Linux-Misc Digest #477, Volume #20                Thu, 3 Jun 99 14:13:10 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Making an ICQ server (9wands)
  Re: Help! what hostname is that? (Mihaly Gyulai)
  Help! Netscape 4.51 Segmentation Fault (Franklin Phan)
  Re: What are the differences between mySQL and mSQL? (Don Baccus)
  Migrating users from box a to box b ... (Jonathan)
  Re: Decent Partition Sizes?? (hudini)
  Re: 2 modems to provide aggregate bandwidth possible? (no multilink) 
([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: What are the differences between mySQL and mSQL? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Commercially speaking....? (Matthias Warkus)
  Re: Is This Illegal? (brian moore)
  Re: Problems with glibc2/xlibs (Eric Potter)
  Problem with locate ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Strange cron time... (Ding-Jung Han)
  RealPlayer RealAudio, Cannot locate RealAudio decoder (henk van der knaap)
  Re: RealPlayer RealAudio, Cannot locate RealAudio decoder (Kaya Imre)
  ReHat 6.0 Install Problem..-wimper- (Chris Goldsmith)

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From: 9wands <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Making an ICQ server
Date: Thu, 03 Jun 1999 11:57:39 -0500

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Azfar Kazmi wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Is there any ICQ daemon available? I looked at freshmeat.net but found
> none stable. How can I make an ICQ box?
> 
> I have provided a cache server to users and they connect to Internet
> through that. Since they wish to use ICQ and Squid doesn't allow that
> therefore I thought why I don't make my own box an ICQ server. Is that
> possible? I have never used ICQ though. I even don't know how the client
> works.
> 
> I am using Redhat 4.1 kernel 2.0.34
> 
> --
> Azfar Kazmi
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Share what you know. Learn what you don't.

My recommendation is that you replace squid with socks5, which you can
obtain from http://www.socks.nec.com/ ... .  The problem with ICQ and
other proxy servers is that it requires a UDP connection on port 4000 to
the ICQ server.  To the best of my knowledge, socks5 is the only proxy
server protocol that will proxy UDP packets.  The ICQ clients from
Mirabilis, Inc. are already set up to work with a socks5
proxy/firewall.  I'm not so sure about the Linux ICQ clones (kicq, licq,
etc.), although as a general rule, they work better than Mirabilis's ICQ
Java, which tends to be something of a resource hog.

I am not sure, but I don't think that running your own ICQ server will
help as I don't think it will interface properly to the mirabilis server
network.

Hope this helps

-- 
Beware the fury of a patient man.

                - John Dryden
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From: Mihaly Gyulai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Help! what hostname is that?
Date: Thu, 03 Jun 1999 07:45:19 GMT

In article <7j560c$mbp$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  "news.jaring.my" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> well, sorry to say that I finally manage to install Redhat v6.

Why are you sorry that install ?? :)

> ... there is no hostname that I
> have fixed during the installation process.
> What hostname should I key in ?

Are you inside the install yet ? You can give _any_ hostname
that you like... there are no restrictions for it...

(Your hostname will be used in your outgoing letters,
but won't it bother you...)

Even if you use a standalone machine, a hostname is required...

--
Mihaly Gyulai
http://www.freeyellow.com/members5/gyulai/


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From: Franklin Phan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.debian.user
Subject: Help! Netscape 4.51 Segmentation Fault
Date: Thu, 03 Jun 1999 02:18:44 -0700

I am unable to start up Netscape.

1) I was running Debian 2.0 with the libraries that came in the package
(Nov. 1998)
2) I found that I had to make soft links of libc.so.5, libXt.so.6,
libSM.so.6, etc., in /lib to "similar" libraries located in various
directories to avoid "Can't open lib**.so.**" or "Can't load
lib**.so.**" errors
3) Then I started getting "Can't resolve symbol '__res'" error in
addition to "Segmentation fault" error
4) I downloaded nets-2.0.tar.gz from Theofilu Andreas to try if
libc.so.5.4.33 and libXpm.so.4.6 would solve the problem
5) I'm now down to getting only "Segmentation fault" errors everytime.

Can anyone please offer any advice?  Or tell me what this means?

Thank you


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Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.lang.java.databases
Subject: Re: What are the differences between mySQL and mSQL?
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Don Baccus)
Date: 3 Jun 1999 09:30:32 PST

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Paul D. Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>I'm merely pointing out that, as behooves us on a Linux newsgroup, when
>I say "this app is free" I mean much, much more than just "it doesn't
>cost anything".

Hmmm...don't folks in Linux newsgroups know the difference
between "free" and "free and open source"?

-- 

- Don Baccus, Portland OR <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  Nature photos, on-line guides, at http://donb.photo.net

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From: Jonathan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Migrating users from box a to box b ...
Date: Thu, 03 Jun 1999 16:34:52 GMT

Is it just a case of copying the password and group files along with
/home? What about /var/spool/mail ?

I can just tell you're gonna say no ...

links or clues would be welcome

Jonathan


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From: hudini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Decent Partition Sizes??
Date: Thu, 03 Jun 1999 11:40:22 -0500

Matthew Bafford wrote:
> 
> On Wed, 02 Jun 1999 05:13:57 GMT, Azfar Kazmi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> held some poor sysadmin at gun point while typing in the following:
> : > 64meg                       /               /dev/sda2
> :
> : Wow! Isn't 64meg insufficient for /? / will have directories like /dev,
> : /bin, /sbin, /proc, /tmp, etc.
> 
> /proc does not take up space.
> 
> : Azfar
> 
> --Matthew
        Here is mine... Family of four plus accounts for friends... since June
98


Filesystem         1024-blocks  Used Available Capacity Mounted on
/dev/hda1              31199   18747    10841     63%   /
/dev/hda6             563954  485618    46082     91%   /home
/dev/hda7             249823   88615   148308     37%   /tmp
/dev/hda8            1903236 1031236   773621     57%   /usr
/dev/hda9             124895   14742   103704     12%   /var

Swap is on /dev/hda5 127 MB (max for a single)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: 2 modems to provide aggregate bandwidth possible? (no multilink)
Date: Thu, 03 Jun 1999 14:39:02 GMT

It's been a while since I looked at eql, but from what I remember the
ISP needed to support it at the other end as well (I think the ISP even
needs to build the kernel with eql support). I guess a more general
question would be: can I explicitly send and receive packets from 2
different gateways? (e.g. in http, send a GET request explicitly to one
gateway and another request to another gateway)


In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tim Sutherland) wrote:
> In article <7ig6s5$8k3$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >Here's something I've been thinking about, not sure whether it's been
> >posted before or not (all posts I checked always dealt with multilink
> >connections).
> >
> >Scenario 1: Say I have a linux box with two modems in it. Now say
that
> >my ISP allows multiple logins on the same account and these are
dynamic
> >IP accounts. Is it possible to use each modem to connect to the ISP
> >using 2 phone lines and somehow "join" the bandwidth of both
connections
> >seamlessly without using multilink (shotgun)?
>
> Try eql (Serial IP Load Balancing).
>
> --
> If the odds are a million to one against something occurring, chances
> are 50-50 it will.
>


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Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.lang.java.databases
Subject: Re: What are the differences between mySQL and mSQL?
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 03 Jun 1999 16:43:34 GMT

According to Paul D. Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> This is a common misconception, but it is not true.  The database engine
> of MySQL is significantly older and more mature than the entire mSQL
> package; originally, though, it wasn't used with an SQL database.

That'll teach me to post from my failing memory.  ;-)

Quoted from the mysql website:

MySQL> We once started off with the intention of using mSQL
MySQL> to connect to our tables using our own fast low-level
MySQL> (ISAM) routines. However, after some testing we
MySQL> came to the conclusion that mSQL was not fast enough
MySQL> or flexible enough for our needs. This resulted in a
MySQL> new SQL interface to our database but with almost
MySQL> the same API interface as mSQL. This API was chosen
MySQL> to ease porting of third-party code. 
MySQL> 
MySQL> The derivation of the name MySQL is not perfectly
MySQL> clear. Our base directory and a large number of our
MySQL> libraries and tools have had the prefix "my" for well
MySQL> over 10 years. However, Monty's daughter (some
MySQL> years younger) is also named My. So which of the two
MySQL> gave its name to MySQL is still a mystery, even for
MySQL> us. 

>    Heck, mSQL has only had even acceptable indexing since mSQL 2.0
> was released what, a year ago?

I believe some would debate that it has even acceptable indexing in
2.0.  ;-) As long as you recognize its limitations, though, it is a
perfectly acceptable package overall.

-p.


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthias Warkus)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,linux.help,linux.news.groups,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Commercially speaking....?
Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 13:55:05 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

It was the 02 Jun 1999 17:44:57 GMT...
..and Erik Olson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In comp.os.linux.advocacy Craig Kelley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Erik Olson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >> OK, if this is the case then how is calling a GPL'd Linux kernel function 
> >> any different than calling a GPL'd library function?  Being called is what
> >> they both were designed for.
> 
> > When was the last time you linked against the Linux kernel?
> 
> Well what do you call this?
> 
> $ldd a.out
> libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0x40007000)
> /lib/ld-linux.so.2 => /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x00000000)

Linking to two libraries that jump into kernel entry points at times.

mawa
-- 
..do I really want to find love? Or is it just that I want to get
laid and thus prove to all of them and to myself, once and for all,
that I'm not a nerd, may they consider me one or not...

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (brian moore)
Subject: Re: Is This Illegal?
Date: 3 Jun 1999 04:16:06 GMT

On Wed, 02 Jun 1999 22:10:45 -0400, 
 DJ Delorie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> brian moore wrote:
> > But it's not a gray market at all.  It's quite legal (and the GPL
> > encourages it) to redistribute GPL'd code.  It's more than just your
> > right: the goals of the GPL are to make it almost a responsibility to
> > share software with everyone.
> 
> The GPL neither encourages nor discourages the distribution of
> software.  It only specifies terms under which such distribution
> is allowed.  The goal of the GPL is to ensure you have the right
> to use and change your software, not to make GPL'd software popular.

Actually it is.

The purpose of the GPL is precisely to make software popular, as in 'of
the people.'

The goal of the GPL includes not only "the right to use and change your
software", most importantly it includes the right to distribute those
changes to others.

> Have you read the GPL lately?

Yes, have you read it?  You certainly seem to have missed the part
about the right to redistribute GPL'd code.  The preamble is part of
the GPL and it does a reasonable job of explaining the reasons behind
the GPL.  From the very first paragraph, listed as the motive behind
the GPL:

|                                  By contrast, the GNU General Public
| License is intended to guarantee your freedom to share and change free
| software--to make sure the software is free for all its users.

Or perhaps, also from the GPL, this time from the second paragraph:

|   When we speak of free software, we are referring to freedom, not
| price.  Our General Public Licenses are designed to make sure that you
| have the freedom to distribute copies of free software (and charge for
| this service if you wish), that you receive source code or can get it
| if you want it, that you can change the software or use pieces of it
| in new free programs; and that you know you can do these things.

Again, the right to distribute is listed first.

Merely allowing licensees to change and use code is not what the GPL is
about: it is fundamentally about distribution of those changes, going to
great trouble to establish that source code belongs to everyone, which
of course means that object code equally belongs to all.

To say that the GPL doesn't encourage distribution of code is nonsense.

-- 
Brian Moore                       | "The Zen nature of a spammer resembles
      Sysadmin, C/Perl Hacker     |  a cockroach, except that the cockroach
      Usenet Vandal               |  is higher up on the evolutionary chain."
      Netscum, Bane of Elves.                 Peter Olson, Delphi Postmaster

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Eric Potter)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Problems with glibc2/xlibs
Date: 3 Jun 1999 16:37:55 GMT

[Posted and mailed]

Robert Tuck enlightened this group thus:
> Can somebody clarify things about glibc2? At the moment I have a libc5
> system, with glibc2 installed in /usr/local/lib. As I understand it, I
> should be able to run anything (binaries, not compile until I set up
> gcc) which requires either glibc2 or libc5 with no further mods.

This is not the case.

> However, when I try to update my XServer to the glibc2 version of
> XFree86, lots of stuff using the Xlibs such as gs, netscape break. Also,
> if I stick with the libc5 version of X, I cannot install the glibc2
> version of netscape 4.6? What is going on?
> 
> Any help would be appreciated.

If you want to run the glibc2 version of netscape, for instance, you will need
not only glibc2, but any other libs that netscape links to must also be compiled
under glibc2.  This includes libstdc++, libXpm, and all of the libs that come
with Xfree86.  If you want to upgrade to glibc2, then a piecemeal approach
will not work.  You need to upgrade all graphical toolkit libraries to those
that were compiled under glibc2.  Workarounds can be made by changing the
LD_LIBRARY_PATH variable before you launch a program.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.misc,
Subject: Problem with locate
Date: Thu, 03 Jun 1999 18:42:42 +0200




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From: Ding-Jung Han <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Strange cron time...
Date: Thu, 03 Jun 1999 13:45:27 -0400

This has puzzled me for a while. On my system (RH 5.2 with kernel 2.2.9)
I have the following cron-related rpms installed:

crontabs-1.7-3
ucrond-1.2.4-1

I notice that every evening at 21:02 my daily system cron job will start
up. HOWEVER, according to my /etc/crontab it should occur at 04:02 every
morning -- here is my /etc/crontab:

=====
SHELL=/bin/bash
PATH=/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin
MAILTO=root

# run-parts
01 * * * * root run-parts /etc/cron.hourly
02 4 * * * root run-parts /etc/cron.daily
22 4 * * 0 root run-parts /etc/cron.weekly
42 4 1 * * root run-parts /etc/cron.monthly
=====

Here is my /var/log/cron:

=====
Jun  01 Tue 23:42  User:root Command:run-parts /etc/cron.monthly
...
Jun  02 Wed 21:02  User:root Command:run-parts /etc/cron.daily
Jun  02 Wed 22:01  User:root Command:run-parts /etc/cron.hourly
...
=====

Would anyone please tell me what's going on here? Any comment is
appreciated,

Ben

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From: henk van der knaap <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.debian.usr
Subject: RealPlayer RealAudio, Cannot locate RealAudio decoder
Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 16:29:16 +1200

Dear Readers,

I have installed RealPlayer 5.0 on my Linux Debian 2.1 box. However I have
struck the following problem, every time I try to play a realaudio file I
get the following message:
=====================================================================
File compression not supported. Cannot locate the requested RealAudio
decoder. Error 38.
======================================================================

I have tried to find more information from the Real Audio website, but I
have not been able to get any further.

Is there anybody who can help me solve this problem.

Many thanks,

Henk

Henk van der Knaap,
92 Halswell Junction Road,
Christchurch, New Zealand.
Phone/fax 64 3 3229185

My  Operating system is Linux Debian 2.1
===================================================
My e-mail address is as follows:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
===================================================




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From: Kaya Imre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.debian.usr
Subject: Re: RealPlayer RealAudio, Cannot locate RealAudio decoder
Date: Thu, 03 Jun 1999 17:45:08 +0000

Graham Beint wrote:
> 
> henk van der knaap wrote:
> >
> > Dear Readers,
> >
> > I have installed RealPlayer 5.0 on my Linux Debian 2.1 box. However I have
> > struck the following problem, every time I try to play a realaudio file I
> > get the following message:
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > File compression not supported. Cannot locate the requested RealAudio
> > decoder. Error 38.
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > I have tried to find more information from the Real Audio website, but I
> > have not been able to get any further.
> >
> > Is there anybody who can help me solve this problem.
> >
> > Many thanks,
> >
> > Henk
> >
> > Henk van der Knaap,
> > 92 Halswell Junction Road,
> > Christchurch, New Zealand.
> > Phone/fax 64 3 3229185
> >
> > My  Operating system is Linux Debian 2.1
> > ===================================================
> > My e-mail address is as follows:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > ===================================================
> 
> It seems updating /etc/ld.so.conf is not enough
> 
> run it via a wrapper such as the following
> 
> /usr/X11R6/bin/rvplayer
> -----------------------
> 
> #!/bin/sh
> 
> #set this appropriately
> RVPLAYER_LOCATION=/opt/rvplayer5.0
> 
> LD_LIBRARY_PATH=$RVPLAYER_LOCATION:$LD_LIBRARY_PATH
> exec $RVPLAYER_LOCATION:rvplayer ${@:+"$@"}

I tried to run your shell program but received an error
stating that ${@:+"$@"}:bad substitution

Any comments?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris Goldsmith)
Subject: ReHat 6.0 Install Problem..-wimper-
Date: 3 Jun 1999 04:16:22 GMT

I'm trying to install RH 6.0 on a Pentium 90. My computer has a C and D 
drive. I want to keep Win 95 on C and install Linux on D. The D drive is 
a 1 Gig Western Digital 21000 Caviar. The D drive works fine in Win 95, 
but Linux has a problem with it. It can't read/create the partition table 
for this drive. Linux can see the drive, but can't use it. At the 'boot:' 
prompt I tried typing 'linux hdb=2100,16,63' but this did not help. I've 
also tried to partition the drive using fdisk, but to no avail.  When I 
try Disk Druid, it gives me the 'can't find partition.....no such 
file...' error. Any suggestions? Thanks!  

             Chris


 
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