Linux-Misc Digest #495, Volume #27               Sat, 31 Mar 01 17:13:02 EST

Contents:
  Re: setting up a printer? (Clive DaSilva)
  Backup eines  Verzeichnisses? ("G Berg")
  Re: system.map (Michael Heiming)
  Re: Support for LCD Monitors? (Juergen Heinzl)
  Re: Shell script questions... (Patrick TJ McPhee)
  Re: LINUX informational page ("blariz")
  Realplayer: no way for own bookmarks? (Peter Petersen)
  login message ("Jeffrey J. Bacon")
  after update, config tools and gnome don't work well... (Alex Chan)
  Re: login message (Phil Cowans)
  Re: Tips: Debian is very good (= (Michael Perry)
  Re: after update, config tools and gnome don't work well... (Michael Heiming)
  Downloaded RH7 image won't work...help ("Hiawatha Bray")

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From: Clive DaSilva <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: setting up a printer?
Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 15:09:18 -0500

Mike

There is a neat lil script called apsfilter (search for it at
freshmeat.net) which supports a LOT of printers, sets up the
/etc/printcap file, etc. I think that this script is so good that it
is being bundled with some distributions, Slackware which I use being
one of them

Good luck







Michael Roy Fox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>I have Linux release 2.4.2 and a Hewlett Packard Deskjet 842c printer.
>Can anyone give me step by step instructions as how to set up my
>printer?
>
>Thanks,
>Michael

 Clive DaSilva 
 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]



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From: "G Berg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Backup eines  Verzeichnisses?
Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 22:28:35 +0200

Hallo.

Wie mache ich ein einfaches Backup eines Verzeichnisses, um es danach per
FTp herunterladen zu k�nnen?
Es sollte aber so gut wie m�glich komprimiert sein.

Betriebssystem: Rh6.2

danke



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Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 22:32:49 +0200
From: Michael Heiming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: system.map

Dances With Crows wrote:
> 
> On Sat, 31 Mar 2001 09:59:13 -0800, Noah Roberts staggered into the
> Black Sun and said:
> >Michael Heiming wrote:
> >> green wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Question what do you do if you have multi versions of kernels ?
> >> > e.g. 2.2, 2.4, different configs etc.  System map can't match all.
> >>
> >> That's right,
> >> cp /usr/src/linux/System.map /boot/System.map-<kernel ver>
> >> and the kernel will know, wich one to use, or you get in
> >> /var/log/messages:
> >> Warning: /boot/System.map has an incorrect kernel version.
> >> But the System will run, as Peter T. Breuer posted to this thread.
> >
> >I have never gotten these errors and I changed from 2.2.16 to 2.4.2 and
> >did not use System.map.......  What exactly is system.map for?  I have
> >never seen the point in it or the /boot directory and I am a 6 year
> >linux user.  The only thing I can think of that NEEDS it is Grub.
> 
> Never seen the point of the /boot directory?  6 year Linux user?  Those
> two statements don't jibe very well!  In ancient days, LILO couldn't
> boot a kernel image that didn't reside below the 1024-cylinder limit,
> and the idea of the /boot partition was created as a workaround.  It
> also makes sense to have your kernel image and loading map in a
> separate, very small filesystem, preferably mounted RO, so there's less
> chance of random disk failures making booting impossible.
> 
> DOS doesn't need something similar because it always puts the first
> sector of IO.SYS on the first sector of the FAT filesystem on the first
> primary partition.  This is "simpler", but very inflexible.
> 
> As for the System.map, you've never had a kernel OOPS/panic?  ....wow.
> Anyway, if you do have a kernel panic or OOPS, System.map provides a way
> for the syslogd to produce a call stack composed of kernel function
> names instead of hex numbers.  This information can be invaluable to
> those who work with or debug bleeding-edge kernels.
> 
> In userland, lsof wants System.map for full functionality.  lsof can be
> very useful, and not just for debugging kernels.

Thx...for your info.

This URL has a comprehensive page about System.map:

http://landau.ucdavis.edu/psalzman/linux/systemmap.html

Michael Heiming

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Juergen Heinzl)
Crossposted-To: alt.uu.comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.hardware,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Support for LCD Monitors?
Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 20:42:02 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Robert Hardy wrote:
>Not knowing so much about Linux etc. I am wondering if I will have problems
>using a LCD monitor (precisely the Proview BM568 or the TAXAN Crystalvision
>680) - I am just putting together a system and will want to run some
>distribution of Linux (no preference as yet). Will I need drivers and such -
>since I know that they supply Win9* etc drivers with the product (not sure
>what they do), but they don't have any Linux drivers for download from their
>sites.
[-]
I've got such a beast, a Panasonic LC50S, actually and out of the box
VESA setting ought to be fine and all works quite nicely.

Never wanting a "normal" monitor again 8-)
Juergen

-- 
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Crossposted-To: comp.unix.shell,comp.lang.awk
Subject: Re: Shell script questions...
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Patrick TJ McPhee)
Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 20:53:28 GMT

In article <9a1igu$ge8$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, MEYER <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

% Thank for your help!
% I've tested:
% It give me all line with ERROR and Display, that's right! But my file is
% like:
% ...
% ERROR at line 1:
%   ORA-230:Table or view doesn't exist
% ...
% Display 'TS':
%   Display view not visible!
% ...

There's a way to do this with sed, but I'm a bit rusty. With awk ranges,
you could have

 awk '/^ERROR/,!/^ERROR/ ; /^Display/,!/^Display/' $1

which will print the range from the first line which starts with ERROR
to the first line which doesn't start with error (generally the next
line), and the same for lines starting with display. It doesn't
help for the situation where the error message spreads over several
lines.
--

Patrick TJ McPhee
East York  Canada
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: "blariz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: LINUX informational page
Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 13:58:03 -0700

What are your bandwith usage numbers?  Have you looked into any of the
web-based online hosting services?  Those offer everything you would need
for your site and are as low as $100 - $200 per year.  Also what is the cost
of your current webhosting, so we can get an idea of what is needed?
blariz

MerefBast <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>    Hi. Sorry to bother everyone, but I need help.
>
>    I am the author of an educational web site about
> operating systems < http://www.operatingsystems.net >.
> Although I don't provide a lot of depth on any one
> operating system (I'm still working on it), I do provide a
> fairly comprehensive overview and comparison of operating
> systems (particularly server operating systems).
>
>    High traffic has forced the site to move from several
> different ISPs. The current ISP can handle the traffic,
> but I can't afford their rates.
>
>    As a result, it is highly likely that the web site will
> close down on April 5th.
>
>    If anyone wants to save a copy of the web site to their
> disks before the shut down date, then they need to visit
> the web site before then. I currently have a set of three
> ZIP files of the site as of March 25th ready for download,
> and will be posting updated ZIP collections on March 31st
> and April 3rd.
>
>    Also, if anyone spots any technical errors or outdated
> information, please notify me immediately, so that I can
> make sure that the information is accurate on the last set
> of updates.
>
>    And if anyone can help fund the cost of hosting the web
> site, please let me know. I have already received pledges
> for contributions, but not yet enough to keep the web site
> around. Individuals can help by sending a check or money
> order to 1-host, 7595 Redwood Blvd, Ste 215, Novota, CA,
> 94947 (please clearly indicate on the check that the
> payment is for "OperatingSystems.net", as the ISP has
> thousands of accounts; also do not send cash). If there
> are any businesses that want to sponsor particular web
> pages (or the entire web site) in trade for a prominent
> message, a small icon, and a link, please let me know.
>
>    If you want to check out what is at the web site, you
> may want to try some of the following web pages:
>
> LINUX: http://www.operatingsystems.net/oses/linux.htm
>
> FILE SYSTEMS: http://www.operatingsystems.net/holistic/connect/filesys.htm
> HARDWARE SUPPORTED:
> http://www.operatingsystems.net/holistic/hardware/hardware.htm
> CHARACTER CODES:
http://www.operatingsystems.net/system/physical/charcode.htm
> ASSEMBLY LANGUAGE PROGRAMMING:
> http://www.operatingsystems.net/topic/language/asm.htm
> SECURITY: http://www.operatingsystems.net/holistic/security/security.htm
> BASICS OF COMPUTERS:
http://www.operatingsystems.net/system/physical/basics.htm
> COMPARISON OF OPERATING SYSTEMS:
> http://www.operatingsystems.net/kind/summary.htm
> KINDS OF OPERATING SYSTEMS: http://www.operatingsystems.net/kind/kinds.htm
>
>    I can be contacted at < [EMAIL PROTECTED] >.
>
>     Thanks....
>



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From: Peter Petersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Realplayer: no way for own bookmarks?
Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 23:01:46 +0200

Hello!

My subject says it all:
How to add one's own bookmarks??
I can't find anything which would allow for doing that in realplayer for
linux.

While Realplayer under windows had that since the beginning (at least
since the very early versions I knew), there is still nothing like that
under linux. What version is it now? version 8 or so, I just wonder...

Well, I know, one can write scripts to launch realplayer with some
specific URL, but still I would find it much more comfortable to just be
able to select my bookmarks from a menu *inside the running realplayer
and to add my own as well.

Any ideas? How do you manage your realplaye bookmarks?


Regards
Peter

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From: "Jeffrey J. Bacon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: login message
Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 21:13:54 GMT

How do I create/change the login message that is shown to each user upon
login.  I want to give status updates and news to each user.
-- 
Jeffrey Bacon  
Java Programmer Extrordinaire!
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://chat.carleton.ca/~jjbacon

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alex Chan)
Subject: after update, config tools and gnome don't work well...
Date: 31 Mar 2001 21:17:47 GMT

I update my mandrake 7.2 and gnome recently and now I encounter some 
problems....
After I update the packages I have found and downoaded. I found that most 
of the Mandrake configuration tools can't run. I can run only drakfont and 
harddrak.  Others would return one of/ both of the following error 
messages: (for example)
[root@chen alexfool]#DrakConf
Can't locate auto/Gtk/mod_init_ad.al in @INC (@INC contains: 
/usr/lib/perl5/5.6.0/i386-linux /usr/lib/perl5/5.6.0 
/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.0/i386-linux /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.0 
/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl .) at /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.0/i386-
linux/Gtk/Gdk/ImlibImage.pm line 33
Compilation failed in require at /usr/X11R6/bin/DrakConf.real line 50.
[root@chen alexfool]#
[root@chen alexfool]#MandrakeUpdate
MandrakeUpdate: error while loading shared libraries: /usr/lib/librpm.so.0: 
undefined symbol: fdio

what should i do?

Also I upgraded to XFree86 4.0.3. as far as i know, in LM7.2 both 3.3.6 and 
4.0.1 are coexist. How about now?  How can I know which XFree86 is running?  
I was told the 4.0.3 can render true type fonts without xfs.  If I want to 
use the fonts without xfs, what should I do? Is it so simple that replace 
the FontPath "unix/:-1" with the fontpaths? remove the line FontPath 
"unix/:-1" = not use xfs?

last question might not be about LM but gnome. after upgrading, some of the 
gnome application returns error message such as:
[alexfool@chen .pan]$ pan
pan-Message: Pan 0.9.6 Started
pan-Message: Article cache contains 0.0 megs in 0 files

Gdk-WARNING **: Missing charsets in FontSet creation

Gdk-WARNING **:     BIG5-0

Gdk-WARNING **: Missing charsets in FontSet creation

Gdk-WARNING **:     ISO8859-1

Gdk-WARNING **:     BIG5-0

pan-WARNING **: Couldn't load font "-mdk-helvetica-medium-r-normal-*-12-*-
*-*-p-                 *-tis620.2533-1"

gtkhtml-ERROR **: gconf error: Configuration server couldn't be contacted:
 Error contacting configuration server: OAF returned nil from 
oaf_activate_from_                 id() and did not set an exception 
explaining the problem. Please file an OAF bug                  report.

aborting...

yes, i use Chinese in my LM but it works very well before the update. and 
now it seems that the fontset and charset could not be loaded correctly, 
not even the ISO8859-1.  Does anyone has any ideas?

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Phil Cowans)
Subject: Re: login message
Date: 31 Mar 2001 21:32:59 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Jeffrey J. Bacon wrote:
>How do I create/change the login message that is shown to each user upon
>login.  I want to give status updates and news to each user.

/etc/issue and /etc/issue.net are printed before login
/etc/motd is printed afterwards

Note that these files may already be created from a script as part of your
boot process, so changing them may not have the expected effect.

Phil

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Perry)
Subject: Re: Tips: Debian is very good (=
Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 21:35:04 -0000

On Sat, 31 Mar 2001 19:20:01 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Perry) writes:
>> On Sat, 31 Mar 2001 13:43:08 GMT, John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >Michael Perry writes:
>> >> I have been religiously upgrading unstable to the bleeding edge and it
>> >> just plain works.
>> >
>> >Don't bet your servers on it.  Unstable is fine for workstations that can
>> >stand a little downtime, but we've had one libc screwup already this year.
>> >There is a reason it is called unstable.
>>
>> Definitely so.  I have a few servers not running unstable.
>> Nonetheless, debian unstable is fun to play with and it works with
>> the caveat of downtime possibly.  I have not seen any yet though and
>> have upgraded several systems to unstable over the past month or so.
>
>Things seem typically to stay pretty stable, even on "unstable," until
>a major new release of Perl comes out, and _some_ packages start
>getting updated to point to that new release of Perl.
>
>It tends to be at that point that things break down pretty badly, and
>that only for those packages that really depend on where Perl
>components are.
>
>There used to be some issues with GLIBC updates, but that seems to
>have stabilized impressively.  I have done a lot of GLIBC updates
>without noticing any behavioural changes.
>
>The only thing that I'm reluctant to upgrade at this point is LILO;
>the last time I did that, the system refused to reboot anymore.  
>
>I had to do a tiny Linux install on a spare partition, which installed
>an older version of LILO, and then reboot the main system, and there,
>downgrade LILO to the same older version in order to have "joy and
>happiness."  
>
>I'm idly thinking of moving to GRUB, but haven't seriously tried to do
>that yet...
>-- 
>(reverse (concatenate 'string "ac.notelrac.teneerf@" "454aa"))
>http://vip.hex.net/~cbbrowne/resume.html
>As far as the laws of mathematics refer to reality, they are not certain;
>and as far as they are certain, they do not refer to reality.
>-- Albert Einstein.

I noticed the recent glibc and gcc upgrades went pretty well all considered. 
Overall, as a perennial newbie at debian, the things I am impressed with now
with unstable are that X4.0.2 upgrades are getting good, glibc is much
better.  I'll reserve judgement on perl until I see one :) I must have
selective memory loss from my earlier adventures.

I have done the lilo upgrade to 21.7 I believe.  I don't boot the systems
too often so I don't recall what version is running here.  My laptop gets
booted a lot more often and it seems to be at 2.17.

I also have moved to testing from stable and I was overall satisfied.  But
this is fun now!  As Mr. Hasler points out, I would not take my servers up
there; but on the desktop with a system I can rebuild quite quickly thanks
to things like rsync, unstable is pretty darned cool.  All I can say about
unstable is: "whee! bring it on!" :-)

-- 
Michael Perry
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 23:36:23 +0200
From: Michael Heiming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: after update, config tools and gnome don't work well...

Alex Chan wrote:
> 
> I update my mandrake 7.2 and gnome recently and now I encounter some
> problems....
> After I update the packages I have found and downoaded. I found that most
> of the Mandrake configuration tools can't run. I can run only drakfont and
> harddrak.  Others would return one of/ both of the following error
> messages: (for example)
> [root@chen alexfool]#DrakConf
> Can't locate auto/Gtk/mod_init_ad.al in @INC (@INC contains:
> /usr/lib/perl5/5.6.0/i386-linux /usr/lib/perl5/5.6.0
> /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.0/i386-linux /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.0
> /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl .) at /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.0/i386-
> linux/Gtk/Gdk/ImlibImage.pm line 33
> Compilation failed in require at /usr/X11R6/bin/DrakConf.real line 50.
> [root@chen alexfool]#
> [root@chen alexfool]#MandrakeUpdate
> MandrakeUpdate: error while loading shared libraries: /usr/lib/librpm.so.0:
> undefined symbol: fdio
> 
> what should i do?
> 
> Also I upgraded to XFree86 4.0.3. as far as i know, in LM7.2 both 3.3.6 and
> 4.0.1 are coexist. How about now?  How can I know which XFree86 is running?
> I was told the 4.0.3 can render true type fonts without xfs.  If I want to
> use the fonts without xfs, what should I do? Is it so simple that replace
> the FontPath "unix/:-1" with the fontpaths? remove the line FontPath
> "unix/:-1" = not use xfs?
> 
> last question might not be about LM but gnome. after upgrading, some of the
> gnome application returns error message such as:
> [alexfool@chen .pan]$ pan
> pan-Message: Pan 0.9.6 Started
> pan-Message: Article cache contains 0.0 megs in 0 files
> 
> Gdk-WARNING **: Missing charsets in FontSet creation
> 
> Gdk-WARNING **:     BIG5-0
> 
> Gdk-WARNING **: Missing charsets in FontSet creation
> 
> Gdk-WARNING **:     ISO8859-1
> 
> Gdk-WARNING **:     BIG5-0
> 
> pan-WARNING **: Couldn't load font "-mdk-helvetica-medium-r-normal-*-12-*-
> *-*-p-                 *-tis620.2533-1"
> 
> gtkhtml-ERROR **: gconf error: Configuration server couldn't be contacted:
>  Error contacting configuration server: OAF returned nil from
> oaf_activate_from_                 id() and did not set an exception
> explaining the problem. Please file an OAF bug                  report.
> 
> aborting...
> 
> yes, i use Chinese in my LM but it works very well before the update. and
> now it seems that the fontset and charset could not be loaded correctly,
> not even the ISO8859-1.  Does anyone has any ideas?

Hello Chan,

since from what I read, you mucked up the system dreadfully
and don't really know on yourself what you've actually done, I would
really suggest starting from scratch, backup your data before.

Good luck

Michael Heiming

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From: "Hiawatha Bray" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Downloaded RH7 image won't work...help
Date: 31 Mar 2001 22:05:20 GMT

I burned the ISO images onto CDs using Easy CD Creator.  The separate files
all appear to be there.  But when I run the install program from a floppy
boot disk, and tell it to install from CD, everything just stops cold.  What
could I be doing wrong?  Thanks.







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