Linux-Misc Digest #495, Volume #21 Sun, 22 Aug 99 04:13:09 EDT
Contents:
Re: LILO for the Linux newbie. . . (Cameron L. Spitzer)
Re: HTML Apps: votes needed here! ("TF")
Anyone using Visual PPP 2.3 ??? ("shanks01")
Re: ICQ?? (James Bradley)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Cameron L. Spitzer)
Subject: Re: LILO for the Linux newbie. . .
Date: 22 Aug 1999 05:58:49 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Leonard Evens wrote:
>Josh Washburne wrote:
>> Linux will not boot unless we put in the boot disk.
>>
>> 1 = IDE Hard Drive ~1.2 gig
>> 2 = SCSI Hard Drives ~2.0 gig
>>
>> The 2 SCSI drives are connected to a Soundblaster 16 SCSI-2 card. The
>> IDE HD and one SCSI HD is used for Win95 (ick!). The other SCSI is for
>> Linux. The SB16 SCSI-2 board DOES NOT have a boot prom, so we found a
>> line we could enter into LILO to find the SCSI-2 controller and boot off
>> the second drive. This line was:
>>
>> aha152x=0x340,11,7,1,1
Hmm, if you typed that at the LILO boot prompt, LILO would think
you wanted to load a bootimage named "aha152x=0x340,11,7,1,1"
which is a very strange name for a bootimage.
More likely, you typed
imagename aha152x=0x340,11,7,1,1
where "imagename" is the name of your bootimage, probably "linux"
or vmlinuz or bzImage or something like that.
Then the image would be launched with an argument that tells it
how to find your aha152x card, what DMA and IRQ it's using, etc.
(SB16's SCSI emulates Adaptec? I didn't know that...)
>> Then, I
>> forgot to set up Win95 as the thing to boot up first instead of Linux.
>> (sorry...I'm only native to Win95 for now.) So we rebooted the machine
>> and when LILO printed on the screen, all of a sudden, all these "BB"s
>> were popping up on the screen
That means LILO is not installed properly.
The lilo installer only has second hand information about your
BIOS and drives. It does not always know when it is installing
a bad configuration.
>>and kept going and it wouldn't stop until
>> we used Ctrl-Alt-Del.
Yes, LILO is quite rude that way.
>> The only way to get into Linux is to use a boot
>> disk. Any suggestions to a Linux newbie??????
I suggest that you install LILO in two low risk steps instead of
doing it all at once the hard way.
Step 0: Make a kernel and make sure it works. If you need modules,
make sure they work. Don't use the kernel that came with Red Hat
or whatever, it is full of drivers you don't need that make it
take a long time to boot. That kernel is only for installing.
Step 1: Make a Super Lilo Floppy that can boot your whole system.
Put three options in its menu, Win-95, Linux-FD, Linux HD.
The Linux-FD option boots a kernel from the floppy.
The Linux-HD option boots another copy of the same kernel,
from a hard disk. You will find that option is so fast that
you may never need
Step 2: Put the same setup on your first hard disk.
Step 1 in more detail:
a. Format a fresh floppy and check it for bad sectors.
b. Make a file system on it of type ext2 (or minix or xiafs).
c. Mount the floppy on an empty directory /3
d. Copy your known good kernel bootimage file (bzImage)
into /3. Then copy /boot/boot.b and /boot/chain.b there.
e. Make a directory /lnxboot on your Win-95 C drive partition.
f. Copy bzImage to /lnxboot.
f. Create a file /3/lilo.conf as follows:
# Way Cool Lilo Floppy config file
#
# install LILO here
boot=/dev/fd0
#
# tell kernel to mount this as root
root=/dev/sda1
#
# install this boot loader
install=/3/boot.b
#
# create this map file
map=/3/map
#
# wait 2 seconds before doing anything
delay=20
#
# print a prompt
prompt
#
# after a minute give up on your input and boot the first image
timeout=600
#
# This is the bootimage on floppy
image=/3/bzImage
append="aha152x=0x340,11,7,1,1"
label=linuxfd
read=only
#
# This is the bootimage on hard drive
image=/dos/lnxboot/bzImage
append="aha152x=0x340,11,7,1,1"
label=linuxhd
read=only
#
# This is the Microsoft product
other=/dev/hda1
loader=/3/chain.b
label=Microsoft
#
# that is all.
g. Run this command: /sbin/lilo -C /3/lilo.conf
This will create a floppy that can boot Linux or MS-Win
from hard drive. The map file is small so it will boot
pretty fast.
Observations:
1. The bzImage files are where BIOS can see them. The Win-95 partition
must be mounted as /dos or change the ililo.conf file to match. Also, the
Win-95 partition must end before cylinder 1024 on the drive, unless you
have one of those EZ-Drive things.
2. The kernel does not have to be on the root partition. It
can be anyplace, as long as Linux can see it.
3. We are not messing with Microsoft's MBR at all. Leave that
till later when you know what you're doing. That's Step 2.
4. This was covered in the LILO mini-HOWTO years ago. Read the
documentation that comes with Linux. It's poorly indexed, but it's
all there.
Cameron
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From: "TF" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: HTML Apps: votes needed here!
Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 05:19:24 GMT
Jonathan Wilson wrote in message ...
>I'm new to Linux, and trying hard to leave Windows behind for good.
good for you man.
Also I like RPMs� I have a
>hard time with tars still.
tar -xvzf 'filename' this should work fine for you.
Red Hat is nice but check out slackware too...
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From: "shanks01" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Anyone using Visual PPP 2.3 ???
Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 22:57:53 -0700
I'm trying to get my Linux box onto the Internet, and after being thoroughly
frustrated by kppp (but it looks so easy!) I tried Daniels Roche's Visual
PPP v2.3. I got much closer to success there (at least it recognizes that I
do indeed have an accessible modem), but here's where it breaks down:
I enter all the session info (phone, script, DNS addys, etc) and punch the
connect button. Then for some reason it takes nearly 50 seconds before the
modem starts to dial out. vppp times the session out as being unsuccessful
before the dialog really gets established. I can find no place in the setup
to change the default timeout, nor can I figure out how to get the modem to
start dialling earlier in the process.
Any clues?
And for those interested parties: http://www.multimania.com/droche is where
to find vppp. It's in French, but the link to the Enlish version is easily
located. Give it a try.
Phil
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From: James Bradley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.mandrake,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: ICQ??
Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 02:59:13 -0400
Christopher Lu wrote:
> Can someone please recommend a good icq program for Linux? I'm running
> Mandrake 6 and need for the program to be able to interact with
> mirabillis/aol windows icq (see/talk to windows icq).
>
> Thanks in advance!
Check out <A HREF="http://www.portup.com/~gyandl/icq/">the Linux
ICQ Page</A> for a comprehensive listing of Linux ICQ clients.
James
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