Linux-Hardware Digest #546, Volume #14           Fri, 30 Mar 01 03:13:07 EST

Contents:
  Re: Switchboxes for keyboard, mice, video? (Keith R. Williams)
  Re: Gnome lockups in RH7 ("Gerald R. Jensen")
  Zoom 2920 on ABIT BP6? (Eric R Brueggemann)
  Re: where can I find a video driver? (Dances With Crows)
  Re: No sound for TV-cart (John Westerdale)
  BogoMips? (Genesis)
  Re: Success : Getting Avance Logic ALS4000 soundcard to work with Linux (Jonadab the 
Unsightly One)
  Re: 10 gig disk in a 500 meg BIOS (Jonadab the Unsightly One)
  Re: Must disable built-in sound chip before adding new soundcard?? WHY? (Jonadab the 
Unsightly One)
  Re: Rockwell modem on combo card, R3 SND 19 (Sound III 336SP) (Jonadab the Unsightly 
One)
  Re: BogoMips? (Juergen Pfann)
  Re: UDMA problems and Redhat Linux kernel 3.0.3 (Nader)
  Re: Boot off Promise Ultra66 controller? (Nader)
  Re: BogoMips? (Genesis)
  Re: Mysterious HDD noise (Jonadab the Unsightly One)
  Re: Onstream DI30 Tapedrive broken? (".")
  Re: Symbios (LSI) 1010 Ultra160 SCSI ok with Linux? ("Cheong Kwon-Hee")
  Re: advice needed--on-board video card ("Dr. Nick")

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Keith R. Williams)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips
Subject: Re: Switchboxes for keyboard, mice, video?
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 03:31:32 GMT

On Thu, 29 Mar 2001 04:20:51, brian barrington 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Wed, 28 Mar 2001 02:59:45 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Keith R.
> Williams) wrote:
> 
> <snip>
> I've been using a BlackBox 4pt ServSwitch Jr. at work for over a year
> now and I will NEVER part with it. No ghosting at all even at
> 1600x1280. 

At 85Hz?  I am very sensitive to flicker (I've told my boss 
to turn her monitor away - until I showed her how to set it 
up properly).  75Hz worked in our previous digs, but the 
lighting in the "new and improved" Dilbert-cubes is 
horrible. The fluorescent strips beat against monitors (at 
75Hz) and the glare is impossible.  I really have to go to 
85Hz at least.  My laptop kinda restricts the resolution to 
1600x1200.  It looks horrible otherwise.


> I have had it lock up my mouse about 5 times and each time
> I just clicked a key command and it was back. 

That doesn't sound good.  Though I've had far worse problems
win Win2K.

> I HIGHLY recommend their
> products but as you said the price is not for the faint of heart. Even
> with the first time buyers discount you will be paying well over $400
> for the 4pt WITH cables. That is what everyone forgets about KVM
> switches: The cables are also expensive as hell!
> 
> Good luck and hope you can get your employer to foot the bill! :)

Not to worry here. ;-)


----
  Keith



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From: "Gerald R. Jensen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Gnome lockups in RH7
Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 22:11:14 -0600

Mouse is a generic 3-button PS2 (RH ID'd is right). Box locks up when you
try to use keyboard, too. I changed out the RAM too ... no soap. There is no
sound card in this box (server), but the NIC is alive and showing up on the
network.

Maybe I should switch to KDE ... this is the first gnome install I have
done, and I am not pleased ... too much like trying to get Windoze to work!


"Matt Rusnak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> "Gerald R. Jensen" wrote:
> >
> > I installed RedHat 7.0 on a 500mHz PIII (256mb RAM, Gigabyte mb, Intel
pro
> > 10/100 NIC) with the Gnome X interface. This machine has a Trident Blade
3D
> > (9880) 4mb video card.
> >
> > Every time I startx, the Gnome GUI comes up, gives me the welcoming
messages
> > and brings up the desktop. However, the first mouse-move locks the
computer
> > solid!
> >
> > In the initial configuration, this machine had a Tyan motherboard ...
had
> > the same problem, so I swapped the motherboards. Also initially had a
3COM
> > 3C509, which I swapped for the Intel.
> >
> > Any idea what could be causing this?
>
> Since it's okay until you move the mouse, I would expect the mouse
> driver in X to be the problem.. are you sure you have selected the
> correct driver for your mouse? (Or, does redhat 7 just provide a default
> which may be incorrect for your setup?) If you haven't done much X
> config, you may want to check out your XF86Config file, possibly
> /etc/X11/XF86Config, and see if you can find anything that doesn't look
> right.
>
> Are you able to use the keyboard for anything without using the mouse?
> (I have not used gnome much.. I'm an afterstep user.) Also, what version
> of X comes with redhat 7? I've used some 3.x, and now I'm using 4.0.2..
>
> Just for fun, you may want to try playing some audiobefore testing X,
> or making a network connection to it to see if the whole box is down, or
> just your input devices. I've had X break like that, without taking down
> linux all together. :)
>
> -Matt



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Eric R Brueggemann)
Subject: Zoom 2920 on ABIT BP6?
Date: 30 Mar 2001 04:29:42 GMT

Anyone successfully have a Zoom 2920 internal PCI modem working on the ABIT BP6 
under an SMP kernel of any kind (on any OS, for that matter)?

If so, what's your configuration?

Cheers,

Eric

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: where can I find a video driver?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 30 Mar 2001 04:57:56 GMT

On Fri, 30 Mar 2001 10:01:36 +0800, web staggered into the Black Sun and
said:
>Yes, some libraris of Redhat7 are not campatible to that in
>Radhat6(kernal 2.2.13).  I think that's why it so hard to use linux
>sometimes. So many kernals and so many software version.

Take a look at KDE 1.1, circa June 1999, then take a look at KDE 2.1,
March 2001, see the difference, and just imagine where they'll be a year
from now.  "The loss of easy backwards compatability is small price to
pay for the joy of getting rid of outmoded, inefficient, and just plain
wrong ways of doing things" is the philosophy here.

>I have just downloaded kernal2.4.2, but I cannot find modules for TNT2. This
>is the first time I upgrade a kernal. I use
>         make menuconfig
>where can I find how to upgrade video card or XFree86?

XFree86 != Kernel.  An X-server is a user-space application (unless you
go in for DRI, which isn't supported yet for nVidia AFAIK, or you trust
the binary-only kernel module nVidia provides to help with 3D
acceleration) and should run the same whether you're using kernel 2.2.x
or 2.4.x or 2.5.x .  As such, you will find no relevant options
regarding X in the kernel configuration menu yet.

-- 
Matt G|There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see
Brainbench MVP for Linux Admin /  Workin' in a code mine, hittin' Ctrl-Alt
http://www.brainbench.com     /   Workin' in a code mine, whoops!
=============================/    I hit a seg fault....

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From: John Westerdale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: No sound for TV-cart
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 04:57:01 GMT

KS,

Have the same chip and the same problem! Gerd Knorr suggested following:

move the tes6300.c from bttv-076/driver/old to bttv-076/driver dir.

Edit Makefile to exclude the msp4300.o and include tes6300.o. 

cd bttv-076
make 
make install

Did a modprobe after unloading all the modules, and ran xawtv. Yay!

Here is  my modules.conf:

# i2c
alias char-major-89     i2c-dev
options i2c-core        i2c_debug=1
options i2c-algo-bit    bit_test=1
# bttv
alias char-major-81     videodev
alias char-major-81-0   bttv
options bttv            card=40 pll=0 tuner=2 autoload=0 bttv_verbose=2
options tuner           type=2 
options tvaudio         tda9850=1 debug=1 debug=1
post-install videodev modprobe tuner; modprobe bttv
pre-install bttv  modprobe -k tuner; modprobe -k tvaudio

There is a bug in TvAudio, that kills the 6300 sound thruput.

(My card has BT848, TEA6300, TDA9850).

YMMV

JDW

Konstantin Schauwecker wrote:
> 
> Hello
> 
> I've a Hauppauge WinTV card (based on BT848 Chipset). The card runs at my
> linux, but there's no sound. Normally the sound is produced by hardware
> through the line-out of the TV-card to the line-in of the sound-card. But
> it doesn't work. I found the modules "tvaudio" and "tvmixer". I loadet them
> with modprobe, but it had no effect.
> What's wrong?
> 
> Thanx
> Konstantin Schauwecker

#    Humans wont give up a freedom, once savored     # 
# Export hope, eschew obfuscation, Lucidity is a gas #

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Subject: BogoMips?
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Genesis)
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 05:59:22 GMT

Hey,
    Could some one explain what BogoMips is and where I can get it?

Thanks,
        Genesis

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jonadab the Unsightly One)
Subject: Re: Success : Getting Avance Logic ALS4000 soundcard to work with Linux
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 06:10:03 GMT

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mohammed Hamed) wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> I installed RH7 recently and noticed that sound wasn't working, my
> soundcard is Avance Logic ALS4000.

Mine is ALS100+, and it doesn't work either, with anything but
Windoze.  (Well, the BeOS can play CD sound, but nothing else.)

> First I got the ALSA 5.10b driver 
> I had no trouble compiling the drivers, libs, and utils 
> The device were created appropriately with the "snddevices" script
> included with the driver but no sound was output, 
> I recompiled the kernel with sound support turned on, kernel 2.4 
> as suggested by the manual i removed every specific model support.
> after a little bit of tweaking and reading the docs and a few savings
> and rebootings  i had my /etc/modules.conf file containing those lines
[...]
> why is that behaviour but it seems odd. so i added the lines of the
> second soundcard, modifying snd_cards_limit to 2 in the snd options
> and adding :
> 
> alias snd-card-1 snd-card-als4000
[...]

Wow, that sounds hard.  Now I don't feel so bad about not getting
mine to work.  Perhaps someday I'll just break down and purchase
a widely-supported soundcard and ditch the one that came in my PC.  
(When I bought the PC, I knew I wanted to multiboot, but I didn't
have any idea what I was doing or any clue about supportedness
of various hardware, nor did I yet have the knowledge to build 
my own system, although that's what I'd do if I were getting a
new system now.)

At least my modem is the genuine article.  

- jonadab

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jonadab the Unsightly One)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: 10 gig disk in a 500 meg BIOS
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 06:10:04 GMT

Juergen Pfann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I still regard 1 cylinder / 8 MB for the /boot partition to be plenty 
> enough for most of us - as you usually don't compile your kernels *in* 
> there (remember this would require >100 MB for 2.4.x), you just _store_ 
> your kernel, the System.map, LILO' secondary loaders (boot.b, chain.b 
> etc.) and - probably most important - LILO's "map" file there. 
> Even with a "bloated" 2.4 kernel and its System.map, you're unlikely 
> to exceed 2 MB - thus, 16 MB is overkill IMHO. 
> OTOH, with nowadays' HD sizes, it doesn't matter too much, though. 

It matters on a multiboot system, where you're trying to fit two
or three or five OSes below the cyllinder limit for bootability,
then use the gargantuan last partition in the non-bootable zone 
(possibly an extended partition with FAT and ext filesystems 
both inside) for apps and data.  (The real bummer there is that
some apps just *insist* on installing themselves in the first
primary FAT filesystem, even if you have lots of extra space
somewhere else and none there.  Highly annoying.)

For an all-linux system, it shouldn't matter.

- jonadab

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jonadab the Unsightly One)
Subject: Re: Must disable built-in sound chip before adding new soundcard?? WHY?
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 06:10:05 GMT

Chris Rankin <pacbell.net@{no.spam}rankinc> wrote:

> Can anyone offer any light on this issue? Are there any valid hardware
> reasons why I would need to disable the CS4299 chip?

The only think I can think of (not, however, being an expert)
is that a soundcard uses _several_ IRQs, and with two of them
your chances of running out grow substantially.  A soundcard
and (say) a modem are less likely to conflict because the 
modem (or whatever) only needs one IRQ, but the soundcard 
needs one for wave audio and one for MIDI (MPU401) at the 
least and sometimes uses a third (not sure what for).

The other thing is, most people have absolutley no use
for more than one soundcard per PC.  I'm sure there are
occasional exceptions, but in general one is plenty.
You could always try using both at once and see what 
happens, then disable the onboard sound if things don't
work properly.  I don't imagine (not, however, being
an expert of any kind) any hardware dammage resulting 
from having both at once, just a lack of functionality 
until you resolve the conflict, I'd guess.

- jonadab

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jonadab the Unsightly One)
Subject: Re: Rockwell modem on combo card, R3 SND 19 (Sound III 336SP)
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 06:10:06 GMT

Thanks for your help, everyone!  

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jonadab the Unsightly One) wrote:
> Does it matter whether the BIOS thinks
> there's a PNP OS installed?  

It does *indeed* matter.  Not only for Linux, but also
for Windows; disabling "PNP OS" in the BIOS, both OSes
suddenly saw the modem, and as an added bonus Windows
also saw the soundcard (although that wasn't important
because he also has a Creative card).  

That's the first time I've seen Windows need to have
"PNP OS" disabled, but I guess it shouldn't surprise
me.  I've said for years that PNP is trouble-prone.

- jonadab

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From: Juergen Pfann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: BogoMips?
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 08:20:05 +0200

Genesis wrote:
> 
> Hey,
>     Could some one explain what BogoMips is and where I can get it?
> 

Yes - the BogoMIPS HOWTO. 

SCNR 

Juergen

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From: Nader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: UDMA problems and Redhat Linux kernel 3.0.3
Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 23:11:47 -0800

If the kernel doesn't support HPT366 (e.g., 2.2.x), then you'll have to
pass ide parameters to the kernel during installation.  See this web site
for more info and details on how to determine the parameters and how to
pass them: http://netllama.ipfox.com/ - select the ULTRA-66 Step by Step
guide.  After you get your system running and stable, you can put the
parameters in LILO so you don't have to type them each time you boot.
Alternatively, you can upgrade to the 2.4.2 kernel which can be
configured to support HPT366 directly.

If you are using the 2.4.2 kernel now, it probably wasn't configured to boot
using
HPT366.  You'll have to pass parameters as described above to get the
installation
completed.  Then, after stabilizing, you can rebuild the kernel to have HPT366
support (make xconfig).  See the Linux HOW-TO on kernel rebuilding.


Richard Gout wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I am an absolute Linux newbie and I am to stay a newbie for the remainder of
> my days unless somebody can help me with the following problem:
>
> I'm trying to install Redhat Linux 7.0 (kernel 3.0.3), Everything seems to
> work fine till the point were the actual installing would start: "no valid
> devices were found on which to create new filesystems". At first I thought I
> would have made an error with partition magic, but after browsing some
> newsgroups I found that my problem was more likely the fact that my (only)
> HD isn't recognized as I use UDM66 (HPT66).
>
> I the newsgroup I found some solutions, but most of them require too much
> Linux knowledge. Can anybody give me a step-by-step walkthrough on how to
> have Linux recognize my HD. I doesn't have to be in plain english as I'm not
> a computer newbie, just a Linux one.
>
> Please help me get rid of Microsoft and help me solve this! Please respond
> to e-mail adres
>
> Richard Gout


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From: Nader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Boot off Promise Ultra66 controller?
Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 23:15:38 -0800

If the kernel doesn't support HPT366 (e.g., 2.2.x), then you'll have to
pass ide parameters to the kernel during installation.  See this web site
for more info and details on how to determine the parameters and how to
pass them: http://netllama.ipfox.com/ - select the ULTRA-66 Step by Step
guide.  After you get your system running and stable, you can put the
parameters in LILO so you don't have to type them each time you boot.
Alternatively, you can upgrade to the 2.4.2 kernel which can be
configured to support HPT366 directly.

Aroeira wrote:

> I had a similar problem, the Linux installer don't recognize any HD in my
> system. All HD's are connected to a Promise ultra 66, and without HD's,
> there is no bootable devices... I need some help in this matter.
>
> --
> Posted via CNET Help.com
> http://www.help.com/


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Subject: Re: BogoMips?
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Genesis)
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 07:27:41 GMT

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Juergen Pfann) wrote in <3AC42595.F98321CF@t-
online.de>:

>Genesis wrote:
>> 
>> Hey,
>>     Could some one explain what BogoMips is and where I can get it?
>> 
>
>Yes - the BogoMIPS HOWTO. 
>
>SCNR 
>
>Juergen
>

Hey,
    Excellent, finally found the source.
I'm surprised the HOWTO doesn't have the source in it,
or a reference to it.


Thanks,
        Genesis

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jonadab the Unsightly One)
Subject: Re: Mysterious HDD noise
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 07:25:51 GMT

"Taavi Hein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> What could be wrong with the hard drive, everything is fine in Linux, but in
> W98, after a period of time, it starts clicking and ticking (pretty loudly)
> every few minutes (comparing to a car - as if someone pressed down the
> clutch at a high speed and then in a second or so, released it again), it's
> beginning to worry me.
> 
> Hoping, that someone can explain this :(

Do a backup.  Soon.

It could be nothing, but it could also be not nothing, and your 
data is probably worth more to you than the backup media, so do 
a backup.  Soon.

- jonadab

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From: "." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: .
Subject: Re: Onstream DI30 Tapedrive broken?
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 09:48:26 +0200

thanks for the info. that are bad news.... time to buy some tapes.......

the tape is still working if it is connected without any other devices to a ide
controller and if no jumper is set. all other configurations leads to an hang.

after using the scsi emulation within linux the tape still respond and it is
working fine.

my question was if the tape is still broken due to the ata issues....

==========
Michael Meissner wrote:

> "." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > I've installed a brand new onstream di30 tape drive on my linux box. the
> > handbook contains the jumper switches as follows:
> >
> >   pin 1 & 2      = secondary  (default)
> >   pin 2 & 3      = master
> >   pin 3 & 4     = cable select
> >
> > I've tried all these jumpers without success, the tape is not recognized
> > or the bios detect function hang forever.
> >
> > after removing all switches the tape is recognized as "slave" and still
> > detected by suse linux 7.1 (kernel 2.4.0) as hdb device. ht0 exists but
> > does not responde to any command. the following error messages appears:
> >
> >    " ht0: invalid header identification string
> >    " ht0: failed to find valid ADRL header
> >    "ht0: couldn't read header frame
> >
> > the valid adrl header info is given because the tape medium is not
> > formated etc. so this could be the cause of the message. but a
> >
> >     mt -f /dev/ht0 erase
> >
> > command doesn't work either, so how to init a tape? the process still
> > hangs during operations and a timeout appears after 1-2 minute and
> > serveral above error messages.
>
> (Note, I'm in the GCC group, not the Linux group, so the following is my own
> opinion, and not anything official from Red Hat).
>
> > my question:
> >
> > 1. is the tape still broken (onstream support is very bad... the
> > quaranteed response time per e-mail via 24 hours is not true, no
> > response at all during days..... and serveral requests....) or the
> > manual wrong?
>
> It is not surprising response time is bad -- they just went into chapter 7
> bankruptcy 1-2 weeks ago, so I wouldn't expect any help.  You might want to
> pick up tapes while they are still available.
>
> > 2. anyone around still working with this configuration or does the tape
> > work at all with linux 2.4.0? (it is in the hardware list for this
> > version)
>
> There is mention of Onstream in the 2.4.x kernel configurations.  Since I don't
> have an OnStream device, I can't help you except for quote stuff from the
> release.
>
> --
> Michael Meissner, Red Hat, Inc.  (GCC group)
> PMB 198, 174 Littleton Road #3, Westford, Massachusetts 01886, USA
> Work:     [EMAIL PROTECTED]           phone: +1 978-486-9304
> Non-work: [EMAIL PROTECTED]   fax:   +1 978-692-4482


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From: "Cheong Kwon-Hee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Symbios (LSI) 1010 Ultra160 SCSI ok with Linux?
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 17:09:37 +0900

Linux driver for Redhat 7 (Released by Redhat company) is supplied by LSI
Logic.
And kernel 2.4.x support this SCSI controller.

<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:99cgse$5br$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Cokey de Percin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> : [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> :>         Ladies and gentlemen, can someone tell me if the Ultra160 SCSI
> :> chipset by Symbios/NCR (3C1010, used embedded in some high-end mother-
> :> boards like the Tyan Thunder 2500) is compatible with current Linux, I
> :> mean the current Linux kernels and if so which driver.
>
> : Yes, and it works fine on my Thunder 2500 (with Symbios 1010).  I'm
> : currently running 2.4.2 which seems _much_ faster than the 2.2.x
kernels.
>
> Hi,
> Thanks for your responses; do I understand your (yours and the
> previous respondent's) answer to mean that Red Hat 7.0 or say Mandrake
> 7.2 works out of the box with it?  Or do I need something newer?
>
> [I.e. something with kernel 2.4.2 in it ...?]
>
>



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From: "Dr. Nick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: advice needed--on-board video card
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 01:07:06 -0800

yes! thank you


Matt Rusnak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> XWookie wrote:
> >
> > For the life of me, I cannot find the exact page at xfree86.org that
lists
> > all video cards compatible with X.
> >
> > I have even given it to individuals at other news groups in order to
solve a
> > compatibility problem, but I cannot find that page at www.xfree86.org at
> > all.  It's not a paradigm or organization, but I should be able to find
it.
> > Could someone help me out, as I am losing my mind.
>
> Here is the latest driver status doc:
> http://www.xfree86.org/4.0.3/Status.html
> Is that what you're looking for?



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