Linux-Misc Digest #750, Volume #18               Mon, 25 Jan 99 02:13:07 EST

Contents:
  Re: Linux or FreeBSD? (Timothy J. Lee)
  mediaplayer? ("ahmarn")
  I'm looking for a good (But not the most expensive) CD-RW (Laurence Brockman)
  where did they have been installed? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Boot question ("Alex Silov")
  GNOME -- db2html (Scott Norris)
  Re: Linux or FreeBSD? (Timothy J. Lee)
  Re: Installing a WinModem under Linux (Bill Unruh)
  Re: Installing a WinModem under Linux (Howard Mann)
  Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class. (Gregory Byrd)
  Re: Deleting Directories (Stuart R. Fuller)
  Sendmail ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Linux keyboard? (For emacs use) ("Mark A. Flacy")
  Re: Rh 5.2 and SB AWE 32 PnP freezing ("Justin Ryan [PHT]")
  Re: StarOffice and Microsoft Office (Bob Warshawsky)
  Mesa (Mark Robinson)
  need help? ("Scott Chu")
  Re: Netscape Communicator 4.5 (128bit) problem (Rajat Datta)
  Re: Linux or FreeBSD? (Ken)
  Re: Partition Table Mess ("Justin Ryan [PHT]")

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Crossposted-To: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Timothy J. Lee)
Subject: Re: Linux or FreeBSD?
Reply-To: see-signature-for-email-address---junk-not-welcome
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 04:41:01 GMT

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (steve mcadams) writes:
|Yes, I think NT is easy to set up; hell, I think ALL of the Microsoft
|stuff is easy to set up.  Why?  Because I've been installing their
|stuff for 5 years is why.  I have no clue anymore how easy or hard it
|would be for a newbie; I certainly had a helluva time getting Win 3.1
|installed when I was a newbie there.  I can set up NT on a green
|system in about 45 minutes simply because I've had a whole lot of
|practice at doing it.

I've found that installing Linux computers, _including_ site localizations,
patches, security fixes, printer configuration, etc. is far easier than
installing Microsoft Windows NT computers.  That's because most of the
extra postinstall stuff on Linux is easily scriptable, whereas the same
stuff has to be done manually, with lots of rebooting.  It is true that
installing a default configuration for Microsoft Windows NT is easy (but 
considerable work watching, rebooting, answering questions, etc.), but
not everyone wants a default configuration (e.g. every recent Microsoft
Windows NT CD that I've seen installs 4.0 with service pack 1, rather
than 3).

Least work of all is a new Solaris install.  Edit a few files and run a
few scripts on the Jumpstart server, "boot net - install" on the new
computer, come back a little while later, and the computer is ready to
use, with site localizations, patches security fixes, printer configuration,
etc.  all done according to your scripts (of course, there is work at
the beginning to set it all up, but it means less work later).  I understand
Red Hat has something like it, but I haven't found good documentation on
it yet.

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From: "ahmarn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: mediaplayer?
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 11:39:24 +0700

Dear all,
I would like to know if there is any programm to play mpeg movie file like
program "Xingplayer" on Linux?



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From: Laurence Brockman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: I'm looking for a good (But not the most expensive) CD-RW
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 22:10:37 -0700

Anyone know of a good CD-RW for linux? I know that the HP CD-RW is
supported but are there others (Acer, Sony)? Also, what is a good 3Dfx
card for Linux?

Thanks,
Laurence

--
Laurence Brockman
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: where did they have been installed?
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 04:58:05 GMT

Hello,  My Red Hat Linux 5.2 and some accompanying software such as Perl were
installed by my friend. I don't know in which directory Perl and gcc compiler
have been installed.  Is there any commnand in Linux to search for it like
dos 's dir/s ? If no, how can I know where did they have been installed?

      Thanks  a lot ! Pls reply me in E-mail.

Emily

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From: "Alex Silov" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Boot question
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 20:49:44 PST
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.misc,comp.os.linux.help

    I made a rather stupid mistake tonight.  I changed files
"HOSTNAME" and "hosts" located in /etc manually to my intended
host and domain names (from localhost and localdomain).
Without a second thought, I logged out the system.  It refuses
to boot anymore (just hangs there after certain point).
Reason: Cannot find the local host name!

    My question is: Is there a way that I can boot the system
without lose the data (there are a lot).

    My system is Redhat 5.0.

    Many thanks!


Alex

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From: Scott Norris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: GNOME -- db2html
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 03:49:24 GMT

1)  I am rather a linux newbie, but I am compiling GNOME from CVS, and
it requires an obscure script called db2html. Anyone know where to find
it? I'm running RH 5.1.

2)  If this is not the right place to ask about GNOME, I at least
considered it a good place to start. Is there a good place to get GNOME
help from others using it?

3)  There does not seem to be a GNOME newsgroup, but there ought to be.
Enough people are getting into it now, and we could use a group. What
would be involved in starting one?


This is my first post, but I've seen nothing but good things about the
Linux community. Linux rocks, as do all of who out there make it more
than a piece of software.

thanks for your help,
scott norris

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Crossposted-To: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Timothy J. Lee)
Subject: Re: Linux or FreeBSD?
Reply-To: see-signature-for-email-address---junk-not-welcome
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 04:31:36 GMT

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (steve mcadams) writes:
|For ease of setup I don't think that there's any question that NT is
|easier to install than any Linux I have seen to date (and I think
|Caldera is the only one I haven't tried yet of the major dists).
|
|Once you get them set up, if there's a particular thing you need to
|configure, either one involves a certain amount of arcana.

Microsoft Windows NT is easy to set up by just accepting the defaults
(but it is annoying if you have to do it repeatedly, as in installing
numerous computers, since the setup process is so interactive).  However,
the defaults do not lend themselves to easy long term system management.
For example, user profiles / desktops and home directory defaults when
making new users do not make a lot of sense, and many applications like
to mix up the application and user configuration and data, instead of
just putting the user configuration in the user's home directory.  Also,
it is not always possible to install some driver or protocol but leave
it off, which means that one has to reload from the CD every time one
wants to turn the protocol back on after turning it off (which removes
it).

-- 
========================================================================
Timothy J. Lee                                                   timlee@
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh)
Subject: Re: Installing a WinModem under Linux
Date: 25 Jan 1999 06:23:32 GMT

In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Martin Gillett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>Has anyone ever successfully gotten a WinModem Such as
>USR 56K to work under Linux. If so.... How?

Sorry. Cannot be done. No one has bothered towrite a driver for
winmodems. A Winmodem removes at least 100MHZ from the speed of your
processor. (Thats a lot more than the $20 you save by buying a
winmodem).Also reportedly the manufacturers refuse to release the specs
for their winmodems. 

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From: Howard Mann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Installing a WinModem under Linux
Date: 25 Jan 1999 04:43:29 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
        Martin Gillett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Hi 
> 
> Has anyone ever successfully gotten a WinModem

 No

> Such asUSR 56K to work under Linux. 

Not all US Robotics modems are Winmodems.

Peruse :  http://www.o2.net/~gromitkc/winmodem.html


Cheers,

-- 
Howard Mann
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.xmission.com/~howardm
(a LINUX website for newbies)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Gregory Byrd)
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class.
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 05:24:28 GMT

>Chris Allen wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>>Will Brickles wrote:
>>>
>>> Chris Snyder wrote in message ...
>>> >I agree.  I heard that NT5(win2000) will require a Pentium 2 and 128 MB
>>> RAM.
>>> >I'm currently running Linux on a 486SX 25 with 16MB RAM
>>> >
>>>
>>> Wrong, I have NT5.0 Beta 2 and the requirements for Server is 64 MB and
>>> Workstation is 32 (I believe, maybe 16).
>>>

Win 2000 runs slow as molasses with a K-6/2 350 MHz  32 Mb ram,
2940U2W Wide SCSI-2 hd.  Based on that 64 Mb ram for Workstation
MIGHT be enough - I wouldn't want to try it without 128 or more.

Nah.  I wouldn't want to try it at any price.  That's why I'm HERE
now....

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stuart R. Fuller)
Subject: Re: Deleting Directories
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 23:00:04 GMT

Jeff Grossman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: Hello,
: 
: Is it possible to delete directories that are not empty?  rmdir will
: only delete empty directories.

In addition to the other followups I've seen, I should point out that if
"rmdir" won't remove a non-empty directory, the way to get it to work is to
EMPTY THE DIRECTORY.

        Stu

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Sendmail
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 06:35:07 GMT

I just installed sendmail and a caching only DNS server now when i
send a mail from my linux server it says this:

The original message was received at Sun, 24 Jan 1999 16:21:30 -0700
from CALCLAB.PIE.EDU [199.86.23.112]

   ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----
   ----- Transcript of session follows -----
... while talking to mail.pie.edu.:  
>>>> MAIL From:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> SIZE=241
><<< 501 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... Sender domain must exist
>501 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... Data format error
>
>    [ Part 2: "Delivery Status" ]
>
>Reporting-MTA: dns; alclab.pie.edu
>Received-From-MTA: DNS; CALCLAB.PIE.EDU
>Arrival-Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 16:21:30 -0700
>
>Final-Recipient: RFC822; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Action: failed
>Status: 5.5.2
>Remote-MTA: DNS; mail.pie.edu
>Diagnostic-Code: SMTP; 501 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... Sender domain must exist
>Last-Attempt-Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 16:21:31 -0700<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>



I know i mispelled CALC.PIE.EDU as ALC.PIE.EDU but where ??

I have checked "/etc/sendmail.cf", "/etc/sendmail.cw",
"/etc/HOSTANAME", "/etc/named.conf", "/etc/hosts", "/etc/host.conf",
"/var/named/pz/127.0.0", "/var/named/199.86.23",
"/var/named/calclab.pie.edu" 

anyidea where that misspelled name is at ??

thanks,
GS

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From: "Mark A. Flacy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.misc,comp.emacs,comp.editors
Subject: Re: Linux keyboard? (For emacs use)
Date: 24 Jan 1999 23:48:10 -0600

>>>>> "Erik" == Erik Naggum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Erik> | Your lack of capitalization would imply that you're unlearned, but
Erik> I | really don't think that you give a flying f**k what I think.
Erik>
Erik>   thank you for sparing me the need to tell you.  but "unlearned"?
Erik>   really?  the criterion for being "unlearned" is not capitalizing
Erik>   the first word of sentences and thereby destroying a significant
Erik>   property of that word?  I find it quite fascinating to see what
Erik>   people base their prejudices on.  somehow, this fellow thinks
Erik>   capitalization implies learned/unlearned.  

Nice try.  Standard English rules that are taught in schools teach one to
capitalize the first word of a sentence. You don't do that. *Assuming that
someone knows nothing else about you*, the immediate conclusion is that you
didn't learn that particular lession.  That makes you "unlearned".  Please
note that "unlearned" does not equate to "stupid."

Is that too simple for you to understand?


Erick>  somehow, this fellow

"this fellow" has a name.

Erik>   thinks he has the right accuse people of things they don't do and
Erik>   attack them for problems they don't have, but he would have had in
Erik>   the same situation because he's of limited intellect.  presumably,
Erik>   this is what it's like to be his sort of "learned."  one can only
Erik>   assume that some other innocuous, irrelevant issue is sufficient to
Erik>   judge them, as well.  take skin color, for instance.

Not bad. An attack against the person in less than one paragraph.

No, it is sufficient for me to notice that your opinions on non-emacs
issues aren't worth noting.  I view your lack of capitalization an
indication of lack of atttention to detail.  You appear to take some
effort to get the grammar correct (no small task), but you don't take the
effort to get the capitalization correct.

Assuming that you expect your posts to be read.

Erik>
Erik> | And when it comes to non-programming issues, I really don't give a
Erik> f**k | about how clever you think you are for writing in that
Erik> fashion.  So | perhaps we are in reflexive agreement.
Erik>
Erik>   I think I lost you somewhere.  I must assume that you think you're
Erik>   clever when you "discover" an anomaly like abbreviations and then
Erik>   make a point out of demonstrating that _you_ have negative
Erik>   willingness to understand how _I'd_ deal with that, and therefore
Erik>   _I'm_ unlearned.  I think it's the other way around.  instead, you
Erik>   _impute_ to me a fault that is entirely your own, and then you go
Erik>   all huffy and puffy about it.  I prefer the criterion fo
Erik>   learned/unlearned to be the ability to deal with information that
Erik>   runs counter to one's expectations.  unlearned people tend to focus
Erik>   on irrelevant details.  again, skin color comes to mind.

My, you have a thing about skin color don't you?  Would you care to guess
mine?  Upon what basis do you make that guess?  

All that I know about you is from your posts.  You *choose* to violate
standard English capitalization standards.  The average English speaking
lurker is going to assume (prior to reading anything in detail) that you do
not *know* how to capitalize correctly.

Hey, if that's what you want to portray, fine.  It seems rather sloppy on
your part.

Erik>   I don't use periods after your abbreviations.

That's non-standard.

Erik>   I use two spaces
Erik>   after sentence-ending punctuation.  

Cool.  Perhaps you've had some type of typing class.  Or is that the norm
for Norwegian typing?


Erik>   I don't break a line after
Erik>   punctuation marks that would have terminated a sentence in error
Erik>   had the line been broken there.  

This is unclear.  Would you give an example?

Erick> ,thank you for asking.

Why is there a leading ","?

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From: "Justin Ryan [PHT]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup,linux.redhat.install,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: Rh 5.2 and SB AWE 32 PnP freezing
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 21:31:47 -0600

as far as configuring isapnp, TurboLinux has turbopnpcfg, a nice util for
automatically or custom configuring your isa pnp devices and initializing
them.. it also has turbosoundcfg which helps configure sound..
-justin

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Internet/Developer Relations Associate
Pacific HiTech / TurboLinux
http://www.turbolinux.com/
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Carlos M. Fern�ndez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I don't know exactly what could be wrong there. I can tell that your
isapnp is
> working fine (you can reconfigure it yourself just to be sure. Do "pnpdump
> >/etc/isapnp.conf" and edit the generated file to suit your tastes). The
> problem with sfxload is just that it's not in the PATH; startup scripts
usually
> have a limited path environment. Just go to /etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit, look for
> sfxload, and change the pathname. Finally, I can only help with only one
thing
> with the module problem: make sure your /etc/conf.modules has the
following
> lines:
>
> alias sound sb
> alias midi awe_wave
>
> You could as well replace the 'midi' line with:
>
> post-install sound insmod awe_wave
> pre-remove sound rmmod awe_wave
>
> However, I believe RH's scripts load a 'midi' module, so the first
solution
> should be safe. Try both anyway, there's nothing to lose.
>
> Oh, now that I remember, pnpdump doesn't detect two ports in the wavetable
part
> of the soundcard. Your isapnp.conf's WaveTable section should look like
the
> following; just add I/Os 1 and 2:
>
> (CONFIGURE CTL00c1/408370142 (LD 2
> #     ANSI string -->WaveTable<--
> (IO 0 (SIZE 4) (BASE 0x0620))
> (IO 1 (SIZE 4) (BASE 0x0a20))
> (IO 2 (SIZE 4) (BASE 0x0e20))
> #     End dependent functions
>  (NAME "CTL00c1/408370142[2]{WaveTable           }")
> (ACT Y)
> ))
>
> Cheers.
>
> Ritchie wrote:
>
> > Well, I can help you a bit.  I had the same problem of the sfxload not
being
> > found, I looked and it was there, but the boot sequence looks for it in
/bin
> > and on my system, I found it in /usr/bin.  Maybe yours is the same.  I
> > copied it from /usr/bin to /bin and rebooted, it found the file and
didn't
> > give me the device busy error for awe_wave.o.  I can play .au files, but
no
> > luck playing .midi files yet.  If you succeed, let me know what you did.
> >
> > Al Kooz wrote in message <78aa8j$a25$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> > >Hi, I have a problem,
> > >I installed RH 5.2 on my system (for the 100th time now) and I've been
> > >trying to get my SB AWE 32 PnP to work... I used sndconfig, and it
seemed
> > to
> > >detect it right. It played the sample and closed with no error message.
> > Then
> > >I go start X and I'm perfectly able to play Audio Cd's... When I boot
> > >though, there's two error messages:
> > >            - First it's the sfxload that can't be found (although it's
> > >there, I checked it)
> > >            - Second, the awe_wave.o isn't able to be loaded it says
that
> > >the resource
> > >              or device is busy...
> > >
> > >That wouldn't bother me, unless I had following problem: Whenever I try
to
> > >play an mp3 file, the computer freezes. It didn't do that under Rh 5.1.
> > >Please help me. I also tried to connect to the
> > >ftp://ftp.redhat.com/pub/sound/. directory, but that seems to have been
> > >removed. Please help me.
> > >
> > >thanx
> > >
> > >Al
> > >
> > >
>
>
>
> --
> Carlos M. Fern�ndez, NP3IP.
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.tripod.com/~drag_on/
> "Mira que te mando que te esfuerces y seas valiente; no temas ni desmayes,
> porque Jehov� tu Dios estar� contigo en dondequiera que vayas," Josu� 1:9
>
>
>



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Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 20:14:59 -0800
From: Bob Warshawsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.sys.sun.apps
Subject: Re: StarOffice and Microsoft Office

Ian S. Nelson wrote:
> 
> 
> >
> > Of course, free versus $695.00 for Applixware is something to ponder....
> 
> I'm pretty sure you can get Applix a lot cheaper than that.
> 
> 
A number of folks have suggested this, and I'm sure they are right.
This, however,
was the price that was quoted to me for the entire Applixware suite for
Solaris
SPARC.

Perhaps those who know where to get it cheaply can enlighten this poor
sinner....LOL!!!

-S

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From: Mark Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Mesa
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 05:28:05 GMT

Can I get Mesa 3.0 in compiled RPM?


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From: "Scott Chu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: need help?
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 13:28:22 +0800

I've met with several problem but don't know how to resolve, please help:

1> our Linux server seems block too many network connections (not internet
connection, just local network), any way to expand the limit?

2>using win95 mail client to read mail but get 'already read error', and we
found there's a file with same name as username in /usr/tmp/.pop, if kill it
then re-read mail, it's ok, but come back with this phenomena frequently?

thanks in advance!

Scott




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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rajat Datta)
Subject: Re: Netscape Communicator 4.5 (128bit) problem
Date: 25 Jan 1999 05:51:06 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On 24 Jan 1999 03:20:29 GMT, Rajat Datta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On Thu, 21 Jan 1999 09:14:37 -0700,
>Patrick O'Neil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>Subsequently loading my homepage (http://tx.us.mirrors.freshmeat.net)
>>crashed Netscape as before.  This didn't happen before the freshmeat page
>>format change.
>
>I am getting this all the time.  With me, I can sometimes get access
>to Freshmeat, but other times Netscape will crash.  And this definitely
>started with the new Freshmeat format.
>
>I have RH5.2 and Netscape Communicator 4.5 with 128 bit encryption.  I
>have tried both the Linux 2.0 (glibc) and Linux 1.2 versions, as well
>as Netscape Navigator 4.08 and saw the same symptoms.

I was pointed to the first item in the freshmeat FAQ (thank you
"scoop") which states that this problem is solved by downloading
the netscape built for glib2 found under unsupported at the
netscape ftp site.  You can download from 
          ftp://ftp.netscape.com/pub/communicator/4.5/english/...
                 unix/unsupported/linux20_glibc2/

rajat

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Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 21:37:51 -0800
From: Ken <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: Linux or FreeBSD?

Dan McGregor wrote:
> 
> Ken wrote:
> 
> >  Do you still have to recompile FreeBSD to get it to recognize PS-2
> > style mouse?
> 
> It is in the generic kernel for 3.0-RELEASE.

-- snip --

 It also is in 2.2.6 as I happily found out today when installing it
on my wife's computer. The time I had trouble was with 2.2.1 (a long
time ago) but today was the first time I've installed FreeBSD since
2.2.1.

> I have been running Linux for over two years, and have never seen
> it crash.  FreeBSD I have been running for about 2 weeks and it has
> crashed about 6 or 7 times, I am sure however that when I get the
> kernel set up right it will work flawlessly :)
>

 I can get my Linux box to lock up fairly regularly when running
Mathematica. I want to try it on FreeBSD to see if I have the same
problem.
 
>  I like FreeBSD's /stand/sysinstall program, but I also like
> Debian's dselect program.  I think Linux is better suited for 
> the desktop while FreeBSD is a server.

 I'm partial to SuSE's yast myself. As for FreeBSD vs Linux, I like
them both and I'm very thankful I have a choice. I might have to try
NetBSD next.

Ken

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From: "Justin Ryan [PHT]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Partition Table Mess
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 21:40:35 -0600

NTFS partitions use unique SIDs and you can't just use any NTFS partition on
any NT system, that's part of the security.. there are ways to get around it
but I don't know how b/c I've never had to, try looking around the net..
have you trried running NT repair instead of installation? btw when you come
back to linux, give TurboLinux a shot ;p
-Justin

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Christopher Gorski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:94Pq2.5570$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I'm in big trouble - here's the problem:
>
> I originally installed Win95 on a 6+gig drive.  Because of FAT16
> limitations, I ended up with 3 two gig partitions and a 40 something meg
> drive.  I then installed WinNT on the third partition and made the last
two
> partitions NTFS.  Next, I got a second hard drive and hooked it up on a
> separate controller card and set up some FAT and NTFS filesystems on
there.
> Later on, I decided to install Linux, so I changed the middle partition on
> the first drive to a Linux native partition and swap partition.
>
> I decided to remove linux, and removed the middle partition.  I wanted to
> try out NT's fault tolerant file system, so I went into disk administrator
> hoping to mirror my third partition on the first drive (my original NT
> installation drive) with a partition on the second, newer hard drive. To
my
> amazement, I discovered that disk administrator believed that my NTFS
drive
> was 4 gigs, while the rest of the operating system believed it was 2 (so
did
> I).  I discovered that when I deleted Linux, it left the extended
partition
> marker way up near the end of the first partition on the drive, leaving
two
> gigs of empty space before the third NTFS partition.  This was confusing
NT.
>
> After playing around in Linux, I discovered that it wasn't going to help
> matters any. (at least with my limited knowledge of file systems.)  I got
a
> copy of the DISKEDIT.EXE program off the Norton Utilities CD that allowed
> you to directly edit the partition table on the drive.  I tried removing
the
> extended partition and doing some other things like using Win95 fdisk to
> place a FAT partition between the first partition and NT, but this didn't
> solve my problem.
>
> Here's where I killed NT:  My BIG mistake came when I used Partition Magic
> to solve my problems.  I was already wary of a program called "Partition
> Magic" yet failed to help me fix any partition problems when the slightest
> number was off in the partition table, nor did it let me edit the
partition
> tables directly.  I tried creating a FAT partition to fill in the empty
> space on the drive that was causing so many problems, and when PM forced
me
> to reboot, it deleted my NT boot loader!
>
> Now the NT Installation refuses to recognize my NTFS partition on the
drive.
> It says "unformatted or corrupted partition" or the like.  I don't have a
> rescue disk.  The one thing I do have is a copy of the partition table as
it
> originally was on paper, but even when I try setting the partition table
to
> its original state, the NT Installation still fails.
>
> I know the exact location of the beginning of the NT partition on the
drive
> and I know that the data is intact, but I just can't reach it.  What can I
> do?
>
> Please reply in the newsgroup only - I can only read my mail in NT.
>
> And yes, I _promise_ to reinstall Linux once this mess is over!  :)
>
> Thanks,
> Christopher Gorski
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
>
>



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