Linux-Misc Digest #495, Volume #18                Wed, 6 Jan 99 20:13:08 EST

Contents:
  Re: Restricting directory access with Apache ("Adam")
  Re: automatic startx under SuSE 5.3? ("Adam")
  Re: Linux as gateway server? ("Adam")
  Re: Anti-Linux FUD (Richard Steiner)
  Re: euro support in kernel 2.0 (Mike Werner)
  Re: AOL as ISP? (Gary Butler)
  Linux as gateway server? (Michael H.)
  Re: Should I install Linux on my new computer? (John)
  Re: Intermittently SLOW 486 Machines ("Martin Doehring")
  Re: what are hardlinks for? (William Burrow)
  Re: Netscape eats up *all* the swap (William Burrow)
  Re: html editor (Paul Seelig)
  Re: Start Linux from within windoze?? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Linux FREEZES! (Alessandro Ferioli)
  Re: User Config in RH 5.2 Control Panel (Graham Daniell)
  Re: Apache with ASP (Andy Johnson)
  Re: Apache with ASP (Sam E. Trenholme)
  Re: Newbie asks: why Linux? (David Steuber)
  Re: Glibc2.0.7 where is it ? (brent verner)
  Re: Cold Fusion (brent verner)
  Re: shutting down screenless server - when done?? (Gary Momarison)
  Re: Quotas ("Jay D Ribak")
  Re: Quotas ("Jay D Ribak")
  Re: gpm mouse problem (Jim Buchanan)

----------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Adam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Restricting directory access with Apache
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 03:10:22 -0500

There is extensive documentation for apache on www.apache.org.  There is
absolutely no reason for you to ask here except for laziness.

--Adam
adam@virtual-estate[nospam].net
Quality domain hosting from $5/month
http://www.virtual-estate.net

Mark Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
:I want to restrict directory access to
:/home/httpd/html/kholdan/pass/
:So that it uses .htaccess and .htpasswd
:Could someone send me an example of the lines I will have to add to
:access.conf?
:



------------------------------

From: "Adam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: automatic startx under SuSE 5.3?
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 03:17:50 -0500

If you only want to ever run X, then you should use XDM as your login
server.  Try putting it in as the last thing in your last init script.
(/usr/X11R6/bin/xdm)

To try it out, just type "xdm" from console.  (NOT from within X)

In order to toggle out of X to a virtual console, try control-alt-F1, when
you are done, type Alt-F7 to get back to X.

--Adam
adam@virtual-estate[nospam].net
Quality domain hosting from $5/month
http://www.virtual-estate.net

steve mcadams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
:I'm running SuSE 5.3 and have been trying to figure out how to get
:-one- of my userids to come up and do an automatic startx.
:
:I tried putting "startx" at the bottom of my .profile, and although it
:comes up, there is a message in the xterm saying that the X server is
:already running; the xterm then closes itself.  fvwm2 continues to
:work, but I'd like it to come up cleanly.
:
:Tried YaST but couldn't find anything in it that seemed to help,
:looked in 3 books and couldn't find anything there either.  Apparently
:this is so easy everybody else knows it already<g>  tia.  -steve
:
:p.s.  When you're running X, how do you toggle to another virtual
:console, or is that option gone the moment you startx?
:--------------------------------------------------------
:Tools for programmers: http://www.codetools.com/showcase



------------------------------

From: "Adam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux as gateway server?
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 03:17:45 -0500

It's not a router (per se) though, unless you have real, routable IP's on
both sides.

What you need to do is configure your Linux server to be an IP Masquerading
firewall.  It will use Network Address Translation to convert your internal
IP's to external IP's.  See http://www.flounder.net/firewalling.txt

By the way: it is incredibly wasteful to send your entire pgp key with every
message.  Try putting it on the web, and giving out the address instead.

--Adam
adam@virtual-estate[nospam].net
Quality domain hosting from $5/month
http://www.virtual-estate.net

Michael H. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:76unc5$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
:I have a few windows 95 machines, and a Linux(slakware) server,
:I configured the windows95 machines to use the Linux server
:as their default TCP/IP "gateway", and ran "routed -g -s" on the
:Linux server, but it didn't work, DNS is ok, and it works through
:a proxy, but proxies are too clumsy, and aren't widely supported.
:I was wondering if anyone could help?
:--
:Michael Tang H.
:UNIX Programmer
:GlassFish Networks




------------------------------

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Steiner)
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy
Subject: Re: Anti-Linux FUD
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1999 03:28:32 -0600

Here in comp.os.linux.misc, David O'Bedlam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
spake unto us, saying:

>Uh, people, WITF is a "FUD"? I must've been sick that day.

Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt.  Term coined by Gene Amdahl to describe
various misinformation tactics used by IBM (at the time) to keep IBM
customers (or potential IBM customers) from purchasing products from
IBM's competitors.

Also technique used by folks to drop bits of subtle misinformation in
order to misrepresent a competitors product (see the various advocacy
discussions on the net pertaining to OS/2 vs. Windows, PC vs. Mac,
Linux vs. Windows, Linux vs. FreeBSD, etc.).

-- 
   -Rich Steiner  >>>--->  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  >>>---> Bloomington, MN
       OS/2 + Linux (Slackware+RedHat+SuSE) + FreeBSD + Solaris +
        WinNT4 + Win95 + PC/GEOS + Executor = PC Hobbyist Heaven!
        My message above.  Your response here: __________________

------------------------------

From: Mike Werner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.os.linux.caldera,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.m68k,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.powerpc,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: euro support in kernel 2.0
Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1999 17:55:58 -0500

ftp://ftp.freshmeat.net/pub/euro-patch/
It exists.  Contains replacement keymaps, fonts for both console and
X11, and some docs.  66kb download, so it's even small.
-- 
Mike Werner  KA8YSD           |  "Where do you want to go today?"
ICQ# 12934898                 |  "As far from Redmond as possible!"
AIM Screen Name Reznaeous     |
'91 GS500E                    |
Morgantown WV                 |

=====BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK=====
Version: 3.1
GU d-@ s:+ a- C++>$ UL++ P+ L+++ E W++ N++ !o w--- O- !M V-- PS+ PE+
 Y+ R+ !tv b+++(++++) DI+ D--- G e*>++ h! r++ y++++
======END GEEK CODE BLOCK======


------------------------------

From: Gary dot Butler at ibm dot net (Gary Butler)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: AOL as ISP?
Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1999 17:34:18 -0600
Reply-To: Gary dot Butler at ibm dot net

On Fri, 1 Jan 1999 13:49:50 -0500, JD said:
>What did you expect? .. AOL is for kids.. or people that are new to
>computers.. or don't care to learn an insane a lot about them... for anyone
>even remotely serious about computers it's a joke...
>
Accessing the Internet via AOL is like viewing the universe through a
toilet paper tube.


------------------------------

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael H.)
Subject: Linux as gateway server?
Date: 6 Jan 1999 04:04:21 GMT

I have a few windows 95 machines, and a Linux(slakware) server,
I configured the windows95 machines to use the Linux server
as their default TCP/IP "gateway", and ran "routed -g -s" on the
Linux server, but it didn't work, DNS is ok, and it works through
a proxy, but proxies are too clumsy, and aren't widely supported.
I was wondering if anyone could help?


--
Michael Tang H.
UNIX Programmer
GlassFish Networks

"Yesterday, upon the stair,
 I met a man who wasn't there.
 He wasn't there again today --
 I think he's from the CIA."
=====BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK=====
Version: PGP for Personal Privacy 5.0
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=jMXk
=====END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK=====

------------------------------

From: John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Should I install Linux on my new computer?
Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1999 22:41:48 -0500

Ted Unnikumaran wrote:

> I am about to purchase my first computer, and I am not sure as to what
> operating system I should install.  For the most part I am new to
> computers so I would like some help.  I really don't play a lot of
> computer games and plan on using my computer to learn more about
> programming and to use the internet.
>
> This is what I know
> The reason I hear Linux is better is that
> 1.  It is free
> 2.  I would be on a similar environment as most of my school projects
> 3.  With windows i won't be able to afford a lot of software available and
> with linux most of the software is either free or cheap.
> 4.  I want to practice developing a database before my database class and
> I have heard it is easier to do so using linux.
> 5.  It crashes a lot less
>
> The only reason I would want to put Windows 98 or Windows Nt on my
> computer is because I really don't know that much about Windows and this
> would force me to learn it so it would help me get a real job after I
> graduate. additionally at my present job. I program using visual
> basic and I am going to start programming using visual c++, and would like
> to start using visual j++, and windows would allow me to work at home
> Also I want to use the new quicken 99 to help me manage my family's
> finances and as far as I know they don't have a version for linux.
> Is it possible to use those programs with linux?  If not is there a way to
> have both linux and windows on my computer because I think I remember
> seeing some program that allows you to do that.
>
> anyways, sorry it was soo long, and hopefully you all can help me.
>
> Thanks
> Ted

Yes, there is a very easy way to dual boot Win9* and Linux.  It's called LILO
(LInux LOader)  and it is really easy to set up.  If I were you I would first
install Win9X, leaving enough room for any Linux Partitions and then install
Linux from a RedHat CD.  ( 2 bucks at http://www.cheapbytes.com/)  The RedHat
istallation installs and configures lilo automatically.

John



------------------------------

From: "Martin Doehring" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Intermittently SLOW 486 Machines
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 18:28:04 -0500

I had this problem with one of my 486 machines, it is an M-Tech R407
motherboard with an AMD DX4/100 installed. It would randomly switch between
acting normal and like a 10 Mhz machine, in fact, it acted just as if I
would randomly hit the turbo button (clue 1). I would run it under DOS
running the Landmark program, and could watch it speed up and slow down.

I was able to get an upgrade BIOS for the machine and with the new BIOS, it
worked fine, the only problem is that the new BIOS only saw 128K of cache,
while the older (buggy) one saw 256K! From these two things, I assume that
there is some problem with the cache which the newer BIOS sees and so
disables the buggy part while the older one just didn't see it.

note to clue one: some motherboards implemented the turbo button as
disabling the cache, the first clue that this might be a cache problem.

martin




------------------------------

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (William Burrow)
Subject: Re: what are hardlinks for?
Date: 6 Jan 1999 04:59:00 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Tue, 05 Jan 1999 00:33:58 -0800,
Bob McGowan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>An additional use, which I believe also applies to symlinks (note: hard
>links were in the original UNIX, symlinks came later, with, I believe,
>BSD versions) is used by several system commands.  Use ls with the
>proper option (-i on my system) and it will give the inode number with
>the file name.  Use this on: vi, view, ex and you will see that they all
>have the same inode number (unless they are symlinks).  This also
>applies to cp, mv and ln itself.  This feature lets a single executable
>file do several different things, based on the name used to run it.

The inode has nothing to do with the behaviour of these programs.  The
same effect can be achieved by using symlinks.  I see no advantage to
using hard links for the purpose over symlinks.


>> I am kinda short on uses specific to hard links, but they can be handy.


-- 
William Burrow, VE9WIL  --  New Brunswick, Canada     o
Copyright 1999 William Burrow                     ~  /\
                                                ~  ()>()

------------------------------

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (William Burrow)
Subject: Re: Netscape eats up *all* the swap
Date: 6 Jan 1999 04:50:58 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On 5 Jan 1999 13:37:56 -0500,
Alexander Viro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>I have 16 megs of real RAM and about 30 megs on my swap partition.
>>
>>reguardless of what you decide to run, this is a problem. These days, you
>>should always have at least 64 megs of swap space.
>
>Really? Two big compiles in parallel, heavy number-crunching, TeX, editing.
>16M RAM + 32M swap. Not even close to full. Oh, and diff between two large
>trees piped to bzip2. Also not the lightest thing in this world. Processor?
>K5-75. Are you sure that you are in the right group? Sounds like you are
>either using 4.4-derived kernel (fine, but Linux VM differs from 4.4 and
>takes less swap) or, excuse me, are running Windows.

Netscape is a super pig.  I ran out of VM cut and pasting some text into
a TEXTAREA box (there was about 32 meg swap available when I started). 
Ludicrous.  The only other thing that really eats memory is Java.  

It competes with Netscape for piggishness (and what can only be worse,
it is included in Netscape -- that option is OFF).  The idea of doing
Java development on a 16 meg RAM machine is .. I'm just at a loss for
words.  Impossible?  32 megs RAM is slow enough.


-- 
William Burrow, VE9WIL  --  New Brunswick, Canada     o
Copyright 1999 William Burrow                     ~  /\
                                                ~  ()>()

------------------------------

From: Paul Seelig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: html editor
Date: 07 Jan 1999 00:57:31 +0100

Indiana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Does anyone know a good html editor for XWindow and can i run webmaker
> even if i have enlightenment not kde.
>
<A HREF="http://www.advasoft.com/">asWedit HTML editor</A>
"ftp://sunsite.doc.ic.ac.uk/packages/www/asWedit/"
"ftp://sunsite.doc.ic.ac.uk/packages/www/asWedit/i18n-resources/"

------------------------------

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Start Linux from within windoze??
Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1999 15:07:13 -0800

In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 01/06/99 
   at 08:50 PM, Karl Kahre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:

>Create a boot floppy disk and boot from that onto your Linux partition.  No
>dual boot is necessary, without the floppy it will boot into NT and you
>can't see the Linux partition.  Boot from the floppy and it puts you into
>the Linux partition.  Any Linux users would need a floppy, of course.

Aha ... that's the ticket I need! Thanks!  (Hadn't thought about that for
anything other than survival!)

Kenward

ps. thanks to C. Maximus too, for the same suggestion   :)
    My thoughts about a boot manager have disappeared.
-- 
===========================================================
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
===========================================================


------------------------------

Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1999 00:59:25 +0100
From: Alessandro Ferioli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Linux FREEZES!

I installed Linux Slackware 3.5 on a PII 333 Mhz, 96 Mb RAM, 8Gb HD EIDE
(SOYO 6KBE motherboard, AWARD BIOS), Expertcolor 4 Mb S3 AGP graphic
adapter (DV5357).
An ISA sound blaster, an ISA 3C503 and a PCI INTEL video camera card are
also fitted in their slots.
A 100 Mb swap partition is present.

It works fine but it hangs when using some applications, like games,
ghostview, textedit, ...
Simply the system (keyboard, mouse, applications) stops responding and I
must hardware reset.

I defined 94 Mb RAM in LILO boot, to avoid possible top memory
conflicts, but the problem persists.

I have the same problem with Red Hat 5.0 installed in another hard drive
partition.

The crashes are much more frequent with 24 bit color X server instead of
8 bit color X server (XFree 3.3.2).

Can anybody help me ? Do you have any idea how to solve it ?


Thanks


Alessandro



------------------------------

From: Graham Daniell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: User Config in RH 5.2 Control Panel
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 15:33:25 +0800

Thanks,

This gave me the clue I needed.  On my system (Redhat linux 5.2) it is 

userconf &

but you put me on the right track to finding it.

Regards,
graham Daniell



On Tue, 5 Jan 1999, Bill Voight wrote:

> usercfg &
> 
> BV
> 
> Graham Daniell wrote:
> 
> > I have installed Red Hat linux 5.2 , and when I start X as root, I get
> > the Control Panel, but it has no User Configurator icon.  In the RH
> > Linux 5.0 Version it was there.  What am I doing to cause it not to
> > install, and can I install it manually after the initial system
> > install?  If so how?
> >
> > Hoping someone can help,
> > Graham Daniell
> 

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1999 18:25:46 -0500
From: Andy Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Apache with ASP

You'll need to use ChiliASP from ChiliSoft (http://www.chilisoft.com).

"Sam E. Trenholme" wrote:

> >I have Apache-1.3.3 and would like to know how to enable ASP suppport?
>
> Excuse me for asking the obvious, but what can asp do that CGI and SHTML
> can't do?
>
> - Sam
>
> --
> Email address here: http://www.samiam.org/ssi/mailme.shtml
> Music I write here: http://www.mp3.com/sam http://www.samiam.org/mp3
> Mp3 reviews here:   http://www.samiam.org/music


------------------------------

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Sam E. Trenholme)
Subject: Re: Apache with ASP
Date: 6 Jan 1999 16:18:59 -0800

>Nothing as far as I know.  However one of my clients wants to use ASP.

Looks like, until chilisoft makes a Linux port, you will have to either
see if the ASP stuff can be made in to CGI-BINs, or use a non-Linux
solution.

- Sam
-- 
Email address here: http://www.samiam.org/ssi/mailme.shtml
Music I write here: http://www.mp3.com/sam http://www.samiam.org/mp3
Mp3 reviews here:   http://www.samiam.org/music

------------------------------

From: David Steuber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Newbie asks: why Linux?
Date: 05 Jan 1999 22:05:07 -0500

Try Linux.  See if you like it.  If you don't, get a Mac.  The best
image processing software under a grand is probably on the Mac.  The
best rendering software may have been ported to the Mac, but that is
really in the domain of Unix.  I don't know what is available on Linux 
beyond Pov-Ray, BMRT, and Mesa.

-- 
David Steuber
http://www.david-steuber.com
s/trashcan/david/ to reply by mail

"Hackers penetrate and ravage delicate, private, and publicly owned
computer systems, infecting them with viruses and stealing materials
for their own ends.  These people, they're, they're  terrorists."

-- Secret Service Agent Richard Gill

------------------------------

From: brent verner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: Glibc2.0.7 where is it ?
Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1999 07:26:54 -0500

AFAIK ...
ftp://alpha.gnu.org/gnu

maybe there is some other place

brent





Matt wrote:
> 
> Help,
> 
> I need to upgrade to glibc2.0.7 I have upgraded to 2.0.6 but
> now I need glib2.0.7 does anyone know where I can get a download
> of the locale, crypt and other files I need (like the 2.0.6 ones ?
> 
> Many thanks
> 
> Matt


------------------------------

From: brent verner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Cold Fusion
Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1999 07:18:34 -0500

CF = 'bad choice' . . . no matter what the platform. 
another in-the-shadow-of-MS pusher of proprietary
non-open-source applications. 

my $.02

brent


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> Hi All,
> 
>   I work at an ISP that is considering fielding a Cold Fusion server - to be more
> specific our webmaster is wanting me to field one.
> 
>   At any rate we prefer doing such things on Intel gear - unfortunately it
> appears that Cold Fusion is only available for Solaris-on-Sparc, or NT-on-Wintel.
> 
>   After looking through the FAQ that Allare has on their website I was interested
> to see that they have a very explicit NO to the question of "when will Cold
> Fusion be released for Linux"  This tells me that they must have gotten a lot
> of queries about it - and that they consider it a nuisance question.
> 
>   Maybe I'm throwing a match to gas here but I have to ask - are the CF
> developers a bunch of assholes or what?  Is the published statement a FUD
> intended to get me to waste a bunch of money on a version I don't want
> while behind the scenes they are hustling out a Linux version, or is it that
> the CF Unix people are violently anti Unix-on-Intel and won't release a version
> over their dead bodies?
> 
>   I most definitely don't want to go down the Wintel road - I prefer to not have to
> drive 20 miles to the office at 2:00am to reboot the NT server when it goes down,
> I'd rather Telnet into it and restart things.  However, not being a web designer
> myself nor having the slightest interest in it I have to ask is this CF stuff really
> that valuable that Allare thinks that they can just release it on whatever platform
> they feel like, and screw you if you think differently?
> 
>   I find it hard to believe that the vast majority of professional ISP's out there
> (discounting the giant ones like AOL, etc.) would want to field an NT server if
> they could help it, and I also find it hard to believe that Solaris on Sparc is far
> more dominant a platform among most medium-level ISP's than Linux-on-Intel.
> I feel something is not right here but not having a history of web development
> I don't think I know what it is.  With the major database vendors releasing or
> planning on releasing Linux code I can't believe that CF's problem has to do
> with the lack of a database.
> 
>   Anyone that can shed some light on this please tell me.
> 
> Thanks,
> Ted


------------------------------

From: Gary Momarison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: shutting down screenless server - when done??
Date: 06 Jan 1999 16:26:30 -0800

Gerard Roos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Do "man inittab" and "man shutdown" and determine where you
can command things during shutdown. Runlevel 0.

Then you could write a "goodbye" sound to /dev/audio; there
is some funky way to get useable audio out of the box speaker
without a sound card. I've forgotten where I saw that. Try
Deja News or web search.

Or hook up a 5$ keyboard and do some LED flashing with
the xset command if you can get it to work.

------------------------------

From: "Jay D Ribak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: Quotas
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 07:45:31 -0500

quota -v is not working either...still getting the (none) message.   Oh
well, I guess I can just wait till the power goes out on Jan 1, 2000 to have
my machine rebooted to find out :)

Todd A. Wood wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>Jay D Ribak wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>     I have successfully setup quotas on my system.  I have edited quotas
for
>> a few test users.   As those users I have exceeded the soft quotas and
hit
>> the hard quotas.   It gave the user the proper warnings in those cases
(i.e.
>> user quota exceeded and such).   Repquota presents the proper info about
>> those users when I run it.   The only thing that ISN'T working is the
user
>> 'quota' command.  When I run the command as one of the users, it says
User
>> quotas for username (uid xxx): none.   Obviously this is false, as there
IS
>> a quota and the quota has even been exceeded.   I would like to implement
>> quotas for users, but the whole system is useless to me if the end user
>> cannot check their quotas on their own.
>>
>> <snip>
>Try using the the -v parameter... "quota -v"
>
>i.e.
>
>[tawood@tawman /stage]$ id
>uid=500(tawood) gid=500(tawood) groups=500(tawood),0(root),100(users)
>[tawood@tawman /stage]$ pwd
>/stage
>[tawood@tawman /stage]$ quota
>Disk quotas for user tawood (uid 500): none
>[tawood@tawman /stage]$ quota -v
>Disk quotas for user tawood (uid 500):
>  Filesystem  blocks  quota  limit  grace  files  quota  limit  grace
>   /dev/hda6   75638      0      0           139      0      0
>[tawood@tawman /stage]$ grep stage /etc/fstab
>/dev/hda6     /stage         ext2    defaults,usrquota,grpquota 1 3
>
>--
>
>[root@tawman /stage]# repquota /stage
>                        Block limits               File limits
>User            used    soft    hard  grace    used  soft  hard  grace
>root      --   19496       0       0             97     0     0
>tawood    --   75638       0       0            139     0     0
>1000      --      98       0       0              3     0     0
>18940     --    5851       0       0              6     0     0
>33108     --     554       0       0            115     0     0
>
>Looks like it is working same / as design as yours.. who knows.
>
>Sincerely,
>Todd A. Wood



------------------------------

From: "Jay D Ribak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: Quotas
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 07:48:20 -0500

The fstab is setup as you described.  I don't recall remounting the drives.
But I can't understand why the quota command would not work when the quota
system in general is working--it tells the user when they exceeded quota and
won't let them create files, and the super user repquota command displays
the proper info.   Just that damn pesky quota command doesn't work.  The
frustrating part is now that it is all running and setup, its fairly
useless, as its not fair to implement quotas on user and not have them be
able to find out what it is ;)

Thanks
Jay


Adam wrote in message <76v1nq$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>Have you, or have you not remounted your volumes with quota turned on?
This
>is the reason that a reboot is suggested.
>
>Your /etc/fstab should look something like this for the volumes with quotas
>enabled:
>
>/dev/sdb1       /home           ext2    defaults,usrquota        0       1
>
>--Adam
>adam@virtual-estate[nospam].net
>Quality domain hosting from $5/month
>http://www.virtual-estate.net
>
>
>



------------------------------

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jim Buchanan)
Subject: Re: gpm mouse problem
Date: 6 Jan 1999 12:34:39 GMT

Irina Rempt ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Charles Mulks wrote:
> > I had the same problem. Now, when I reboot, I do the following
> > 
> > ps aux | grep gpm
> > 
> > then kill the process id that shows up
> I think "killall gpm" will work as well (it did when I was trying to

If you always run under X, you could just comment out the line(s) that
invokes gpm at boot time. In Slackware 3.4, it's two lines in
/etc/rc.d/rc.local:

echo "Running gpm..."
gpm -t ps2 -r40

In RedHat, I think it would be somewhere under /etc/rc.d/, I don't
have a RedHat machine handy to check, and their start-up is a bit more
complex.


-- 
Jim Buchanan        [EMAIL PROTECTED]         [EMAIL PROTECTED]
================= http://members.iquest.net/~jbuchana ====================
"Trying to learn to hack on a DOS or Windows machine or under MacOS is
 like trying to learn to dance while wearing a body cast." -Eric Raymond
==========================================================================

------------------------------


** FOR YOUR REFERENCE **

The service address, to which questions about the list itself and requests
to be added to or deleted from it should be directed, is:

    Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

You can send mail to the entire list (and comp.os.linux.misc) via:

    Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Linux may be obtained via one of these FTP sites:
    ftp.funet.fi                                pub/Linux
    tsx-11.mit.edu                              pub/linux
    sunsite.unc.edu                             pub/Linux

End of Linux-Misc Digest
******************************

Reply via email to