hahahhahaha.
very very excellently put.  I full heartedly agree with every word u say.
after lots of linux users forget, that everything is not opensource.

code can be, but not security.

we have blocked people from going to all the public websites.......
so our firewall blocks all websites and allows only the few websites that i
have defined. this is how we maintain security against the web mail.

Arvind
----- Original Message -----
From: "Abhi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 9:58 AM
Subject: Re: [LIH]Re: restricting email


|
| ----- Original Message -----
| From: "Sudhakar Chandra" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
|
| > I would first like to make it clear that I am totally against this sort
| > of jack-booted dictatorship.  If your employer does not trust their
| > employees, maybe they should consider hiring employees that they /can/
| > trust.  And you and other employees should consider moving to an
| > employer who treats you more like assets than liabilities.
|
| You may do very well to be against the said "dictatorship". But you are
| thinking of only private companies and organisations. On the other hand,
| they *don't* trust the users in a military setting that deals with
sensitive
| data. And I doubt the army has the fine option of hiring employees that
they
| "can" trust... Please go ahead and tell us that protecting the nation's
| security is the highest order of jack-booted dictatorship. :)
|
| Lesson of the day : circumstances change things and perspectives.
|
| > You can never
| > block every avenue out.  What about people copying the so called
| > sensitive information into floppy disks and taking them outside?  Or
| > does your employer strip search everyone on your way from work?  In
| > which case, who strip searches the strip searcher?
|
| Au contraire, walk down to the south block or CDB in delhi etc. if you
ever
| have an appointment with someone inside. They will routinely ask you if
you
| had a floppy or CD(or a camera etc. after the tehalka episode). If they
are
| suspicious of you, they will check your bags for the same. They realize
that
| this is a not a fool-prrof security measure, yet they do it to just to
scare
| off any folks with funny ideas in their heads.
| No one strip searched the guards afaik. What is your point ?
|
| Second, if one doesn't wants sensitive data to pass through... well as far
| as I know from my working for the Indian army folks... they don't *allow*
| internet access, in theory at least, at their installations. They have
their
| own internal network.
|
| If one allows outgoing mails there is no way to stop sensitive data being
| sent. If one installs some software to sniff for sensitive keywords, it
| would fail against an encrypted mail. If one tries to block web-based
e-mail
| sites... there are hundreds of them out there with new ones that may still
| pop up thus making a list block useless. If all else fails, one would
simply
| send the sensitive data to someone else on the allowed list outside, and
ask
| them to forward it.
|
| If the data is so sensitive, the only foolproof solution is disconnect the
| medium itself. Don't have access to a public telephone... don't have
| internet ... setup an internal network and forget that the outside world
| exists.
|
| >Also look for a new, more rewarding job.
| So if he is working for the Indian army, he should quit ? You are a
regular
| patriot. :)
|
| Regards,
| Abhi
|
|
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