Linux-Misc Digest #477, Volume #19               Tue, 16 Mar 99 08:13:12 EST

Contents:
  Linux and Y2K (Doug Lerner)
  Re: Help me with experiment ("TURBO1010")
  Re: Recompiling Slackware 3.6 (kernel 2.0.35) with IP Forwarding ("MokeKahuna")
  Re: A Few Questions (M. Buchenrieder)
  Compiling XFree 3.3.3.1 with gcc in Slackware 3.5 (fsdfsdfds)
  Re: Can Linux use 36-bit Xeon addressing? (Johan Kullstam)
  Re: Inconsistent partition information (Igor Zlatkovic)
  pdfTeX example.tex won't ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Error - irq timeout: status=0xd0 (Igor Zlatkovic)
  Re: Migrating RH Linux 5.2 to new hard drive ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: POP3 on a vanilla RH52 box (Igor Zlatkovic)
  Re: Dumb question: Does kernel 2.2.x use kerneld? (Igor Zlatkovic)
  Re: Soundblaser hisses under Linux (Markus Wandel)
  Re: Linux unable to use >16M Memory (Allen Ashley)
  Re: Recompiling Slackware 3.6 (kernel 2.0.35) with IP Forwarding (Larry Mintz)
  Re: Linux on Compaq ProLian 1850R - any luck? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: DHCP not working with new 2.2.1 kernel (Benjamin HERZOG)
  Re: Netscape DNS (Raymond Doetjes)
  Re: Linux and Y2K (Raymond Doetjes)
  Re: IMAP clients? (Raymond Doetjes)
  Re: Gateway G6-300 with X Windows HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (Raymond Doetjes)
  Re: ftp uplaoded file user permissions (Raymond Doetjes)
  Re: POP3 on a vanilla RH52 box (Raymond Doetjes)
  Re: Linux and Y2K (jik-)
  Re: KDE, Debian, and religion (jik-)
  Re: HPUX Emulator (Raymond Doetjes)
  Re: hacked login (root telnet cure) ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: COBOL compiler for Linux? (Raymond Doetjes)

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From: Doug Lerner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Linux and Y2K
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 19:02:57 +0900
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Now that it is March, 1999 I figure I might as well get around to
asking. Are the years in Linux 4 digits, or are my server programs which
support Y2K going to get messed up next year?

Is there a FAQ about this somewhere?

Thanks,

Doug Lerner, Tokyo
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: "TURBO1010" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Help me with experiment
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 22:35:45 -0800

Careful with this script, after running it, I couldn't print.
John and Lucy Hayward-Warburton wrote in message
<7c4gdd$pr5$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>propsync <"NOSPAM propsync"@stratos.net> wrote:
>> system freezes by saying "cannot find the console" or something like
>> that.  Can anyone help me by specifying what files I need to copy to the
>> second partition to get it to boot?
>
>You need to have your device directory filled correctly. Look for
>a script on your system called (all capitals) MAKEDEV. Make a /dev
>directory in your new partition, then run MAKEDEV in that directory.
>If you haven't got MAKEDEV (??) then tar up your /dev in your main
>partition and untar it on your new partition.
>
>then try again.
>
>Your kernel is looking for /dev/tty0 or /dev/console which is, not
>surprisingly, the device corresponding to your system console.
>Without it, Linux can't talk to you.
>
>JHW
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>eliminiate the obvious




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From: "MokeKahuna" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.slackware
Subject: Re: Recompiling Slackware 3.6 (kernel 2.0.35) with IP Forwarding
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 11:20:07 GMT

Tried that but could not get that to work right either.  In any case, still
had my backup copy elsewhere on the partition.


jik- wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>> BIOS hardware startup.  At this point the only thing I could do was boot
>> from the distribution CD and copy my original 2.0.35 kernel back in
(backup
>> copy always saves you in cases like this).
>
>Always leave your old kernel at like /vmlinuz.old and add another
>section to lilo.conf for the old kernel, then rerun lilo (of
>course)....then you always have your good copy in case the new one
>doesn't boot.


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (M. Buchenrieder)
Subject: Re: A Few Questions
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 08:42:57 GMT

Brent Warkentin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>This is a multi-part message in MIME format.

Please stop that.

>Problem 1:  I am using Samba connected to a Win98 box.  I can see the
>Linux Box shared drives and Printers (lp, ps and printers)...  But I can
>not print to them.  I can configure the printer on the Win98 box but
>when you print to one of them nothing happens.  The lpr statement works
>from within Linux and no problems printing.  Any suggestions as to where
>to start?

[...]

Check the permissions of the spool directory your printjobs are queued
into, and the permissions/ownership of the jobs submitted from the Win*
machines.

Michael
-- 
Michael Buchenrieder * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://www.muc.de/~mibu
          Lumber Cartel Unit #456 (TINLC) & Official Netscum
    Note: If you want me to send you email, don't munge your address.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (fsdfsdfds)
Subject: Compiling XFree 3.3.3.1 with gcc in Slackware 3.5
Date: 13 Mar 99 21:07:18 GMT

Please, can someone help me with this :

I have a Slackware 3.5 Linux installed here and my video board is a SiS76326. 
This video board is not supported in the X11 that comes with Slack 3.5, however 
, i downloaded the XFrees newest sources , and this version supports SiS6326 . 
However , im having problems to compile it. Can someone help me ?


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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Can Linux use 36-bit Xeon addressing?
From: Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 16 Mar 1999 06:33:55 -0500

o r c @ p e l l . p o r t l a n d . o r . u s  (david parsons) writes:

> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Johan Kullstam  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >i can understand linus completely.  do you remember 16 bit segment
> >hell?
> 
>     How long does it take to fill up a 64k code+data segment?  Now
>     how long does it take to fill up a 4gb code+data segment?  I'm
>     sure that one of the days we'll see programs that are larger
>     than this, but it may not be for a couple of year yet.  If we
>     can live with a maximum of 4gb of space per program (that's 4
>     times the current limitation, 2 times if you do kernel hacks)
>     the kernel will be the only entity that needs to worry about
>     segment+offset addresses.

i can accept multiple processes, none of which take up more than 2 (or
perhaps 3) GB each, yet the whole thing needs more than 4 GB to fit
into memory.  the heavyweight application (yes singular, if you had
two independents, you could run them on two boxen) will need to be
written so that it uses multiple processes.  some database type stuff
may already be in such a form.

>     segment+offset addresses are a bit of a pain, but if you're
>     programming in a higher level language they certainly aren't more of
>     a pain than the 68ks separate address and data registers were.

the 68k was a wonderful processor.  C compilers could easily figure
out the difference between an int and a pointer and put the right
thing in the right slot.  that wasn't a pain at all.  you could pretty
much guess what the C code would translate into.  the m68k was a fine
cpu.

the small, medium, compact, far, huge memory model thing was much more
difficult.  i remember working on both m68k and x86 back in 1990 and
the m68k just *so* much easier to deal with.  x86 has register
over-specialization in combination with a dearth of registers.  the
16 bit segments made it suck that much more.

i remember coding C for the x86 in 16 bit mode and it was no fun to
juggle memory models.  huge pointers will break C++ for sure.  look at
NULL, it's an int (or maybe a long).  things go wrong if pointers are
64 bit quantities and NULL is a 32 bit thing.  i am not sure if the
standard allows NULL to be 0LL.  i know it disallows (void *) 0
(stupid yes, but that's how it is).

if i ever need to address more than 4 GB from a single process, it is
high time for me to get a 64 bit processor.  it's as simple as that.

-- 
                                           J o h a n  K u l l s t a m
                                           [[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
                                              Don't Fear the Penguin!

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From: Igor Zlatkovic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Inconsistent partition information
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 11:50:36 +0000

Hi there.

What you see is the result of using FIPS. It is due to the way how FIPS work
and how it made your partition smaller.

You can safely ignore this message from fdisk, as it will not have impact on
anything. If you want the message to dissapear, you will have to recreate the
partition you made smaller with FIPS.

LBA is addressing mode that enables your computer to access big disks. It is
important under Win95/98. To Linux, it is only relevant at boot time. LBA is
good on big drives, there is nothing to worry about.

Igor


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.text.tex
Subject: pdfTeX example.tex won't
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 20:37:28 GMT

I might have an application for pdfTeX, so I thought I'd give a try.  pdfTeX's
author suggests processing example.tex, and studying how it does what it does.
So that's what I tried.

I have RedHat Linux 5.2, which comes with something called pdfTeX, but
without example.tex.  I found example.tex on an ftp site, but it very quickly
caused an error in pdftex and quit.  So I found a newer version of pdftex in
RPM format (apologies to the non-linux lurkers), downloaded that and
installed it.  (BTW, I had to upgrade my tetex to do this... some dependency
was missing.)

Anyway, now I have what I hope is a consistent set of pdftex and example.tex
(they both came from the same RPM package).

But no dice.

It fails with "l.156 can't use 'file' and 'num' at the same time in goto
action" or somesuch.  Well, I can find a "goto action" but any mention of
"file" after that is commented out.  If I comment out the "num 1" we get past
that, but it fails at a color-changing directive.

Any help?  It's hard to debug your learning tool  :)

I can't find any version numbers on any of the pdftex stuff except the RPM
which I think is 0.9-14.

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From: Igor Zlatkovic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Error - irq timeout: status=0xd0
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 11:59:24 +0000

Hmmmmmm looks like it is the second drive in your box and like it is coneccted
to the SCSI controller.

I had a similar situation and have figured out that my Seagate Barracuda (SCSI)
spins down when it is overheating. It seems to detect the overheat and turns
the motor off. Any access attempt to the drive turns the motor on again.

I never lost any data from that drive, but it was annoying. An extra cooler for
the drive fixed the problem.

Igor


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Migrating RH Linux 5.2 to new hard drive
Crossposted-To: 
alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.questions,linux.redhat.misc
Date: 16 Mar 99 11:52:43 GMT

In comp.os.linux.hardware Greg Waugh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hey fellow Linux users!  I'm going to be moving my current RedHat 5.2 Linux
> server to a new hard drive.  Everything in the system is going to be the

Simple.  Setup the new drive with fdisk, etc and mount it under /mnt.
Mount all the partitions there, just like it'd be if you booted
up.. you know, /mnt /mnt/usr or whatever you like.  Then do

cd /
find . | grep -v /mnt | grep -v /proc | cpio -dpmu /mnt

You should be able to edit your lilo.conf to point to the new drive,
then run lilo, then boot the new drive.  This has worked for me, but I
may have left something out, so check the man pages and THINK before
you act.


robert

-- 
robert cope     austin, texas     [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.linuxwizard.net        [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: Igor Zlatkovic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: POP3 on a vanilla RH52 box
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 12:03:26 +0000

If I got it right, you have a POP3 account somewhere and
want to read mail from your /var/spool/mail.

This is possible by using fetchmail. Read the manpage for
fetchmail and you will find everything you need to configure
it there. Once configured, it works pretty well and does
exactly what you need.

Igor


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From: Igor Zlatkovic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,alt.linux
Subject: Re: Dumb question: Does kernel 2.2.x use kerneld?
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 12:09:46 +0000

kerneld is only obsolete, if you compiled your kernel with kmod support.
kmod is a part of the kernel that replaces kerneld.

Read about it in /usr/src/linux/Documentation/kmod.txt. If you compiled
the new kernel with kmod support, you can remove kerneld, it is not needed

anymore. If not, recompile with kmod support and remove kerneld when done.

If you take look at your /etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit script, you will see that
the script
checks for kmod presence and decides wether to enable kerneld or not, so
it will do no harm to leave everything as it is, even if your kernel has
kmod support.

Igor


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Markus Wandel)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,linux.debian.user
Subject: Re: Soundblaser hisses under Linux
Date: 16 Mar 1999 11:57:18 GMT

In article <bDdH2.2455$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
A.G. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>When I do modprobe sb, the modules load w/o any errors, and I hear quite
>annoying hiss comming from the speakers.
>
>The card doesn't produce *any* hissing under NT.

My RH5.2 setup has a command-line mixer control command that is just perfect
for initializing the sound at the end of /etc/rc.d/rc.local (the very last
thing that is run before the login prompt comes up.)  Actually I put a "play"
command in there too so the machine can make a nice hi-fi startup noise just
like UnmentionableOS.

In my machine, the cable from the CD-ROM to the sound card picks up noise,
although not terribly loud.  I also keep the microphone input muted when
not in use.

Markus

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Allen Ashley)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Linux unable to use >16M Memory
Date: 16 Mar 1999 12:05:01 GMT

Where did your kernel come from? I seem to recall a kernel option that
limits use to below 16Mb. Maybe that option is set in the kernel
you are using?


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Larry Mintz)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.slackware
Subject: Re: Recompiling Slackware 3.6 (kernel 2.0.35) with IP Forwarding
Date: 16 Mar 1999 12:02:20 GMT

MokeKahuna ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: After confirming everything worked fine using ifconfig, netstat, and
: ipfwadm, I proceeded to 'make mrproper', 'make config', 'make dep ; make
: clean', and finally 'make modules' and 'make modules_install'.  When I
: rebooted, however, it just went into a loop starting lilo then going back to
: BIOS hardware startup.  At this point the only thing I could do was boot
: from the distribution CD and copy my original 2.0.35 kernel back in (backup
: copy always saves you in cases like this).

When did you actually build the kernel.  None of the make steps above compile
the kernel.  You need to run make zImage, or make zlilo, etc in order to 
build a kernel.

Larry

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Linux on Compaq ProLian 1850R - any luck?
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 12:07:55 GMT

Hello

During installation you cannot configure the NIC. Therefore after complete
installation follow the procedure given below.

1. Execute the command "insmod tlan" at the prompt. 2. Execute the command
"netconf" at the prompt. 3. Configure the NIC by selecting the "Basic Host
Information option" and entering the IP Address, Netmask, Net device as eth0
and Kernal as tlan. 4. Select the "Gateway and routing" option from main menu
and fill in the detail of Gateway address and without fail enable the Gateway
option. 5. Accept the changes and exit from utility. 6. If you are installing
Redhat Linux 5.0 or 5.1 add the line "insmod tlan" in
/etc/rc.d/init/d/network. 7. To confirm about the configuration execute the
command "ifconfig -a" which will display the details of your NIC configured.

Regards

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  John Sinnott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Has anyone managed to get Linux up and running on the ProLiant 1850R?  I
> know it is possible, since Compaq is now shipping these boxes configured
> for Linux.  The only problem I am having is getting the embedded 10/100
> UTP NIC that comes with the box working.  Is there a compatible driver
> available, or do I need to just purchase another NIC for one of the PCI
> slots?
>
> Thanks
> John
>
>

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From: Benjamin HERZOG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: DHCP not working with new 2.2.1 kernel
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 14:18:43 +0100

If you installed RedHat, you can configure your connexion via the Control
Pannel (Liloconf).
There, you can configure the options for your network.
If you connect via DHCP, just mark the option dhcp, and mention the dhcp
server ip at the place where your local IP is required.
It should work !
If not, check the error message (like using dhcp on eth0 ... failed), and
mail it here :)


Erica Vogle wrote:

> I recently compiled kernel version 2.2.1 on my RedHat 5.2 system.  This
> machine is using DHCP to obtain its IP info.  After installing the new
> kernel, DHCP client stopped working.  When I was running kernel version
> 2.0.36, DHCP was working fine. Does anyone know what option needs to be
> compiled in for DHCP client to work?  I'm sure I missed it.
>
> --Brian




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From: Raymond Doetjes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Netscape DNS
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 13:25:41 +0100

It seems like Netscape will check for the DNS servers on startup. If they
are not reachable it will probably ignore them. I found out that you always
need to connect first and then start Netscape to get out of that behaviour

Raymond

Len Cuff wrote:

> Can any help please. I have Netscape Communicator 4.5 installed
> under SuSE 6. I connect to my ISP no problem but when I go into
> Netscape, it always complains that it can't find the home page first
> time- no DNS entry. If I select 'HOME' again then it finds it and away I
> go.
> I have just downloaded Navigator 4.08 to try it out but this one never
> finds any sites - always complaining that there is no DNS entry yet if I
> stay connected and bring up Communicator, it finds sites fine.
>
> Very perplexed !
> Cheers,
>         Len

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From: Raymond Doetjes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux and Y2K
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 13:30:05 +0100

99% off all Unix programs are millenium compliant. Since good programmers
use the kernel clock. The kernel clock is 32 bits so the millenium bug will
happen in the year 2038. Though with the newest kernels this is changed to
64 bits so you can go about a few billion years further.,

Raymond

Doug Lerner wrote:

> Now that it is March, 1999 I figure I might as well get around to
> asking. Are the years in Linux 4 digits, or are my server programs which
> support Y2K going to get messed up next year?
>
> Is there a FAQ about this somewhere?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Doug Lerner, Tokyo
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: Raymond Doetjes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: IMAP clients?
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 13:34:13 +0100

What about Netscape! It does a great IMAP!

Raymond

Ben Sandler wrote:

> Anyone know of a good GUI IMAP mail client for linux?
>
> Thanks!
>
> --
> Ben Sandler
> email me: sandler at ymail dot yu dot edu

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From: Raymond Doetjes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: Gateway G6-300 with X Windows HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 13:35:27 +0100

Try downloading a XSuSE X srever from www.suse.com
They have greated a AGP x server.

Raymond

Sean Whyte wrote:

> I am using a Gateway G6-300 with a STB NITRO DVD AGP video card.
> Whenever I run the server the screen is all screwed up, the "X" mouse
> pointer takes up 1/4 of the screen I have to press CTRL+ALT+BACSPACE to
> get out of it! Has anyone had experience with this?  Please any advice
> would help.
>
> Thank You in advance,
> BabylonGod

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From: Raymond Doetjes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ftp uplaoded file user permissions
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 13:37:31 +0100

chmod 700 dirname

Raymond

Bob McLaren wrote:

> When a user with a valid system account uploads files they have
> rw-r--r-- permissions.  How can I change the default so that they are
> rwx------ ?  I tried adding the following entry in the /etc/ftpaccess
> file to specify it as an upload directory and force the permissions but
> it had no effect.
> (upload  /home/ftp/archive       *       yes     the_user
> the_user_group     0700 dirs)
>
> What do I do?
>
> --
> Bob McLaren
> Network Administration
> Financial Statement Services, Inc.
> HTTP://WWW.FSSI-CA.COM

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From: Raymond Doetjes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: POP3 on a vanilla RH52 box
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 13:36:28 +0100

Huh?? Be more specific please I don't know what you wanna accomplish here?

Raymond


"Kerry J. Cox" wrote:

> Just a quick question.  What's the best way for enabling POP3 on a
> vanilla install of RedHat5.2 ?  I want to route mail through my system
> instead of the other mail systems.  What files do I need to change
> and/or edit?  Thanks.
> KJ
>
> --
> .-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-.
> | Kerry J. Cox          Vyzynz International Inc.       |
> | [EMAIL PROTECTED]         Systems Administrator           |
> | (801) 596-7795        http://vii.com                  |
> `-------------------------------------------------------'

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Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 03:10:12 -0800
From: jik- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux and Y2K

Doug Lerner wrote:
> 
> Now that it is March, 1999 I figure I might as well get around to
> asking. Are the years in Linux 4 digits, or are my server programs which
> support Y2K going to get messed up next year?

As with all Unix systems, the time is a large number representing the
second from sometime in 1974.  It will overflow sometime in 203X so the
Y2k isn't something we have to worry about quite yet....though we should
try to get it fixed long before 203X so we don't run into this problem
again.

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Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 03:04:12 -0800
From: jik- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: KDE, Debian, and religion

Stuart Miles wrote:
> 
> **Nick Brown wrote:
> > put something with an @ in it, so [EMAIL PROTECTED] (there it goes
> > again, hello spambots) seemed like a fun idea at the time.
> 
> It also comes under the heading of forged headers and/or addresses, is probably
> against the AUP of your service provider and could get your companies account
> terminated.  Still seem like a fun idea?

Give a break people, everyone hates spam, and I for one hate it when
people send to me and post, so how can you blam him for taking steps to
prevent it?

I don't get the problem at all...people just need to relax a bit.

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From: Raymond Doetjes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: HPUX Emulator
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 13:40:25 +0100

Nope that's not possible. When you've got the sources of those programs
then you can recompile them and if they are written with ANSI C or C++
also with POSIX in mind then you don't even need to change anything
(perhaps a FEW PATHS).

Raymond
"R. de Vries" wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Is it possible to emulate HPUX on Linux?
>
> If it is possible, where can i download the emulator ?
>
> Gtx,
> Richard

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.networking,linux.admin.isp
Subject: Re: hacked login (root telnet cure)
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 12:34:19 GMT

So I'm posting a reply to myself...
so what! :)

(/etc/hosts.deny)

in.telnetd: root@ALL
ALL: ALL

In article <7ce3go$oag$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> All hints are appreciated, and sufficient.
> Mostly I already have what I needed but
> for some reason now - telnet access
> to the gateway machine is *NOT* refusing
> r_oot_ login via the local network. (whereas
> previously it had) ???
>
> Kosta.
>
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From: Raymond Doetjes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: COBOL compiler for Linux?
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 13:55:20 +0100

What about Fortran for FP calculations that's easier morfe clear and faster.

Raymond

Juergen Heinzl wrote:

> In article <7cep12$lak$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, K Lee wrote:
> >Heh, Cobol?  I didn't know people still used it save for some Y to K
> >work...and what's up with that??  I mean, how are we supposed to read
> >stuff when "sky" becomes "skk" and my girlfriend's name becomes "Kolanda"
>
> Try some financial arithmetic in C using floating point 8)
>
> >from "Yolanda"??  I don't get it..I don't get it at all...
>
> Use the right tool for the job mate, or do you really want to recommend C and
> floating point arithmetic for financial calculations ... have heard there are
> still some clowns out there who have one of those Intel PC's at home ...
> A20 gate emulation and such ... I don't get it .. I don't get it at all 8)
> [...]
> >: Several.  See URL below...
> [...]
> >: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <http://www.ntlug.org/~cbbrowne/langcobol.html>
> [...]
>
> Cheers,
> Juergen
>
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