Linux-Misc Digest #645, Volume #18 Sat, 16 Jan 99 21:13:07 EST
Contents:
Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class. ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class. ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class. (John Morris)
Re: 123 test 123 (Peter Granroth)
User Friendly ISP for Linux ("Roy Graham")
Re: unknown monitor specs (Vittadini Strumentazione - WEBMASTER)
Re: 2.2.0pre7 boot error that won't go away (Johan Kullstam)
Re: disable PnP? (Chris LaVelle)
Re: WP8 equations<->MSWord? (Rod Smith)
Re: XFee86 and the SiS 530 chipset problem (LEONARD Daniel)
Bash Programming Reference (Rich Grise)
Re: Telnet macro. Does it exist? (Peter S. Frouman)
Re: fvwm2's FvwmEvent dumping cores. . . (Vlad D. Markov)
NT won't let me repartition HD ("����")
Re: Are conditional symbolic links possible? (Michael Meissner)
Re: How can I use vesablank to shut off my monitor from X? (Michael Meissner)
Re: Telnet macro. Does it exist? (NF Stevens)
Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class. ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: WP8 equations<->MSWord? (Rod Smith)
Re: This is Linux, not Windows, so why not superior flexibility AND idiot-friendly?
(Sven Utcke)
Re: Is RH 5.2 good to you? (garv)
Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class. (Alexander Viro)
Re: Making reliable profilings under linux !!!! (James Youngman)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class.
Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 22:48:26 GMT
In article <OCLEZnYQ#[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Joshua Schaeffer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Ok Loose nuts. Maybe windows is less stable, but this is ONLY important
> >for the most critical applications of our time !!!!!!!!!!
>
> Not quite. When I'm navigating deep within a hierarchy of hyperlinks in
> Internet Explorer under Win95 only to have the machine crash, I have to work
> EXTREMELY hard to resist throwing the monitor out the window. I've lost
> track of countless pages of important information that way.
>
> >I really do not see the big deal with rebooting a'la CTRL-ALT-DEL even if
> >I have to do once a day! I always save my data automatically. The worst
> that
> >will happen is that I'll lose 5 minutes of work! big deal !!!
>
> It's a VERY big deal depending on which 5 minutes of work you lose. And you
> don't get a choice, either.
>
> >I think the crashes things is over sold and is getting old and boring
> >to tell you the truth.
> >
> >is there nothing new the Unix/Linux crowds can say other than this????????
>
> This alone is a very strong argument that can't and won't be ignored. On
> these grounds, I don't even consider Win9x a serious platform for ANYONE'S
> use. Therefore, I think the Win9x vs. Linux argument is a waste of time,
> and that the argument should really be NT vs. Linux, because in a year's use
> I haven't had an NT machine crash on me yet.
>
>
actually if you beat on an NT machine enough it will blue screen on you just
like 95/98, and it is a ridiculous pig of system resources comapred to
anything else normally using between 24 and 30 megs of RAM just to to boot
itself up. Dont believe me, put on the task manager and see for yourself
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Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class.
Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 22:50:42 GMT
>
> programming in windows sucks. stray pointers taking down your world
> multiple times per day. debugging through system crashes is lots of
> fun. linux puts the fun back into coding.
>
> --
> Johan Kullstam [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Don't Fear the Penguin!
>
programming in windows using any MS developer product is also self defeating
if you want to make crossplatform applications, because they are designed to
only let you build for the win32 platform, quite an annoying situation.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Morris)
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class.
Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 21:48:03 GMT
>>It seems things have come full circle as far as
>>going back to "centralized" computing systems.
>
>Wellll... no! We don't have a centralized paradigm now, we have
>a "distributed" system. We put cpu power almost anywhere on the
>net. We put data storage almost anywhere on the net. And we
>also put the display almost anywhere on the net. In fact in all
>three cases we can even split it into many places on the net.
>And as bandwidth becomes less expensive that will be greatly
>expanded.
OK.... that explains it a little better. Bear
with me as I am dumb abt all this but have found
this thread fascinating and informative listening
to you guys talk. <GG>
Now..... what was so bad abt "centralized"
computing as was used in the "old days"??
I mean.... why is it desirable to have cpu power,
data storage, and display ANYWHERE on the net?
When you say "net"... I am assuming you mean a
network as in an office network or LAN.... and not
the Internet? Or... is there fundamentally NO
diff between the two??
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From: Peter Granroth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 123 test 123
Date: 16 Jan 1999 23:53:53 +0100
"Patrick D. Rockwell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> This is a test.
>
Then why didn't you post it to a test group?
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From: "Roy Graham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: User Friendly ISP for Linux
Date: 13 Jan 1999 04:01:18 GMT
Does anyone know of a good Linux base ISP where one can simply enter their
name and p-word without writing a book. Save ME FROM
WIN_DA Roy:} my current isp uses chap one pain to configure but it could be
easy for I'm A newbie.
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From: Vittadini Strumentazione - WEBMASTER <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux
Subject: Re: unknown monitor specs
Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 00:30:21 +0000
E wrote:
> I have an old 486 computer with monitor. i no longer have the manual
> for the monitor. all i know is that it is a VGA/SVGA monitor. (not
> even sure about SVGA part). i believe the model is a Sceptre CM6. are
> there some safe values i can use when i configure X for the monitor?
> thanks for any help.
>
> E
Stay conservative....
Figure out 60 Hz vertical refresh and 800x600 at 256 colors...
Giovanni M. Vittadini
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Subject: Re: 2.2.0pre7 boot error that won't go away
From: Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 16 Jan 1999 19:34:17 -0500
Frank Hale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Johan Kullstam wrote:
> >
> > no, i do not know why it won't find your System.map. i put my
> > system.map in /boot along with the kernel (i'm running linux220p7
> > too). i don't seem to get that error.
> >
> > --
> > Johan Kullstam [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Don't Fear the Penguin!
>
> What upgrades did you make to your system? RH 5.2 will work without any
> upgrades. Trying to figure it out I upgraded modutils ,initscripts,
> sysklog, but it was no good I still get the problems and I also know one
> other person who has the same problem, maybe this is a big problem
> because everyone who responds to this question doesn't know the answer,
> or they tell me stuff I have already done, and dejanews.com is a dead
> end too.
i am not sure. i grepped for System.map in the kernel sources and
found nothing in any non-documetation or non-makefile. i don't think
there's anything in the kernel looking for System.map.
next i poked around in /etc/rc.d. /etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit has some stuff
about setting up links to the System.map. it seems to be keyed off
.rhkmvtag. just on a lark, try this
cat /proc/version > /lib/modules/2.2.0-pre7/.rhkmvtag
see if that helps.
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Johan Kullstam [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Don't Fear the Penguin!
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From: Chris LaVelle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: disable PnP?
Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 22:21:21 +0000
Robert Canright wrote:
> I got this helpful posting to my call for help:
>
> >"Hey,
>
> > I had the same exact problem. That means that your eth0 configuration is
> >messed up. Did you disable the PnP on the card (using the dos disk provided)
> >before you installed linux??
> > What you have to do is disable PnP, get the irq and i/o for the >card, and
> >enter it manually in the diagnosis program. Then linux
> >should get along with it."
>
> I've installed Linux about 4 times so far. I blew away everything
> that was on the machine before. So will a "dos disk" work without
> dos? Actually, the manual that comes with the disks say that the
> disks won't work with DOS, only with NT or Windows98, but those are
> gone now.
>
> Anyway, this tip about PnP was very useful. On some "howto" page for
> Linux I found an explanation about how PnP Bios turns off some card
> slots at boot time so the autoprobe cannot find an ethernet card that
> is plugged into a "turned off" slot.
>
> I'm going to try moving the ethernet card to different slots and
> reinstalling Linux with the card in different slots (the installation
> hangs and leaves me with a broken computer so I have to reinstall
> Linux, the installation never completes).
>
> But if that doesn't work, how does one turn off the PnP?
> (Remember I no longer have NT or any Window9X on the machine.)
> Any hardware web pages that might help?
>
> Thanks,
> Rob
Alot of times you can disable PnP with dip switches on the card, but you'll have to
look at the card and/or documentation on the specific card. I had a modem that to
diable PnP I just had to adjust the dip switchs.
Hope this helps,
Chris LaVelle
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rod Smith)
Subject: Re: WP8 equations<->MSWord?
Date: 15 Jan 1999 22:25:58 GMT
[Posted and mailed]
In article <77o870$7ok$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Brian Moore) writes:
>
> Just to be clear--the linux wp8 *does* have an equation editor? I
> was using the free version, which I like, and saw that it did not
> have an equation editor and I was about to order the retail version,
> but it did not make this clear on the web page.
Yes, the retail version of WP8 for Linux most definitely *DOES* include an
equation editor. I received my package the other day and installed it,
and the equation editor is there and does work. (Before you ask for more
details, though, be aware that I seldom use this feature, and so haven't
investigated it deeply. It's present, it can create the couple of simple
equations I tried, and that's all I know.)
--
Rod Smith
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From: LEONARD Daniel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: XFee86 and the SiS 530 chipset problem
Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 22:27:17 GMT
On Fri, 15 Jan 1999, Jerry wrote:
> Hi all,
>=20
> I am trying to get XFree86 running on my SiS 530 chipset. The video
> inside the chip is a 64-bit 3D AGP Graphics Accelerator(6326??), but all
> I get when I run startx is either a graphic screen that is all jumbled
> or it dumps me back to the prompt. At this time the display is
> trashed(nothing but funny character) and nothing is viewable. I have to
> restart linux to get a viewable screen. I tried to SiS 6236, SiS AGP PRO
> and SiS 5597 all with the same result. Everyhing else is working fine. I
> have gone through most of the FAQs without any luck. Is there any
> anybody I can get help from on this?
>=20
> Thanks
>=20
> jerry
Have you tried the program named SuperProbe. It determines IIRC the card
with its chipset.
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Computer Science Student "Anything worthwhile takes time"
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From: Rich Grise <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Bash Programming Reference
Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 15:26:28 -0600
Is there any such of a thing as a "This is how you write Bash scripts"
document on-line anywhere? (Or did one come with my Slackware 3.3.0
CD?)
Thanks!
--
Rich Grise
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(No need to fuss with my e-mail: I have a "delete" button!)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter S. Frouman)
Subject: Re: Telnet macro. Does it exist?
Date: 15 Jan 1999 22:30:38 GMT
On Fri, 15 Jan 1999 14:08:07 -0500, Christian Brideau
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I want to automate complete telnet sessions. In other words, logon-do
>stuff-get out.
>
>Is this scriptable? If not is there a macro software out there that I
>could use to perform this task?
Expect can handle this. see http://expect.nist.gov/
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-Peter Frouman | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Random Fortune:
There are two major products that come out of Berkeley: LSD and UNIX.
We don't believe this to be a coincidence.
-- Jeremy S. Anderson
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Vlad D. Markov)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: fvwm2's FvwmEvent dumping cores. . .
Date: 17 Jan 1999 00:54:07 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Norvell Spearman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
|> I'm running RedHat Linux 5.1 with fvwm2-2.1.4-2 and
|> AnotherLevel-0.7.3-1. My sound card works fine (configured with
|> sndconfig --noprobe), but when I enable sounds for events in XWindows, I
|> get a core dump. The same thing happened when I was using earlier
|> versions of fvwm2 which had FvwmAudio.
|>
|> If no one else has had this problem, could somebody please tell me how
|> to glean information from a core file?
|>
|> Many thanks,
You can only glean information from a core file if the executable was made
to include debugging information. Using gcc, you have to compile using the "-g"
option. Most stuff in distributions is stripped (has no debugging stuff)
because stripped executables are smaller and truly most of the code is stable.
Most debuggers in Linux are gui interfaces to gnu's gdb so they similarly
take the arguments of "executable corefile".
There were multiple opportunities to core dump in FvwmAudio - in FvwmAudio or
the executable you chose to play your audio. If you have a core file try
"gdb someExecutable coreFile", I have found that gdb will not only tell
me I selected the wrong executable but will tell me the correct one. Perhaps
your sound software is giving you problems.
Good Luck,
Vlad
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From: "����" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: NT won't let me repartition HD
Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 00:53:57 +0800
I was about to install SuSe linux 5.3 when I encountered a problem in
that Win NT will not allow me to repartion the HD.
Background:
Last week I installed a 2nd HD with the intention of a) relieving
congestion on my C: drive and b) installing linux.
Upon intial installation, I successfully partioned the second drive as
follows:
4.3gig drive with one 2.14gig extended partion allocated to two logical
drives. D: 2gig and X: 140Mb for NT pagefile.sys. Remainder left as Free
Space for eventual linux install.
After some re-thinking, I decided I wanted to redo the partitioning
scheme.
First oddity encountered: I discovered that there was no pagefile.sys on
the X: drive.
Second oddity, both locigal drives contained Recycle Bins which I could
not delete. At one point, I performed a MOVE taking them over to the C:
drive. They no longer appeared in the Window explorer screen. But as
soon as I closed the screen and re-opened it, they were there again!
As a result, I cannot repartion to the second drive.(or do ANYTHING -- I
also tried reformatting them. No go!)
Follow-up:
I do not know if it is related, ut along with this problem, I now cannot
read anything from my floppy drive A: either. When I insert a diskette,
the system tells me that it is an unrecognizable media. Clicking on
retry literally crashes the system (I mean DEAD...as in the screen goes
blue and fills up with Intel postmortem dump!)
Advice and assistance DESPERATELY needed and GREATLY appreciated.
Thanks!
--
"Mathematics is the foundation of all science and those who are
profficent in it become the builders of society."
The Honorable Ellijah Mohammed
"A mathematician is a machine for turning coffee into theorems."
Paul Erdos
Mathematician
"1) Mathematics is the language of nature.
2) Everything around us can be represented and understood through
numbers.
3) If you graph the numbers of any system, patterns emerge.
4) Therefore, there are pattterns everywhere in nature."
The Assumptions
from the movie "Pi"
"We need to protect ourselves, not with laws but with mathematics."
Bruce Schneier
Author of "Applied
Cryptography"
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From: Michael Meissner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Are conditional symbolic links possible?
Date: 15 Jan 1999 10:40:30 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> Is there any way whatsoever (even a quick and dirty way) to make netscape see
> libc.so as pointing to one version of libc, while other programs linked to
> libc.so see it as pointing to a different version? Perhaps this is not
> possible directly, but could a shell script successfully accomplish this
> while letting apps that use the two different versions co-exist peacefully?
Before executing the netscape executable, set the environment variable
LD_PRELOAD to the list of libraries to preload, and then go execute it:
LD_PRELOAD=/lib/netscape/libc.so.5.4.33:/lib/netscape/libXpm.so.4.6
--
Michael Meissner, Cygnus Solutions (Massachusetts office)
4th floor, 955 Massachusetts Avenue, Cambridge, MA 02139, USA
[EMAIL PROTECTED], 617-354-5416 (office), 617-354-7161 (fax)
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From: Michael Meissner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: How can I use vesablank to shut off my monitor from X?
Date: 15 Jan 1999 10:50:47 -0500
Rob Mahurin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> How can I use the VESA blanking program (defined in
> /usr/src/linux/drivers/char/vesa_blank.c) that successfully powers down
> my monitor from the console from X?
>
> Trying to use "xset +dpms" doesn't work; apparently that uses a
> different protocol. "xset dpms force standby|suspend|off" all blank my
> screen, but make a rather frightening intermittent buzz somewhere in the
> innards of my monitor.
Many, but not all of the Xservers support the option power_saver in the device
section. You would need to edit your /etc/X11/XF86Config file. For example,
my device section looks like:
Section "Device"
Identifier "Matrox Millenium-II"
VendorName "Matrox"
BoardName "Millenium-II"
# option "mga_24bpp_fix"
option "power_saver"
#option "no_bitblt"
VideoRam 8192
# Insert Clocks lines here if appropriate
EndSection
--
Michael Meissner, Cygnus Solutions (Massachusetts office)
4th floor, 955 Massachusetts Avenue, Cambridge, MA 02139, USA
[EMAIL PROTECTED], 617-354-5416 (office), 617-354-7161 (fax)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (NF Stevens)
Subject: Re: Telnet macro. Does it exist?
Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 22:37:08 GMT
Christian Brideau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I want to automate complete telnet sessions. In other words, logon-do
>stuff-get out.
>
>Is this scriptable? If not is there a macro software out there that I
>could use to perform this task?
Have you tried expect. The following is from the rpm spec
Expect is a tool primarily for automating interactive applications
such as telnet, ftp, passwd, fsck, rlogin, tip, etc. Expect really
makes this stuff trivial. Expect is also useful for testing these
same applications. Expect is described in many books, articles,
papers, and FAQs. There is an entire book on it available from
O'Reilly.
Norman
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class.
Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 22:28:00 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
winsor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> hehehehe
> All this grumbling...........would 75% of we "Linux users" use Linux if
> it weren't for finding this "free UN*X clone operating system" while
> surfing under an M$ operating system???
> I'd think not 8^P
Well, actually I was using my first School's Unix computers when a friend of
mine came in with a Shoebox full of disks, which I took home and tried to
install blind into my home computer(then a 386/40 with a 100 meg HDD), and it
worked too..until my Parents got on the computer and found this wierd LILO
boot prompt at start-up, back in early 1995. Before MS became the real Fat
Hog that it is now.
> To find something "better" we first have to find something that's not as
> "good"........
I had little trouble with either system (linux OR windows)until Jedi Knight
came out, requiring that I have Win95. Whether I used Telix to connect to a
unix system, or I used Win3.1's Winsock to get there, Win3.1 was NOT the MS
nightmare that 4.0 was. Win3.1 w/Dos 6.2 was just as good as Linux for what
I needed it for. In fact..Win3.1 was less likely to go down than a girl with
her jaw wired shut, while Win95 is a veritable Lewinksy. Suddenly Linux
filled all of my needs, while Windows was relegated to the amusements OS...
(That's My Political Humor! Not intended to offend any of the female
readership (or the particularly sensitive MALE readership either))
Mike
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rod Smith)
Subject: Re: WP8 equations<->MSWord?
Date: 15 Jan 1999 22:42:24 GMT
[Posted and mailed]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Kryz Caputa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Brian Moore wrote:
>>
>>
>> Just to be clear--the linux wp8 *does* have an equation editor? I
>> was using the free version, which I like, and saw that it did not
>> have an equation editor and I was about to order the retail version,
>> but it did not make this clear on the web page.
>
> The answer I think is: maybe
The answer is a definite "yes." I've got the product, and the equation
editor *IS* there.
> Considering all the science students, and researchers, professional
> people and a large part of the industry that occasionally use equations
> in their documents, that is not such a marginal market. And all this
> market is basically given away to M$FT?
There are two issues here:
1) An equation editor in the product itself. Most "serious" word
processors these days include one. Many people in the sciences prefer
LaTeX because of what they consider its superior equation editor.
(Don't ask me for details; I don't use an equation editor enough to
know why LaTeX is claimed to be superior, or even to have an opinion
on the matter.)
2) Import/export filters, and the ability to handle equations
specifically.
Given that most word processors DO have equation editors, "giving away"
the market to Microsoft, as you suggest they do, implies that file
exchange with MS Word is necessary. Is it, though? For some people,
certainly, for any of a number of reasons. For others, no. If you're an
academician who writes a solo paper, you can use whatever you want; file
import/export is largely irrelevant. If you're writing a paper with
co-authors, you can decide as a group on what to use. There's no law that
says you have to use MS Word. Sometimes a publisher will impose such a
requirement, but not always.
> Couldn't someone come up with an external filter, not a word processor,
> no GUI, just a command line filter, something like msw2wp or msw2fm -
> similar thing for framemaker and latex? Sounds like a good term project
> for a computer science student - or is there mort to it than that? Are
> the equations protected with a 128 bit key or something like that???
This goes far beyond equations. Document conversion isn't easy, else
everybody would have perfect import/export filters. The internals of one
word processor's files may have requirements that don't map well onto the
requirements for another program. How do you handle features that aren't
exactly equivalent between programs? Font names? Modern word processors
have so many features and are so complex that doing a good conversion job
would probably be as difficult as writing a word processor.
Now, as to why equations in particular seem to be handled so poorly, I
don't have any insights.
In general and IMHO, import/export filters are not something you want to
rely upon for everyday use, at least not when the same file is going back
and forth repeatedly. Each conversion will introduce new weirdnesses, and
sooner or later it'll blow up in your face. The more features you use,
the sooner that'll happen.
If you'd post precisely why the ability to read MS Word documents is so
important to you, perhaps somebody could suggest some sort of workaround
-- a way to avoid using MS Word, for instance, or some way to achieve
whatever your goal is without loading a Word file into a Linux
application.
--
Rod Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.users.fast.net/~rodsmith
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From: Sven Utcke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.portable,comp.os.linux.powerpc,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: This is Linux, not Windows, so why not superior flexibility AND
idiot-friendly?
Date: 15 Jan 1999 21:08:43 +0100
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Larry) writes:
> On Fri, 15 Jan 1999 07:34:24 GMT, MalkContent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >aIts a pain in the backside to mount then unmount a CDROM.
> >even though it looks like :
> > mount dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom/blahblahblah
>
> Put the cdrom in /etc/fstab:
>
> /dev/cdrom /cdrom iso9660 ro,user,unhide
>
> then: mkdir /cdrom
>
> then all you have to do is:
> 'mount /cdrom' and 'umount /cdrom'
>
> Nothing hard about that.
>
> you can even write a little script for each one of these if that's
> too much typing for you. Name 'em cdin and cdout or even ci and co
No, don't. ci and co are usually programs comming with RCS, namely
"check in" and "check out".
Sven
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From: garv <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Is RH 5.2 good to you?
Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 22:45:27 GMT
Ulf Bohman wrote:
> Howdy!
>
> I was just thinking I'd put a message here first before I upgrade from
> 5.0 to 5.2.
After some FUD, I did an upgrade from RH5.1 to 5.2 with few problems.
Some default files were overwritten, but no big deal. Back up first, of
course. And I had my /home on its own partition, so my personal files
were preserved.
I did see messages in one (or more?) linux newsgroup about big problems,
but mine went ok. And I only tried it once; I get RPM errors when I try
to install 5.1 on new machine. (MSI super seven, 100 MHz bus, 6 GB Maxtor
and ls-120). The superflop works fine on 5.2 with no compile.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alexander Viro)
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class.
Date: 16 Jan 1999 20:32:43 -0500
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[ObWindowsStability]
>Is it as stable as MS marketing claims? Of course not. I wish they
>would put the money where their mouth is.
They do. Their marketing is their mouth. And they put all money there ;-)
--
"You're one of those condescending Unix computer users!"
"Here's a nickel, kid. Get yourself a better computer" - Dilbert.
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From: James Youngman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: Making reliable profilings under linux !!!!
Date: 15 Jan 1999 23:06:37 +0000
"Pedro Ribeiro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 'm trying to profile a program under linux but, because all of my functions
> executes in less that 10ms, gprof tell 0.0 to all function avg execution
> times ... leaving-me with just a function execution count which isn't much
> usefull without the times ...
>
> How can i obtain more precise times ??
Make the program run for longer, perhaps by putting a loop in main().
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