On Thu, 28 Nov 2002, Shlomi Fish wrote: > On Thu, 28 Nov 2002, guy keren wrote: > > > > > On Thu, 28 Nov 2002, Alexander Maryanovsky wrote: > > > > > When do you know you're talking to an open source supporter? > > > When he's looking for alternatives to *Mozilla* :-) > > > > the fact that something is open-source, doesn't have to mean its a > > resource hog. and mozilla is a great resource hog, and so is KDE. and > > unlike various movie playing software - they don't _have_ to be such > > resource hogs. just that nobody cares enough to make them less 'hoggish'. > > > > I beg to differ. Mozilla has to support a lot of things: all the HTML > versions (2.0, 3.2, 4.0, 4.01, XHTML ), broken HTML, CSS, images, the XUL > portable GUI library, java and Flash applets, JavaScript, many protocols > (all versions of HTTP, FTP, gopher, etc), XML and XSL and the other W3C > inventions, and possibly other things I forgot. It needs to be bloated if > it wishes to support all of those things, and with the advancement of W3C > standards, the situation is only getting worse.
when i say something is bloated, i mean it takes too many resources. as you quite well know, two programs doing the same things can use different ammounts of resources. in fact, the same program can do the same thing in two manners - one optimized and one not. the problem with bloatware is not the fact they try to do too much - but rather that they don't give a time to make sure they don't waste resources. i'll call upon your own pet to show that - you modified your algorithms and data structures several times, not to gain new funcitonality, but rather to make it run faster. you did it because you cared about its resource use (a CPU is a resource, too). the kde folks went over board with things, without caring if it runs on older hardware - hence, the bloat. when you have a new PC that runs very fast, you can loose awareness to how bloated your code is. i just bought a new computer a week ago, and suddenly things run fat, that i don't feel the bloat on every spot - suddenly netscape 6 launches quickly. suddenly galeon does not slag behind. so you see - if i was developing on this new PC, it would hardly run on older hardware, cause i wouldn't _feel_ the bloat. only if i care about it, or try it on older hardware, will i notice this bloat properly, and be reminded to keep my code optimized. -- guy "For world domination - press 1, or dial 0, and please hold, for the creator." -- nob o. dy ================================================================= To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
