Linux-Hardware Digest #69, Volume #14 Thu, 21 Dec 00 08:13:03 EST
Contents:
Re: Linux and system incompatibility problems (Chan Chung Hang Christopher)
Re: My new system... (Chan Chung Hang Christopher)
Re: ASUS A7V ATA 100 problems (Ben Holmes)
Re: Hardware Raid in Caldera e-server (DPT Century) (Jim)
Re: link /dev/sequencer to timidity? (Scott Rainaldo)
Re: /dev/sequencer problem es1371 (Scott Rainaldo)
ATI Rage Fury Pro King Size Menthol Lights ("Charles W. Shepherd")
udma mode detection in Windows or Linux
Plextor 12/10/32A IDE CDRW....SCSI? (Scott C Parillo)
Re: Plextor 12/10/32A IDE CDRW....SCSI? (hac)
Re: How to set DMA for CDRW unde IDE-SCSI? (Tim Moore)
Re: Help me choose a motherboard! (bob)
Re: Gravis UltraSound problem. (Rafal Czarnocki)
Re: ATI Rage Fury Pro King Size Menthol Lights ("Adam Short")
Re: Logitech doesn't see the difference between a computer and an (Gilles Cherix)
Re: when i quit from linuxconf, the computer halt. ("vfong")
Aiptek-USB-Graph-Tablet (Ulrich Brachvogel)
Re: Intel Easy PC camera - cannot be supported in Linux! (A transfinite number of
monkeys)
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: Chan Chung Hang Christopher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux and system incompatibility problems
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 13:51:11 +0800
supported cards are listed on www.xfree86.org
check their supported cards list. Whether yours is supported will depend upon
the version of your xserver and some other tweaking that you may have to do to
get your Intel card working properly. I dunno but I guess your motherboard is
probably using the i810 chipset?
stephanie wrote:
> I downloaded the winlinux2000 demo version to try it out before I
> purchased anything. It would not detect my video card so I had to "force"
> set it under standard vga. (My video card is a standard xf86_SVGA intel
> chipset driver. The picture was absolutly lousy and broken up. I searched
> for a different card/driver that would be compatible but was informed that
> my card was probably intregrated into my mother board. ( I have a HP
> XE743) Now this machine is a cheaper product I know, however it is fairly
> new and I would like to run Linux without going off and buying another
> system. Is it possible? Are there any Linux programs that will run on my
> computor? I only found 1 intel video card on the acceptables list for auto
> configuration in linux 2000. Does this apply to all linux or just
> winlinux2000?
> Any answers will be greatly appreciated
>
> --
> Posted via CNET Help.com
> http://www.help.com/
------------------------------
From: Chan Chung Hang Christopher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: My new system...
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 13:52:17 +0800
Try Mandrake-linux 7.2 or Suse 7.0....
Nick Hopton wrote:
> Ladies, Gentlemen,
>
> I have just ordered a new system, as described:
>
> 1. Athlon 1000, Thunderbird,
> 2. Gigabyte GA-7ZM,
> 3. 20-gig, UDMA 66 hard drive,
> 4. Ricoh combi CD-rewriter and DVD-player,
> 5. 32Mb Riva TNT video card.
>
> Now, I've had some experience of Linux in the past, and it's caused me a
> lot of *pain* (mainly of my own making, by trying to do thing like
> making win-printers work with Linux).
>
> I'll be ready to give Linux another try on the new system soon, but the
> question I would ask of you is, is there a distro that would run out-of-
> the-box on this hardware? If not, I think I'll have to wait until there
> is, whenever that that might be (if ever).
>
> Regards and best wishes,
> Nick.
>
> --
> Nick Hopton, Caversham, Reading, England.
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
------------------------------
From: Ben Holmes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ASUS A7V ATA 100 problems
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 05:45:02 GMT
In article <91kbhf$r4b$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Jacob Hooysma" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Suse provides a special bootdisk for the Asus A7V motherboard
> you can download it form there ftp site....just type A7V in their
> search field in the help database
>
> Let me know if it works.....I tried it, it know recognises my disk
> but after that the system hangs.
Ditto... any answers anyone?
> Probably caused by my second ATA disc a seagate..
>
> Grtx Jacob
Sent via Deja.com
http://www.deja.com/
------------------------------
From: Jim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Hardware Raid in Caldera e-server (DPT Century)
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 06:21:52 GMT
Go to http://linux.nf/stepbystep.htm there is a section in there about
RAID. While you're there, bookmark that site. It's very valuable.
Jim
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I am trying to install Caldera e-server 2.3 using a DPT SmartRaid V
> controller. I cannot find a driver that will allow me to install using
> this controller. I am new to linux but have a extensive history using
> other Unix platforms. Any help would be appreciated.
>
>
> Sent via Deja.com
> http://www.deja.com/
--
Remove the 'x' to reply.
------------------------------
From: Scott Rainaldo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: link /dev/sequencer to timidity?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 06:33:36 GMT
I just noticed something strange. Netscape will play midi files when I
click on them (it uses plugger, which invokes timidity apparently).
However, I still need to know how to get programs which use /dev/sequencer
to work. Is there some way which I can tell redirect /dev/sequencer to
timidity?
Scott Rainaldo wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> My soundblaster PCI 64 (es1371) works fine so far for playing CDs, mp3s,
> and wavs (all PCM output?). However, whenever I try to play midi files or
> even open any program which uses /dev/sequencer I get an error.
>
>
> Example:
>
> $ kmid
> KMid 2.0 Copyright (C) 1997,98,99,2000 Antonio Larrosa Jimenez.
> Malaga (Spain)
> KMid comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY; for details view file
> COPYING This is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute
> it under certain conditions
> ERROR: Couldn't open /dev/sequencer to get some information
>
>
> Here is what my /etc/modules.conf looks like:
>
> alias char-major-107 3dfx
> pre-install pcmcia_core /etc/rc.d/init.d/pcmcia start
> alias usb-interface usb-uhci
> alias parport_lowlevel parport_pc
> pre-install plip modprobe parport_pc ; echo 7 > /proc/parport/0/irq
> alias eth0 3c59x
> options es1371 joystick=0x200
> alias sound-slot-0 es1371
> alias sound-service-0-1 es1371
>
>
> Can anyone tell me what I am missing or doing wrong? Thank you!
>
>
------------------------------
From: Scott Rainaldo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: /dev/sequencer problem es1371
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 06:37:55 GMT
I am using the ordinary kernel oss sound module (es1371) not the ALSA
module (snd-card-es1371).
glitch wrote:
> Looks like u are using ALSA. Read the ALSA INSTALL file which explains
> information concerning sequencer support
>
> Scott Rainaldo wrote:
> >
> > Hello all,
> >
> > My soundblaster PCI 64 (es1371) works fine so far for playing CDs, mp3s,
> > and wavs (all PCM output?). However, whenever I try to play midi files
> > or even open any program which uses /dev/sequencer I get an error.
> >
> > Example:
> >
> > $ kmid
> > KMid 2.0 Copyright (C) 1997,98,99,2000 Antonio Larrosa Jimenez.
> > Malaga (Spain)
> > KMid comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY; for details view file
> > COPYING This is free software, and you are welcome to
> > redistribute it under certain conditions
> > ERROR: Couldn't open /dev/sequencer to get some information
> >
> > Here is what my /etc/modules.conf looks like:
> >
> > alias char-major-107 3dfx
> > pre-install pcmcia_core /etc/rc.d/init.d/pcmcia start
> > alias usb-interface usb-uhci
> > alias parport_lowlevel parport_pc
> > pre-install plip modprobe parport_pc ; echo 7 > /proc/parport/0/irq
> > alias eth0 3c59x
> > options es1371 joystick=0x200
> > alias sound-slot-0 es1371
> > alias sound-service-0-1 es1371
> >
> > Can anyone tell me what I am missing or doing wrong? Thank you!
------------------------------
From: "Charles W. Shepherd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: ATI Rage Fury Pro King Size Menthol Lights
Date: 21 Dec 2000 00:39:21 -0600
According to the XFree site, the r128 driver supports all Rage 128-based
cards, including something
called the "Rage Fury". However, according to the ATI site, and my
trusted local distributor, *there is
no such card*.
The 32MB Rage 128 card is called the XPERT 2000. However, this card
only supports 2x AGP, and I'd
like 4x. The 32MB, 4x ATI card is the Rage Fury Pro. This isn't a Rage
128 card, but a Rage 128 Pro
card - it's a different chip.
So, my question: does the r128 driver support the 128 Pro chip, in
addition to the 128 chip?
BTW, does anyone else find the ATI naming system to be rage- and
fury-inducing? Could they make
it any more opaque? I'm having visions of Vikings (spam, spam, eggs and
spam).
--Chuck
------------------------------
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: udma mode detection in Windows or Linux
Date: 21 Dec 2000 01:22:10 -0600
Anybody know how to detect hardisk udma mode (2,4,5) in Windows or Linux ?
I cannot find any program which can do it.
Is there any fundamental problem to detect udma mode ?
Can win98 driver change udma mode (e.g. from 2 to 4) or
it must use udma mode selected by BIOS ?
thx for help,
john.
====== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News ======
http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World!
======= Over 80,000 Newsgroups = 16 Different Servers! ======
------------------------------
From: Scott C Parillo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Plextor 12/10/32A IDE CDRW....SCSI?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 07:49:58 GMT
Hey fellas,
I haven't had a problem with this awesome drive....But one thing I don't
quite understand....Why is this CDRW considered SCSI ? Do all CDRW's
somehow use some SCSI drivers?
Like I said, it works like a charm....I'm just wondering why this is....my
lilo.conf has,
append=" hdc=ide-scsi"
...and I have seen some other posts from people having the same append
info....
Thanks,
Scott
------------------------------
From: hac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Plextor 12/10/32A IDE CDRW....SCSI?
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 08:29:18 GMT
Scott C Parillo wrote:
>
> Hey fellas,
>
> I haven't had a problem with this awesome drive....But one thing I don't
> quite understand....Why is this CDRW considered SCSI ? Do all CDRW's
> somehow use some SCSI drivers?
>
This is an FAQ. Skipping over minor details, ATAPI amounts to SCSI
commands over the IDE bus. SCSI burners were the first to be widely
supported by applications, in any O/S. Making an ATAPI device look
like a SCSI device to the application allows you to use the wider
range of applications written for SCSI burners. Linux does this with
the ide-scsi module; Windows does the same thing with the ASPI layer.
--
Howard Christeller Irvine, CA [EMAIL PROTECTED]
------------------------------
From: Tim Moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to set DMA for CDRW unde IDE-SCSI?
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 09:05:19 GMT
Get rid of 'ignore=hdd'.
I have a 4x16 CD-R installed as /dev/hdb with SCSI emulation. hdparm
returns errors but sets dma, 16/32bit and IRQ mask. Early cdda2wav
testing shows that best performance/least system impact is setting I/O
to 32bit (c=1), maskIRQ (u=1), dma (d=1, -X34).
With 'hdparm c=0 u=0 d=0 /dev/hdb' the read cycle (/usr/bin/cdda2wav -D
0,1,0 -g -O wav -S 16 -v1 -P 1 -n 75 -B file1 file2 ... file20)
generates load average > 3, cpu > 90% and hwclock looses about 8 minutes
for a 70 minute/20 track read at 16x. If I/O, mask & dma all set to 1,
load average ~1.8, cpu ~30%, no time loss. wav file write to ide1/hdc,
CD-R read from ide0/hdb.
RH 6.2 base + updates, 2.2.14 kernel, ide.2.2.14.20000124 patch, hdparm
v3.9, xcdroast 0.98alpha8, 525MHz Celeron, 256MB memory, ASUS P3B-F.
# dmesg
...
Uniform Multi-Platform E-IDE driver Revision: 6.30
PIIX4: IDE controller on PCI bus 00 dev 21
PIIX4: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later
ide0: BM-DMA at 0xd800-0xd807, BIOS settings: hda:DMA, hdb:DMA
ide1: BM-DMA at 0xd808-0xd80f, BIOS settings: hdc:DMA, hdd:DMA
hda: FUJITSU MPD3084AT, ATA DISK drive
hdb: YAMAHA CRW4416E, ATAPI CDROM drive
hdc: FUJITSU MPD3084AT, ATA DISK drive
hdd: HP COLORADO 20GB, ATAPI TAPE drive
...
scsi0 : SCSI host adapter emulation for IDE ATAPI devices
...
Vendor: YAMAHA Model: CRW4416E Rev: 1.0e
Type: CD-ROM ANSI SCSI revision: 02
Detected scsi CD-ROM sr0 at scsi0, channel 0, id 1, lun 0
...
sr0: scsi3-mmc drive: 16x/16x writer cd/rw xa/form2 cdda tray
Uniform CDROM driver Revision: 2.56
...
# hdparm -iv /dev/hdb
/dev/hdb:
HDIO_GET_MULTCOUNT failed: Input/output error
I/O support = 1 (32-bit)
unmaskirq = 1 (on)
using_dma = 1 (on)
keepsettings = 1 (on)
HDIO_GET_NOWERR failed: Input/output error
readonly = 0 (off)
BLKRAGET failed: Input/output error
HDIO_GETGEO failed: Invalid argument
Model=YAMAHA CRW4416E, FwRev=1.0e, SerialNo=
Config={ Fixed Removeable DTR<=5Mbs DTR>10Mbs nonMagnetic }
RawCHS=0/0/0, TrkSize=0, SectSize=0, ECCbytes=0
BuffType=unknown, BuffSize=0kB, MaxMultSect=0
(maybe): CurCHS=0/0/0, CurSects=0, LBA=yes, LBAsects=0
IORDY=on/off, tPIO={min:600,w/IORDY:120}, tDMA={min:120,rec:120}
PIO modes: pio0 pio3 pio4
DMA modes: *sdma0 sdma1 sdma2 mdma0 mdma1 mdma2
> I cannot set DMA and other parameters for CDRW.
>
> i have toshiba CDROM as hdc and CDRW as hdd
>
> hdparm is used to set DMA for hdc but
> i cannot do that with hdd, because
> i set "ignore=hdd" for ide-cd module.
>
> So if i try to use hdparm on hdd, it
> reports "device is not configured" and exits.
>
> Are there other utilities/method for
> low level CDRW (i.e. ide-scsi and such) device configuration ?
--
timothymoore
bigfoot
com
------------------------------
From: bob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.comp.hardware.homebuilt
Subject: Re: Help me choose a motherboard!
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 02:10:24 -0800
Neal Lippman wrote:
> I am about to buy a MB for my first system build. Processor will be an AMD
> Athlon 1.0 GHz. I will be running Mandrake Linux 7.2.
>
> The question is, which MB is likely to give me the best shot at a trouble -
> free and successful build with a stable system? While there are a ton of MB
> manufacturers out there, I have pretty much narrowed the field to the Asus
> A7V, the Abit KT7-RAID, and the MSI K7T-Pro2A.
>
> Any input, especially from someone who has used any/all of these boards with
> Linux, would be very much appreciated.
>
> Thanks.
> Neal
Check Linux Hardware Database at http://lhd.datapower.com
------------------------------
From: Rafal Czarnocki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Gravis UltraSound problem.
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 12:07:41 +0100
Yorker wrote:
> But the sound does NOT work, properly.. I can bring up the mixer now. But
> if I try to hear some sound, the sound sounds (three 'sound' words -
> sounds confusing.. :-) all 'chukky' or 'stuttering'.. It sounds so
> annoying..
> Can anybody help in some way? Does someone have experience with this? If
> you people needs to see some log files, or whatever, please ask for them.
> I'm new to Linux, so I'm not sure which ones to show you, or where they
> are located.. Please help!!
Well, I still have my GUS PnP and I use it under Linux but after really
really hard work. First of all: somehow GUS OSS driver detects _both_ GUS
Classic and GUS PnP and it assigns the same IRQ to both cards which is in
fact the same card - the result is you have an IRQ conflict which is the
reason for sound being chukky. If you look at /proc/interrupts you will see
it. I don't know any solution to it, so I advice to use ALSA drivers
instead. Anyway, if you look at OSS documentation you'll see even they
advice GUS users to switch to ALSA.
So, simply go to www.alsa-project.org, download tarballs, do normal stuff
and enjoy the sound :-)
OK, you'll have to do some work to make ESD work, cause typical RPM
included with RedHat and probably with Mandrake doesn't support ALSA, but
this can be done.
Have fun
Raf
------------------------------
From: "Adam Short" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ATI Rage Fury Pro King Size Menthol Lights
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 11:12:15 -0000
I have an ATI Xpert 2000 and it does support 4x AGP, perhaps it is a revised
version, or possibly a Pro version (I'll check). The r128 driver supports it
with no problems, although it doesn't appear to be accelerated. In general
the r128 driver seems to support just about all the recent ATI chipsets,
barring perhaps the Radeon which I don't know about.
Charles W. Shepherd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> According to the XFree site, the r128 driver supports all Rage 128-based
> cards, including something
> called the "Rage Fury". However, according to the ATI site, and my
> trusted local distributor, *there is
> no such card*.
>
> The 32MB Rage 128 card is called the XPERT 2000. However, this card
> only supports 2x AGP, and I'd
> like 4x. The 32MB, 4x ATI card is the Rage Fury Pro. This isn't a Rage
> 128 card, but a Rage 128 Pro
> card - it's a different chip.
>
> So, my question: does the r128 driver support the 128 Pro chip, in
> addition to the 128 chip?
>
> BTW, does anyone else find the ATI naming system to be rage- and
> fury-inducing? Could they make
> it any more opaque? I'm having visions of Vikings (spam, spam, eggs and
> spam).
>
> --Chuck
>
>
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 13:08:56 +0100
From: Gilles Cherix <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux,es.comp.os.linux,openbsd.misc,linux.debian.user,linux.redhat,comp.os.linux.powerpc,comp.os.linux.m68k,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.ms-windows
Subject: Re: Logitech doesn't see the difference between a computer and an
BTW don't you know that a Mac is a PC
Yes of course ...
Just another commonly mistakenly used term ...
Robert wrote:
>
> i'm tired of those logitech nazis,
>
> go to http://www.logitech.com/cf/support/mousefiles.cfm
>
> well you see they're offering software support here. as usual, operating
> systems are limited to windoze and MacOS -- this isn't the point.
>
> now lets take a look on the link:
>
> windoze links point to mousefiles_pc.cfm
>
> Ok, you get it right? windoze IS NOT an Operating System but a pc, so
> i'm currently running Linux on my windoze box.
>
> So they completely ignore what a PC is, do they know what is a Mac?
> well perhaps they know what is a mac but you can take for sure they
> ignore what MacOS is. This's as real as they provide support for MacOS
> and claim to be providing support
> for Macintosh.
>
> hello! foolish ignorants! LinuxPPC exists! OpenBSD exists!
> <insert your favourite Macintosh supported operating system here>
> exists!
------------------------------
From: "vfong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.mail.sendmail,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.networking,hk.comp.os.linux,tw.bbs.comp.linux
Subject: Re: when i quit from linuxconf, the computer halt.
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 20:07:28 +0800
Some kind of service like PCMCIA, Sound or Network may be halt while probing
those device with a wrong driver module. Try to remove all the modules from
/etc/modules (make a backup of it first) and do the linuxconf again. See if
it can help.
Vincent Fong
HKLPG
Chan Chung Hang Christopher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:3a3a0e22$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Halt?
>
> Does the number lock button have any response?
>
> Chris
> Jerry wrote in message <39fc341d$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> >Hello,
> >
> >My machine is Redhat 6.2 and linuxconf is linuxconf-1.17r2-6,
> >everything when i quit from linuxconf, the computer halt.
> >then i need to manually reboot the machine,
> >how can i solve this and why does it happen ?
> >
> >--
> >Jerry �P ICQ#24202044
> >
> >�]�k - �Q�R�S����R�A��R�������ۦӳQ�@�H���A�G�Q�٬��]�k�C
> >
> >�M�A�@�_�A�C�@�ѳ��L�o�ܧ֡A�ͦs�K�O�@�س߮��C�i�O�{�b�A
> >�ɶ��n������F�A�@�Q�줣��A����A�A���ƻ�]�S���F��O�A
> >�Pı��i��즺�]�O�t�W�@�H�A�s�ڷP��Q���`�ȡI
> >
> >�L�O��˵h�W�A�u�n���p�b�ڨ���K�����C�N��O�p�������A
> >�M�p�@�_���ܤ@�w�i�H���L�I���|�A���p�t�W�@�H�A�ڭ̤@�_���a�I
> >
> >���ਭ���h�A������ۺ��������A�������L�K
> >�����C�U�Y�A��ۥ��e���o���٫��A�\����X�K
> >
> >�]�k������ ~ �s�u���� �¿A��
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >-----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =-----
> >http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World!
> >-----== Over 80,000 Newsgroups - 16 Different Servers! =-----
>
>
------------------------------
From: Ulrich Brachvogel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Aiptek-USB-Graph-Tablet
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 12:00:35 +0100
Hi everybody,
is there any driver (or compatible) for the AIPTEK Hyper-Pen USB
graphic tablet under LINUX?
TIA U.B.
--
<O
\\__///
/\ Save the curlew!
------------------------------
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (A transfinite number of monkeys)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.linux.sux
Subject: Re: Intel Easy PC camera - cannot be supported in Linux!
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 12:36:00 GMT
On Thu, 21 Dec 2000 04:18:01 GMT,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
:
: And add in the cost of the other 4 pieces of hardware that don't work
: with Linux that are now effectively boat anchors.
If you're so concerned about your hardware not working under Linux, either
read the HCL's, just like you would if you were buying hardware to run with
NT. Alternatively, just stop being a stupid consumer, and start being an
intelligent one, really. Do you buy hardware because it has "pretty blinky
lights", or because it "does what I want it to do"?
--
Jason Costomiris <>< | Technologist, geek, human.
jcostom {at} jasons {dot} org | http://www.jasons.org/
Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur.
------------------------------
** FOR YOUR REFERENCE **
The service address, to which questions about the list itself and requests
to be added to or deleted from it should be directed, is:
Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
You can send mail to the entire list by posting to comp.os.linux.hardware.
Linux may be obtained via one of these FTP sites:
ftp.funet.fi pub/Linux
tsx-11.mit.edu pub/linux
sunsite.unc.edu pub/Linux
End of Linux-Hardware Digest
******************************
