Linux-Misc Digest #530, Volume #18 Sat, 9 Jan 99 07:13:06 EST
Contents:
Re: Consumer Poll Says Microsoft Is Good For Consumers (Johan Kullstam)
Re: [Q] Corel WordPerfect 8.0 ... Any experiences? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: what are hardlinks for? (Stephen E. Halpin)
LINUS Can Suck My Hairy Cock .. or Newbie Needs Linux Help ... ([email protected] (soume
yoeung guih))
Re: euro support in kernel 2.0 (Brian McCauley)
Re: Leafnode - few articles (Pietro Montelatici)
Re: Leafnode - few articles (Pietro Montelatici)
Re: Unlocking /dev/modem (Peter S. Frouman)
Re: Help : red hat root password (Vinay Avasthi)
MX record for secondary mail host ("Noel Sampol")
Re: Change Red Hat 5.x server name (Larry)
Re: Printcap settings? (Peter Bradley)
Re: Emacs Questions (James Youngman)
Re: CHAP 4 dummies (zentara)
Re: Help! I'm locked out! (Dirk Thomalla)
Re: Where is urw-fonts-1.1 (ghostscript 5.10)? (Bob Tennent)
Re: Is Microsoft a nasty company ? I'm asking you this question. ("Nunya Dadburn
Bidness")
Star Office Installation help needed ! ("goolias")
Re: Is Microsoft a nasty company ? I'm asking you this question. ("Nunya Dadburn
Bidness")
Re: Remove LILO (Brian McCauley)
Re: File permisions on vfat partitions (Brian McCauley)
Re: LINUS Can Suck My Hairy Cock .. or Newbie Needs Linux Help ... (Mark Forsyth)
File permisions on vfat partitions (Roger Berry)
Re: Linux drivers for IOMEGA zip drive (John Girash)
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Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Consumer Poll Says Microsoft Is Good For Consumers
From: Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 09 Jan 1999 05:44:20 -0500
"Poison Ivan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >>The US antitrust laws are designed to protect consumers, not competitors.
> >>Has the consumer been harmed? Of course not.
> >
> >Of course not???
> >
> >1) Consumers are overpaying for software, because their's no competition
> >allowing prices to be artificially high.
>
>
> In what sense are consumers overpaying for software? Most consumers get
> Win98 for about $90 (the retail upgrade price). If I remember right, OEMs
> pay about $70. Compared to most popular software, this is pretty darn cheap.
> Especially considering that an OS enables the user to run all his other
> software.
in the sense that all the cost of software to microsoft is in the
non-recurring initial costs. the OEMs bear the cost of installing
it. a cdrom cost about 5 cents to make. perhaps a dollar to ship in
quantity.
considering the high volume (and low quality) of the product, it *is*
expensive. the profit margin to microsoft is very high when you
compare it to other software.
> I think I would pay up to $500 for a PC desktop operating system that let me
> run all the software I wanted to run. I would be pretty pissed off to pay
> that much, but I would grudgingly do it. A $90 OS (like Win98) is a good
> deal.
>
> So I suspect Microsoft is keeping the price of Windows artificially *low*.
> The low prices are how Microsoft maintains its monopoly. Artificially low
> prices make for very happy consumers, but competing OS producers obviously
> hate it.
MS can keep prices high in profit per copy sense yet low in a
competition sense. no competitor can instantly grab 90% of the market
and be able to distribute their cost over all those sales.
--
Johan Kullstam [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Don't Fear the Penguin!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Q] Corel WordPerfect 8.0 ... Any experiences?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 19:10:51 GMT
Mike Werner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: Did a copy and paste - no problems. It's a funky looking string they're
: using - I've seen numerous problems with that registration listed here.
: Only fix seems to be keep trying. Maybe the phase of the moon in
: relation to Vega being in conjunction with Mercury, Chrysler, and
: Plymouth is a factor. ::shrug:: No idea.
I didn't have any trouble using the string after I got it, but
registering was painful - I had to boot Windows for it since
Netscape gave me errors on pressing submit, and Lynx doesn't
support secure pages. Anyway, after a few weeks I can only say
that I'm very satisfied. It works, it is capable and while it
is quirky, it isn't more so than wp 5.2 for Dos... And it was a
great tip to replace the default fonts with some real quality
type 1 fonts. I've even got the styles working like they should.
--
Boudewijn Rempt | www.xs4all.nl/~bsarempt
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stephen E. Halpin)
Subject: Re: what are hardlinks for?
Date: Sat, 09 Jan 1999 09:50:21 GMT
On 04 Jan 1999 16:39:43 -0500, Frank Sweetser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthias Warkus) writes:
>
>> It was the Mon, 04 Jan 1999 18:38:23 +0100...
>> ..and Thomas Schulzev-Velmede <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > Hi *,
>> >
>> > what are hardlinks for?
>> > Where do I NEED them?
Its unclear why multiple hardlinks are necessary, but as explained
numerous times in this thread, you need at least one hardlink to
get from a file name to the actual file. An older use of hardlinks
was for applications which could perform numerous related functions,
and the behavior would be based on the command used to invoke the
program by scanning argv[0]. This would save the space of having
multiple copies of the same application along with preseving inodes,
as once upon a time both were considered expensive. You could also
get a performance gain if the application was used often and could
be kept cached in memory, as you wouldnt have to keep loading and
unloading what was effectively the same program. You can look at
the source for gzip for an example of this..
>> I'm wondering myself.
>
>the short answer:
>
>a hard link is the directory entry that contains the data for filename ->
>inode mapping.
>
>the long answer:
>
>take a typical unix filesystem. to get a the contents of a file, you start
>off by opening up a filename, say foo. so, the open() function (or some
>variant thereof) passes this filename down to the filesystem code. the
>filesystem code opens up the appropriate directory, and searches each entry
>for the requested filename. if it doesn't find it, it returns an error,
>otherwise it continues on.
>
>now, that directory entry doesn't contain any of the actual information
>about the file. all it contains is the filename, and an inode number. an
>inode (Information NODE) contains all of the metadata about the file - it's
>size, permissions, timestamps, etc. when the open() call returns a
>filehandle, the filehandle refers indirectly to this inode, not to the
>filename. this directory entry that points to the inode is a hard link.
>
>this layering has some interesting useful effects. first off is that once
>you've got the open filehandle to the file, you don't need the filename or
>the directory entry anymore. so, you can open() a file, delete it, and
>keep on using it normally.
Of course this wonderful little coding practice has the potential
to get you into all kinds of trouble when using NFS mounted files,
as the serving system has no state to indicate the deleted file is
actually in use, and may delete the unlinked file out from under
your application.
> once no one has it open anymore, the inode will
>then be freed, and only then will the file actually be gone. also, you can
>have as many hardlinks pointing to an inode as you want.
>
>--
>Frank Sweetser rasmusin at wpi.edu fsweetser at blee.net | PGP key available
>paramount.ind.wpi.edu RedHat 5.2 kernel 2.2.0pre3 i586 | at public servers
>How do I type "for i in *.dvi do xdvi i done" in a GUI?
>(Discussion in comp.os.linux.misc on the intuitiveness of interfaces.)
-Steve
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From: PalmII@<remove>.com (soume yoeung guih)
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: LINUS Can Suck My Hairy Cock .. or Newbie Needs Linux Help ...
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1999 21:16:18 GMT
Reply-To: PalmII@<remove>.com
Linus is such a pansy mother fucker. He needs real balls like bill
gates. Linus says "Hey Im a gay boy and give my shit away." Bill says:
"I own you linus mother fucker." Linus is a fuckin retard. Who else
would make a fuckin OS with so many security holes. How many fuckers
hack NT to run thier little eggdrop bots. You are all script kiddies.
Who the fuck would let other people butt rape him for a kernel. Bill
gates owns you all. I think we need to start putting tatoos on all
these fuckin artic following homos heads.. And hopefully that tatoo
will have bill gates head with a windows 2000 logo. I could write a
better OS out of basic on a toaster. My on screen programming for my
VCR is better than the gui for linux. I hope linus gets nut cancer and
dies. Microsoft will soon buy linux so you all can get a real os. I
cant wait for microsoft brings msinux to rape all you linux fags.
Please do not flame me .. its only an opinion.
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From: Brian McCauley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.m68k,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.powerpc,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: euro support in kernel 2.0
Date: 09 Jan 1999 10:41:47 +0000
"Colin Ling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Does anyone know if there is a patch for the Euro support in kernel 2.0 and
> will it be supported in 2.2?
Why do you think there'd be a need for a kernel patch? Sounds like a
keymap patch and a console font patch to me.
Why do you think this is a networking issue?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Pietro Montelatici)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Leafnode - few articles
Date: Sat, 09 Jan 1999 08:41:08 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dale Pontius) wrote:
>> I've just installed Leafnode. I configured it with no limits set (no maxfetch,
>> no maxcrosspost, no maxage) apart for initialfetch = 100.
>>
>> I run fetch -f, everything fine. I run fetch -vv, ok. I run fetch -vv again
>> after 24h and it downloaded only few articles from all the subscribed groups.
>> Too few.
>>
>Have you used a newsreader to connect to fetchmail, and try to read
>some groups from it? By default, fetchmail doesn't fetch much - it's
>demand-driven. Before it'll start fetching groups, you have to
>demand them with a newsreader.
Yes sure, I subscribed to some groups and I have them in
/var/spool/news/interesting.groups/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Pietro Montelatici)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Leafnode - few articles
Date: Sat, 09 Jan 1999 08:41:48 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ("Bob Taylor") wrote:
>I'm running leafnode 1.5 here just fine. Why don't you remove the supplement
>and see what happens? BTW, I don't have a -f option.
The -f option is to retrieve the group list. I run 1.8.1
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter S. Frouman)
Subject: Re: Unlocking /dev/modem
Date: 8 Jan 1999 20:42:10 GMT
On Fri, 8 Jan 1999 19:16:59 -0800, Paul Davies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Is there a way to manually unlock /dev/modem when a lock is held on it?
I suppose you could remove the lock file which is probably in /var/lock
--
-Peter Frouman | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Zippy says:
Now, let's SEND OUT for QUICHE!!
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From: Vinay Avasthi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.setup,linux.redhat.install,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: Help : red hat root password
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1999 12:07:44 -0700
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The only way you can get to root if you have lost the root
password is to boot from some recovery disk and mount your
existing partition.
But be careful to change password in the correct /etc/shadow.
If you mount your disk as /mnt then you should change
/mnt/etc/shadow file. Changing /etc/shadow will not fix anything.
VA
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Billy Bob wrote:
>
> Hi,
> I changed the root password for the red hat 5.2 and now I can't get into
> root. I am able to edit /etc/password and remove the password string
> but when I boot the system it gets over written. What can I do to stop it
> from doing so. Any help would be highly appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Asim
>
> PS: Please e-mail replies to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "Noel Sampol" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: MX record for secondary mail host
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1999 21:59:01 +1100
Hi...
I have a scenario as follows:
Novell 4.11 with Groupwise 5.2 LAN connects to an ISP ( linux with bind
8(?) )thru modem (not permanent connection). Visiting Novell site, it is
advised that a secondary mail host needs to be setup at ISP end and the
Groupwise mail host needs to be primary mail host configured at ISP end. I
know how to configure the Novell end but I'm confused at the ISP end.
I did some research and found that I need to publish MX records at Linux end
for the above situation. Following is a copy of the zone file (?) for the
Novell LAN mentioned above:
; BIND version named 8.1.2-T3B Sun Aug 2 05:29:18 EST 1998
; BIND version [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/export/redhat/BUILD/src/bin/named
; zone 'hstevens.com.au' last serial 199801
; from 203.63.171.100 at Wed Sep 23 17:58:03 1998
$ORIGIN com.au.
hstevens IN SOA host1.hstevens.com.au.
hostmaster.host1.hstevens.com.au. ( 199802 10800 3600 3600000 86400 )
IN NS host1.bootstrap.net.au.
IN NS host2.bootstrap.net.au.
IN MX 10 host1.bootstrap.net.au.
IN MX 20 host2.bootstrap.net.au.
$ORIGIN hstevens.com.au.
gwtest IN A 203.63.171.95
mail IN CNAME host1.bootstrap.net.au.
localhost IN A 127.0.0.1
www IN CNAME host1.bootstrap.net.au.
host1 IN CNAME host1.bootstrap.net.au.
IN MX 10 host1.bootstrap.net.au.
host2 IN CNAME host2.bootstrap.net.au.
IN MX 20 host2.bootstrap.net.au.
ftp IN CNAME host2.bootstrap.net.au.
*** if the Novell mail host (Groupwise) is called gwia.hstevens.com.au, what
modification do I need for the above file? Do I need to modify any other
DNS related files? The www.hstevens.com.au is currently active on the
'Net - I can ping it.
I've looked at the DNS-HOWTO's but I'm still confused... ANY help is greatl
y appreciated.
I forgot to state that because the Novell LAN is not permanently connected
to the 'Net, mail cannot be sent to the LAN when it hasn't established a
modem connection - so a secondary (permanently connected) mail host will
send mail to the Novell LAN when the Novell LAN queries the secondary mail
host when the Novell LAN dials up to Internet ISP. This way, mail can be
sent addressed to Novell mail host when it is offline - Novell LAN will
retrieve mail when it connects via modem thru ISP.
If Novell LAN is already online, mail directed to it should go directly to
it rather than the secondary (linux) mail host - the secondary mail host is
always online, so if Novell LAN is offline, mail addressed to Novell LAN
should go to the backup (linux) mail host for later retrieval by Novell LAN.
Thanks
Noel Sampol
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
* Please remove '69' if replying directly via e-mail
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Larry)
Subject: Re: Change Red Hat 5.x server name
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 8 Jan 1999 21:28:48 GMT
On Fri, 08 Jan 1999 00:24:05 GMT, Gene Wilburn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>If you want to do this manually, edit the file /etc/sysconfig/network
>(even if you don't have a network card).
>
>Change the line that says HOSTNAME=xxx to HOSTNAME=yyy
>
>Next time you reboot, your host will be renamed. If I recall correctly,
>the file /etc/HOSTNAME is set dynamically. Editing that file will not
>permanently change the name.
>
>Gene
>
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>
>> When I boot Red Hat Linux 5.2, it starts up with:
>>
>> UNKNOWN_52 login:
>>
>> When I login as "root", my initial prompt reads:
>>
>> [root@UNKNOWN_52 /root]#
>>
>> Can someone tell me how to change the name of the server so it comes up:
>>
>> newname login:
>>
>> and following login as root, it reads:
>>
>> [root@newname /root]#
Go into /etc/HOSTNAME and change the host name in there.
It is NOT set dynamically.
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From: Peter Bradley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Printcap settings?
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1999 20:46:30 +0000
GC wrote:
> Hi,
>
> How do I set up a Canon BJC-210 printer under Linux. I've read that you have
> to configure the /etc/printcap file, but I don't know how. What driver do I
> need? How can I print from WordPerfect 8 for Linux? Do I just select the lp
> device? Right now when I select the lp device under WP8, all that the
> printer prints is a few lines of garbled text. I have to turn off the
> printer to stop the printing. But as soon as I turn it back on, it just
> continues printing garbled text non-stop.
>
> Any help is appreciated
>
> --
> Please post, no e-mail.
Hi,
This is not meant to be a brush off, but you might be best advised to read the
Linux printing HOW-TO. I can't remember the exact URL, but you can link from
linux.org or linux.org.uk (if that's easier). If you still have problems, or
don't understand, please feel free to post to me privately and I'll share what
little knowledge I have with you.
By the way, I don't claim to have any special knowledge here. Just trying to
help, having received a lot of help from this group myself.
Best Regards
Peter
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From: James Youngman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.emacs
Subject: Re: Emacs Questions
Date: 08 Jan 1999 20:57:56 +0000
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> I have some more Emacs questions that I am hoping you guys can answer:
>
> 1) How do you use the metakey in Microsoft Hyperterminal? Right now, it is
> "mapped" a the Alt key, but the alt key hits the menubar in Hyperterminal
> rather than sending it out to my Linux machine
You basically don't. Use a program with decent terminal emulation
(for example, the free TeraTerm program), rather than Hyperterminal.
> 2) How do you go into "replace" mode in
> Linux?
"Linux" doesn't have one. Emacs does, though. The Insert key on your
keyboard should toggle it. If not, your terminal emulator program is
not doing the right things. See above. If all else fails, you can
use M-x insert-mode.
> 3) I am using it in C++ mode. Is there an easy way to compile your
> code and run it in a sub-window without leaving Emacs?
M-x compile.
Use C-x ` (that is a back-tick) to step through the errors.
That's not a very convenient keystroke, though, so put something like
(global-set-key "\M-=" 'next-error)
into your .emacs file to bind it to Alt =.
You may also want to use global-set-key to bind another key to
'compile.
> 4) Emacs has certain "menus" within it called "Buffers Files Tools
> Edit Search C++ Help". How do I access menus?
Click on them with the mouse. If you're running on the console or a
pty via Hyperterminal [ugh!] (as opposed to using X), use F10.
--
ACTUALLY reachable as @free-lunch.demon.(whitehouse)co.uk:james+usenet
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (zentara)
Subject: Re: CHAP 4 dummies
Reply-To: ""
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1999 22:02:50 GMT
On Thu, 07 Jan 1999 19:24:49 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>Hi all,
>
>Is there any place where I can find how to configure CHAP (& a sample script
>for it) in simple language?
>
Do you mean to login to an ISP, or to accept chap logins from others?
If you want an easy way to login to an ISP, get WVDIAL.
It will write your pap-secrets and chap-secrets for you.
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From: Dirk Thomalla <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Help! I'm locked out!
Date: Sat, 09 Jan 1999 12:26:40 +0100
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> It appears my Slackware Linux 2.0.3 box has been hacked, as I no
> longer have
> access to the root and other accounts. Is there a way for me to regain
> control of my system?
Yes, I think you could do the following:
Build up a new small linux on another harddisk
(or a linux boot floppy disk),
boot with this,
mount you 'old' harddisk,
and edit the files /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow.
--
- Dirk
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From: r d t@q u c i s.q u e e n s u.c a (Bob Tennent)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: Where is urw-fonts-1.1 (ghostscript 5.10)?
Date: 8 Jan 1999 20:15:28 GMT
On 08 Jan 1999 12:55:16 -0500, David Guertin wrote:
>
>I've recently downloaded and installed the Ghostscript 5.10 RPM.
>It says that it requires the package urw-fonts >= 1.1. But the
>most recent RPM I can find at ftp.redhat.com or with rpmfind is
>urw-fonts-1.0. Searches on the Web turned up nothing.
>
>Where else might I find the urw-fonts-1.1 RPM or tar.gz file?
>
Find rpms at rufus.w3.org/linux/RPM
Bob T.
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From: "Nunya Dadburn Bidness" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,alt.conspiracy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.x,gnu.misc.discuss,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Is Microsoft a nasty company ? I'm asking you this question.
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1999 05:28:25 -0600
Matthieu Hattab wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>Hello to everyone who reads that post.
>
>I recently have a serious discussion with a friend about the Microsoft
>phenomena.
>I have been pretty much against Microsoft for years (I'm 26) and doubts
>begin to show up. Is really Microsoft a bad company. A lot of people
>tell a lot of thing about Microsoft unfair way of doing business.
>BUT HAS MICROSOFT EVER BEEN CONVINCTED OF ILLEGAL ACTIONS ?
>Maybe most of people are jealous because Microsoft is the most
>successful corporation in the world.
>I read lot of your posts, but most of them demonstrate a hostility but
>do not prove that microsoft acts illegally.
>
>I look forward to your comments.
>
>Matthieu Hattab
Does a one legged duck swim in circles?
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From: "goolias" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: jaring.pcbase
Subject: Star Office Installation help needed !
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1999 19:26:06 +0800
After d/l , I untar to a new dir.
Then from there there'e new dir /so5
Inside /so5 there are /office_50 , README /install_doc,
....( Forgot)
Well, I browse thru all subdir only find that /office_50 content
more useful files, and seem like it's the one to start with,
most important is that I saw few files with the name 'setup'
in there.
Well, there I go in that subdir, then I type setup,
funny though, RedHat configurator pop up ( I'm in
console mode ), seem like I'm invoking RedHat system configurator coz I saw
Xconfigurator included at the menu.
By the way, I'm using damn PcTel Winmodem.
I know I won't stand a single chance to get it detected in Linux.
Here comes the q, how am I register the star office 5.0
online, if I maneged to get it install later ?
I wasn't able to go further, coz I'm lost.
Anybody can offer some helps on this ?
Thanks in advance
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From: "Nunya Dadburn Bidness" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,alt.conspiracy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.x,gnu.misc.discuss,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Is Microsoft a nasty company ? I'm asking you this question.
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1999 05:30:18 -0600
John Edstrom wrote in message <758nve$20o$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>In article <758l12$k7u$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dillon Pyron) writes:
>> In article <74uur9$de8$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mr S A Penny) writes:
>>> In article <#MbvRwhJ#GA.222@upnetnews03>,
>>> "Joshua Schaeffer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> ^^^^^^^^^^^
>> Owned by MSN.
>>
>
>Runs on Solaris.
Ain't it a bitch?
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From: Brian McCauley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Remove LILO
Date: 09 Jan 1999 11:28:57 +0000
Vialli Wong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Can I still boot my window95 directly from harddisk after I remove the
> LILO from the master boot record (MBR)?
No absolutely not. You must restore the Win95 MBR using the LILO
uninstall or install a new Win95 MBR. For details see FAQ.
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From: Brian McCauley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: File permisions on vfat partitions
Date: 09 Jan 1999 11:30:54 +0000
Roger Berry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> The only problems I encounter are with Web pages that use CGI scripts
> that want to write to a vfat drive.
>
> 'chmod -v 777 file' even says it has changed the permissions to
> rwxrwxrwx but 'ls -l' proves it was lying. Am I missing something here
> or is there simply no way to mount none Linux file systems and make them
> writeable to all?
VFAT does not have Unix semantics so you can't chmod. "man mount" for
details of how to set filesystem-wide permissions of non-Unix
filesystems.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark Forsyth)
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: LINUS Can Suck My Hairy Cock .. or Newbie Needs Linux Help ...
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1999 12:17:26 +1059
On Fri, 08 Jan 1999 16:13:04 -0500, Matt Templeton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>PalmII@ .com (soume yoeung guih) wrote:
>
>>
>> Please do not flame me .. its only an opinion.
>
>He really is not worth the effort of a response. Let's just ignore him.
What 4 times ?.....:)
>
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From: Roger Berry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: File permisions on vfat partitions
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 21:45:45 +0000
Hi,
I have a dual boot system running SuSE 5.2 and Win95 starting with LILO.
My vfat partitions are mounted by fstab with lines like:
'/dev/hda1 /c vfat defaults 1 1',
which means that for most purposes they're available to both OSs.
The only problems I encounter are with Web pages that use CGI scripts
that want to write to a vfat drive.
'chmod -v 777 file' even says it has changed the permissions to
rwxrwxrwx but 'ls -l' proves it was lying. Am I missing something here
or is there simply no way to mount none Linux file systems and make them
writeable to all?
--
Roger Berry
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From: John Girash <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Linux drivers for IOMEGA zip drive
Date: 8 Jan 1999 20:23:27 GMT
In comp.os.linux.misc Stephen Richard FREELAND <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: In comp.os.linux.misc J�rgen Exner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: :> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark O Thomas) wrote:
: :>> Where can I find drivers for the Zip and Jaz drives?
: : You don't need any. It's just another drive and all drivers you
: : need are the standard drivers as for any other HD.
: Um, wrong.
: Could be your kernel already has the right driver in there, but it
: is *definitely* not your run-of-the-mill IDE hard drive code.
Depends on the model. I've got a non-ATAPI IDE zip that does just use ide.c .
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