On Wed, 30 Jan 2002, Mayuresh Kathe wrote:

> > Mine does.  My desktop is far far far more usable than any other 
> > desktop.  Not just for me, but for the absolute newbie as well.  It 
> > looks good too.
> 
> Are you running a Macintosh?? :)

I may not have enough fingers to run emacs, but I do have enough to use 
a three button mouse.

> > If the Mac OS X guys would be so kind as to release their source 
> code 
> > instead of simply taking open source tools and using them...
> 
> Theres a difference, how do you think a company would sustain growth 
> without making money?

Where did I say that they should give away freebies?  They are well 
within their right to sell their software, but they should also provide 
a means for licenced users of their software to procure the source code 
at no *extra* cost.

What this means, is that if I buy - pay money for - Mac OS X, then, I 
should be entitled to the source code as well, and Apple should give it 
to me at no additional charge, except media, shipping and handling.

If however, I do not own a licence for Mac OS X, and if I want the 
source code, I will have to pay the full price of Mac OS X in order to 
get it, but I also get the binary.

This is one of the freedoms provided by the GPL.  Unfortunately, XFree86 
isn't released under the GPL, and now Mono will be released under an X 
like licence.

> Some how I can't bring myself to belive that Open Source can fill up 
> stomachs.
> And even if it did, then the magnitude to which it would have if it 
> had been closed source is too low.

Having a 12 course meal at the expense of hurting hundreds and thousands
of other people may be fine with you, but most of us have a concience.  
I'd rather eat wada pav.

> About the Mac OS X guys, well in return for using the open source 
> tools, they have opened up their modifications/innovations to the Mach 
> kernel, use it...

Mach is a microkernel developed at CMU.  The Hurd is already around for
us to use - based on Mach.  Last I heard, the Macintosh had a monolithic
kernel, but that was a long time ago.


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