Linux-Misc Digest #534, Volume #18                Sat, 9 Jan 99 15:13:10 EST

Contents:
  watch the traffic ?? ("T.Lauter")
  Re: Help! I'm locked out!
  Re: NOSPAM in addresses.. (Michael Powe)
  Re: NOSPAM in addresses.. (Michael Powe)
  Re: Consumer Poll Says Microsoft Is Good For Consumers (Johan Kullstam)
  patition error (BoYz)
  Re: Consumer Poll Says Microsoft Is Good For Consumers (Johan Kullstam)
  Re: Defrag utility for NT before running fips ("eprom")
  Re: Defrag utility for NT before running fips ("eprom")
  Currupted filesystem: Causes? (Michael Riffle)
  patition problem (BoYz)
  Logging in terminals automatically (Ross Vandegrift)
  Sorry for 4 postings of same message (Matt Templeton)
  Re: Linux: Fight for survival or on victory march? (Todd Knarr)
  Re: suid root (Adrian Hands)
  Re: Help! I'm locked out! (Ross Vandegrift)
  Re: Consumer Poll Says Microsoft Is Good For Consumers (Richard Robinson)
  Re: Connection refused from remote X-Windows (David Steuber)
  Re: Linux and OCR software (Jost Boekemeier)
  Re: engineering practices in Linux/OSS (Sorce Simo)
  Re: endless :( please help (Adrian Hands)
  Re: NOSPAM in addresses.. (Michael Powe)
  RealAudio fetcher? (oak)
  Re: Linux: Fight for survival or on victory march? (Loren Petrich)
  Re: Consumer Poll Says Microsoft Is Good For Consumers (Louis B. Moore)

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From: "T.Lauter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: watch the traffic ??
Date: Sat, 09 Jan 1999 19:44:33 +0100

How can the entire traffic of a linux-webserver be recorded?

That should happen for each single user.

It leisures also accesses of outsides is considered.

Each access over HTTP, FTP, POP, SMTP should become grasp. (in and out)


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Subject: Re: Help! I'm locked out!
Date: 9 Jan 1999 17:12:02 GMT

On Sat, 09 Jan 1999 09:36:06 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>It appears my Slackware Linux 2.0.3 box has been hacked, as I no longer have
>access to the root and other accounts. Is there a way for me to regain
>control of my system?  I've taken it offline for the time being until I can
>resolve this issue.

You can use lilo in order to get a root-shell.
If you type init=/bin/sh, *
lilo will not start the init process (father of all processes)
but the bourne shell with uid 0.
Then you have to fireup your bootscripts manually.( they will mount
your partitions read/write etc.)
Now you can delete the root-password in your /etc/passwd (/etc/shaddow)
and choose your own with passwd (yppasswd).
Voila you have gained root-access.
Make your system secure.
If you does not use lilo, get one... 
Julius

====================
*Example
Lilo
(press tab)
Linux      oldlinux    windows  whatever
(type Linux in order to boot linux.)
(type 'Linux init=/bin/sh' in order to boot linux with bourne-shell
as init-process...)




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From: Michael Powe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: NOSPAM in addresses..
Date: 08 Jan 1999 22:18:29 -0800

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>>>>> "Jeff" == Jeff Holloway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

    Jeff> Your belief that all mail servers are configured to require
    Jeff> a correct return address is groundless. Most of the spam not
    Jeff> generated by 'throwaway accounts' is sent through mail
    Jeff> servers that have not been configured properly.

No, not all servers are correctly configured.  But the trend is toward
an increasing number that are -- largely because of the work of people
who are <really> fighting spam.

mp

8<---------------how-easy-is-it-to-demunge-an-address?------------------->8
#! /usr/bin/perl # if you are [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Another Luser):
while ($line = <>){ if ($line =~ m/^\s*$/ ){ last; }
if ($line =~ m/^From: (\S+) \(([^()]*)\)/){ $from_address = $1; } }
if ($from_address =~ m/\S+NOSPAM\S+/){ $x = index($from_address, NOSPAM);
substr($from_address, $x, 6+1) = ""; printf("The real address is %s\n",
$from_address);}else { printf("No munge, just plain %s\n",$from_address);}
printf("\nBrought to you by the Truth In Mail Headers Foundation\n");
8<-----------------------here's-one-example------------------------------>8

- --
                             Michael Powe
            [EMAIL PROTECTED]   http://www.trollope.org
                         Portland, Oregon USA

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From: Michael Powe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: NOSPAM in addresses..
Date: 08 Jan 1999 22:13:08 -0800

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>>>>> "William" == William Burrow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

    William> On 9 Jan 1999 02:06:50 GMT, Wisquatuk
    William> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

    William> Well, another idea that occurs to me is this.  The ISP
    William> provides users with two email IDs.  One for general email
    William> use, the second for use with USENET messages as a valid
    William> reply address.  The client software is somehow smart
    William> enough to know that one of the email address is
    William> exclusively for replies from USENET.

You already can do this with `plus' addressing.  See my address above?
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- if I have a need, I can sort on that
plus.  Plus addressing is legal and effective, providing you're
willing to do the work necessary to sort.

mp

8<---------------how-easy-is-it-to-demunge-an-address?------------------->8
#! /usr/bin/perl # if you are [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Another Luser):
while ($line = <>){ if ($line =~ m/^\s*$/ ){ last; }
if ($line =~ m/^From: (\S+) \(([^()]*)\)/){ $from_address = $1; } }
if ($from_address =~ m/\S+NOSPAM\S+/){ $x = index($from_address, NOSPAM);
substr($from_address, $x, 6+1) = ""; printf("The real address is %s\n",
$from_address);}else { printf("No munge, just plain %s\n",$from_address);}
printf("\nBrought to you by the Truth In Mail Headers Foundation\n");
8<-----------------------here's-one-example------------------------------>8

- --
                             Michael Powe
            [EMAIL PROTECTED]   http://www.trollope.org
                         Portland, Oregon USA

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Crossposted-To: 
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Consumer Poll Says Microsoft Is Good For Consumers
From: Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 09 Jan 1999 14:09:56 -0500

mlw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Johan Kullstam wrote:
> > 
> > Robin Becker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > 
> > > It's unwise of Americans to talk about genocide. Europeans carried out
> > > genocide in the New World long before Adolf.
> > 
> > why is it unwise?  the americans largely suceeded!
> 
> And does that make you feel good? Genocide is horrible no matter who has
> done it, and I think one would be hard pressed to find a government that
> hasn't attempted some form of it.
> 
> U.S.A.   yup  native americans,

the japanese were locked up, yes.  while that is certainly wrong and a
rotten treatment, they were not killed wholesale.  which, i am sure
you'll agree is a far worse crime.

the native americans were effectively wiped out.  that has to hurt a
lot more.

> Canada:        yup    native americans
> Germany: yup  jews
> Mexico:  yup  native americans
> England: yup  irish
> Turky:   yup  armenians
> USSR:    yup  georgans, (Stallin, everyone)

stalin was an equal oportunity genocider!

> Japan:         yup    koreans, chinese

sweden used to beat up on the sami (lapps) and suomi (finns).  (i am a
swede btw.)

> lets not even mention some African countries.
> 
> And this is just in the last hundred or so years. Makes me sick just
> thinking of the horrors involved.

oh yeah.  it's awful.  and unfortunately, not terribly uncommon.
almost everyone seems to beat up on others at some time.

-- 
Johan Kullstam [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Don't Fear the Penguin!


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (BoYz)
Subject: patition error
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1999 02:06:56 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hi,
I have a problem with my HD after installing Redhat 5.0 and Win98
I use Disk Druid that come with my Redhat 5.0 to create ext2 file system. 
I select install LILO in the MBR of primary drive. Everything seem to be 
OK. After I reboot, I can reach the screen LILO: and can choose which OS 
I want to boot. When I choose Win98 and try to use partition magic. It 
said "  Logical Drive chain extends toward start of drive " I just really 
don't know what does it mean. right now, I can't use my partition magic 
or even my fdisk to change my partition anymore.

Any suggestion would be appriciate or can anyone suggest any document so 
I can learn more about it.

Please reply by email.

Thanks 

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Crossposted-To: 
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Consumer Poll Says Microsoft Is Good For Consumers
From: Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 09 Jan 1999 14:14:08 -0500

"Poison Ivan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Robert Barnes wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> >Poison Ivan wrote:
> >>
> >All version of M$-DOS went for around $39 (which was "state of the
> >art" at that time).  Heck, even WinNT 3.50 only cost $45.  So why
> >does Win95/Win98 (which are still based on the old DOS code base,
> >and thus only upgrades of the original DOS) cost 2 to 3 times as much
> >as DOS did?
> 
> 
> I've read this post about 10 times, and I still don't understand your
> question. Are you saying Win98 and MS-DOS 1.0 are the same thing and
> therefore should be priced the same?
> 
> Um, OK ...

well, PIIs are going for about $2k and 4MHz 8088 were also going for
$2k back in the early eighties.  are they the same thing and should
they be priced the same?

> Win98 enables far more application software than DOS ever did. The software
> Windows enables is cooler, too. Windows games are more fun. Windows business
> software has more features. Windows software is easier to use.
> 
> To put it another way, DOS was boring, and very few people bought DOS
> machines. Windows is fun, and lots of people buy Windows machines. To the
> average consumer, Windows is far more valuable than DOS.

a hell of a lot of people bought DOS machines.  i remember when the
MS-DOS crowd looked down on the MAC people because we could program
the computer in pascal and C and MAC was difficult to code for.  there
was a proliferation of sharewares for DOS.  now, windows is just as
horrible to program as mac ever was.  notice the hacker community
abandoning windows in droves and using linux.

> Honestly, I don't see what the price of MS-DOS in 1988 has to do with the
> value consumers receive from Win98. This seems uncontroversial and
> self-evident to me, so I suspect I'm not understanding your point.

it has none.  i derive no value from win98 since i do not use it.  yet
vendors seem to go out of their way to foist it upon me when i buy a
computer.

-- 
Johan Kullstam [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Don't Fear the Penguin!

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From: "eprom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Defrag utility for NT before running fips
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1999 04:48:51 GMT

doh! i think i said "deskkeeper lite" I meant "DISKkeeper lite"
a trial version is at http://www.execsoft.com/

John Forkosh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in article
<7760e8$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> I recently got a machine with NT 4.0 installed by the
> vendor, but occupying the entire drive.  I'd like to
> keep it around.  But it came without any defrag utility,
> and I couldn't locate one on yahoo/alta-vista/etc.
>      I suppose there can't be too much fragmentation
> since no one really used it.  But I'd like to defrag
> it before running fips against it.  Is there a
> convenient (free) downloadbale defrag utility?
> Thanks,
> John ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
> 

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From: "eprom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Defrag utility for NT before running fips
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1999 04:44:56 GMT

hmm...try looking for desk keeper lite..its free I think..try
http://www.winfiles.com
hmm..im nit sure FIPS would be the right utility since NT is hogging the
entire drive
you might hafta get a product called partition magic


John Forkosh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in article
<7760e8$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> I recently got a machine with NT 4.0 installed by the
> vendor, but occupying the entire drive.  I'd like to
> keep it around.  But it came without any defrag utility,
> and I couldn't locate one on yahoo/alta-vista/etc.
>      I suppose there can't be too much fragmentation
> since no one really used it.  But I'd like to defrag
> it before running fips against it.  Is there a
> convenient (free) downloadbale defrag utility?
> Thanks,
> John ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
> 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Riffle)
Subject: Currupted filesystem: Causes?
Date: Sat, 09 Jan 1999 19:24:58 GMT

Yo,

I just had to repair a corrupted filesystem on my server using fsck,
no big deal.  Just a pain in the arse having to go down to the co-lo
center and type in the root password and answer yes to everything.

So, what causes the filesystem to be corrupted anyway?  Poorly written
programs?  Leaving the server up too long?  I'm not really sure how to
prevent this from happening in the future and what even caused it in
the first place.  Any englightenment would help.

Also, is there a config file I can change to have it not require root
password and just answer y to all of the questions on boot if the
filesystem is corrupt?

m


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (BoYz)
Subject: patition problem
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1999 02:06:25 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hi,
I have a problem with my HD after installing Redhat 5.0 and Win98
I use Disk Druid that come with my Redhat 5.0 to create ext2 file system. 
I select install LILO in the MBR of primary drive. Everything seem to be 
OK. After I reboot, I can reach the screen LILO: and can choose which OS 
I want to boot. When I choose Win98 and try to use partition magic. It 
said "  Logical Drive chain extends toward start of drive " I just really 
don't know what does it mean. right now, I can't use my partition magic 
or even my fdisk to change my partition anymore.

Any suggestion would be appriciate or can anyone suggest any document so 
I can learn more about it.

Please reply by email.

Thanks 


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From: Ross Vandegrift <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Logging in terminals automatically
Date: Sat, 09 Jan 1999 13:45:28 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Let's say that I want tty9 to login automatically and run "top s".  I
could make a "top" account that had "top s" as it's login.  That's cool,
but can I have init log it into tty9 every time I started up?

--
Ross Vandegrift | Eric J. Fenderson

alt.binaries.punk: for those of us too
        punk to pay money for the music.

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From: Matt Templeton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Sorry for 4 postings of same message
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1999 19:58:59 -0500

Sorry, I don't know why my last message posted 4 times. I only sent it once,
HONEST!!!


Groveling for forgiveness...
Matt


Remove the XoutX in my email address to respond.


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From: Todd Knarr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux: Fight for survival or on victory march?
Date: 9 Jan 1999 19:31:33 GMT

In comp.os.linux.misc Loren Petrich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>    ObLinux: How does one deal with ISA, IRQ's and DMA's in Linux? Is there
> some configuration file that specifies which interrupt is associated with
> which device? I'd imagine that this file would be plain old text.

Generally, one doesn't. The drivers for the most part autoprobe and
find the correct IRQs and DMA channels and allocate them for themselves.
Later drivers then ignore already-spoken-for items. If two drivers
do try to grab the same IRQ or DMA channel, one loses and reports in
the log what it failed to get and who already has it. You then go to
the card, set it to use a non-conflicting item ( via jumpers, or via
isapnp for ISA PnP cards ) and add the appropriate arguments to the
driver to tell it explicitly what I/O ports, IRQ and DMA to use. These
can be on the insmod line, or in /etc/conf.modules ( or /etc/modules.conf )
if you are modprobing modules or letting kerneld autoload them.

To look at what's allocated, cat out /proc/interrupts, /proc/dma and
/proc/iports. Note that these are not neccesarily all-inclusive, because
the kernel often ignores not-currently-active items ( eg. DMA channel 2
for the floppies is rarely seen unless you've just done some I/O to a
floppy ).

-- 
We won, didn't we? Cope!
                                -- Mimi, Reality Check #8

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From: Adrian Hands <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: suid root
Date: Sat, 09 Jan 1999 13:59:13 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Rob wrote:
> 
> Hello
> 
> Im having trouble finding out how to set an executable file to su to
> root when run.  For example, I want my ppp dialing scripts to run as
> root so a normal user can execute them.
> 
> Can anyone help?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Rob ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

You can't set a shell script to suid root.
Well, you can, but it won't work.
Only a binary executable can be setuid root.

Depending on your distribution and version,
/usr/sbin/usernetctl should be setuid root.
The script /sbin/ifup should call usernetctl.
Non-root users should be able to bring ppp up by typing:

$ ifup ppp0

The dist. I'm using seems to have a problem in that if I type "ifup
ppp0" when the interface is already up, it begins looping logging errors
to /var/log/messages.
When this happens I just su to root and "killall ifup-ppp".

What dist. are you using ?

-Adrian

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From: Ross Vandegrift <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Help! I'm locked out!
Date: Sat, 09 Jan 1999 13:41:51 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> It appears my Slackware Linux 2.0.3 box has been hacked, as I no longer have
> access to the root and other accounts.  

Hmmm... it would appear that you box was *cracked*, not hacked.

> Is there a way for me to regain
> control of my system?  I've taken it offline for the time being until I can
> resolve this issue.

Why not put it on a LAN, and try to crack into it?  That way, you could
definately find where the security issue is, and you could regain
control of the box.  If you can't get in, boot lilo with the option
`single` to boot into single user mode.

--
Ross Vandegrift | Eric J. Fenderson

alt.binaries.punk: for those of us too
        punk to pay money for the music.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Robinson)
Crossposted-To: 
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Consumer Poll Says Microsoft Is Good For Consumers
Date: 9 Jan 1999 19:25:58 -0000

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
David Steuber  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Victor Danilchenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>->     I think it is time to burn a few more bridges, to reduce troll
>-> population. Napalm, anyone?..
>
>Everyone is entitled to their opinions.  Why they think I should be
>entitled to their opinions as well is beyond me.

It's beyond me why this stuff can't be kept in the advocacy groups, if it
comes to that. Why is it being crossposted to uk.comp.os.linux ?

-- 
Richard Robinson
"The whole plan hinged upon the natural curiosity of potatoes" - S. Lem

I don't want to receive UCE :- remove 'x' to reply.

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From: David Steuber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Connection refused from remote X-Windows
Date: 07 Jan 1999 22:06:59 -0500

"Jim Orfanakos" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

-> I am using X-Win32 on a Win95 PC trying to connect to a RedHat 5.1 system.
-> Whenever I try to start an X application I get connection refused after I
-> enter my userid and password.  I tried  rsh  as well as  rexec.

I use XWin32 on NT at work to connect to Solaris Sparc machines.  I
don't have access to the .ini file from home, but if you want, you can 
mail me at work, and maybe I can help.

My work e-mail address is dsteuber at moneynet dot com.

-- 
David Steuber
http://www.david-steuber.com
s/trashcan/david/ to reply by mail

"Hackers penetrate and ravage delicate, private, and publicly owned
computer systems, infecting them with viruses and stealing materials
for their own ends.  These people, they're, they're  terrorists."

-- Secret Service Agent Richard Gill

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From: Jost Boekemeier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux and OCR software
Date: 09 Jan 1999 19:54:48 +0100


->  www.vividata.com
->  www.mentalix.com


jost
-- 

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From: Sorce Simo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: engineering practices in Linux/OSS
Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1999 13:03:44 +0100

big security nightmare wrote:

> How can you improve something like a word processor with changing the file
> format. According to your logic we should all still be using a.out format.
> Aren't most linux junkies caught up in a perpetual upgrade cycle, where they
> never actually get to use their computers to do anything, because a new
> patch or upgrade becomes available every few hours.
>
> What do you think??

Have you ever heard of extensible formats?
With this kind of structure the base format file is always the same and only if
use this phantomathic advanced features you wil perhaps not able to see only
the part the old software cannot interpret !!!
I think this is the correct way not to deceive the users!



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From: Adrian Hands <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: endless :( please help
Date: Sat, 09 Jan 1999 14:41:32 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

XtamorZ wrote:
> 

> redhat : comes with gpm version 12 wich does not support ms3 or pnp

I believe RH5.1 and 5.2 come with libc.so.6 and gpm-1.13
You must be working with RH 4.1 or 4.2 ?

> then i installed redhat again and tryied imwheel but it needs libc.so.6
> then iv'e d/l libc.so.6 (2.9MB) but what kind of file is this , or is
> supposed to be
> iv'e d/l it twice but no use and how do it tell imwheel i have it ?

libc.so.6 is glibc.

This is the "Standard C library".
The .so means it's "dynamically linked" that is, when you run a program
that needs this library it loads the library at runtime rather than it
being statically linked in to the executable at compile time.  This
allows the executables to be smaller (because they don't have to each
contain the code) and the memory requirements to be smaller because
processes can share a single in-memory version of the code (text portion
anyway).  Also, because the executable is smaller, it loads faster (or
you could look at it as part of the executable is already loaded).

su to root, put lib.so.6 in /lib/ and then run ldconfig.

Or, probably beter, use rpm or glint to install glibc-2.0.7-17.src.rpm

-Adrian

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From: Michael Powe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: NOSPAM in addresses..
Date: 02 Jan 1999 23:07:13 -0800

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Hash: SHA1

>>>>> "Alexander" == Alexander Viro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

    Alexander> You see, there are two layers in this shit-cake. There
    Alexander> are lusers who buy the scumware and Lose Accounts Fast
    Alexander> (tm) and there are shit-peddlers, knowing pretty well
    Alexander> what they are doing and bilking aforementioned lusers.
    Alexander> Former need to be pitied for their terminal
    Alexander> cluelessness and shot.  Shit-peddlers... well, they
    Alexander> shouldn't get out *that* easy. At least it should be
    Alexander> slow and painful. Details may vary according to your
    Alexander> tastes.

If I were President
Of this here land,
I'd declare total war
On the spammer man.

I'd cut 'im if stands,
And I'd shoot 'im if he runs,
I'd kill 'im with my Bible,
My Razor and my Gun.
Goddamn the spammer man!

(with apologies to the original!  ;-)

mp

8<---------------how-easy-is-it-to-demunge-an-address?------------------->8
#! /usr/bin/perl # if you are [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Another Luser):
while ($line = <>){ if ($line =~ m/^\s*$/ ){ last; }
if ($line =~ m/^From: (\S+) \(([^()]*)\)/){ $from_address = $1; } }
if ($from_address =~ m/\S+NOSPAM\S+/){ $x = index($from_address, NOSPAM);
substr($from_address, $x, 6+1) = ""; printf("The real address is %s\n",
$from_address);}else { printf("No munge, just plain %s\n",$from_address);}
printf("\nBrought to you by the Truth In Mail Headers Foundation\n");
8<-----------------------here's-one-example------------------------------>8

- -- 
                             Michael Powe
            [EMAIL PROTECTED]   http://www.trollope.org
                         Portland, Oregon USA

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From: oak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RealAudio fetcher?
Date: Sat, 09 Jan 1999 19:52:53 GMT

I saw a utility one time that would grab a realaudio broadcast and save it
to a file. The nice thing about it is it would keep at the retrieval until
the entire broadcast was fetched. Anyone know where I can find this
utility or what it's called?

Thanks,

-Tony



========================================================
 Abbreviate - af 2 millenia, a btr wy t rd n wri.
         http://www.eskimo.com/~oak/abr/


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Loren Petrich)
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux: Fight for survival or on victory march?
Date: Sat, 09 Jan 1999 19:17:48 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(jedi) wrote:
> On Thu, 07 Jan 1999 04:52:52 GMT, Loren Petrich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >In article <76u4l4$hso$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Mosl Roland"
> ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> >> The trick is, that Windows marketing makes the people believe,
> >> that they can do everything very simple by clicking around.

> >   This is the old Macintosh stereotype!!!
>         The mac never had ISA to deal with.

   True, but look at what all the DOS-heads had said about the Macintosh
-- that it was a toy and not a Real Computer because it was all
point-and-click.

   ObLinux: How does one deal with ISA, IRQ's and DMA's in Linux? Is there
some configuration file that specifies which interrupt is associated with
which device? I'd imagine that this file would be plain old text.

-- 
Loren Petrich
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Happiness is a fast Macintosh
And a fast train

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Louis B. Moore)
Crossposted-To: 
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Consumer Poll Says Microsoft Is Good For Consumers
Date: 09 Jan 1999 12:25:37 -0700

"Netnerd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> >
> >The only fact we have is that someone posted that a consumer poll said
> >that 81% of consumers thought that Microsoft was good for the market,
> >or something.  That poster neglected to site the specific poll in
> >question, so we don't even know if such a poll took place.
> 
> Would you believe the publisher was the Consumer Federation of America?

Say netnerd have you read:

http://www.stateandlocal.org/report.html

"THE CONSUMER COST OF THE MICROSOFT MONOPOLY:
 $10 BILLION OF OVERCHARGES AND COUNTING
 Consumer Federation of America
 Media Access Project
 US Public Interest Research Group
 January 1999"

?



Louis

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