Linux-Misc Digest #750, Volume #25 Wed, 13 Sep 00 11:13:02 EDT
Contents:
Re: Zip 100 Parallel Port Drive ("Peter T. Breuer")
Re: Anyone want to be part of a new website...? (Ben Ranck)
sudo (Jos van t Hoff)
Re: Looking to enter the world of Linux... (David Rysdam)
df command excludes /mnt/floppy (astorwilliam)
Re: sndconfig (Mile Davidovic)
Re: soundblaster 128 pci setup help: kerenl 2.2.17 support? ("Rinaldi J. Montessi")
Re: sudo ("Peter T. Breuer")
Re: Wish for a writable ISO-9660 compatible filsystem (Tony Lawrence)
Re: How to set a user's TRAFFIC QUOTA?? (Tony Lawrence)
Re: Command error (Paul Kimoto)
Re: Looking to enter the world of Linux...
Re: Swapping a Linux into a new Computer. (ray)
user permissions ("Retro Grouch")
Re: Looking to enter the world of Linux... (John Hasler)
Re: un-eject a CD? Too far to walk over to shove it back in
Re: Windows or Linux for games? (Mav)
Re: Linksys Etherfast LNE100TX v4.0 ("Larry K. Brown")
Re: Adding RAM to RedHat Linux (David C.)
Re: calendar ("Jason")
Re: user permissions (Andreas Kahari)
Issues after upgrading to redhat 6.2 ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Dialup and Lease line ("Retro Grouch")
Re: Looking to enter the world of Linux... (Mav)
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: Zip 100 Parallel Port Drive
Date: 13 Sep 2000 11:19:20 GMT
In comp.os.linux.misc Kasper Dupont <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: Peter T. Breuer wrote:
:> In comp.os.linux.misc Kasper Dupont <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
:> : also think it would be a very strange choice to
:> : configure new computers for old broken software
:> : instead of configuring them for the new and more
:> : effective ones.
:> (this is one of the things that mswin sometimes does right btw; its
:> settings by default are very conservative).
: There is quite a difference. Many people wants
: to use ancient software on a new OS. But hardly
: no one wants to use an ancient OS on a new
: computer.
I don't get the point you are making (as opposed to the rhetoric, which,
however, seems a little vague too). When they sell you the OS, they
don't ask you what hardware and software you have first. It would be
silly to suppose you have the latest of everything, because you don't.
It would also be silly to suppose that the latest of everything works as
well as what went before, becuase in many dimensions of the measure, it
doesn't. It's simply todays advertised product as opposed to
yesterdays.
Peter
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Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 22:41:57 +1000
From: Ben Ranck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.m68k,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.portable,comp.os.linux.powerpc,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.redhat
Subject: Re: Anyone want to be part of a new website...?
You may wish to invest in a spell checker, I realize it's only a small thing,
but it can undermine the whole site. Bad spelling forces the viewer to ask
questions about the site's validity...
__
Benjamin Ranck
Software Engineer (Undergraduate)
http://members.optusnet.com.au/~ranck
_____________________________________
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From: Jos van t Hoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: sudo
Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 13:41:40 +0200
I installed sudo to let a non-root user use kppp. The problem is it only
works if you become the root user (using su) in the non-root user
session. I don't have to do anything as root, just login as root and
logout and then it works as should. But since I don't want to give
anyone else permission to become the root user, I'd like to know why
sudo doesn't work if you just login as a normal user.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Rysdam)
Subject: Re: Looking to enter the world of Linux...
Date: 13 Sep 2000 10:50:34 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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And Matt Cahill Spoke:
>
> Howdy,
>
> I'm looking to try-out Linux, but I'm sort of torn between Red Hat and
>Corel. I know that Red Hat has the apps and perhaps will give me more
>mileage in the long run (this is based on reviews, etc...), but Corel
>apparently has a very solid distrib and apparently it's also easy to
>install.
Actually, apps that run on RedHat will almost certainly run on any
distro.
> I'm a pretty confidant end-user...I like to tweak, and I can do so
>knowing full-well what can happen. I say this because I wonder: if
>Corel's main facet is it's ease of install, then perhaps I can handle Red
>Hat if it's got more under the hood?
I've never installed Corel's distro, but I've installed RedHat many
many times. I always do the "custom" install and even that is nearly
a no-brainer. Installing one of the preconfigured setups (server vs
workstation/etc) should be a snap, assuming your HW is supported.
> Any suggestions? And, in case anyone is wondering, this isn't meant to
>be some sort of vote-stuffing corporate promotion thing where I exclaim the
>benefits of one brand in the end.
I'm actually wondering why you whittled it down to the Corel and
RedHat only. What about SuSE, Mandrake, Turbo and Debian?
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From: astorwilliam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: df command excludes /mnt/floppy
Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 11:41:52 GMT
When I type the df command at the $ prompt, it gives the values of all
my partitions EXCEPT /mnt/floppy AS IT IS SUPPOSED TO. I have Linux
Mandrake 7.1 now but when I had LM7, I used to have all my floppies
display the values with the df command.
The df values are very useful because you will know how much remaining
memory space you have left.
PLEASE can someone provide an answer ?
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mile Davidovic)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: sndconfig
Date: 13 Sep 2000 12:13:58 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Check on www.oss.org.
On Fri, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>My pc runs Redhat6.0 and Win98. It has no plug and play sound card, but
>a Sound Max Integrated Digital Audio contraller by Anolog Devices Inc,
>which is built onto the mother board. The sound is brilliant on win98.
>However, under Redhat6.0, the controller can not be detected by
>`sndconfig', and also it's not on the card list; so I have to edit the
>file /etc/conf.modules myself. I am not sure how to change the file.
>Suggestions?
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From: "Rinaldi J. Montessi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: soundblaster 128 pci setup help: kerenl 2.2.17 support?
Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 08:16:27 -0400
Bill Piety wrote:
>
> In article <8pik69$5uo$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > hi folks
> >
> > i have a soundblaster 128pci card and looking at the specs for it, i
> > believe the sound chip is a es3100. i was hoping that someone could
> > confirm if they've successfully managed to setup that soundcard under
> > linux (with the stndard drvers that are in the kernel 2.2.17 source
> > tree)
> ><snip>
> http://www.alsa-project.org - this is a supported sound card. The 1370 will
> give you partial scratchy sound at best.
It could be an es1371 as well. There is a test you can run during the
make process. I found the 2.2.17 driver to work quite well, as well as
the alsa drivers. But it's one or the other. Alsa requires config with
sound support but no identified cards. I config with oss also..
--
Rinaldi]$
Here in Florida, we have a billion-dollar plan to teach third-grade
reading. We call it the 12th grade. (Stolen from Jay Leno)
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: sudo
Date: 13 Sep 2000 12:18:26 GMT
Jos van t Hoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: I installed sudo to let a non-root user use kppp. The problem is it only
: works if you become the root user (using su) in the non-root user
: session. I don't have to do anything as root, just login as root and
: logout and then it works as should. But since I don't want to give
: anyone else permission to become the root user, I'd like to know why
: sudo doesn't work if you just login as a normal user.
Because it does. Your premise is false. That's what it is for.
Peter
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From: Tony Lawrence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: Wish for a writable ISO-9660 compatible filsystem
Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 08:35:41 -0400
Johan Kullstam wrote:
> what about tar? can you make a big tar file and then burn it straight
> off to the cd-writer? list with tar tvf /dev/cdrom and extract using
> tar xvf /dev/cdrom just like when using a tape. maybe a cpio archive
> would be better?
Deja vu. A long time ago, people used to do things like
that. In fact,SCO systems still offer to configure a
"CD-ROM/TAPE installation device", and that's what they
mean, though there haven't been any CD's made in many a year
that the ctd (cd-tape) device could read..
--
Tony Lawrence ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
SCO/Linux articles, help, book reviews, tests,
job listings and more : http://www.pcunix.com
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From: Tony Lawrence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to set a user's TRAFFIC QUOTA??
Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 08:46:46 -0400
Glitch wrote:
>
> Niek van Suchtelen wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I know i can set a user's quota to limit the amount of disk space she is
> > using, but how do i set a quota to limit the network traffic a user's
> > website is generating? Say, i want to limit the traffic usage for each
> > of my users to 1 GB/month, and after that, it's not possible for pages
> > to load anymore (for this particular user). How do i set this limit? I
>
> so if they are running a business and they happen to go over their quota
> and they get a new customer that person is not able to get a webpage
> loaded b/c you disabled the user's bandwidth. Even if you don't have a
> setup where a user might be a business owner disabling their account
> just b/c they go over their bandwidth quota isn't right. If they go
> over then charge them extra if they are paying you in the first place,
> don't just shut them down until the end of the month.
It's no different than disk quotas- soft limits, hard limits
and sorry, but that's all you get.
Actually, limiting bandwidth could sometimes be a good
thing: DOS attacks, for example. Also, a customer not
expecting a Slashdot effect or similar influx might not WANT
to pay for the millions of hits and might well prefer to be
cut off.
Re: Slashdot etc.- it is the fervent prayer of many of us
with small techy sites NEVER to be noted by such, or at
least not until we'd grown enough to handle it.
--
Tony Lawrence ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
SCO/Linux articles, help, book reviews, tests,
job listings and more : http://www.pcunix.com
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Kimoto)
Subject: Re: Command error
Date: 13 Sep 2000 08:59:22 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <8pls8s$390$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I downloaded this FTP program. I opened up the install text file to
> find out how to install. It told me to cd into the dir of the Install
> executable and execute it with the ./Install command
Does the "Install" file have the executable bit set?
(Does it require some interpreter or dynamic loader in order to run?)
--
Paul Kimoto
This message was originally posted in plain text. Any images,
hyperlinks, or the like shown here have been added without my
consent, and may be a violation of international copyright law.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Subject: Re: Looking to enter the world of Linux...
Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 13:06:25 GMT
One word. Slackware. You'll love yourself in the morning...
On Wed, 13 Sep 2000 04:28:41 GMT, Matt Cahill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Howdy,
>
> I'm looking to try-out Linux, but I'm sort of torn between Red Hat and
>Corel. I know that Red Hat has the apps and perhaps will give me more
>mileage in the long run (this is based on reviews, etc...), but Corel
>apparently has a very solid distrib and apparently it's also easy to
>install.
> I'm a pretty confidant end-user...I like to tweak, and I can do so
>knowing full-well what can happen. I say this because I wonder: if
>Corel's main facet is it's ease of install, then perhaps I can handle Red
>Hat if it's got more under the hood?
>
> Any suggestions? And, in case anyone is wondering, this isn't meant to
>be some sort of vote-stuffing corporate promotion thing where I exclaim the
>benefits of one brand in the end.
>
> Thanks in advance for all help :)
>
>--
>Posted via CNET Help.com
>http://www.help.com/
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From: ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Swapping a Linux into a new Computer.
Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 13:31:49 GMT
FyreFiend wrote:
> Hi again,
> I just got a new (to me) computer with no hard drive and I was
> thinking about swapping my Linux box's hard drive into it. I was
> wondering how much trouble am I going to have when Linux boots up and
> finds that all the hardware has changed.
> So, should I just go for it or should I reinstall on the new box.
>
> TIA,
> Fyre
I have done this several times. In GENERAL, linux is able to deal
with it. I have had only one system to get scrambled, out of maybe a
dozen. The real issue is Doze, on a dual boot hard drive. It rarely
survives without some hacking in the registry, but, (thank goodness)
linux doesn't even have one of those. Try it, nothing really to lose, if
it fails you gonna re-install anyway.
Ray
--
Ray R. Jones
Errors have been made. Others will be blamed.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
HTTP://gordo.penguinpowered.com
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From: "Retro Grouch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: user permissions
Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 09:12:41 -0500
This is a dumb question - I have a script that runs as a particular user.
The permissions of the files created by this script default to 644 - I
need to set it up as 770.
In other words, every file created by this user should have the default
permissions of 770.
Where, oh where do I set this? I know it has to be available somewhere.
I've done it before, but it has fallen out through the cracks in my brain.
--Yan
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From: John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Looking to enter the world of Linux...
Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 12:30:06 GMT
Matt Cahill writes:
> I'm looking to try-out Linux, but I'm sort of torn between Red Hat and
> Corel.
> ...
> Any suggestions?
Try Stormix. Like Corel it is based on Debian. Unlike Corel, it is
complete and compatible.
--
John Hasler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler)
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, WI
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: un-eject a CD? Too far to walk over to shove it back in
Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 10:02:03 -0400
eject -t would close the tray I think.
OtiGoji <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Am I supposed to post:
>
> eject (open) Ctrl + E and
> close Ctrl +E?
>
> What? What?
>
> I'm getting tired of AOL shenanegins myself.
> Otius " ...it requires to be still further and more familiarly enlarged
upon,
> in order to be adequately understood, and moreover to take away any
incredulity
> which a profound ignorance of the entire subject may induce in some..."
Gojius
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From: Mav <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Windows or Linux for games?
Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 14:04:09 GMT
My 6 yr old has been shown both and can use either. It's all what they
learn...
Mav
"Kenny A. Chaffin" wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
> > The best place for games is kindergarden ;-)
> >
> >
> >
>
> and the interesting thing is that kindegardeners can use windows but
> probably not linux...
>
> KAC
> --
> KAC Website Design
> Custom Programming (java,Dynamo...), Web Design/Graphics
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.kacweb.com
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Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 09:31:03 -0500
From: "Larry K. Brown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Linksys Etherfast LNE100TX v4.0
If you check the file /proc/pci and find the LNE100TX card's vendor ID
and device id, then
compare it with the source in the tulip.c file you will probably find
like I did that the device ID
is different. It was just a few numbers off. I edited the tulip.c file
and recompiled and it has
worked fine since. I also found a newer version of tulip.c that had the
addition device id in it.
Mike Pullen wrote:
> I can not get this network card to be recognized. I am using the
> latest tulip drivers per the manual and web page. I am receiving the
> following error:
>
> insmod tulip
>
> tulip.c: init_mod.c: Device or resouce busy
>
> Any ideas?
> --
> Mike Pullen
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David C.)
Crossposted-To:
alt.comp.linux,alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.networking,hk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Adding RAM to RedHat Linux
Date: 13 Sep 2000 10:35:28 -0400
Raymond Doetjes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> With the kernel 2.2.x the append is no longer necesarry it asks the
> BioS how much memory is in the system.
Only if your BIOS supports the particular extension that the kernel
looks for. Many (even today) do not.
-- David
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From: "Jason" <Jason(AT)cyborgworkshop.com>
Subject: Re: calendar
Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 09:44:52 -0500
www.freshmeat.net search for calendar. I use Calcium. love it.
--
Jason
www.cyborgworkshop.com
...and the geek shall inherit the earth...
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Subject: Re: user permissions
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andreas Kahari)
Date: 13 Sep 2000 16:47:39 +0100
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Retro Grouch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>This is a dumb question - I have a script that runs as a particular user.
>The permissions of the files created by this script default to 644 - I
>need to set it up as 770.
>
>In other words, every file created by this user should have the default
>permissions of 770.
>
>Where, oh where do I set this? I know it has to be available somewhere.
>I've done it before, but it has fallen out through the cracks in my brain.
>
>--Yan
Use "umask 644" in the script. It should work but I haven't tried it
lately. You might have to set it back to the old value afterwards, I
think, maybe. "umask" is defnitly the answer, anyway, I think.
/A
--
Andreas K�h�ri, <URL:http://hello.to/andkaha/>.
All junk e-mail will be reported to the appropriate authorities.
========================================================================
The important thing is not to stop questioning.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Issues after upgrading to redhat 6.2
Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 14:43:40 GMT
Redhat 6.2 Upgrade getting better, but still need help
As alot of you readers may know that I upgrade my Redhat 5.2 computers
(3 of them) to Redhat 6.2 and I am still have some issues. If you can
help me on the issues please email me at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ASAP I have to get the computers working again soon.
Issues
1) PLIP - I still cant get plip working on the computers again.
If you know anything about plip and think you can help please
email me.
2) Burning mixed audio cds (cds with alot spaces in the tracks)
If you know how to copy mixed audio cd's please let me know
3) On one of the computers I stil cant get true type fonts to work.
Once again if you can help me on any of the above issues please email
me and also
THANKS TO EVERYONE THAT BEEN HELPING ME
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Before you buy.
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From: "Retro Grouch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Dialup and Lease line
Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 09:50:16 -0500
man pppd
man route
In article <8pnefq$pt6$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Eric Ho
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> My computer is currently using a lease line to connect to the Internet
> with Slackware 7 (kernel 2.2.15). Is it possible to set it up so that I
> can sometimes use the lease line and sometimes use the dialup (56K) ? If
> possible, please point me step by step instructions.
>
> Thanks a million in advance.
>
> Best Regards, Eric Ho
>
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From: Mav <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Looking to enter the world of Linux...
Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 14:24:27 GMT
SuSE...
Easy to install & lots-o-apps
Mav
Matt Cahill wrote:
>
> Howdy,
>
> I'm looking to try-out Linux, but I'm sort of torn between Red Hat and
> Corel. I know that Red Hat has the apps and perhaps will give me more
> mileage in the long run (this is based on reviews, etc...), but Corel
> apparently has a very solid distrib and apparently it's also easy to
> install.
> I'm a pretty confidant end-user...I like to tweak, and I can do so
> knowing full-well what can happen. I say this because I wonder: if
> Corel's main facet is it's ease of install, then perhaps I can handle Red
> Hat if it's got more under the hood?
>
> Any suggestions? And, in case anyone is wondering, this isn't meant to
> be some sort of vote-stuffing corporate promotion thing where I exclaim the
> benefits of one brand in the end.
>
> Thanks in advance for all help :)
>
> --
> Posted via CNET Help.com
> http://www.help.com/
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