Linux-Misc Digest #645, Volume #21 Thu, 2 Sep 99 19:13:16 EDT
Contents:
vt420 (Herve Delmas)
Re: lpd question - page removal (Chris Mahmood)
Help with Errors on Boot! ("Jonathan Desrochers")
Help with Linux on CD (Diane en Wim Sinke)
Re: Fonts not displayed properly in Navigator on Sun, Linux (Grant Edwards)
/sbin is gone? help! (Jeff Fedor)
Re: Amiga, QNX, Linux and Revolution (Jeffrey C. Dege)
Re: xman retrieves garbled documents -- bzip issue? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: REAL PLAYER G2 Problems ("CHamel")
Re: Amiga, QNX, Linux and Revolution (Grant Edwards)
Re: How to exec CGI scripts? (Philip S Tellis)
Installation of CD-Writer on existing Redhat system ("Graham C. Welling")
Re: Best Linux Distro? / Best GUI? (Tim Kelley)
NeoMagic X server (laptop) under Debian: Possible? How? (Kenny McCormack)
Re: Best Linux Distro? / Best GUI? (Donn Miller)
Re: Best Linux Distro? / Best GUI? (Tim Kelley)
Re: Netscape 4.6 + JAVA -> freezes (Anita Lewis)
Re: Star Office 5.1: Is it just me ... (Alistair Hamilton)
MS DLLs vs. Linux Shared Libs (Lynn Levy)
Re: C vs C++ for Open Source projects (Johan Kullstam)
Re: Cat Command not Found (Chris Mahmood)
Re: Sun acquires StarOffice; gives it away for free (Paul Seelig)
Re: Password protected web page (Martin)
Re: Any Support for PCI Modems? (Michel Catudal)
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From: Herve Delmas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: vt420
Date: Thu, 02 Sep 1999 20:28:44 GMT
I am looking for at VT420 terminal emulator . I tryied to configure
xterm to emulate a VT420 terminal but I did not success. Any Idea?
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From: Chris Mahmood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: lpd question - page removal
Date: 01 Sep 1999 18:49:25 -0700
Hann Wei Toh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Is there any way to remove this additional [banner] page?
lpr(1):
-h Suppress the printing of the burst page.
or
printcap(8):
sh bool false suppress printing of burst page header
-ckm
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Reply-To: "Jonathan Desrochers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: "Jonathan Desrochers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Help with Errors on Boot!
Date: Thu, 02 Sep 1999 20:47:18 GMT
Thanks in advance for any help you can provide.
Please email me any help to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Errors on Boot:
desmod: *** unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.2.7/video/vfb.o
desmod: *** unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.2.7/misc/mau.o
desmod: *** unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.2.7/pcmcia/ibmtr_cs.o
desmod: *** unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.2.7/pcmcia/iscc_cs.o
desmod: *** unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.2.7/pcmcia/mpsuni_cs.o
desmod: *** unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.2.7/misc/sf.0
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From: Diane en Wim Sinke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Help with Linux on CD
Date: Thu, 02 Sep 1999 22:25:45 +0200
Hi,
I Want to create a demo CD of a program I've created. The program needs
X-Windows and Linux to work, I don't have large speed requests, so I
think booting an entire Linux session from CD should work. The problem
is that I need some read/write directories. Most of these can be created
during the booting process using the rc.sysconfig script (I create some
ram disks), but I am still having trouble with the /dev directory. Did
anybody do something similar, or does any one have some great ideas?
Please let me know.
I'm also interested in the problems involved of running X in a
read-only environment.
Regards,
Wim Sinke ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: grant@nowhere. (Grant Edwards)
Crossposted-To: comp.infosystems.www.browsers.misc,comp.infosystems.www.browsers.x
Subject: Re: Fonts not displayed properly in Navigator on Sun, Linux
Date: Thu, 02 Sep 1999 17:22:29 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Steven Lee wrote:
>It seems many web pages are designed for Windows. When I run Netscape
>Navigator on my Sun or Linux, the font is sometimes too small to read.
>For example, www.excite.com, is one of them. The culprit seems to be
>something like this.
>
><DIV STYLE="font-family: helvetica; font-size: 9pt">very small
>text</DIV>
That's a result of @#$%ing morons using @#$%ed-up tools
to design web pages.
They think everybody in the world has the exact same system
they do, so if it looks nice on their computer, then it will
look nice on everybody else's. So they hard-wire the fonts and
sizes in the document instead of doing it the RIGHT way with
the proper HTML tags.
FrontPage and its users are espcially guilty, and ought to be
punished somehow (other than having to use MS tools, that is).
--
Grant Edwards grante Yow! Oh, I get it!! "The
at BEACH goes on", huh,
visi.com SONNY??
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From: Jeff Fedor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: /sbin is gone? help!
Date: Wed, 01 Sep 1999 18:20:43 -0700
/ was 100% full and i picked the wrong directory
(/sbin) to sym link to another partition.
when booting, i discovered that only the /
partition is mounted read-only and it needs
stuff in /sbin to finish booting. since i
moved /sbin to a partition that is not mounted
during this initial boot phase, i'm SOL.
any advice? i mostly would like to get to /home
(which is in yet another partition) and dump to
tape, then call it a day, but full recovery
would be nice.
abuse not solicited, but deserved :-(
(i'm running RH 5.2, if it matters)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jeffrey C. Dege)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.qnx,comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: Amiga, QNX, Linux and Revolution
Date: Thu, 02 Sep 1999 17:17:05 GMT
On Thu, 02 Sep 1999 06:43:58 +0200, Petr Krenzelok <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>
>Why to lose advantages of realtime OS, as QNX is? We Amigans are pissed of
>by Linux enough. It's as multimedia friendly as Win3.1 is, so judge for
>yourself. Linux is just big hype of last years, no technicla revolution, so
>who cares ...
I don't know many Amiga users who are at all pissed off at Linux.
_Every_ Amiga user I knew in the old days moved to Linux years back.
A few of them still use the Amiga as well. Most have abandoned it.
Personally, I bought my Amiga 1000 in 1987, my Linux box in 1994, and
sold my Amiga 2500 in 1998.
We're all still rather fond of the Amiga, and rather nostalgic about it.
There are a number of things about the Amiga that I really wish would
make it into the mainstream. But Linux does a number of things right
that the Amiga got flat wrong. (Memory protection between processes,
actual process control, OS tracking of resource allocation, etc.)
Now it may well be that the few holdouts who are still hanging on have
some sort of gripe against Linux, but I'll lay odds that there are
far more former Amiga users in the Linux camp than there are current
Amiga users.
--
You'd think that after all this time
I would have dreamed up a really clever .sig!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: xman retrieves garbled documents -- bzip issue?
Date: Thu, 02 Sep 1999 18:01:02 GMT
I have the same problem and untill now i have no solution.
I would also appreciate any help.
Thanks.
Pierre.
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi,
>
> After installing Mandrake 6.0, xman no longer works. The sections
> appear in the directory listing, but opening them results in a window
> that contains a garbled mess of characters. In addition, I receive
> error messages from geqn stating an invalid character was found. I
> imagine this is all occurring because the man pages are no longer
> standard script file format, but instead in bz2 compressed format.
>
> When I run the regular man command, I can see the pages fine -- so I
> figure that man can decompress files as needed. Is the same true for
> xman? I don't see anything in the xman manual page that pertains to
> this.
>
> Any help would be appreciated.
>
> Regards
>
> Steve
>
>
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Share what you know. Learn what you don't.
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From: "CHamel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,alt.os.linux.caldera
Subject: Re: REAL PLAYER G2 Problems
Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 16:08:51 -0700
That makes three of us... mine didn't do a damn thing, either, and was
nearly 8MB! I wonder what gives!?
>I had the same thing happen except it had a .exe extension! Viewing the
>file with a text editor shows linux and elf strings near the start of
>the file but its useless as far as I can see (and huge, for a player.
>Mine was a 8 megs).
>
> email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
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From: grant@nowhere. (Grant Edwards)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.qnx,comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: Amiga, QNX, Linux and Revolution
Date: Thu, 02 Sep 1999 18:29:10 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Petr Krenzelok wrote:
>Why to lose advantages of realtime OS, as QNX is? We Amigans are pissed of
>by Linux enough. It's as multimedia friendly as Win3.1 is, so judge for
>yourself. Linux is just big hype of last years, no technicla revolution, so
>who cares ...
Nobody ever claimed Linux was a technical revolution. We've
always admitted it was "just" a re-implementation of an
existing (and somewhat old) standard.
Linux is more of a _cultural_ revolution. If it wasn't Linux,
it probably would have been one of the free BSDs. Linux just
seems to have been the right thing at the right place and time
to build up a a sort of critical mass.
--
Grant Edwards grante Yow! My FAVORITE group
at is "QUESTION MARK & THE
visi.com MYSTERIANS"...
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From: Philip S Tellis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to exec CGI scripts?
Date: Fri, 03 Sep 1999 00:06:31 +0530
Korah wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I've been trying to execute CGI scripts in linux using a C library.
> Unfortunately, when I press the Submit button in simple HTML form, there is
> no response. I know that it tries to do something, because it reports an
> obvious error if I give a non-existent filename. Otherwise, on pressing the
> submit button, it simply reports Done without any change in the page. Could
> someone please help me on this.
>
> Thommen
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Try looking at your server log files. They should be in the
/etc/httpd/logs directory (RH6). Look at access_log and error_log.
Check the error for the relevant submission (look at the date and time).
You should also try executing the program as a standalone (not as CGI)
from the shellprompt. Does it give you HTML output? Is your first line
of output: content text/html? It has to be to tell the server that the
file output is HTML.
Philip
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From: "Graham C. Welling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Installation of CD-Writer on existing Redhat system
Date: Thu, 02 Sep 1999 15:10:31 -0400
We are running Red Hat Linux version 5.0 (I think) here and we are
trying to install a CD-Writer. (The kernel version is 2.0.35).
We have physically installed the Yamaha CRW4416S drive internally
connected to an existing Adaptec SCSI controller. The drive is
detected by the PC BIOS and appears to be detected by Linux (see
partial output from dmesg below). I have read through the Howto
documents for CDROM and CD-Writing and am confused as to what needs to
be done to associate the new CD-RW drive with a device in /dev.
I plan to install the cdrecord 1.6 RPM but before doing so I would
like to make sure that the CD-RW is visible to the system.
The other SCSI device in use is the hard disk drive, and there is
already a regular IDE CDROM drive installed and working.
Thanks in advance,
Graham Welling ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
P.S.
Partial output from dmesg:
=========================
scsi : 0 hosts.
scsi : detected total.
Partition check:
RAMDISK: Compressed image found at block 0
EXT2-fs warning: checktime reached, running e2fsck is recommended
VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem).
aic7xxx: Warning - detected auto-termination on controller:
aic7xxx: <Adaptec AHA-294X Ultra SCSI host adapter> at PCI 13/0
aic7xxx: Please verify driver detected settings are correct.
aic7xxx: If not, then please properly set the device termination
aic7xxx: in the Adaptec SCSI BIOS by hitting CTRL-A when prompted
aic7xxx: during machine bootup.
aic7xxx: Cables present (Int-50 YES, Int-68 YES, Ext-68 NO)
aic7xxx: Termination (Low OFF, High ON)
(scsi0) <Adaptec AHA-294X Ultra SCSI host adapter> found at PCI 13/0
(scsi0) Wide Channel, SCSI ID=7, 16/255 SCBs
(scsi0) BIOS enabled, IO Port 0x1000, IRQ 10
(scsi0) IO Memory at 0xf4100000, MMAP Memory at 0x401b000
(scsi0) Resetting channel
(scsi0) Downloading sequencer code... 413 instructions downloaded
scsi0 : Adaptec AHA274x/284x/294x (EISA/VLB/PCI-Fast SCSI) 5.0.19/3.2.4
<Adaptec AHA-294X Ultra SCSI host adapter>
scsi : 1 host.
(scsi0:0:-1:-1) Scanning channel for devices.
Vendor: QUANTUM Model: VIKING II 9.1WLS Rev: 3506
Type: Direct-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 02
Detected scsi disk sda at scsi0, channel 0, id 0, lun 0
Vendor: YAMAHA Model: CRW4416S Rev: 1.0g
Type: CD-ROM ANSI SCSI revision: 02
Detected scsi CD-ROM sr0 at scsi0, channel 0, id 3, lun 0
(scsi0:0:0:0) Using wide (16 bit) transfers.
(scsi0:0:0:0) Synchronous at 20.0MHz, offset 8.
SCSI device sda: hdwr sector= 512 bytes. Sectors= 17836668 [8709 MB] [8.7 GB]
sda: sda1 sda2 < sda5 sda6 sda7 sda8 >
=========================
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From: Tim Kelley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.admin
Subject: Re: Best Linux Distro? / Best GUI?
Date: Thu, 02 Sep 1999 16:19:53 -0500
Steve Gage wrote:
>
> Tim Kelley wrote:
>
> > RedHat 6 is terrible. RedHat 5.2 is pretty darn good. slackware
> > 4.0 is really nice too. SuSE I hear is pretty good.
>
> Just curious what you find "terrible" about RH 6. I've had a very smooth
> experience with it.
oh, many bugs. rpm doesn't work right (many times I installed
packages, only to have "rpm -e package" tell me it wasn't
installed, but rpm -qa would list it right there.
many others with gnome and kde.
--
Tim Kelley
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
"If evolution is outlawed only outlaws will evolve"
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kenny McCormack)
Subject: NeoMagic X server (laptop) under Debian: Possible? How?
Date: 2 Sep 1999 15:58:46 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I installed Red Hat 6.x on a laptop, and it found and supports my video in X
just fine - Says it is a Magic Graph NM2160 - and it is supported by the
SVGA server in 16 bit, 1024x768.
However, under Debian (Debian 2.1, CD from Linux System Labs), no go.
How to make work - in a clean, normal way?
Update (and the reason I say "clean, normal way" above):
While writing this post, I actually figured out how to make it work.
I'm rather proud of myself. The steps are as below, but you have to admit,
it is ugly!
1) Install Red Hat - get it working there. Save the XF86Config file.
Call this XF86Config.RedHat
2) Reformat and install Debian.
3) Goto ftp.debian.org and find and download the file:
xserver-neomagic_1_1_0-1-1.deb
4) dpkg -i the file. What exactly this does to your system is
unclear. In particular, note that the latest Debian uses some
scheme with the file /etc/X11/Xserver to tell it which server to
use, but not every system piece respects its contents (see below).
In particular, the problem is that the XF86Setup program doesn't
know about the new server you just installed, so you're on your
own in terms of getting it to work.
5) Now, note that the config file you got from Red Hat won't work
directly, because Red Hat, bless their little souls, uses weird
stuff like font servers and so on, which nobody else uses. So,
you need to cut and paste a bit.
6) Run XF86Setup, and just make a basic 640x480, 8 bit XFConfig file.
Call this XF86Config.Debian
7) Now, copy XF86Config.RedHat to XF86Config, and edit it.
You need to replace the existing "Section Files" with the
one from XF86Config.Debian.
8) Finally, the Red Hat config file expects to be running the SVGA
server, so you have to go to /usr/X11R6/bin and do:
ln -f XBF_NeoMagic XF86_SVGA
Now, when you run 'startx', it should work (it works for me), but there sure
should be an easier way...
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From: Donn Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.admin
Subject: Re: Best Linux Distro? / Best GUI?
Date: Thu, 02 Sep 1999 15:01:10 -0400
TNC wrote:
> Here's a little flamebait for you all. What is the best distro and GUI
> combo? By "best" let me explain. I'm a very experienced Linux
I think GNOME is prettier than KDE. KDE is little more complete,
as it has its own web browser. But GNOME is better looking than
KDE.
As for window managers, I like WindowMaker; it's pretty nice
looking. I thought Afterstep was pretty nice also, but it seemed
a little too quirky. So now, I'm using WindowMaker 0.60.0.
Isn't Enlightenment kind of like WindowMaker in that it has a
NextStep like user interface? Yeah, when GnuStep comes out, it
will probably put the smack down on both KDE and GNOME as the
best looking desktop on the X11 planet. I like WindowMaker
because it has those neat square dockable icons.
Another I like about wmaker is that once you start certain apps
for the first time, such as gvim, Netscape, and Acrobat reader,
you can drag the icons over to the dock. Then, you can just
click on the icons in the dock the Next time you start the
programs. I think the dock-able apps look pretty cool in general
(such as wmWeather and asclock).
In a way, I think WindowMaker is easier than KDE or GNOME to
configure, because all you need to do to add an icon to the dock
is start the program the first time, and then drag its icon to
the dock. In KDE and GNOME, you need to open up some cascading
menus to do the same task.
KDE is pretty nice, but it looks a little too plain-jane. Also,
I don't even use half of those apps that KDE has as part of its
distro, such as kmail and krn. So, I like something simple, yet
good looking, but not as simple as fvwm2. WindowMaker and
Enlightenment seem to fit those criterion.
But, to each his own, and that's one of the nice things about
X11. I'm not going to force anyone to use WindowMaker/GNUStep,
and no one's going to force me to use KDE or GNOME. There's a
wide range of GUIs available to fit individual needs, which is
what's so great about X's "mechanism not policy" policy. Who
knows, maybe there's some nut out there who think twm is great
looking window manager. ;&)
HTH.
--Donn
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From: Tim Kelley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.admin
Subject: Re: Best Linux Distro? / Best GUI?
Date: Thu, 02 Sep 1999 08:20:05 -0500
TNC wrote:
>
> Here's a little flamebait for you all. What is the best distro and GUI
> combo? By "best" let me explain. I'm a very experienced Linux
> user/admin. I started back around 92 with slackware and am currently
> using Redhat 5.0. I've heard many terrible things about RH6.0 and am
> wary. What I want is a distro that installs smoothly, has a good GUI
> (OK, this is also a question about Gnome/KDE) and has a binary package
> installation system that checks dependencies, etc... I liked slackware
> but after a while I gave it up b/c they use tarballs and make you
> compile everything. As I understand it they still do. Opinions? -
> please CC to my email as my newsserver is slow and flaky. Thanks.
I've used just about all of them and I wound up liking debian the
most after using it a lot (and initially not liking it at all).
The install is quite a pain because it's interactive. I will say
that everything is a little harder with Debian, even harder than
slackware. That said Debian is a bit behind the other distros in
WRT to packages; many are out of date, so you might have to
download/compile a few things. I'm wondering myself why package
maintainers can't update package within a certain release ...
especially X. Keeping X up to date is pretty critical to keeping
people using your distribution (yeah I'm aware of the problems
that caused slink to have a old version of xfree). I also use
debian for ethical reasons. I think debian will eventually
outstrip the others as it gains developers.
Debian with KDE 1.1.1 (there are debs available) is very very
nice.
RedHat 6 is terrible. RedHat 5.2 is pretty darn good. slackware
4.0 is really nice too. SuSE I hear is pretty good.
--
Tim Kelley
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
"If evolution is outlawed only outlaws will evolve"
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Anita Lewis)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,netscape.public.mozilla.java
Subject: Re: Netscape 4.6 + JAVA -> freezes
Date: 2 Sep 1999 21:44:38 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Thu, 2 Sep 1999 11:13:57 +0200, Nils Bluethgen
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>Hello out there,
>
>I have a question about NETSCAPE 4.6 / 4.61 and JAVA. On some (not on
>all!) of our computers (we run linux-RH6.0) Netscape freezes when I open
>the URL
>
>http://www.stadtplandienst.de/query;ORT=b;LL=13.420389x52.54105
>
>with JAVA enabled. Without JAVA there's no problem,
>
>I read about the wrong fontpath-settings, but this does
>not seem to be the problem, since chkfontpath --list prints:
>
I am going to be doing an upgrade to 6.0 from 5.2 and asked questions
about it. One thing I was told is that 6.0 had a buggy Netscape but that
I would find an update on my CheapBytes disk. I don't know if that is
your problem. You might go to www.redhat.com support and support search.
There are two separate searches, one specifically searches the question
and answers at support. There well might be something on it there.
Good luck.
Anita
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From: Alistair Hamilton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Star Office 5.1: Is it just me ...
Date: Thu, 02 Sep 1999 22:46:11 +0100
Sorry to follow up my own post, but bugger me if it has not just
crashed again! What did I do? Saved an e-mail draft. Duh!
It saved it OK, just the effort was too much for it.
Thinking back, my Windows NT install of 5.0 crashed all the time too!
Hey, SUN. If my experience is typical, you are in for an exciting time
ahead!
Alistair
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From: Lynn Levy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps
Subject: MS DLLs vs. Linux Shared Libs
Date: Thu, 02 Sep 1999 19:31:05 GMT
Hi,
I'm doing my first Linux project, involving porting a fairly complex
set of interdependent DLLs to Linux shared libraries.
I'd appreciate any pointers to information on the following:
Import/Export directives in Linux: what replaces __declspec(dllimport)
and __declspec(dllexport) and/or the .def file?
What flags to use to force the compiler/linker to create the import
library in a separate step from creating the shared library.
Any tool which will display imports/exports/symbols, equivalent to MS's
"dumpbin".
Any information on Linux's name-mangling scheme.
OS loading criteria for finding and loading a shared library under Linux.
Any other wisdom from those of you who've travelled this road before.
Please respond via email, as my Usenet access is virtually nonexistant
from here...
Thanks greatly in advance,
Lynn
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Crossposted-To: gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: C vs C++ for Open Source projects
From: Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 02 Sep 1999 18:09:15 -0400
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter Seebach) writes:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Matthew Cline <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >What are the disadvantages of using C++, instead of C, for an Open
> >Source project. The only two disadvantages that I can think of are:
>
> >1) Not all potential users might have a C++ compiler.
> >2) There will always be more C programmers that C++ programmers, since
> > anyone who can program C++ can also program C. Thus, making a in C++
> > will prevent some of the development community from working on it.
>
> Actually, the latter is patently false; C++ is *not* a superset of C, it's
> a different language. A good C++ programmer may well be a *sucky* C
> programmer. (And, of course, vice versa.)
take away some C++ reserverd keywords and use ansi prototypes and yes
C++ is essentially a superset of C. this is why C++ is popular. if
it weren't, it
a) wouldn't be C++ (it'd be smalltalk haskell, common-lisp, ML &c)
b) wouldn't be as popular (just like smalltalk, haskell, common-lisp, ML &c)
yes it's practically a tautology, but your denial that C and C++ are
closely related makes me bring up the obvious.
> There are plenty of people who can generate things that some compilers will
> eventually accept as C, but which are fundementally awful code. We do not
> want these people maintaining "C".
are you saying that
#include <stdio.h>
int main(
int argc,
char *argv[])
{
printf("hello world\n");
return 0;
}
is fundamentally awful? note that this classic is valid in both C and C++.
> C++ is a bloated, inefficient, badly designed hog. If you want to
> use a more "powerful" language than C, look at perl, python, or even
> Objective C.
and for something completely different, there's also lisp.
--
J o h a n K u l l s t a m
[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Don't Fear the Penguin!
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From: Chris Mahmood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Cat Command not Found
Date: 01 Sep 1999 18:58:41 -0700
If cat isn't installed then most likely the textutils package is not
installed.
-ckm
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Seelig)
Subject: Re: Sun acquires StarOffice; gives it away for free
Date: 1 Sep 99 10:27:29 GMT
"Mike Palmer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Sun says they're going to open the source, under the Sun Community Source
> License Agreement. Has anyone read this? Can anyone comment (intelligently,
> of course) about the differences between this license and the GPL?
>
IMHO the SCSLA is a bogus open source license because it expliciatly
doesn't allow reuse of the code for any other project while the also
quite restrictive GPL with it's infectuous character at least allows
for reusing code for your own GPL'ed software.
Free software has always been and still is about reuse of code and
therefore i consider the Sun open sourcing of StarOffice quite useless
- especially since they explicitly reserve the right to retract these
license conditions afterwards.
Any open source developer contributing code to Sun under these
circumstances is therefore betraying himself and the free software
community because the only party gaining will be Sun.
It don't mean a thing if it ain't got that DFSG swing. ;-)
Cheers, P. *8^)
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From: Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,de.comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Password protected web page
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 22:30:20 +0200
Claude Viau wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I've been trying to figure out how to secure a web page using .htaccess and
> htpasswd. Any specific permission must go on the /home/.. folders or on
> the
> folder that is protected. I always get the same error "Authorization
> failed", as though it couldn't find the path AuthUserFile or something.
>
> I'm still VERY new at this.
> Thanks for your help.
>
> Claude
take a look in the documentation and faq of Apache.
you've to make a PassWd File of your own for Apache. And this you have to use.
It has nothing to do with the *ix /etc/passwd File.
You can define all or a specific folder [with it's subfolder's as protected].
If you're runing cgi's: Don't forget to protect them too [don't forget the same I did
:-]
Have fun
Martin
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From: Michel Catudal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Any Support for PCI Modems?
Date: 1 Sep 1999 21:44:01 -0500
Jeremy wrote:
>
> Hi!
> I Just got a PCI Modem and found out that they are not supported at all
> in Linux. Is there anyone who is looking into that? This is not a
> winmodem (it does not say "winmodem", but it says you need windoze) If
> there is going to be support, I will keep it, if not, I guess I will
> have to get rid of it. If PCI Modems are not supported, what other PCI
> cards are not? controllers, sound, ect.... I was trying to free up a
> ISA slot.
>
Of course it won't say winmodem when it's not made by 3-Com (US
Robotics)
since winmodem is trademaked.
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