Linux-Misc Digest #645, Volume #20 Tue, 15 Jun 99 14:13:08 EDT
Contents:
Re: xfig under RH6.0 (Brian V. Smith)
Re: SuSE 6.1 ok to buy ? (Bryan)
Re: firewall login (Michel Bardiaux)
Netscape - Old? (John Hong)
Re: 2 newbie questions! (Larry)
Re: Which Databases are available for Linux (":)")
Re: A Capitalists view of freedom ("James T. Boylan")
Re: Which Databases are available for Linux (James Youngman)
Re: Fortran on Linux (James Youngman)
Re: Linux jingle ("Drew M. Mooney")
Re: What are the differences between mySQL and mSQL? ("Anthony W. Youngman")
Telnet in as root! ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: A Capitalists view of freedom (Richard Hickling)
Re: A Capitalists view of freedom (Richard Hickling)
Re: Repartition EXT2 without data loss? (Robert Heller)
Re: Linux Shop in London? (Lyndon Hills)
Capturing from sb line-in port (Tom Ford)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Brian V. Smith)
Subject: Re: xfig under RH6.0
Date: 15 Jun 1999 16:05:32 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Paul Tomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
writes:
|> When running xfig under RH6, I get the following message when I select a
|> color:
|>
|> "Switching to private colormap.
|> Can't allocate necessary colorcells, can't popup color panel"
|>
|>
|> If I select a color again, the xfig exits with a core dump.
You didn't say which version of xfig you have, but it sounds like you have 3.1.4,
which doesn't handle anything except the 8-bit PseudoColor visual.
You should get 3.2.2 from ftp://epb1.lbl.gov/xfig. Be sure to get transfig from
there too.
--
========================================================
Brian V. Smith ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) http://www-epb.lbl.gov/BVSmith
Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory
I don't speak for LBL; they don't pay me enough for that.
Check out the xfig site at http://www-epb.lbl.gov/xfig
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From: Bryan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: SuSE 6.1 ok to buy ?
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 11:40:23 -0500
I bought SuSE 6.1 for the same reason...cheaper than Redhat 6.0. I have
not had very many problems and the 5 CDs is loaded with enough software
and package options to make me happy for a very long time.
-Bryan
Raghu Yedatore wrote:
> I am new to the Linux world. When I assembled my PC, I set a 2Gig
> partition
> aside for Linux.
>
> I can buy SuSE 6.1 for $30.00. I missed the thread on the same topic by
> Dave Brown because
> those articles had expired. RH6.0 costs about 70 bucks.
>
> With SuSE, I'll also get CDs for StarOffice5.0.
>
> Is it ok to use install SuSE ? or Should I go RH6.0 way ?
>
> Thanks for any suggestions.
>
> Raghu
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From: Michel Bardiaux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.security
Subject: Re: firewall login
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 19:22:44 +0200
David Means wrote:
>
> Jeremy Douglas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > I am trying to figure out how to login to the firewall and then and only
> > then allow access to other computers and services on the network. I
> > also want this to occure when a person tries to login using telnet and
> > ftp. With telnet and ftp I want to be able to conferm access to the
> > network before the usual telnet and ftp login occures.
> >
> > Is there any program, freeware, or setup in either Redhat 6.0 or Socks5
> > that are able to do this.
>
> The most direct way to do this is to establish accounts on the firewall
> machine (or you can use NIS to keep the actual data somewhere else),
> and allow telnet and ftp only to that machine, not through it. This will
> insure that any session that originates outside your firewall is validated
> before it is given access to any internal stuff. However, this can be fairly
> awkward for your users, depending on what services they want to gain
> access to on your internal network, so you should work through the
> scenarios with some of them before following this course.
Something as insecure as NIS from a firewall to an internal net? Don't.
Ever.
For any reason you might think of. Even FTP from firewall to internal
should
be disallowed!
As a rule, services provided byy a firewall are provided either on
itself,
or on some other 'sacrificial' machine on a network with the firewall -
but
*not* a network connected to the internal net.
The only reasonable way to allow login from the Internet to a machine on
an internal net is via a *secure* tunnel, like SSH.
--
Michel Bardiaux
UsrConsult S.P.R.L. Rue Margot, 37 B-1457 Nil St Vincent
Tel : +32 10 65.44.15 Fax : +32 10 65.44.10
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hong)
Subject: Netscape - Old?
Date: 14 Jun 1999 22:55:36 GMT
Anyone know if older versions of Netscape like 2.02, 3.01, etc.
are still available in RPM format?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Larry)
Subject: Re: 2 newbie questions!
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 15 Jun 1999 11:38:32 -0600
On Sun, 13 Jun 1999 23:24:59 -0500, root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>> In his obvious haste, [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled thusly:
>> : I know it's supposed to go in .bash_profile or .tcshrc, but I couldn't find any
>> : of those file any where in my linux directory. 'find / -name .bash_profile
>> : -print' and 'find / -name .tcshrc -print' return nothing.
>>
>> If they're not there, just create them....
>> Put whatever config options you want in them.
>>
>> Problem solved...
>>
>
>Sound easy, but not for a newbie. I don't even know where to begin. :(
>
Look in /etc/profile by using the command: "less profile" that will bring up
the contents of the profile file.
Which distribution are you using? Redhat, Slackware..?
I use slackware and the file is called .profile redhat may be different.
In your home directory, which should be /home/yourname or whatever you named
your home directory, you can create the .profile file by using an editor. I
use joe, it's simple and works great for easy file editing.
Just type "joe .profile" (without quotes) and the editor just created the
file. put whatever you want in there and save and the file is created and
saved.
What I did was copy the /etc/profile file to my home directory like this:
cp /etc/profile /home/myname/.profile
Then began editing this file to suit me. That way you can leave your root
profile as basic as necessary and build your home .profile to do all the
heavy work.
You can set your paths and everything in the .profile. When I build programs
on my system all the paths and everything pertaining to those programs are
in my .profile instead of the root profile. I don't have any programs built
for the root user, it is purely used for maintenance. No gui no nothin'.
In fact I build all programs as user and only install them as root.
do 'man less' to learn about the file reader 'less'
'man joe' to learn about joe file editor.
Some handy commands to know for a newbie:
apropos;
Use this command to find man pages (if any exist), say you don't
know how to find the man page for the Linux command that pertains to the old
dos command "dir", try: 'apropos dir' and lo and behold there is a listing
of man pages with dir in there right with the ls command.
man apropos for more.
Locate;
This locates files on your system. your system should be either running all
the time or you have to setup locatedb to run when you are on the computer.
anyway just type 'locate profile' and all the profiles on the system will
come up with the directories they are in. This command requires locatedb to
run once a day because it updates only when updatedb runs and that is
usually a cron job at night. 'man cron, locatedb, and locate' to learn more.
alias:
put this in your .profile like this:
alias d='ls -la'
alias dir='ls'
That way you can alias the old dos commands to the new Linux commands if
that makes it easier for you. You can alias your brains out in here.
I have a couple of neat ones that make the command line commands talk when I
do a "cls" or a "dir". On my machine I have aliased a script file that
calls a .wav file that causes the dir command to say "files accessed" when I
do a dir from the command line. cls says simply: "working". I did this with:
alias dir='accessed;ls -la |more' and
alias cls='working;clear'
These call the respective script files containing the .wav commands then
the commands to do dir and cls. The scripts are punched into the background
with the & operator in the scripts so there won't be a delay waiting on the
scripts to finish before the real commands are called.
Your gonna love linux.
The important thing to remember is to READ READ READ!!!!!!!
MAN THIS, MAN THAT, MAN YOUR SHORTS OFF. hahahahahaha
bye
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From: ":)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Which Databases are available for Linux
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 09:47:00 -0700
Sean Yamamoto wrote:
> John Edstrom wrote:
> > Oracle 8 also runs under linux but isn't opensource and costs
> > money for non-personal use. I think private, non-commercial use is
> > free, or did I get that wrong?
>
> You are wrong. Oracle does not give their software away to
> private individuals, governments, not-for-profit organizations,
> churches, etc. Larry Ellison did not build a Fortune 500 software
> superpower (and make himself a billionaire) by being this charitable.
Oracle does give away free software. Like their Oracle server and client,
and some other stuffs.
Check out: http://technet.oracle.com/software/download.htm
Alex Lam.
e mail: lamalexATjunoDOTcom
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From: "James T. Boylan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: A Capitalists view of freedom
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 10:32:44 -0700
>>> This discussion is going nowhere. The bottom line is that the US
Constitution,
>>> 2nd Amendment, gives me the right to "keep and bear arms." End of story.
>>> I really doesn't matter what the world, or the country for that matter,
would
>>> be like without guns. It's a done deal. Generate an amendment to the
>>> Constitution to change things or quit whining.
>
>An interesting question to ponder: Does that particular law also give
>US citizens the right to bear (their own privately-obtained) *nuclear*
>(or biological or chemical) arms? Should the NRA extend its slogan to
>"Atomic bombs don't kill people, people do"? (Or perhaps in the wake of
>the Tokyo subway attack, "Sarin doesn't kill people, people do".)
>
>Note that the NRA _does_ advocate that private US citizens should be
>permitted to own machine guns. I believe they also extend this to
>tanks and antitank rockets, though I'm not certain of this.
>
>But strangely, even Americans who strongly favor private gun ownership
>usually seem to draw the line at private nuclear/biological/chemical
>"arms". It's interesting to ponder why...
Another important note to the statement on the Second Amendment Right.
Although it is often applied to the individual, it is more applicable to
various orginizations, ie Militias. But it does in many off ways still apply
to the individual.
This amendment does NOT apply to the bearing weapons of mass destruction.
Machine guns, automatic weapons, etc. All of these are covered as personal
protection. The right to bear arms is speaking of items that are for use in
protecting yourself, your family, your friends and your country.
Now. More importantly than that. Not only does that amandment not cover
weapons of mass destruction, but the Geneva convention banned not only the
construction, sale or use of Biological and chemical weapons. But even
moreso, the ownership of such. I hate to break this news to the people who
would for some reason actually feel 'safer' with a large
biological/chemical/nuclear weapon stored under their house. But if you are
found in possession of such. You will most likely not be seen for a very
long time. If every again.
The government tends to not treat lightly people who break international
treaties and the agreements that are there so that not only people are safe,
but so that this planet continues to actually be able to continue supporting
life. Which, in all honesty, is something that is risked severely should
biological/chemical and even nuclear weapons are used.
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From: James Youngman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Which Databases are available for Linux
Date: 14 Jun 1999 21:13:59 +0100
Al <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Which databases are available for Linux?
At least:-
PostgreSQL
mSQL
mySQL
GNU SQL
Oracle 8.0.5
Oracle 8i
Ingres
Empress
IBM DB/2
FairCom c-tree Plus
Interbase 5
I'm sure that there are many more. (Sybase and /rdb for example, are
probably available for Linux).
> I want to connect Java to the database.
Most of these have JDBC drivers.
--
ACTUALLY reachable as @free-lunch.demon.(whitehouse)co.uk:james+actually
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From: James Youngman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Fortran on Linux
Date: 14 Jun 1999 21:14:41 +0100
"Robert J. Schweikert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Anyone working on a Fortran compiler for Linux?
>
> Or is there one already?
g77. Comes with most distributions. As does f2c. There are
commercial f90 (and I think f95) implementations.
--
ACTUALLY reachable as @free-lunch.demon.(whitehouse)co.uk:james+actually
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From: "Drew M. Mooney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: aus.computers.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux jingle
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 12:50:20 -0400
How about just asking:
"where did you THINK you wanted to go today?"
James Beard wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>Hi all.
>
>Is there is a Linux jingle? A catchy little tune?
>
>Our sysadmin was installing NT yesterday and having heaps of problems.
>I thought of how sweet it would have been if I could have been standing
>beside him, whistling the Linux theme.
>
>We have the penguin, and the slogans. What we need now is a tune.
>Either an original or a rehash of an existing piece. Any budding
>composers out there?
>
>Later
>James
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From: "Anthony W. Youngman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.lang.java.databases
Subject: Re: What are the differences between mySQL and mSQL?
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 00:19:38 +0100
Reply-To: "Anthony W. Youngman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
In article <7k1vru$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, orc@p.? writes
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>Don Baccus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>In article <ViA53.1666$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>>bryan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>>again, like I said, with multiple writers contending for common
>>>resources, yes you're right. for the "one writer, many readers" you
>>>do NOT need xactions.
>>
>>Not necessarily true. If you have several related tables
>>that need to be logically updated at once, the atomicity of
>>the transactional model is, well, useful if there's a crash
>>while records are being inserted or updated.
>
> Denormalize, denormalize, denormalize.
>
> Yeah, you might bloat your rdb by a factor of 10 to do this,
> but disk and core is getting cheap these days.
>
Or use a SQL-capable multi-value database instead...
Unfortunately, I don't know of an Open Source one that actually exists
right now (I'm leading the project trying to write one).
mvDBMS has a lot going for it over SQL, it's just not the "buzzword of
the month" :-(
--
Anthony W. Youngman - wol at thewolery dot demon dot co dot uk
Trousers with a single hole in their waistband are topologically equivalent
to a doughnut. These sugarcoated trousers have yet to catch on at fast-food
outlets! (SuperStrings by F. David Peat)
If replying by e-mail please mail wol. Anything else may get missed amongst
the spam.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Telnet in as root!
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 16:09:30 GMT
I'm sure the reason that you can't initially telnet into a linux box as
root is for security reasons, but is there anyway to make it where you
can configure it so you can telnet in as root. (I'd really like to do
that instead of creating another account and then running su)
Thanks!
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Share what you know. Learn what you don't.
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From: Richard Hickling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: A Capitalists view of freedom
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 18:46:26 +0200
> This discussion is going nowhere. The bottom line is that the US Constitution,
> 2nd Amendment, gives me the right to "keep and bear arms." End of story.
> I really doesn't matter what the world, or the country for that matter, would
> be like without guns. It's a done deal. Generate an amendment to the
> Constitution to change things or quit whining.
This is what it always comes down to: entrenched immovable laws. Some aspects of
the US legislative system are now out-of-date and have fallen behind more
progressive and versatile systems overseas. Time for a spring cleaning.
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From: Richard Hickling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: A Capitalists view of freedom
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 18:46:13 +0200
> This discussion is going nowhere. The bottom line is that the US Constitution,
> 2nd Amendment, gives me the right to "keep and bear arms." End of story.
> I really doesn't matter what the world, or the country for that matter, would
> be like without guns. It's a done deal. Generate an amendment to the
> Constitution to change things or quit whining.
This is what it always comes down to: entrenched immovable laws. Some aspects of
the US legislative system are now out-of-date and have fallen behind more
progressive and versatile systems overseas. Time for a spring cleaning.
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From: Robert Heller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Repartition EXT2 without data loss?
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 17:05:00 GMT
(Posted and E-Mailed)
Joe Robertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
In a message on Tue, 15 Jun 1999 10:30:57 -0500, wrote :
JR> Greets.. I am running a server with a moderate amount of users.. we have
JR> installed disk quotas, but unfortunately we have put everything on 1
JR> partition. That means that any user who is over his/her quota, once
JR> expired, will not be able to receive any more e-mail, because the quota
JR> affects the mailbox size as well.
JR> Therefore, I would like to reduce this filesystem by about 1GB, and move
JR> /var to a new filesystem, without quotas. Is this possible, and how? I've
JR> fooled around in fdisk, but I'm afraid to do anything.. there's no
JR> clear-cut path on this issue(as far as fdisk mans go).
There is no really good way to do this, short of a backup and restore.
What you need to do is make a backup and then re-partition the disk,
re-install Linux and then restore the backup.
(I have heard that Partition Magic will work, but it is also known to
totally trash your file system.)
If you are running a multi-user 'server' system, you really need at
least 4 partitions for your linux system. I work at UMass in the CVRL.
We have a whole pile of Linux boxes. We generally use a partition scheme
like this:
/dev/sda1 64meg /
/dev/sda2 64-128meg swap
/dev/sda3 1-1.5gig /usr
/dev/sda4 <extended (rest of disk)>
/dev/sda5 64meg /var
/dev/sda6 *rest of disk* /home
(/var/spool/mail is NFS mounted from another system and we don't run
news, and yes, all but three boxes are SCSI boxes, generally with 4gig
or larger disks.)
On my home box, which is a FidoNet node (ifmail+sendmail+inn), it is
partitioned like this:
Disk /dev/sdc: 64 heads, 32 sectors, 4340 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 2048 * 512 bytes
Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/sdc1 1 65 66544 83 Linux native
/dev/sdc2 66 130 66560 82 Linux swap
/dev/sdc3 131 1155 1049600 83 Linux native
/dev/sdc4 1156 4340 3261440 5 Extended
/dev/sdc5 1156 1220 66544 83 Linux native
/dev/sdc6 1221 1477 263152 83 Linux native
/dev/sdc7 1478 2502 1049584 83 Linux native
/dev/sdc8 2503 3527 1049584 83 Linux native
/dev/sdc9 3528 4340 832496 83 Linux native
sauron.deepsoft.com% mount | grep sdc
/dev/sdc1 on / type ext2 (rw)
/dev/sdc7 on /home type ext2 (rw)
/dev/sdc8 on /home2 type ext2 (rw)
/dev/sdc9 on /home3 type ext2 (rw)
/dev/sdc3 on /usr type ext2 (rw)
/dev/sdc5 on /var type ext2 (rw)
/dev/sdc6 on /var/spool type ext2 (rw)
(The multiple 1gig /home* directories is a convenience hack for my 4mm
tape drive.)
This sort of setup might seem complex at first, but it saves lots of
hassle down the road.
JR>
JR> Please Cc an e-mail reply.
JR>
JR> Thanks!
JR>
JR> Joe
JR>
JR>
--
\/
Robert Heller ||InterNet: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://vis-www.cs.umass.edu/~heller || [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.deepsoft.com /\FidoNet: 1:321/153
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From: Lyndon Hills <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux Shop in London?
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 18:17:15 +0100
neil tingley wrote:
>
> Thorsten Nicklaus wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> > next Weekend I'm in London. I search for a good Linux Shop. My B&B is near
> > Oxford Street.
> >
> > Please help me.
> >
>
> Go to Tottenham court road,, walk up on the right hand side and go into Micro
> Ankika. They sell RH and other linuxes. Other shops will stock it but they
> charge more - one was trying to get 90 pounds for RH when Micro Anvika charge
> aBOUT 50.
>
> Neil
>
> --
> -------------------------------------------
> Neil Tingley - Excite UK
> Web Production Engineer
> +44 171 447 1850 - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> "Wine is cool"
If you're around on Saturday there is almost always a computer fair on.
Go North up Tottenham Ct Rd on the right hand side. Take the 1st right
after Oxford St (YMCA on the corner - Great Russell Street?). On the
right side of this road is a large 'hotel' which will have a sign
outside. I think it costs a couple of UK PNDS to get in. Not
specifically linux but folk will be selling loads of hardware, some
books and cds, including linux bits & bobs. Do not rely on credit cards
- many will only take cash/cheques.
HTH
Lyndon
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From: Tom Ford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Capturing from sb line-in port
Date: 15 Jun 1999 00:28:07 +0100
Greetings,
No mention in this in the FAQs and a quick search of the net revealed lots
of people asking the same question and no answers :(
Basically, by reading from /dev/dsp I can get the microphone input, but
this is of a low quality. The good quality line-in I can't seem to get;
devices.txt was of no help in locating the device.
Ideas would be appreciated.
Tom
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