Linux-Misc Digest #477, Volume #18 Tue, 5 Jan 99 16:13:15 EST
Contents:
Linux: Fight for survival or on victory march? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: SCSI controller (DC-390U) not detected at boot up (Olivier Perron)
Re: Concentric.net Connection (Jim Y. Kwon)
Re: Souce for date routine (Brian McCauley)
Re: PPP cannot determine remote ip address ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: help me choose license ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: maxtor 17gig and rh 5.1 (Chris)
setting color depth (Jerry Hamilton)
Re: rpm not working (Wayne Kelly)
Re: 2038 and Linux (Timothy J. Lee)
Linux 2.0.35 - Linux 2.0.36 (Jan H�hne)
Using C++ with RedHat 5.2? (Rage Matrix)
Re: SAINT FOR LINUX (Codifex Maximus)
Excel to HTML converter? (Damon K. Haley)
Re: setting color depth (Jan Panteltje)
ghostscript & samba & win95 (Martin Tullier)
Re: Duplicating partitions with Ghost (Gary Momarison)
Re: Linux Scalabiliy (Gary Momarison)
Re: [Fwd: >>>matrox millinium g200 & Xconfigurator<<<] (David Fox)
Re: x2vnc (Ed Gatzke)
Re: listing all processes with "ps" (Martin Beier)
Re: Excel to HTML converter? (Staffan Liljas)
Re: what are hardlinks for? (Jon Haugsand)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Linux: Fight for survival or on victory march?
Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1999 18:03:50 GMT
We haven't had two opposing headlines like this since we began the daily news
service for Linux enthusiasts: Today's newsflash is "Linux to survive?". The
question has been raised by an article on CNN interactive pointing out that
Linux's survival hangs on a DOJ thread. It is an interesting article and one
that I would recommend to Linux lovers to read.
This article, however, follows on form yesterday's newsflash which is the
rather triumphant "Could 1999 be the year for Linux?" - linking to the very
upbeat techweb review of Linux and its current market position.
The response has been overwhelming to these two articles. Clearly a lot of
people have very differing views on the future of Linux. My own view is that
these discussions serve to both motivate the Linux community in that it
reminds us that Linux CAN rule the world, but also that this is not a
guaranteed result. The M$ behemoth does not need, nor in fact use quality of
product to make its products dominate.
(We have set up an additional message board for discussion of this issue, as
the "ABCNews says that Linux sux" message board has been so popular we feel
that it is still seerving the community well and hence cannot be moved off
the main page just yet.)
I wonder if there is scope for, say, students studying marketing to do with
marketing Linux what the Linux community has done with developing Linux. I
have in mind a project on the WEB that would help develop the sort of
marketing material and expertise needed by companies to sell the system into
corporates. A rather vague notion, but I think that the OSS model can
actually extend a lot furhter than OSS itself: Collaboration is a very useful
learning and development tool. There are many disciplines covering everything
from advertising to project management that could perhaps benefit from an
online collaboration and it seems to me that Linux is the perfect product to
collaborate around.
Just a thought.
Brad
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From: Olivier Perron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: SCSI controller (DC-390U) not detected at boot up
Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1999 11:07:35 +0000
Victor Wagner wrote:
>
>
> Try insmod tmscsim
> (I'm not sure what device driver name is - I have compilied it in
> kernel, but look in /boot/modules-info)
>
> Real configuration consists of putting line
> alias scsi_hostadapter0 tmscsim
>
> in your /etc/conf.modules
>
> Or, if you want to boot from this adapter, either compile driver into
> kernel or learn how to create initrd.
>
> BTW, if you are running Redhat 5.0 with stock kernel, it is time to
> upgrade to 2.0.36, or even 2.2.0
> : Olivier Perron.
> --
> --------------------------------------------------------
> I have tin news and pine mail...
> Victor Wagner @ home = [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thanks to all of you who answered my question.
I've resolved my problem this way:
In /etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit I've added following code:
# load scsi_hostadapter modules
if ! grep -i nomodules /proc/cmdline >/dev/null ; then
if [ -n "$USEMODULES" ]; then
if grep -s "alias scsi_hostadapter" /etc/conf.modules >
/dev/null ;
then modprobe scsi_hostadapter
fi
fi
fi
and in /etc/conf.modules the following line:
alias scsi_hostadapter ncr53c8xx
Now everything works like a charm !
To Victor Wagner: I'm not running stock RedHat 5.0: my current kernel is
2.0.35 and I've upgraded some other packages...
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jim Y. Kwon)
Subject: Re: Concentric.net Connection
Date: 05 Jan 1999 02:20:43 PST
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dan Hogan) writes:
> Can any one using concentric.net as an ISP tell me what the command
> that must be given after "CRCINET 1>" is presented? I am using EZppp.
> This is as close as I've been in two weeks.
>
> Dan Hogan
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I'm not using EZppp; I'm using pppd-2.2/chat, so I'm not sure how much this
will help you.
The command line is as follows:
/usr/sbin/pppd-2.2 /dev/modem 115200 crtscts debug noipdefault defaultroute
connect '/usr/sbin/chat -v -V -r /etc/ppp/chat-report -f /etc/ppp/chat-script'
My 'chat-script' file looks like:
REPORT CONNECT
ABORT BUSY
ABORT 'NO CARRIER'
'' xAT<your modem init string>
OK xxATDT<your local ISP number>
user: <concentric user ID>@ppp
assword: '\q<your concentric password>\q'
The key line is <concentric user ID>@ppp. When you dial in to Concentric, if
you put your user ID followed by "@ppp" then the connection will become PPP,
and pppd will take care of the rest.
You might want to 'tail -f /var/log/messages' as root for debug and progress
checking.
Refer to the man pages on 'pppd' and 'chat' for more information.
--
-Jim
merklinATconcentricDOTnet
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From: Brian McCauley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Souce for date routine
Date: 05 Jan 1999 18:57:52 +0000
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> Can anyone point me to where I can find the source for the date routine?
GNU sources are on prep.ai.mit.edu and mirrors thereof (e.g. any
SunSite).
Alternatively look in the sources packages for your linux distribtion.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: PPP cannot determine remote ip address
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 17:49:47 GMT
Steve Lunson writes:
> Apart from the modem, my linux box is also connected to an internal
> ethernet and uses 192.168.1.1 as it's ip. address and this seems to get
> sent in the negotiations.
Get rid of the defaultroute to the ethernet. You don't need it, and pppd
is not willing to replace it.
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Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, WI
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: help me choose license
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 18:01:28 GMT
Marco Anglesio writes:
> Selling them or giving them away?
Irrelevant.
> In either case, Microsoft would go after you because their software is
> not free...
Microsoft would go after you because you would be infringing their
copyright.
> ...you are not allowed to copy Windows under MS's shrink-wrap license...
You are not allowed to copy Windows under copyright law without permission
from Microsoft.
> ...the validity of which has been challenged in another thread, but I
> won't touch it here...
It is irrelevant in any case. The entire EULA could be ruled null and void
and you still would not be allowed to copy Windows without permission from
Microsoft.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: maxtor 17gig and rh 5.1
Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1999 10:29:24 GMT
On Mon, 04 Jan 1999 18:52:07 -0500, joey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in
comp.os.linux.hardware:
>However, when I mount the drive
>on a windows machine, the drive appears to be 2 gigs.
This is a bug in the original Microsoft DOS/Windows filesystem code, which
not only had the FAT16 filesystem size limit but also assumed that the
network servers had the same limit.... It was not fixed until Win95-OSR2.
Pre-OSR2 operating systems will allow you to read and write to the entire
network filesystem, but will not report the remaining space correctly
unless (until) there is less than 2Gb free.
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From: Jerry Hamilton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: setting color depth
Date: 05 Jan 1999 11:19:40 PST
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I am running Red Hat 5.1 with a Viewsonic P815 monitor and
an STB nVidia video card with 8MB of memory on board.
X always comes up with a color depth of 8. What are the
appropriate ways to change the current color depth?
Jerry Hamilton
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From: Wayne Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: rpm not working
Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1999 21:23:29 +0200
The strange thing is that this is a new installation of redhat 5.1 on this
computer. I wanted to test kde with some apps. KDE was the first app I tried to
install and did not install with the same error message. I then tried to update
the rpm files as seen in the screen shot. There is no other software on the
computer other than what comes on the cd. I'm going to erase every thing off
the drive and start again. I hate doing this because this is not the way to fix
problems, but so be it.
Thanks
Cheers
Wayne
Richard Steiner wrote:
> Here in comp.os.linux.misc, "Gary Ferrer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> spake unto us, saying:
>
> >I have the same dammed problem with RH 5.0 (POS). Even if I ftp a package
> >in binary mode, upgrades/installs are only 25% successfull. I'm sure this
> >is a problem with the way RH has packaged the OS.
>
> I've never seen that error message, and I've downloaded and installed
> many rpms in RH 4.2, 5.0, and 5.1 on multiple boxes.
>
> There must be another variable involved here. (??)
>
> --
> -Rich Steiner >>>---> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>---> Bloomington, MN
> OS/2 + Linux (Slackware+RedHat+SuSE) + FreeBSD + Solaris +
> WinNT4 + Win95 + PC/GEOS + Executor = PC Hobbyist Heaven!
> Klein bottle for rent - inquire within.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Timothy J. Lee)
Subject: Re: 2038 and Linux
Reply-To: see-signature-for-email-address---junk-not-welcome
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 19:22:49 GMT
John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
|Yes, Linux does have that bug, the only Unix machine that doesn't is Sun
|Solaris version 6, because they have upgraded to a 64 bit kernel
Sun hasn't released any Solaris version between 2.6 and 7, and the
SunOS version number is only at 5.7. So where did "Solaris version 6"
come from?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jan H�hne)
Subject: Linux 2.0.35 - Linux 2.0.36
Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1999 20:06:17 +0100
Hello
I've got a problem!
I had SuSE-Linux 5.3 with the Kernel-Version 2.0.35 and now had it
updated on the Kernel-Version 2.0.36! And now on start up the Kernel
prints: module unable to load, this module is compiled for Kernel 2.035!
Must must I do to run my system fine????
Jan H�hne
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rage Matrix)
Subject: Using C++ with RedHat 5.2?
Date: 5 Jan 1999 13:19:15 GMT
Hi,
I am a newbie to Linux having got RedHat v5.2 for christmas. I know that
it had a C Compiler (which I have used). However, for my course at Uni I
am required to use C++, specifically the ANSI standard I/O header file
IOSTREAM.H. Is there a package for C++ on Linux that uses IOSTREAM.H and
where can I find it?
Sorry if this turns out to be a stupid question!
Cheers,
-- Jon.
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From: Codifex Maximus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: SAINT FOR LINUX
Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1999 14:07:20 -0600
Michael Tse wrote:
> Hi:
>
> During the installation of SAINT in my Linux box, after I run make
> linux, the following message appear:
> can't find command nmblookup
> can't find command smbclient
>
> Then I run perl reconfig to continue the installation. perl 5.0 was
> installed in my box
>
> When I run ./saint, the following message appear:
>
> saint shutdown
>
> then my box return to root
>
> Why? what is going wrong?
>
> How can I install SAINT? PLEASE HELP.
>
> THANK
> MIKE
Make sure you Samba installed and configured. I'm no SAINT expert but
those commands are Samba commands.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Damon K. Haley)
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.perl.misc
Subject: Excel to HTML converter?
Date: 5 Jan 1999 19:28:40 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hello,
Is there an excel to html converter out there?
I found MSWordview which does a great jobs
of converting Word97 to html.
http://www.gnu.org/~caolan/docs/MSWordView.html
I also found this page (http://arturo.directmail.org/filters/)
of MS converters but didn't find an excel2html
converter that is available yet.
Does anyone know of one or when one will be released?
Thanks
Damon Haley
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jan Panteltje)
Subject: Re: setting color depth
Date: Tue, 05 Jan 99 20:02:06 GMT
>I am running Red Hat 5.1 with a Viewsonic P815 monitor and
>an STB nVidia video card with 8MB of memory on board.
>X always comes up with a color depth of 8. What are the
>appropriate ways to change the current color depth?
>
>Jerry Hamilton
>
>
startx -- -bpp 16
could work, your server has to be able to do this depth, see XF86Config
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From: Martin Tullier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: ghostscript & samba & win95
Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1999 14:59:04 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I have LINUX 2.0.33 (Caldera 1.2) running with SAMBA
running successfully though not elaborate. I can share
files and print.
I have a problem with printing; after successfully printing
a postscript file from win95 through SAMBA to an Epson LQ300
24 pin printer on the LINUX box I get the following:
%%[ Page: 1 ]%%
%%[ Page: 2 ]%%
%%[ Page: 3 ]%%
%%[ Page: 4 ]%%
%%[ LastPage ]%%
this is printed after a form feed ( the normal end of the
print job). This print jobs had 4 pages. How do I
eliminate these leftovers? I don't know if is part of
ghostscript or LPRng or samba. I am guessing it is part of
ghostscript but I haven't found any references yet.
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From: Gary Momarison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Duplicating partitions with Ghost
Date: 05 Jan 1999 11:58:36 -0800
"Mark Robinson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Colin,
>
> I have copied linux installations from one disk to another, with both drives
> in the computer, this is the way I did it:
>
> 1) Made partition and filesystem on drive that I want to copy data to ( Run
> fdisk in linux, make partition bootable, then run mke2fs /dev/hd*)
Nice work, Mark. I'll just add a couple "variants", in case anyone is
taking notes. That last command might better be: "mke2fs -c /dev/hd*",
or (some would prefer) "mkfs -t ext2 -c /dev/hd*".
>
> 2) mount partition that you want to copy to on root filesystem
>
> 3) cd to /, call cp -ax . /(partition you want to copy to)
Howsabout just "cp -ax / /(partition you want to copy to)"?
>
> 4) edit /etc/fstab on newly copied installation to reflect the partition
> scheme of your new installation (for example, if your current linux
> installation is on /dev/hda3, and your new installation will be on
> /dev/hda1, then you would change the line in /etc/fstab that mounts / from
> /dev/hda3 to /dev/hda1)
>
> 5) Make sure you have a rescue floppy, you will have to boot from it to
> finish setting up your installation.
Or you can easily (one you learn) make (which you should do anyway for
easy rescue if you mess up lilo or your boot record) a boot floppy
by dd'ing the kernel to a floppy and rdev'ing it for the new /dev/hd*
root partition. Use it to boot using the new disk's partitions. Then
run its lilo and reboot off the hard disk.
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From: Gary Momarison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux Scalabiliy
Date: 05 Jan 1999 12:07:46 -0800
"Paul Davies" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Does anyone know how well Linux scales as you increase CPUs? Is it scalable
> with SMP hardware?
You can find some SMP info via Gary's Encyclopedia at
http://www.aa.net/~swear/pedia/high-performance.html
Look for the SMP section; most of the stuff is cluster related.
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From: d s f o x @ c o g s c i . u c s d . e d u (David Fox)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: [Fwd: >>>matrox millinium g200 & Xconfigurator<<<]
Date: 05 Jan 1999 05:47:42 -0800
jisong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> thanks for your input... i just went to
> ftp://ftp.cdrom.com/pub/XFree86/3.3.3/binaries/ and it seems like alot to download
> for modem connection so i got the patch 3.3.2==>3.3.3, would that work (i'm
> running redhat 5.2)? if it does, how do i install it? do i just replace a
> current dir with the new one? thanks again for your help =8]
No, for a redhat-5.2 system you should go to updates.redhat.com and
get the XFree86 packages from there.
--
David Fox http://hci.ucsd.edu/dsf xoF divaD
UCSD HCI Lab baL ICH DSCU
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From: Ed Gatzke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: x2vnc
Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1999 15:00:20 -0500
x2vnc is listed in the addditional programs page of the vnc homepage. I t is
an application that allows you x2x functionality. You can control two or more
machines using one keyboard and mouse. As you scroll to the side of the
desktop, you start moving the mouse on the secondary machine using the vnc
protocol. the secondary machines have to run the vnc server.
Sounds cool to me. I want to run a mac on one side, run a PC laptop on the
other, and my unix machine in the middle, one keyboard, three monitors, no new
hardware.
Ed
I have bothered the author a couple of times, and I don't want to keep
pestering him.
Ed
Bob Tennent wrote:
> On Tue, 05 Jan 1999 13:39:34 -0500, Ed Gatzke wrote:
> >I have had trouble compiling x2vnc on RedHat 5.0 and Solaris. 2.6,2.7
> >(I intend to upgrade to 5.2 this weekend and try again).
> >
> >Where can I get an x2vnc rpm? Does anyone have it running on Solaris? A
> >binary of either would be great as I often have compile problems.
> >
> I use vnc, installed from an rpm. But what is x2vnc? I can't
> find anything of that name. Did you mean Xvnc, one of the
> programs of the vnc package?
>
> Bob T.
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From: Martin Beier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: listing all processes with "ps"
Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1999 20:17:07 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Micha wrote:
> Andre Bossard wrote:
> >
> > > The main difference I've seen is that SCO's ps -e gives a list of every
> > > process running. I've only been able to get the user-initiated processes under
>Linux.
> > Hyo Aaron
> > Try 'ps x'
>
> No, try "ps ax"
> or better try "ps auxw"
As far as I know, some Linux distributions support a PS_PERSONALITY environment
variable, which, if set to POSIX, enables the ps System V mode (i.e. ps -ef etc.)!
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From: Staffan Liljas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.perl.misc
Subject: Re: Excel to HTML converter?
Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1999 21:13:17 +0100
> Is there an excel to html converter out there?
Why not just export to CSV and write a quick script (prediction ~ 25
lines)
Staffan
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From: Jon Haugsand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: what are hardlinks for?
Date: 05 Jan 1999 10:41:08 +0100
* Thomas Schulzev-Velmede
| what are hardlinks for?
| Where do I NEED them?
In addition to other answers: (1) If you move or rename a file, the
symlinks don't work anymore, but the hardlinks do. And (2) (a
generalisation of Effland's post), you can give access to a file
somewhere within a directory that you in general do not want any to
access.
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