Linux-Hardware Digest #593, Volume #14            Mon, 9 Apr 01 07:13:04 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Linux  on Intel Or Celeron? what is the best choice? ("Bastiaan Schaap")
  Re: Linux  on Intel Or Celeron? what is the best choice? ("Bastiaan Schaap")
  mandrake 8.0 beta3 kt7a-raid ("Jase Isham")
  Can't boot off CD (SuSE 7.0) (Nick Condon)
  Re: And Linux for Playstation 2, Cube,etc? (Harri Haataja)
  Re: Sound card blues: Resource ALWAYS busy (markmulv)
  Re: Linux  on Intel Or Celeron? what is the best choice? (Harri Haataja)
  Re: Are there Parallel port CF reader drivers for linux? (Harri Haataja)
  Re: Win Modems ("LittleFish")
  Linux on JavaStation ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Sound on a Dell Inspiron 3800 (ESS Maestro3) - Loading Modules fails (Julien 
Quint)
  Re: Can't boot off CD (SuSE 7.0) ("G Soft")
  Re: SCSI issue with two cards (David Balazic)
  use new kernel ( excute "lilo" , but error show "No images have been defined" ?? 
("stephen")
  Spooky partition behaviour (Nick Condon)
  SCSI errors, why? (Trevor Jenkins)

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From: "Bastiaan Schaap" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux  on Intel Or Celeron? what is the best choice?
Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 08:26:19 +0200

Actually I did check the tests and benchmarks.....

Please remember the cpu's are meant for a working environment. I don't know
too many bosses who are excited if you overclock cpu's. They're often quite
fond of warranty and stuff. Offcourse you're right about the performance,
but we're not talking about the computers with the open case we have in the
attick, but systems that have to perform well as OEM.

Can you point me out to some of the articles you read about the P4 being
bad? A processor eventually being sold with different specs than first was
announced hardly qualifies as an arguement... But however I take your word
on this, you probably have more experience with P4's than I do...



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Bastiaan Schaap

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at least I thought I was dancing, 'til somebody stepped on my hand.




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From: "Bastiaan Schaap" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux  on Intel Or Celeron? what is the best choice?
Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 08:35:53 +0200

Thanx for the info! I didn't look at it this way...


Bastiaan

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From: "Jase Isham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: mandrake 8.0 beta3 kt7a-raid
Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2001 07:35:39 GMT

Hiya
        I am tryin to get mandrake to work with my system
i have my main hard drive on my hpt370 controller my cdrom an cdrw on the
primary of the motherboard controller and have win2k installed. I can
install 8.0 beta3 no problem it picks up everything fine problem is is that
when its doing the install m hard drive is listed as hde cdrw is hda cdrom
is hdb secondary controller on mobo is disabled. however after installing
grub or lilo when mandrake tries to boot it see's my hard disk as hdc now??
thus i run into big problems. I installed suse earlier an had no problems i
m jus not a fan of suse so i went with mandrake 8 but the system see's my
harddisk as hdc after install an hde before/during can anyone help me ??
thxs in advance
Jase




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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Nick Condon)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Can't boot off CD (SuSE 7.0)
Date: 9 Apr 2001 08:38:16 GMT

Technically, I *can* boot off the CD but after 30 seconds of start up 
messages, I think it tries to start X and my display just goes blank. Then 
the monitor starts flashing up an "out of frequency" error. All the disks 
keep ticking over and the keyboard is still responding to numlock, 
capslock, etc. I haven't been asked for any parameters at this point.

It's all new hardware; a KT7A motherboard, a Matrox G450 graphics card.
Any ideas anyone? 
-- 
Nick

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Harri Haataja)
Subject: Re: And Linux for Playstation 2, Cube,etc?
Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2001 08:40:03 GMT

Glitch wrote:
>Haataja" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>>>>    Following the same line...
>>>>    what about Linux for the new/upcoming powerful game consoles?
>>>
>>>Step one: get a C compiler for the game console...
>> 
>> Step two: get all the specs for the chipsets and pheripherals.
>
>Step three:  pray the first 2 happen ;)

Well, since one goes to step 3 only after the preceding ones have
already been successfully finished, no.
Step 3 might be the debug cycle and then the ordinary rocky path
of a platform port.

The praying is an option to us mere mortals in this kind of case =)

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From: markmulv <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Sound card blues: Resource ALWAYS busy
Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2001 08:42:12 GMT

Christian Sandvig wrote:

> Please, take pity on a novice that doesn't know where to turn!
>
> I have acquired a box from someone else and I don't know much about it.
> I am trying to get a mysterious isa soundcard to work under rh 6.2 with
> the 2.2.14 kernel.  What I did:
>
> (1) I first tried sndconfig which failed horribly.  It autodetects the
> card as "AZT1008 PnP SOUND DEVICE" but then can't find any settings it
> likes.  So I then (2) learned to use isapnptools, and managed to find some
> settings that don't conflict with anything I see in the appropriate /proc
> places.  So isapnp is happy -- but when I try to (3) load the sgalaxy
> module (this is the module chosen by sndconfig) with this in conf.modules:
>
>  alias sound-slot-0 sgalaxy
>  options sound dmabuf=1
>  alias midi opl3
>  options opl3 io=0x388
>  options sgalaxy io=0x530 irq=7 dma=1 dma2=0 sgbase=x260
>
> ...I always get "init_module: Device or resource busy" from sgalaxy.o.
> (4) I messed around with the irq, dma, and io a LOT, but I found that it
> doesn't seem to matter *what* options I send to sgalaxy, it always says
> this.  If isapnp is happy with these settings and I can't see any
> conflicts, shouldn't they work?  Aarrrrghh.
>
> I am just too new at this to know what to do next, and I've run out of man
> pages to read.  Can anyone give me some ideas on what to try?
>
> Sign me,
> Silent Christian
>
> ---------------------------------------
> Christian Sandvig
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://www.stanford.edu/people/christian.sandvig

I had a similar type of problem on rh7. See if the EsounD daemon is running.
If you're driver doesn't know about EsounD it may not work with it. I was
trying to run Realplayer and got 'device busy' messages or 'in use' messages
until I killed EsounD. I have since switched reconfigured RP to use ESD and
it works except when the sampling rate of 44.1k matches the sampling rate of
the stream...then I get droupouts. Don't know if this helps but I would
definately check if some other process is conflicting.
Regards Mark M


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Harri Haataja)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Linux  on Intel Or Celeron? what is the best choice?
Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2001 08:45:30 GMT

Matt O'Toole wrote:
>"Hal Burgiss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>> On Thu, 05 Apr 2001 21:45:13 GMT, Med HAM <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>> >My  Company are willing to buy  some  machines to install Linux on
>> >them. My question is which machine is best for Linux  to run on :
>> >Intel or Celeron?  And if possible , can you tell me why? (ie: the
>> >adventages and drawbacks of each  type of processor )
>> >As always any help could be so appreciated.

>Anyway, Linux makes efficient use of processors, so processor speed is
>rarely an issue.  System bus speed is more important on anyway, not to
>mention RAM.  Put your money there instead.

And IO bandwidth such as the disk and network interfaces.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Harri Haataja)
Subject: Re: Are there Parallel port CF reader drivers for linux?
Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2001 08:52:15 GMT

eshoe wrote:
>I've got RH 6.2 and a generic Parallel port CF reader for my digital camera.
>
>I have found Gimp to be a very good photo editor, but now I really need
>software that would make my CF reader work.
>
>The reader works with several different drivers from different companies
>under Windows, so I would assume a generic driver would work in Linux.

The PCMCIA cards and CF with PCMCIA adapters appear as PCMCIA disks..
My guess is that you could prod at the card with some of the paride and
parscsi modules and see if you manage to pick a right one =)

Other options are:
* Read anything you can get out of the working drivers on other OS, 
  find out if they mention a protocol or chip type etc
* Find out what chips are in the reader (open it up) and find out what
  they do (manufacturers' site, OEM, search, grep in kernel source)

Maybe someone can give accurate pointers. I, too, am interested in
card readers.

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From: "LittleFish" <littlefish_au[SPAM ME AT YOUR OWN RISK]@yahoo.com>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.computer.drivers,alt.os.linux,aus.computers.linux,comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: Win Modems
Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 16:40:36 +1000

Thanks too Anthony!! I have purchased stuff from www.everythinglinux.com.au.
before and found there service great!
Thanks again
Littlefish
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:33iz6.7541$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> In aus.computers.linux LittleFish <littlefish_au[SPAM ME AT YOUR OWN
RISK]@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > It seems as if more and more people using Windows
> > are very dissapointed over the performance of there Lucent Winmodems. In
the
> > last week I have met 3 people that have taken back there Lucent Winmodem
> > because it drops out regularly. If your machine is slower 300Mhz or is
> > running a CPU intensive task in the background you can bet that it will
drop
> > out. Give me a real modem anyday!! By the way real internal modems are
> > getting hard to source. Does anyone have suggestions for a Internal Fax
> > Voice Data modem?
>
> The Actiontec Internal PCI 56k modem at www.everythinglinux.com.au.
> It's an internal "Firmware" modem.. The manual that comes with it
> even includes instructions on how to use /proc/pci and "setserial"
> to get it to work in Linux.
>
> --
> Anthony Rumble



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Linux on JavaStation
Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2001 11:48:21 +0200

Hi all,

I got hold of a SUN JavaStation recently.  According to the JavaStation
HOWTO it is a "Dover" model.  It has a Cyrix (x86) CPU. Version 3 of
OpenBoot.

I can not get it to boot from the network.  I get DHCP, TFTP, etc to
work but when it gets the kernel file it does not know how to execute(?)
it.

What format should the kernel image be in?  Must I use some sort if
piggy back software?

I'm lost...can someone point me in the right direction?

Cheers
Tinus

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From: Julien Quint <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.portable,osu.sys.linux
Subject: Re: Sound on a Dell Inspiron 3800 (ESS Maestro3) - Loading Modules fails
Date: 09 Apr 2001 11:51:47 +0200

Matt Foster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Iain Lea <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Install kernel 2.4.3 as it supports the Maestro3 audio soundcard :)
> 
> > I have it running here... neat... the only thing that does not work 
> > is the Fn-Vol+/- keys have no effect... anyone have a fix for that ?
> 
> > Iain
> 
> It works under 2.2.19 if memory serves correctly as well.

It works on 2.2.17 (Mandrake 7.2) but requires an external driver. On the
other hand, the sound output is *very* low compared to Windows. I wonder
what is wrong here? (I am using the driver from
http://www.zabbo.net/maestro/, as I couldn't get the latest Alsa stuff to
compile...)

-- 
Julien

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From: "G Soft" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Can't boot off CD (SuSE 7.0)
Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 05:00:08 -0500

Nick,
    It is the matroz g450 that is hanging you, check out the suse support
but you will probably have to boot from floppy and run yast1 rather than
yast2 so that you can load the correct module.

Phil

"Nick Condon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Technically, I *can* boot off the CD but after 30 seconds of start up
> messages, I think it tries to start X and my display just goes blank. Then
> the monitor starts flashing up an "out of frequency" error. All the disks
> keep ticking over and the keyboard is still responding to numlock,
> capslock, etc. I haven't been asked for any parameters at this point.
>
> It's all new hardware; a KT7A motherboard, a Matrox G450 graphics card.
> Any ideas anyone?
> --
> Nick



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From: David Balazic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: SCSI issue with two cards
Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2001 11:51:35 +0200

Don Gingrich wrote:
> 
> The problem is that the kernel seems to get
> confused with more than one card in the system.
> 
> I have too many devices for a single card(at least
> at the moment) and I need to be able to force
> which one is the primary since there are HDDs
> on both and thus the order of drives changes,
> depending on which is primary.
> 
> I've got an adaptec 1542c and a 2940U. Obviously,
> (to a human) the 2940 is the primary. I'm thinking
> that one option may be to put the driver for the
> 2940 in the kernel and make the 1542 a module.
> Does this sound like a good strategy? Any other
> thoughts or suggestions?
> 
> I looked for a FAQ but didn't see one -- sorry
> if this is a repeat.

What exactly is the problem ?
device names changing ?


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From: "stephen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: use new kernel ( excute "lilo" , but error show "No images have been defined" 
??
Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 18:42:04 +0800

Now I have built a 2.4.0 kernel under Redhat 6.2 (kernel 2.2.14)
But I can't make the new kernel to be used. While executing "lilo"==> Step
"12" as below:
the message "No images have been defined" just show.Could anyone
give me some advice how to make the new kernel to be used?



> > 7. make bzImage
> > 8. cp /usr/src/linux/arch/i386/boot/bzImage  /boot/vmlinuz-2.4.0
           cp /usr/src/linux/arch/i386/boot/bzImage  /boot/bzImage
           cd /boot
           ln -s /boot/vmlinuz-2.4.0 /boot/vmlinuz

>>   9. /usr/src/linux/make modules_install

>>   10. Update System.map
           # cp /usr/src/linux/System.map  /boot /System.map-2.4.0
           # cd /boot
           # ln -s System.map-2.4.0 System.map
>> 11. vi /etc/lilo.conf (below is my lilo.conf)

         boot=/dev/hda
         map=/boot/map
         install=/boot/boot.b
         prompt  timeout=50 linear
         default=linux

            image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.2.14-5.0( changed to vmlinuz-2.4.0 or
bzImage)
                   label=linux-2.2.14 ( changed to linux-2.4.0)
                    read-only
                    root=/dev/hda1

> > 12. lilo -v -v -v (or lilo), some messages as below:
            ................
            boot image =/boot/bzImage (or vmlinuz-2.4.0)
            Mapped 2348 sector
            Add  linux-2.4.0
                      < dev=0xcO .............................>
                      "ro root=301"
            No images have been defined.
            Removed temporay file /boot/map~

>>  13.sync;sync;sync
> > 14. reboot ( still use 2.2.14 kernel can't use 2.4.0 kernel)







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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Nick Condon)
Subject: Spooky partition behaviour
Date: 9 Apr 2001 10:40:21 GMT

I got a second hand HDD, an 8Gb Maxtor something or other, and connected it 
up as part of a new system. Now, the partioning scheme that I inherited 
went like this:
1: Primary. (Win32, 3.4Gb)
2: Extended. (for all the remainder)
3:    Logical (Win32, 2.3Gb)
4:    Logical (Win32, 2.3Gb)

So I wiped out the old filesystems and repartitioned it to:
1: Primary. Win32 1Gb
2: Extended (for the remainder)
3:     Logical (Win32, 1Gb)
4:     Logical (Linux swap 128Mb)
5:     Logical (Linux ext2)
6:     Logical (Linux ext2)
7:     Logical (Linux ext2)
8:     Logical (Linux ext2)

I went on to install Win98 and SuSE 7.0. Now here's the spooky bit, when I 
type 'fdisk' under Win98 I see a single 3.4Gb primary partition, with no 
extended partition. But, my C: drive is only reporting a 1Gb filesystem, 
and under Linux 'fdisk' I see the 8 partition arrangement above.

So, my Linux 'fdisk' and Win98 'fdisk' are reporting *completely* different 
things. How the hell did that happen and how do I fix it?
-- 
Nick

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From: Trevor Jenkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: SCSI errors, why?
Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2001 10:39:07 +0000

Since connecting a Jaz and Zip drive on my workstation's SCSI bus I've
been seeing odd behaviour from the (SCSI) CD-ROM. Prior to introducing
these new devices I didn't have a problem using the CD-ROM .

The most obvious symptom is that the machine hangs for a time when the
CD-ROM is in use. When this happens I get the following events in the
syslog file:

Apr  9 10:26:33 suneidesis kernel: scsi0 channel 0 : resetting for
second half of retries. 
Apr  9 10:26:33 suneidesis kernel: SCSI bus is being reset for host 0
channel 0.

These are followed by various messages including I/O error (obviously).

Here's an extract from syslog produced during bootup.

Apr  3 10:39:31 suneidesis kernel:   Vendor: PIONEER   Model: CD-ROM
DR-U32X    Rev: 1.00 
Apr  3 10:39:31 suneidesis kernel:   Type:  
CD-ROM                             ANSI SCSI revision: 02 
Apr  3 10:39:31 suneidesis kernel: Detected scsi CD-ROM sr0 at scsi0,
channel 0, id 0, lun 0 
Apr  3 10:39:31 suneidesis kernel:   Vendor: iomega    Model: jaz
2GB           Rev: E.17 
Apr  3 10:39:31 suneidesis kernel:   Type:  
Direct-Access                      ANSI SCSI revision: 02 
Apr  3 10:39:31 suneidesis kernel: Detected scsi removable disk sda at
scsi0, channel 0, id 4, lun 0 
Apr  3 10:39:31 suneidesis kernel:   Vendor: IOMEGA    Model: ZIP
250           Rev: H.41 
Apr  3 10:39:31 suneidesis kernel:   Type:  
Direct-Access                      ANSI SCSI revision: 02 
Apr  3 10:39:31 suneidesis kernel: Detected scsi removable disk sdb at
scsi0, channel 0, id 5, lun 0 

During boot up the SCSI controller is detected as:

Apr  3 10:39:31 suneidesis kernel: scsi0 : AdvanSys SCSI 3.2M: PCI Ultra
16 CDB: IO 7800/F, IRQ 10 
Apr  3 10:39:31 suneidesis kernel: scsi : 1 host. 

Thought the board is actually an uWill board (most basic one they
produce, can't find the packaging to say which specific model).

Apart from my being a cheap-skate (for buying the cheapest SCSI
controller) what is the problem?

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