Linux-Hardware Digest #466, Volume #14           Sun, 11 Mar 01 06:13:04 EST

Contents:
  2.4.2 vs Adaptec 7896 (Konstantinos Agouros)
  Re: Bizarre Network Card Problems (James K. Wiggs)
  Re: Bizarre Network Card Problems (James K. Wiggs)
  Re: Multiple identical cards in one box? (Genesis)
  Linux on an HP Kayak xw model D6488n,6/400 series W3 ("ryb")
  Re: 2.4.2 vs Adaptec 7896 (Markus Kossmann)
  Re: Bizarre Network Card Problems (Vilmos Soti)
  Re: sddr-31 usb-storage flash reader/writer capacity? ("John Margaglione")
  Re: Linux on an HP Kayak xw model D6488n,6/400 series W3 (dicky)
  Re: Linux on an HP Kayak xw model D6488n,6/400 series W3 ("ryb")
  Re: Linux on an HP Kayak xw model D6488n,6/400 series W3 (dicky)
  Ultra 100 Boot problems from Linux 2.4.2 ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Soyo MB & HP370 IDE Controller (Samuel Hauge)
  a modem manual (ali farhad)
  Re: Hard drive questions (Lew Pitcher)
  Re: RAID on Linux: What type of hardware to choose? (Chris Elvidge)
  Re: Ultra 100 Boot problems from Linux 2.4.2 (keith)
  Re: I've downloaded the ISO file.  Now what do I do with it?  I've burned a CD and 
it won't boot with it. ("f@m4ma")
  Re: Hardware compartibility ("f@m4ma")

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Konstantinos Agouros)
Subject: 2.4.2 vs Adaptec 7896
Date: 11 Mar 2001 00:08:56 +0100

Hi,

I just recently tried to go from 2.2.16 to 2.4.2 on a machine with an
Adaptec 7896 (I am pretty sure that was the number it is a dual channel
scsi-adapter). 

However when booting from it (rootdisk is sda) it just stayed it a timeout
and reset loop. Booting 2.2.16 again I had no problems. Is this a known
issue?

Konstantin
-- 
Dipl-Inf. Konstantin Agouros aka Elwood Blues. Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Otkerstr. 28, 81547 Muenchen, Germany. Tel +49 89 69370185
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"Captain, this ship will not sustain the forming of the cosmos." B'Elana Torres

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (James K. Wiggs)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Bizarre Network Card Problems
Date: 11 Mar 2001 03:51:57 GMT

On Sat, 10 Mar 2001 15:13:58 -0800, Tom Gafford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>didja check the hub port to see if it is fried? or plug the Tyan's wire into
>a known good machine to limit the size of the reality failure?

   Yes, I tried it in another port, a known good one -- known
because another machine was plugged into it and working just
fine.  No joy.

thanks,
Jim


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (James K. Wiggs)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Bizarre Network Card Problems
Date: 11 Mar 2001 03:53:16 GMT

On Sun, 11 Mar 2001 13:12:22 +1300, enkidu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>"James K. Wiggs" wrote:
>> 
>> What can get fried on a motherboard that is
>> so bad that *no* ethernet card will transmit data over
>> the wire, but the machine will still boot?
>> 
>Have you tried a different slot? I didn't see you say that
>you did, though I suspect that you probably did.

   Yes, I tried it in all three of the remaining PCI slots;
likewise the new DFE-530TX+ card.  The SMC-Ultra is an ISA
card, and I tried it in both of the ISA slots.  No joy.

>Cheers,
>
>Cliff

thanks,
Jim

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Subject: Re: Multiple identical cards in one box?
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Genesis)
Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 04:12:41 GMT

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows) wrote in 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

>On Sat, 10 Mar 2001 09:32:28 GMT, Genesis staggered into the Black Sun
>and said:
>>    I was wondering how well it would work to have two
>>identical Ethernet (or whatever) cards on one box?
>>
>>Say I have two Linksys LNE100-TX (tulip) in my box, will it work
>>to have this in the /etc/modules.conf (/etc/conf.modules)
>>alias eth0 tulip
>>alias eth1 tulip
>>options tulip options=0 debug=1 
>>??
>>Then there is that pesky options line, how would that work?
>
>That should work just fine.  The options= line will be used for both
>cards.  The only problem you may have is that you cannot easily control
>which card is eth0 and which one is eth1.  The first card the PCI-scan
>finds should be recognized as eth0.
>

Ok, Thanks,
-Genesis

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From: "ryb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Linux on an HP Kayak xw model D6488n,6/400 series W3
Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 05:16:32 GMT

I cannot run linux on such a model(HP Kayak xw 6/400 series
W3-workstation).Tried Red Hat,Mandrake(kernel v 2.2.14) and even Storm
Linux(v 6.0)- they all fail to recognize the AIC(adaptec) 7880 Bios(1998)-
they report no HD-yet WindowsNT 2000 Professional has NO problems in
recognizing  it !

ryb...

P.S. My IBM PC-365(desktop) (M/T 6589)dual Pentium Pro Porecssor(200MHZ)-no
problems in putting ANY Linuxes on it !



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From: Markus Kossmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 2.4.2 vs Adaptec 7896
Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 05:35:54 +0100

Konstantinos Agouros wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I just recently tried to go from 2.2.16 to 2.4.2 on a machine with an
> Adaptec 7896 (I am pretty sure that was the number it is a dual channel
> scsi-adapter).
> 
> However when booting from it (rootdisk is sda) it just stayed it a timeout
> and reset loop. Booting 2.2.16 again I had no problems. Is this a known
> issue?

Yes. Try the new "Gibbs" driver instead. It's in 2.4.3pre3 or you can
find patches at http://people.FreeBSD.org/~gibbs/linux/


-- 
Markus Kossmann                                    
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Bizarre Network Card Problems
From: Vilmos Soti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 05:38:09 GMT

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (James K. Wiggs) writes:

>    The story gets stranger.  At first, I thought some cabling
> or cards had just gotten rattled loose.  I checked all the
> connections and rebooted things.  No go.  I swapped the cable
> out.  No go.  I changed ports on the hub, in case that was
> the problem.  No go.

Does your hub has lights on it? If yes, then do you see them
flashing?

Vilmos

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From: "John Margaglione" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: sddr-31 usb-storage flash reader/writer capacity?
Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 23:47:56 +0600

I have the sddr-31 with a 340MB IBM microdrive, and I get the same
problem.  Right now I can't even get the sddr-31 recognized on the
system, much less functioning.

John

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Doug Toppin"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> We've been using the SanDisk SDDR-31 USB flash writer and 32mb flash
> modules with no trouble for a long time now. We recently moved to 128mb
> flash modules and now we're having trouble with hangs/timeouts when
> trying to write to it. Anyone been using 128mb flash modules or larger
> with the usb-storage driver? If so (and it's working) did you have to
> tweak anything in usb/storage/? Doug


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From: dicky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux on an HP Kayak xw model D6488n,6/400 series W3
Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 06:15:51 GMT

I had no problems loading linux to the same model machine.
I have loaded both RedHat 6.2 and Slackware 7.1, both  2.2.x kernel revision
For RedHat I booted from a floppy with boot.img
For Slackware I booted from a floopy with scsinet.i
I have not yet been able to run the HP beta 10 X server for the fx4+ video,
but apart from that all else is working ok.

dicky.

ryb wrote:

> I cannot run linux on such a model(HP Kayak xw 6/400 series
> W3-workstation).Tried Red Hat,Mandrake(kernel v 2.2.14) and even Storm
> Linux(v 6.0)- they all fail to recognize the AIC(adaptec) 7880 Bios(1998)-
> they report no HD-yet WindowsNT 2000 Professional has NO problems in
> recognizing  it !
>
> ryb...
>
> P.S. My IBM PC-365(desktop) (M/T 6589)dual Pentium Pro Porecssor(200MHZ)-no
> problems in putting ANY Linuxes on it !


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From: "ryb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux on an HP Kayak xw model D6488n,6/400 series W3
Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 06:29:16 GMT

Thanks.


a correction-I tried booting from TURBO LINUX v 6.0.4(not Storm linux) to no
avail even with their "extra hardware img diskette !

Will try Red Hat...but does it work with the new kernel version 2.4.0 ?

"dicky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I had no problems loading linux to the same model machine.
> I have loaded both RedHat 6.2 and Slackware 7.1, both  2.2.x kernel
revision
> For RedHat I booted from a floppy with boot.img
> For Slackware I booted from a floopy with scsinet.i
> I have not yet been able to run the HP beta 10 X server for the fx4+
video,
> but apart from that all else is working ok.
>
> dicky.
>
> ryb wrote:
>
> > I cannot run linux on such a model(HP Kayak xw 6/400 series
> > W3-workstation).Tried Red Hat,Mandrake(kernel v 2.2.14) and even Storm
> > Linux(v 6.0)- they all fail to recognize the AIC(adaptec) 7880
Bios(1998)-
> > they report no HD-yet WindowsNT 2000 Professional has NO problems in
> > recognizing  it !
> >
> > ryb...
> >
> > P.S. My IBM PC-365(desktop) (M/T 6589)dual Pentium Pro
Porecssor(200MHZ)-no
> > problems in putting ANY Linuxes on it !
>



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From: dicky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux on an HP Kayak xw model D6488n,6/400 series W3
Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 06:51:38 GMT

I am currently running Slackware with kernel 2.4.2.
I haven't tried to install from 2.4.x, only 2.2.x
It doesn't take long to compile a new kernel on this machine, so maybe you can
get a 2.2.x system to work  and then upgrade the kernel.
Is there any operating system on the machine at present, because I overwrote NT
on my machine when I installed Linux and had no problems detecting hardware.

dicky.

ryb wrote:

> Thanks.
>
> a correction-I tried booting from TURBO LINUX v 6.0.4(not Storm linux) to no
> avail even with their "extra hardware img diskette !
>
> Will try Red Hat...but does it work with the new kernel version 2.4.0 ?


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Ultra 100 Boot problems from Linux 2.4.2
Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 06:26:37 GMT

Hi,

I'm currenlty using an ASUS A7V133, Athlon 1Gig TB, with Promise Ultra 
100 Controller and a single IMB DTLA-307030 HDD on hde with a CDROM on 
hdc. I have compiled a 2.4.2 kernel, ran lilo OK.

I've got to the stage where I can boot from the floppy (using old 2.2.16
-22 boot disk) using the following parameters:

x86_serial_nr=1 ide2=0xa000, 0x9802 ide3=0x9400, 0x9002

No worries.

Now, with the new 2.4.2 kernel, make dep, clean, bzImage, modules, 
module_install OK. Copies bzImage to /boot and amend lilo.conf accordingly.

I have included stuff like CONFIG_BLK_DEV_PDC202XX, CONFIG_BLK_DEV_VIA82CXXX,
CONFIG_IDEDMA_PCI_AUTO, CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEDMA_PCI, CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEPCI,
CONFIG_IDEPCI_SHARE_IRQ, and CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDESCSI.

Add the append line to lilo.conf containing the parameters above (except 
X86_serial_nr=1 since I have not included CONFIG_X86_CPUID). When I 
reboot, I get to the line "Partion Check: hde" and it freezes halts 
stops etc.

Conversely, here is the successful output from dmesg when I boot from 
the floppy:

"Partition check:
 hde: [PTBL] [3737/255/63] hde1 hde2 < hde5 hde6 hde7 >"

Funny thing is, if I include the append line in the floppy boot disk, 
it doesn't boot beyond Partition check as above. It only works if I 
enter it at the prompt.

I've been trawling the newsgroups for ever now and can't find a 
resolution.

BTW I have a large 30gig drive that booted OK using 2.2.16-22. When 
using fdisk, the following warning is given:

"The number of cylinders for this disk is set to 3737.
There is nothing wrong with that, but this is larger than 1024,
and could in certain setups cause problems with:
1) software that runs at boot time (e.g., old versions of LILO)
2) booting and partitioning software from other OSs
   (e.g., DOS FDISK, OS/2 FDISK)"

I'm not seasoned enough to know if this is the cause, or just a red 
herring.

I'm not even seasoned enough to know how to create a small boot 
partition at this late stage without trashing the lot (hideous thought!).

Is there anyone out there who has a resolution?

Thanks so far to all the mini Howto's that got me this far.
 



-- 
Sent  by david.bowie from diskcovery piece of com included  in au
This is a spam protected message. Please answer with reference header.
Posted via http://www.usenet-replayer.com/cgi/content/new

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From: Samuel Hauge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Soyo MB & HP370 IDE Controller
Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 23:19:20 -0800

This motherboard (SY-6BA+100) includes an ATA-66 (actually 100) IDE
controller which is the '370, and there's a "patch" for this:
"ide.2.2.16.20000630.patch.bz2", which I've downloaded and have
available.

At this point (not having made any use of the patch), with Redhat 7,
Linux can't seem to find any hard drives attached to this controller,
hence the need for the patch.  Trouble is, I don't really know what to
do with the patch.  Can I just put it on a diskette and feed it when
Linux asks for the driver disk (no, that'd just be too easy - it can't
be...)?  Do I have to recompile the kernal, or anything else which would
require an up & running Linux system?  Does this file need decompressing
or something?


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (ali farhad)
Subject: a modem manual
Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 06:52:17 GMT

hi all,
I looking for a modem manual in linux ( how to install , test, run  a
modem ) . 
THX 
alfa


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From: Lew Pitcher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Hard drive questions
Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 23:19:37 -0500

Mark Bratcher wrote:
> 
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >Recently purchased a 40g hard drive.
> >
> >/dev/hda has W95 and Linux.
> >/dev/hdb is back up for Linux.
> >/dev/hdc will be 40g HD for Linux.
> >/dev/hdd is a CD-RW.
> >
> >Since W95 has to be installed first on a dual boot system,
> >how can I put Linux on /dev/hdc and leave W95 on /dev/hda by itself?
> >I'm assuming I can fiddle with LILO.
> >
> 
> Cedric,
> 
> There should be a way to make this configuration work.
> I recommend downloading the Lilo documentation (that comes with the
> Lilo code). It's pretty thorough and discusses how to set up.

Lilo will indeed support this sort of configuration.

My workstation supports Win98 on /dev/hda (all partitions) and Linux on
/dev/hdb (all partitions). The /etc/lilo.conf looks like...
  ~ $ more /etc/lilo.conf
  # LILO configuration file  
  #
  # Start LILO global section  
  #
  #
  boot = /dev/hda
  delay = 50
  vga = normal
  # End LILO global section
  #----------------------------------------
  # MSWin98 bootable partition config begins
  other = /dev/hda1
    label = win98
    table = /dev/hda
  # MSWin98 bootable partition config ends
  #---------------------------------------
  # Linux bootable partition config begins
  image = /boot/vmlinuz
    root = /dev/hdb2
    label = linux
    read-only
  # Linux bootable partition config ends
  #---------------------------------------

I default boot to MSWindows for the sake of the other users of the
machine.



-- 
Lew Pitcher

Master Codewright and JOAT-in-training
Registered Linux User #112576

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From: Chris Elvidge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: redhat.linux.misc
Subject: Re: RAID on Linux: What type of hardware to choose?
Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 12:27:45 +0400

Toralf Lund wrote:
> 
> We want to set up a RAID system consisting of 6 to 8 36 or 73 Gb disks
> (initially; we may or may not want to add more disks later) for a Linux
> host , which is Intel (dual-Pentium-III) based and runs Red Hat 7.0.
> However, we are uncertain about what type of hardware to choose. As I
> understand, there are 3 different types of configurations, namely:
> 
>   1. An external, self-contained  SCSI unit (SCSI-to-SCSI)
>   2. Internal (PCI) RAID controller and SCSI disks.
>   3. Internal RAID controller with IDE/ATA disks.
> 
> I was just wondering about what other peoples experience with the
> different setups are, and what you would recommend. - At the moment, I'm
> inclined to go for alternative 1. as it seems to be the most reliable
> one, and also the one where the installation involves the least amount
> of hassle. I'm assuming that there will be a certain amount of messing
> around with drivers with 2. and 3., but maybe this isn't really a
> problem? Also, 1. is probably the most expensive solution, which isn't a
> major concern as such, but an added cost obviously has to be justified.
> Finally - and this may be a silly question, but I really have no
> experience with ATA disks - would selecting the IDE/ATA setup mean that
> all disks need to fit into the main cabinet? (I seem to remember that
> there was such a limitation with IDE back in the old days.)
> 
> - Toralf

Perhaps OT, but have you thought about Quantum 240Gb Snap server(s)?

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From: keith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Ultra 100 Boot problems from Linux 2.4.2
Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 08:35:09 GMT


<snip>

> 
> x86_serial_nr=1 ide2=0xa000, 0x9802 ide3=0x9400, 0x9002
> 

You don't want spaces between the "," and the numbers;

"ide2=0xa000,0x9802 ide3=0x9400,0x9002"
                   ^-----------------------only space

<snip> 
> BTW I have a large 30gig drive that booted OK using 2.2.16-22. When
> using fdisk, the following warning is given:
> 
> "The number of cylinders for this disk is set to 3737.
> There is nothing wrong with that, but this is larger than 1024,
> and could in certain setups cause problems with:
> 1) software that runs at boot time (e.g., old versions of LILO)
> 2) booting and partitioning software from other OSs
>    (e.g., DOS FDISK, OS/2 FDISK)"
> 
> I'm not seasoned enough to know if this is the cause, or just a red
> herring.
> 

This is not the problem (a line with "lba32" should be in
/etc/lilo.conf).

<snip>

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From: "f@m4ma" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: I've downloaded the ISO file.  Now what do I do with it?  I've burned a 
CD and it won't boot with it.
Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 10:48:22 +0000

Probably a stupid question, but did you go into your bios and tell it to 
boot from cd-rom?

f@m4ma

goolias wrote:

> Check to see if you have
> burn it correctly.
> An ISO image file after burn should show
> all folders and files in the CD, before
> that it's just an ISO file, you can't see
> a thing but a file only.
> Did you burn it by choose the burn from
> image file ?
> 
> "Linux Newbie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:985j0q$cok$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> 
>> Please can you help me?
>> 
>> I've downloaded the SuSE EVal 7_1 ISO file.  Now what do I do with it?
> 
> I've
> 
>> burned a CD and it won't boot with it.
>> 
>> I've never installed Linux before and I am at a loss as to how I make the
> 
> CD
> 
>> bootable from a PC that only has Windows 98.  I have tried to out YAST2 on
> 
> a
> 
>> floppy - it wouldn't boot the CD, it kept asking for CD#1.
>> 
>> I also made another boot floppy from "bootdisk" file.  It still didn't
> 
> work
> 
>> out - it was trying to find CD#1 as well.
>> 
>> WHat can I do to get the install to work?
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> 


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From: "f@m4ma" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Hardware compartibility
Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 10:50:54 +0000

Yes, it will and very nicely too :)

Pat wrote:

> Hi,
> I am looking into building a PC with AMD 1GHz (T-Bird) processor and ASUS
> A7V133 Socket A motherboard. Does anyone know if the current version of
> linux (Red Hat or Mandrake) will run in such platform?
> Thanks in advance,
> Pat


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