Well, Shridhar, it seems you particularly wish to get nasty, fine, 
then, here goes...

>> There are a lot more things still missing in Linux,
>> 1. Optimised performance across all machines.
> All? Where is the list?

All the machines which Linux "claims" to support.
(in the desktop class)

>> 2. Ease of use without taxing the system too much (KDE is excellent,
>>    but its the biggest bloat I have ever come across).
>>From my last three installs on i810/128MB RAM(These three are 
different 
> machines), KDE/MDK8.1 is faster than win98 though not faster than 
95. And
> win98 

Thats because you probably never got near a Macintosh in your entire 
life.
Try comparing it with the "real thing", and then come back and talk 
about it.

> was not able to configure the display for 1024x768 though there was 
a driver 
> for that card..

If the driver was there, then why didn't you use it?
So much for ease of install, huh...

> Agreed KDE is bloat but just because it can't run in 32MB don't run 
after
> it. 
> But it runs fine with 64MB. Not a real bloat IMO..

Just to give you an eye opener, Macintosh gives stunning performance 
even on a 8Mb machine and beat any other GUI system out there hands 
down on usability.


>> 3. Ease of install (I bet any of the distro makers coming anywhere
>>    near winDOZE as far as ease of install goes, leave aside the
>>    Macintosh, thats one place where it would take them a lifetime to
>>    reach)
> 
> I would say you are treading a dangerous territory. After I start 
installing 
> Mandrake, within 50 minutes I have a ready workstation with office 
and 
> dvelopment tools. Installtion of NT at same level takes more than 2 
hours.

You are going off at a tangent Shridhar.
We are talking Desktop Linux, never thought NT figured in the desktop 
variety.

And, what you don't seem to understand (just like Atul) is that there 
is a difference between you and a general computer user (leave aside a 
newbie).
I wonder what a newbie would think when he is presented with the 
screen where he is asked to partition his drive, he would just run 
away from it.


> IMO Windows truely bears to it's name of NT aka neandethel 
technology as far
> as installing software goes..

Dunno why, but it seems like you had an affair with NT and it ditched 
you.

>> 4. A next generation UI, look at all those Window Managers, they are
>>    all wannabes of some old UI paradigm.
> Great. Something like multiple desktops and IO slaves? Multiple 
associations 
> and different associations for editing and viewing documents?
> But I don't remember seeing any of these on any version of windows? 
I just
> saw them in KDE..

You miss the point again, does any Linux desktop system come anywhere 
close to winDOZE as far as usability goes?
Again, reminding you that the issue at hand is the "desktop", here, a 
user doesn't give a damn about IO slaves, et all, what matters to him 
is usability.

Linux had been trying to give usability since the days of FVWM2 (I 
guess), and that was long before Mr. Steve Jobs and company came along 
(in 2001) and stunned the world with Mac OS X, which incidentally is 
again Unix _based_
What was the Linux community doing with all the lead time they had?

> Who's the leader?

Now based on the above points, "you" tell us who is the leader.
Just to make your life easy, here are the options:
() Linux, () winDOZE, () Mac OS, () Mac OS X


> That's true but I guess you are listing them in reverse order and/or 
> direction..

Dunno, but I still feel you aren't tuned in to the right frequency 
this debate is going on, probably you should think it out before you 
dash off mails.

Warm Regards,

~Mayuresh


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