Thanks a lot.

It indeed helped to see where I'm standing.

I talked to Bezeq wow support and it turns that if my modem
is still under worranty they will replace it for me at BezeqStore
with a Samsong at no cost.

It's a bit of a shame to get rid of this modem because it is supposed
to be upgradable to PRO and act as a router and dialer (on the other
hand, people here posted links to sites which show that it's a security
hazard).

So if someone wants to buy it for 400NIS (the price I'll have to pay for the
Samsong modem if I don't give back the Alcatel) please send me a
note, just be quick because meanwhile me and my partner are off the net,
VE-ZE KO-EV :-).

Cheers,

--Amos

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Yasha Harari 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 12:34 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: PPPoE on Linux - timeout waiting for PADO/PADS packets
> 
> 
> suggestion: try using the blue samsumg modem that your isp 
> should be able to
> provide. bezeqint provided me with one when they switched me 
> from pptp to
> pppoe (did so without asking me even).
> 
> i had a similar problem when they switched me from PPTP to 
> PPPoE ... i ended
> up having to play with the alcatel modem for a couple weeks 
> but even that
> modem with its internal goodies (it has a router built-in) 
> was not able to
> connect ... so i ended up connecting with their samsung blue 
> modem ... and
> yes, it is "true" (according to the several Bezeq and 
> Bezeqint.net support
> staffers i spoke with) that they don't like to support PPTP 
> on their dsl
> lines, so once you have a PPPoE modem, they *do* turn off 
> your PPTP ... this
> is their policy since at least 5 months now...
> 
> i hope that helps...
> 
> yasha
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Tue, June 17, 2003 8:18 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: PPPoE on Linux - timeout waiting for PADO/PADS packets
> >
> >
> > Thanks. I 'm aware of that button.
> > I dthis reset this morning but it didn't help.
> > Actcom support (a Debian user himself, it turned) said that
> > as far as he's aware once Bezeq notices you use PPPoE they'll
> > support on PPPoE on the line. Bezeq support denied this.
> > Bezeq support also said they don't support PPPoE on that
> > modem and the only thing they can tell me to do is to reset 
> the modem.
> >
> > My next line of options:
> >
> > 1. Test it with the Windows machine connected directly to the modem.
> > 2. Upgrade the modem to PRO and use its dialer.
> >
> > Any other suggestions?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > --Amos
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Guy Teverovsky
> > > 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 3:14 AM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: Re: PPPoE on Linux - timeout waiting for 
> PADO/PADS packets
> > >
> > >
> > > There is a small button (about a size of a pinhead) at 
> the back of the
> > > modem.
> > > Use it to reset the modem to factory defaults. Reboot the modem
> > > (disconnect/connect the power) and let it sync.After that it
> > > should work
> > > with PPTP.
> > >
> > > Guy
> > >
> > > On Mon, 2003-06-16 at 09:26, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > > Hello,
> > > >
> > > > I've followed the instructions of enabling PPPoE on Linux
> > > > as described at http://www.isoc.org.il/~doron/PPPoE.html
> > > > and it worked at first but now after a reboot it stopped.
> > > >
> > > > I get multiple messages like "Timeout waiting for PADO packets"
> > > > and some "Timeout waiting for PADS packets". I tried 
> configuraing
> > > > the modem back to the PPTP setup but the old PPTP doesn't
> > > work either
> > > > (gives same messages, but much less of them).
> > > >
> > > > The modem is an ethernet SpeedTouch Home, debian unstable. ISP
> > > > is actcom. Kernel is 2.4.20 with mppe and preemptive patches.
> > > >
> > > > I googled for the error message but it looks like people mostly
> > > > suspect the line or the ISP, not the setup. Also the PPTP broke
> > > > so I don't know where to proceed.
> > > >
> > > > Any hints anyone?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > >
> > > > --Amos
> > > >
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