I STRONGLY CONDEMN the kind of language of the mail, If some one is offered
an root account on platter he can not be called as cracker, I wonder why
every one is shying away from this kind of stuff.
I have been on this list for 2 years and found that 80% mail are related to
display, sound and mail problem.
And if some one opens with security a related topic, he is threatened to be
thrown out.
Why ?
Is the linux is limited to only display, sound and mail problem.
I know there are many people on this list who are managing the important
server,
Do they know ?
- linuxconf is venerable to buffer over flow
- crotab is the latest hackers choice for attack
- man command can be locally exploitable.
- dump has big security hole.
- running suid telnetd by any user with - n option will wipe out passwd
file.
And the list is very looooooooong.
Why these are not discussed on this list because some will boot his as* from
the list?
So please do not discourage security related topics to this list even if
they are posted by a hacker.

Most of the lister have an account on vsnl /dot server and any  security
related discussion can not be out context. I receive an average 10 kb a spam
mail every day, just because server admin are not in position to maintain
their server properly. I do not want some one peeking in to my mail box as
it has mails from my overseas customer.
If any discussion on this list is going help vsnl to set the things right,
it will be beneficial to listers only.

And Sibayan can not called as cracker if the root account of cl server is
offered on platter to him. If you keep doors and lockers of your house open,
and a burglar strikes, cops will blame you first. It is every ones duty to
keep his house in order first and then blame others.

Having said this,  I am not afraid any one  booting my as* from the list,
because then list will confined to display, sound and mail problems, which
certainly does not interest me.
Best Regards,
M.S.Deshmukh,
Director.
Beta Computronics  Pvt. Ltd.
Web Site - http://betacomp.com

>Hypocrite.  If you could tell me which other servers, I'll take the
>trouble to mail their admins.  For now, am mailing Thaths - with the
>request that he boot your miserable ass from the list.  Thaths - please
>take action - we can't have LI being populated by crackers.
>
>> So if you discuss anythin' 'bout crackin', I'm always here for gatherin'
>> knowledge. Any body can use this for security reason.
>
>That's what they ALL say.
>
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