Linux-Misc Digest #495, Volume #24 Wed, 17 May 00 02:13:02 EDT
Contents:
Re: Modifying the Kernel (Paul Kimoto)
Re: How to protect Linux against power interruptions?? ("Michael Westerman")
Re: Changing KEY MAPPINGS... (Tux)
Re: Reinstallation too slow ("Michael Westerman")
Re: bootable red hat CD (Dave Brown)
Re: NFS mount fails with "RPC: program not registered"; help!
([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: add a second root-account ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: e-commerce solutions ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
not properly umounted at shutdown (Neil)
Re: Help!!!..MAKING A NEWSGROUP LIST...!!!! (Tux)
Re: vi - how to do case insensitive search? (Dave Brown)
netscape cache (Dave Brown)
another netscape question... nameservice? (Dave Brown)
Re: WYSIWYG web page generator (Dave Brown)
RH 6.1/6.2 Installer and ext2 fs (Dave Brown)
Re: kudzu segmentation fault (Dave Brown)
Re: Distribution "for" CD-urning w/ IDE? (Dave Brown)
Re: a display problem of linux system. (Dave Brown)
Re: Gnome DPMS (Matthew Haley)
Re: not properly umounted at shutdown ("David ..")
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Kimoto)
Subject: Re: Modifying the Kernel
Date: 17 May 2000 01:20:40 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <8fsobl$f6q$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Chad Lemmen wrote:
> I'm using Corel Linux and I found instructions on compiling a new
> kernel from source. I think I could do that ok, but what I want to do
> is modify my current kernel. Is there a way to take the existing kernel
> in /boot and umcompress that into /usr/src/linux
No, you cannot turn compiled code back into source code.
> then I have a patch
> file I want to apply then recompile that with make xconfig.
--
Paul Kimoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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From: "Michael Westerman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: How to protect Linux against power interruptions??
Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 15:24:04 +1000
or mount the disks syncronusly in fstab.
use a cdrom iso9660 filesystem burnt on to a bootable cd.....
have a power enerator on standby and a ups to keep power till it starts
personally i just reset mine (power button) if it locks and it (turbo linux
at this stage) recovers with out any dramas 8.4 gb ide hard disk.
Robie Basak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> On Sat, 13 May 2000 21:18:26 GMT, Allen Unrau said:
> >I am working on building Linux-based Internet gateway/router/VPN boxes.
> >They will be going into environments where the users will not know the
> >proper shutdown proceedures, nor even why they should be followed. Is
> >there a way to protect Linux against the effects of power interruptions
> >(power failure, maid trips over plug, etc.) My goal is to make Linux run
> >as much like a dedicated hardware device as possible.
> >
> >Is there a program that periodically syncs the disks? How about running
> >without swap? Any other ideas (other than providing a UPS)?
>
> If that's all it does, then you can set up the system to mount all
> filesystems read-only, and then nothing can be corrupted.
>
> Or even use a floppy disk, or network boot.
>
> Robie.
> --
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From: Tux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,nf.comp.linux
Subject: Re: Changing KEY MAPPINGS...
Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 02:47:44 -0230
Steve wrote:
> On Mon, 15 May 2000 07:01:17 -0230, Tux wrote:
> >Hi again guys...
> >
> >Is there some way in KDE that I can change key mappings....??? For
> >example, if I wanted to use the <DEL> key that is located under the
> >numeric keypad the same way that the regular <DEL> key used, is there
> >some way that I can do this... I'm using netscape messenger right now,
> >and it doesn't make use of the numeric keypad at all (unless the
> ><NUM LOCK> key on...
> >
> >Can someone help... Thanks...
>
> You ask a lot of questions about netscape, you havn't got the message yet
> have you it's not a news reader or a mail client it's a web browser.
>
> Netscape have full documentation on their site if you insist on using it.
Have you ever used netscape messenger...??? Are you telling me that you
think that netscape messenger is a web
browser...??? Netscape COMMUNICATOR is a suite of web utilities SUCH AS 1.
A browser (Navigator), 2. A Mail Reader (Messenger), which doubles as an
NNTP reader (Collabra), and 3. A webpage editor/creator (Composer).
It appears that you are only familiar with Navigator, not Communicator as a
whole...
And besides, I wasn't asking a question about netscape, I was asking about
key mappings in KDE....!!!! I used netscape as an example... If you
didn't like my question, why did you even bother to answer it...!!!!???
There are a lot of very helpful people in these newsgroups, and I appreciate
you all...
Take care,
Trevor...
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From: "Michael Westerman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Reinstallation too slow
Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 15:27:17 +1000
washing machine dosn't break
video tape dosn't look to healthy though (jam marks) :<)
don't think ill buy a ups for eather though
> You shouldn't just turn off the power, usually there's something else that
> you should do first so that the machine doesn't get damaged, when you've
> watched enough of the film you don't just unplug the video player without
> stopping the tape from running, and you don't just turn a washing machine
> off while it's in the middle of it's program.
>
> To shutdown use something like
>
> # /sbin/shutdown -h now ## this shuts down safely and then you can
> ## turn off when it's finished doing what
> ## it does.
>
>
> # /sbin/shutdown -r now ## this will shutdown and restart the
> ## machine safely.
>
> >
> >2. The reinstallation is smooth, after many hours frustrated. But on the
> >reboot the PC just freezes.
>
> What error messages are you getting or at what point does it freeze, tell
> us what you're typing when prompted and what the promt is and what happens
> after that, what are you seeing on the screen at the time of the freeze?
>
> >
> >What makes me puzzled is that, several books about installation have no
way
> >out after repartition. So, if I use one distribution of Linux to
partition,
> >I must
> >go on installing it. Even there is no option for format.
> >
> >Where can I find those information ?
>
> You're not meant to stop installing in the middle of the instalation
process,
> make the decision before you start weather you want to do the install or
not
> this will save you a lot of time. If you're not happy about the the
partitions
> you've created you can edit them within the install procedure, but what I
think
> would be even better is if you mede these types of decisions before you
start
> to install (as suggested in all documentation I've seen), I've seen other
people
> who post to this NG say that before an install they write all this
information
> down on paper and refer to their notes while going through the install
process,
> I'd say that this is good practice, you can then keep a paper record of
the
> configuration of your machine which will help if anything goes seriously
wrong
> and you need to rebuild, especially useful if you have more than one
machine and
> each is configured differently.
>
> >
> >Thank you for your time.
> >
>
> You're welcome, you'll find it's a very steep learning curve, so don't
expect
> to understand everything over night, I've been using linux for about six
> months now and feel that I'm still learning how to get my machine to work
> exactly the way I want it to, but it's well worth the time and effort.
>
> PS: you don't need to reboot every five minutes, or every time you make a
change
> to the system, see my signature, I've upgraded perl, installed gnapster,
> installed a webserver, fixed an underlying network setup problem all
without
> rebooting and I have access to all of these new/modified facilities.
>
> --
> Cheers
> Steve email mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> %HAV-A-NICEDAY Error not enough coffee 0 pps.
>
> web http://www.ndirect.co.uk/~sjlen/
>
> or http://start.at/zero-pps
>
> 3:35pm up 17 days, 17:36, 3 users, load average: 1.07, 1.03, 1.00
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dave Brown)
Subject: Re: bootable red hat CD
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 10 May 2000 17:22:32 -0500
In article <gxhS4.83324$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, michaelb wrote:
>I'm trying to make a bootable CD from the ISO for redhat 6.2. I copied the
>file to the CD but it didn't work. I am missing some step but don't know
>what.
>"Michael Hofmann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> Nicola Attico wrote:
>> >
>> > I've this installation CD of Red Hat 6.1, and I would
>> > like to make a bootable copy.
>>
The answer is:...
Use dd to copy the cdimage...
dd if=/dev/hdc of=cdimage
where /dev/hdc is the cd reader... yours may be different, depending
upon how attached. (And in some distros, a link /dev/cdrom may be
pointing to it).
then:
cdrecord -v dev=<whatever> speed=<whatever> cdimage
--
Dave Brown Austin, TX
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: NFS mount fails with "RPC: program not registered"; help!
Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 05:20:58 GMT
In article
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Michael Tsurikov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I have two Red Hat Linux systems. One (call it A) runs 5.2, and
I
> just upgraded the other one (call it B) from 4 to 6.2. Each of the
two
> systems exports a directory, via NFS, to the other. As soon as I
upgraded
> B to 6.2, A can no longer mount B's exported directory via NFS. When
I
> try "mount -t nfs ...", I get the error message "Mount: RPC: program
not
> registered". Computer B has no problem getting A's exported directory
via
> NFS, however.
>
> I've looked through all the FAQs and articles I could find on
> this, with not much luck. The best I could find is that it's
something
> with portmap and hosts.allow / deny, but I don't know just what to do
with
> them.
this is almost definitively NOT a problem of your hosts.whatever files,
and i guess not a portmap thing.
you might want to check that your nfs-server is running,
maybe with ps aux|grep rpc,
should have 2 processes , rpc.something and rpc.another
(i'm not at my linux machine now, its hard to remember for me :-))
you have the other machine, thats exporting properly,
compare the two.
do you know where to configure your system to start nfsserver at
boottime?
i'm not using rh, i can only guess its somewhere in linuxconf.
IF your nfs-server is up, and does not export properly,
i had a problem like that in my suse6.2version,
and i needed an upgrade for nfs-
something buggy or so....
so check rh page for any info on nfs-update.
--
'...' said the joker to the thief
'there's too much confusion, i cant get no relief...
so let us not talk falsely now, the hour's getting late'
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: add a second root-account
Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 05:23:12 GMT
In article <8ft2dp$q5f$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Alexander K <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> mostly it would give me a way to login with rootpowers instantly,
> without using a boot/root disk.
You can pass command lines to the kernel at the LILO prompt.
For instance, you could type:
linux init=/bin/sash
To spawn a root sash shell and fix whatever you need to fix.
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Before you buy.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: e-commerce solutions
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.mandrake,aus.computers.linux
Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 05:32:38 GMT
In aus.computers.linux damien morris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I was wondering if anyone knows of any cheap (hopefully free/open source)
> e-commerce solutions out there for Linux.. bascially to provide shopping
> basket functionality etc, much like the systems used by large online stores.
Take a look at http://www.lesbell.com.au/Home.nsf/e-commerce?OpenView
Under "Merchant Servers" you'll find a list of products that do what
you're after. The Linux ones are towards the end of the list.
Best
--- Les [http://www.lesbell.com.au]
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From: Neil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: not properly umounted at shutdown
Date: 16 May 2000 22:33:29 PST
I have Red Hat Linux 5.2 on my PC. When I type
shutdown now
I can shutdown it seems normally. But next time
I boot back up it always gives the
/dev/hda3 etc., etc. were not umounted properly
a fsck was forced. Then I have to wait for it to
churn through them.
Any advice on how to shutdown properly?
--
Neil
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From: Tux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,nf.comp.linux
Subject: Re: Help!!!..MAKING A NEWSGROUP LIST...!!!!
Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 02:53:57 -0230
Steve wrote:
> On Mon, 15 May 2000 06:06:02 -0230, Tux wrote:
> >Hey guys/gals,
> >
> >I'm using netscape communicator for an email/newsgroup browser and I was
> >wondering if there is some way that I can make a newsgroup list, much
> >like an email list, whereby I can type in the name of the list and the
> >message that I was composing wouldbe sent to multiple newsgroups (all
> >the newsgroups in my list)....!!!!! Does anyone know how to do
> >this...??? Thanks...
>
> Before you go doing stuff like that read some of the FAQs on how to use
> newsgroups and the netequette used in such forums.
>
I don't want to send thousands of emails to thousands of newsgroups... I
only want to send to "alt.os.linux", or "comp.os.linux.misc", and the local
newsgroup for my province "nf.comp.linux"... It would just be more
efficient if I could send to both at the same time instead of adding more
newsgroups to my destination field every time I send a message to
Usenet... So do you know of a way to do this...???
Thanks...
Trevor...
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dave Brown)
Subject: Re: vi - how to do case insensitive search?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 13 May 2000 15:20:29 -0500
In article <8fk99g$kts$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Brandon Warren wrote:
>How do you do a case insensitive search with vi?
Within vi, use:
:set ignorecase
--there may be an alias for this ("ic", maybe?). Or you could put in
your startup file, .exrc, without the preceding colon.
--
Dave Brown Austin, TX
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dave Brown)
Subject: netscape cache
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 13 May 2000 15:26:36 -0500
I'd been running short of disk space, and to quickly gain some
space, I decided to wipe out my netscape cache. In "Preferences",
I had the cache set at 5000K, and when I punched the "Clear Cache"
button, sure enough, I recovered 5 MB. Then, to my amazement, I
went to .netscape/cache, and found it full of stuff! A "du" command
showed that I 95 MB of cache! I did a "rm -r" in the cache
directory, and am now rattling around all the unused diskspace.
But, what's the deal? Why didn't netscape "clear the cache"?
--
Dave Brown Austin, TX
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dave Brown)
Subject: another netscape question... nameservice?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 13 May 2000 15:34:00 -0500
I'm running a caching nameserver on an old Slackware partition.
If I'm not connect to internet when I invoke netscape to read
a local document, I apparently insists on accessing home.netscape.com,
or whatever, and goes for nameservice. This, even though my startup
page is a blank, and I've set the Home Page in "Preferences" to
a local blank html document. Needless to say, it seems to take forever
to timeout the DNS request. If I kill the local caching nameserver,
netscape will almost immediately give a popup saying it can't find
those netscape addresses. (Which is also annoying). On RedHAT,
netscape seems to ignore the whole thing and put up RedHat's local
html doc.
How to get netscape to "not do a DNS" when it doesn't have to?
--
Dave Brown Austin, TX
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dave Brown)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.powerpc,alt.os.linux.mandrake
Subject: Re: WYSIWYG web page generator
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 14 May 2000 10:26:27 -0500
In article <65xT4.5633$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Patrick wrote:
>Linux people don't believe in WYSIWYG! They are a bunch of command line
>fools. I however like how Frontpage does that automatic navigation buttons
>but I really don't like Frontpage. Is there anything else that does they
>navigation stuff?
>
Are you really seeking information from "a bunch of command line fools"?
...or simply trolling...
--
Dave Brown Austin, TX
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dave Brown)
Subject: RH 6.1/6.2 Installer and ext2 fs
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 14 May 2000 13:36:25 -0500
I just installed RH 6.2 on a machine that already had a Slackware
(2.0.38 kernel) partition. Booting up the Slackware, I noticed
that the swap partition had been dorked up by the RH installer,
but also that I couldn't mount the RH-made partitions. The
error messages are "bad superblock, etc. Since this
would be an unworkable arrangement for me, I reformatting the RH
partitions (and remade the swap partition), and then re-installed
RH (choosing not to re-format). So now, everything's hunky-dory.
Except I'm curious... what has RH done to mke2fs or the way they
call it from their installer? As I recall, I had not run
into this prior to RH 6.1. (I noticed a similar problem a couple
of months ago trying to use toms-root-boot rescue diskette on a
RH 6.1 install, but I'd previously used it with RH 6.0.)
--
Dave Brown Austin, TX
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dave Brown)
Subject: Re: kudzu segmentation fault
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 15 May 2000 09:29:39 -0500
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, David .. wrote:
>
>To turn it off just give the command "setup" as root at a command prompt
>then choose "System services" and remove the asterisk next to the
>service you don't want to run at boot time. Then if or when you add
>hardware you can turn it back on to try and configure new stuff.
Does kudzu actually configure anything, or just detect new stuff
and tell you it's detected it?
--
Dave Brown Austin, TX
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dave Brown)
Subject: Re: Distribution "for" CD-urning w/ IDE?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 15 May 2000 13:49:26 -0500
In article <_HVT4.1350$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>One problem I have with mandrake is that each time I boot up, it detects
>the cdwriter (HP8100) but then tries to detect new hardware and tells me
>that it has been removed from the system. If I ignore this, everyhting
>seems to be OK, and the drive is detected correctly by cdrecord.
>- Richard Kimber
It's probably kudzu getting confused by seeing an IDE device, then finding
a "SCSI" device due to the emulation. It seems to me that kudzu is a
waste of time, and ought not be run at boot time. (You can remove it
with ntsysv.)
--
Dave Brown Austin, TX
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dave Brown)
Subject: Re: a display problem of linux system.
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 15 May 2000 16:54:20 -0500
In article <8fpj8u$hp4$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>I installed Linux system on my PC, everything works fine. but if I
>remote login to other machines(with local NFS), I could get X application
>running, i.e I could run vi,pine,rn, but not application with graphics
>,like gnuplot, netscape...
>similiarly, if I login to this linux machine from other machine, I could
>not run X application either.
>what's the problem? I had tried to change enviromental variables DISPLAY,
>but it still does not work?
Hmm, I wonder what error messages you're seeing. I'll bet that might
give us a clue...
Did you "export DISPLAY"? Did you enable access on your Xserver machine
for remote hosts? The error messages "can't open DISPLAY" or "access
denied" would indicate the problem.
--
Dave Brown Austin, TX
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthew Haley)
Subject: Re: Gnome DPMS
Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 05:52:31 GMT
On Tue, 16 May 2000 21:43:57 +0200,
Cyprien LAPLACE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>Section "Device"
> Identifier "MII 4Mo"
> Driver "mga"
> #VideoRam 4096
>VideoRam 4096
> # Insert Clocks lines here if appropriate
>EndSection
>
>that's what i have in my XFree 4.0 Config File
>is there i have to add the option power_saver ?
Yes, here's what my Device section looks like:
Section "Device"
Identifier "Primary Card"
VendorName "Trident Microsystems"
BoardName "Trident TGUI9685 (generic)"
ClockChip "tgui"
# Chipset "tgui9685"
VideoRam 4096
Option "tgui_pci_read_on"
Option "tgui_pci_write_on"
Option "pci_burst_on"
Option "accel"
Option "linear"
Option "power_saver" # Enable DPMS
EndSection
But, I am running XFree 3.3.6, and I don't know if things have changed in 4.0
--
Matt Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Now showing... Linux-Mandrake 7.02
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From: "David .." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: not properly umounted at shutdown
Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 00:40:40 -0500
Neil wrote:
>
> I have Red Hat Linux 5.2 on my PC. When I type
>
> shutdown now
>
> I can shutdown it seems normally. But next time
> I boot back up it always gives the
>
> /dev/hda3 etc., etc. were not umounted properly
> a fsck was forced. Then I have to wait for it to
> churn through them.
>
> Any advice on how to shutdown properly?
>
> --
>
> Neil
Try: shutdown -h now
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