>>"UK" == UK Jaiswal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
UK> I do NOT advocate cracking BUT we should appreciate the fact that
UK> Sibayan was honest with sharing his knowledge/experience.
Appreciate how? I do marvel at his assumption that cracking
into someone elses machine would be condoned. And this was indeed
breaking and entry
UK> I am sure he never had any evil intentions and if he had any, he
UK> would never have come out in this forum sharing his
UK> knowlege.
On the other hand, he may just feel we are like him -- a
collection of people with shifting morals. I do find that mildly
offensive.
A thief may well feel free to brag i a thieves guild -- and
that does not abrogate his guilt.
UK> With root access to VSNL's server and wrong intentions,
UK> he could have done much harm which I am sure he never did.
How can you be so sure? And just his presence was bad enough
-- did it (along with other intrusions like that) result in loss of a
shell account for lots of other people?)
UK> Having knowlege is one thing and misusing that knowlege is
UK> another.
Cracking into other peoples computers is misuse.
UK> I beleive that good system administrators should know more about
UK> cracking so that they can take care of all such security issues
UK> on their servers.
Good system adminstrators do not have to resort to something
as idiotic as breaking into other peoples homes (is that how they
train policemen where you come from?). You do it on your own
machines, you join BUGTRAQ, you read books on security, and you look
at security related information on the net. You do not break into
machines without prior permission.
UK> Yes, Suresh may be right that this might not
*May* be right?
UK> be the proper forum to discuss cracking where we basically
UK> discuss installation and other problems related to Linux. A good
There is never a propoer forum t discuss cracking.
UK> Policeman HAS to know different tricks/methods used by thieves to
UK> effectively stop them ;-)
That is just as vaid as hacving police recruits breaking into
peoples homes (``just as long as they do not take anything'')
UK> So let us not be so harsh to Sibayan this time. Excuse me Suresh
UK> if you think that I am wrong.
I do think you are wrong. People should be held accountable
for their actions.
manoj
--
The misnaming of fields of study is so common as to lead to what
might be general systems laws. For example, Frank Harary once
suggested the law that any field that had the word "science" in its
name was guaranteed thereby not to be a science. He would cite as
examples Military Science, Library Science, Political Science,
Homemaking Science, Social Science, and Computer Science. Discuss
the generality of this law, and possible reasons for its predictive
power. Gerald Weinberg, "An Introduction to General Systems Thinking"
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