Hi
the samsung eth300 cost 240 NIS at "bezeq store (בזקסטור)", and its easy to 
"upgrade" it to router....  (maybe easy than "upgrade" the alcatel  home to 
PRO).

anyway -> in ~90$ , u can buy "real" router (no need to hack/upgrade) with 4 
ports built in (no need to use  switch/hub) and inline adsl modem.... 
so 400 NIS  for old Alcatel is... mmm... too much?

Regards
Barak.

On Tuesday 17 Iyar 5763 12:21, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Thanks a lot.
>
> It indeed helped to see where I'm standing.
>
> I talked to Bezeq wow support and it turns that if my modem
> is still under worranty they will replace it for me at BezeqStore
> with a Samsong at no cost.
>
> It's a bit of a shame to get rid of this modem because it is supposed
> to be upgradable to PRO and act as a router and dialer (on the other
> hand, people here posted links to sites which show that it's a security
> hazard).
>
> So if someone wants to buy it for 400NIS (the price I'll have to pay for
> the Samsong modem if I don't give back the Alcatel) please send me a
> note, just be quick because meanwhile me and my partner are off the net,
> VE-ZE KO-EV :-).
>
> Cheers,
>
> --Amos
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Yasha Harari
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 12:34 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: PPPoE on Linux - timeout waiting for PADO/PADS packets
> >
> >
> > suggestion: try using the blue samsumg modem that your isp
> > should be able to
> > provide. bezeqint provided me with one when they switched me
> > from pptp to
> > pppoe (did so without asking me even).
> >
> > i had a similar problem when they switched me from PPTP to
> > PPPoE ... i ended
> > up having to play with the alcatel modem for a couple weeks
> > but even that
> > modem with its internal goodies (it has a router built-in)
> > was not able to
> > connect ... so i ended up connecting with their samsung blue
> > modem ... and
> > yes, it is "true" (according to the several Bezeq and
> > Bezeqint.net support
> > staffers i spoke with) that they don't like to support PPTP
> > on their dsl
> > lines, so once you have a PPPoE modem, they *do* turn off
> > your PPTP ... this
> > is their policy since at least 5 months now...
> >
> > i hope that helps...
> >
> > yasha
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Tue, June 17, 2003 8:18 AM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: RE: PPPoE on Linux - timeout waiting for PADO/PADS packets
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks. I 'm aware of that button.
> > > I dthis reset this morning but it didn't help.
> > > Actcom support (a Debian user himself, it turned) said that
> > > as far as he's aware once Bezeq notices you use PPPoE they'll
> > > support on PPPoE on the line. Bezeq support denied this.
> > > Bezeq support also said they don't support PPPoE on that
> > > modem and the only thing they can tell me to do is to reset
> >
> > the modem.
> >
> > > My next line of options:
> > >
> > > 1. Test it with the Windows machine connected directly to the modem.
> > > 2. Upgrade the modem to PRO and use its dialer.
> > >
> > > Any other suggestions?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > --Amos
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Guy Teverovsky
> >
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 3:14 AM
> > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Subject: Re: PPPoE on Linux - timeout waiting for
> >
> > PADO/PADS packets
> >
> > > > There is a small button (about a size of a pinhead) at
> >
> > the back of the
> >
> > > > modem.
> > > > Use it to reset the modem to factory defaults. Reboot the modem
> > > > (disconnect/connect the power) and let it sync.After that it
> > > > should work
> > > > with PPTP.
> > > >
> > > > Guy
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, 2003-06-16 at 09:26, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > > > Hello,
> > > > >
> > > > > I've followed the instructions of enabling PPPoE on Linux
> > > > > as described at http://www.isoc.org.il/~doron/PPPoE.html
> > > > > and it worked at first but now after a reboot it stopped.
> > > > >
> > > > > I get multiple messages like "Timeout waiting for PADO packets"
> > > > > and some "Timeout waiting for PADS packets". I tried
> >
> > configuraing
> >
> > > > > the modem back to the PPTP setup but the old PPTP doesn't
> > > >
> > > > work either
> > > >
> > > > > (gives same messages, but much less of them).
> > > > >
> > > > > The modem is an ethernet SpeedTouch Home, debian unstable. ISP
> > > > > is actcom. Kernel is 2.4.20 with mppe and preemptive patches.
> > > > >
> > > > > I googled for the error message but it looks like people mostly
> > > > > suspect the line or the ISP, not the setup. Also the PPTP broke
> > > > > so I don't know where to proceed.
> > > > >
> > > > > Any hints anyone?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > >
> > > > > --Amos
> >
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