciao!!
Wade B
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