Linux-Misc Digest #767, Volume #18 Tue, 26 Jan 99 11:13:10 EST
Contents:
Re: LILO problem with win98 (Redhat) (Ian Hay)
Re: How Serialized is the Linux Filesystem? (Tim Smith)
Re: Help, Kernel too big (Michael Schlenstedt)
Re: How big is a tar file? (David R. Conrad)
Re: LILO problem with win98 (Redhat) (Gordon Weast)
Removing a block device (KDE Uninstall) (Curt Pederson)
Re: Help! Something broke with Libc6 ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
pppd gets SIGHUP during ftp (Mark Mueller)
Re: The Open Group and X (brian moore)
Re: Sound Configuration (Ivo Naninck)
Re: Criminally Insane Programmers Are Attracted To Open Source Code (David H. McCoy)
Re: Linux or FreeBSD? (Daniel McGregor)
Re: Help, Kernel too big (Wayne D. Hoxsie Jr.)
Re: Criminally Insane Programmers Are Attracted To Open Source Code (Mr S A Penny)
ioctl AND CGI's (iqbal)
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From: Ian Hay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.portable
Subject: Re: LILO problem with win98 (Redhat)
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 09:12:09 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Felix Lam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > hi there,
> >
> > As a newbie in Linux, I tried installing redhat 5.1 on the
> > Sony Vaio 505 notebook. After days and nights, it finally
> > installed ... :)
> >
> > The problem now is with booting my linux kernel. Booting
> > off disk is fine, but no luck with lilo. When I went thru the
> > step of setting up lilo during installation, it always reported
> > "an error has happened ..." and I eventually aborted this step.
> >
> > I have fiddled with my /etc/lilo.conf file but with no luck.
> > It always boot straight into win98 instead. When I run /sbin/lilo
> > , it always return
> >
> > Added Linux *
> > Partition entry not found.
> >
> > Here is a copy of my lilo.conf
> >
> > boot=/dev/hda
> > map=/boot/map
> > prompt
> > timeout=50
> > image=/boot/vmlinuz
> > label=linux
> > root=/dev/hda5
> > read-only
> > other=/dev/hda1
> > label=win98
> > table=/dev/hda
> >
> > Thanks a lot in advance. It has been bugging me many nights now ... :(
> >
> > P.S. When I run fdisk in Linux, it reports "unknown" type for my win98
> > partition, will this have anything with this problem??
> >
>
> just on that p.s. bit: the reason linux fdisk reports 'unknown' as your win98
> partition type is that win98 uses FAT32, not FAT16 like older windows and
> msdos. linux can only read FAT16 (unless there is some patch i don't know
> about).
There is.
--
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Ian R. Hay <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Toronto, Canada <http://www3.sympatico.ca/ian.hay/>
Linuxing about since June 21, 1998 <Redhat 5.1 - 2.0.35>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tim Smith)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: How Serialized is the Linux Filesystem?
Date: 26 Jan 1999 06:21:16 -0800
Stephan Houben <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Q: Are there any simple locking mechanisms
>> which can make such unsynchrized
>> processes save?
>
>Certainly! Since the dawn of unix, lock files have been used for
>just this purpose -- see creat(2) for more info.
More appropriate might be fcntl(2) or flock(2), since those are the
system calls that implement file locking. Linux supports both advisory
locks and mandatory locks.
--Tim Smith
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Schlenstedt)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.slackware
Subject: Re: Help, Kernel too big
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 08:40:35 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Am Mon, 25 Jan 1999 22:25:43 -0800, schrieb Wael Sedky:
>I compiled my kernel 2.0.35 with the default options plus some really few
>others (sound & printer) options.
>
>After I update my lilo.conf and type "lilo" I get an error "Kernel too big"
>It is about 1M I think!! What do I do. I don't think I can make it smaller
>than that. Should I delete the old one?
>
First you can make a "make bzImage" instead of "make zImage", but I think a
Kernel with 1 MB is really to large! You should compile most "features"
like sound, printer, vfat ... as modules. That makes the Kernel much
smaller, but do not effect functionallity.
CU
Schlenn
--
Linux -- Where do you want to go tomorrow?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David R. Conrad)
Subject: Re: How big is a tar file?
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 12:17:49 GMT
On Mon, 25 Jan 1999 22:19:50 -0500,
Yan Seiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>The drive does not have compression, so I need to use some form of software
>compression to get everything packed on the tape.
>
>I always thought that each file was compressed separately (in other words, the
>pipe was something like cat file | gzip | tar, rather than cat file | tar | gzip.
>If each file in the tar is compressed individually, I would only lose 1 file, no?
>
>Am I missing something in the way tar cfz works?
Yes. It tars first and then gzips the tar file. That's one reason why
it gets better compression than zip. Perhaps you could use zip if you
want each file compressed separately.
--
David R. Conrad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
This is why I love America -- that any kid can dream "I'm going to get
naked with the President" ... and that dream can actually come true.
What a great country! -- Michael Moore
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From: Gordon Weast <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.portable
Subject: Re: LILO problem with win98 (Redhat)
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 09:52:40 -0500
Ian Hay wrote:
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > Felix Lam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > hi there,
> > >
> > > As a newbie in Linux, I tried installing redhat 5.1 on the
> > > Sony Vaio 505 notebook. After days and nights, it finally
> > > installed ... :)
> > >
> > > The problem now is with booting my linux kernel. Booting
> > > off disk is fine, but no luck with lilo. When I went thru the
> > > step of setting up lilo during installation, it always reported
> > > "an error has happened ..." and I eventually aborted this step.
> > >
> > > I have fiddled with my /etc/lilo.conf file but with no luck.
> > > It always boot straight into win98 instead. When I run /sbin/lilo
> > > , it always return
> > >
> > > Added Linux *
> > > Partition entry not found.
> > >
> > > Here is a copy of my lilo.conf
> > >
> > > boot=/dev/hda
> > > map=/boot/map
> > > prompt
> > > timeout=50
> > > image=/boot/vmlinuz
> > > label=linux
> > > root=/dev/hda5
> > > read-only
> > > other=/dev/hda1
> > > label=win98
> > > table=/dev/hda
> > >
> > > Thanks a lot in advance. It has been bugging me many nights now ... :(
> > >
> > > P.S. When I run fdisk in Linux, it reports "unknown" type for my win98
> > > partition, will this have anything with this problem??
> > >
> >
> > just on that p.s. bit: the reason linux fdisk reports 'unknown' as your win98
> > partition type is that win98 uses FAT32, not FAT16 like older windows and
> > msdos. linux can only read FAT16 (unless there is some patch i don't know
> > about).
>
> There is.
> --
> --------------------------------------------------------
> Ian R. Hay <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Toronto, Canada <http://www3.sympatico.ca/ian.hay/>
> Linuxing about since June 21, 1998 <Redhat 5.1 - 2.0.35>
> --------------------------------------------------------
Well, Ian, your response is something I would expect out of Microsoft
support. You tell the truth, but convey no information.
Felix,
You need the latest Linux kernel to get FAT32 support. It works in 2.0.35
and later. It is also in the 2.2.0.??? version that should be readily
available soon. I am using 2.0.35 and have been using FAT32 support for
several months now. You may have to config and recompile the kernel but
it really isn't hard.
Unless you are truly adventurous, stick with 2.0.35 until 2.2.0 is
available through a standard distribution.
Gordon Weast
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From: Curt Pederson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Removing a block device (KDE Uninstall)
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 09:04:04 -0600
Hello,
I am having a hell of a time trying to fix a hard drive problem. My
drive burped and caused some corruption of files, mostly my KDE files.
I ran fsck multiple times until it didn't report any more errors. I
then tried running KDE again but nothing showed up, so I tried
uninstalling the KDE by removing the rpm's. Everything was going fine
until it tried to remove kdebase and died when trying to delete the
konsole file. So, I went out and tried to rm it myself, but rm
reports:
rm: konsole: Operation not permitted
When I did an ls -l on konsole, here is what it reported:
b--sr-s--t 1 26228 20297 116, 112 Jun 7 2032 konsole
I've tried running chown and chmod on konsole, but it keeps giving me
Operation not permitted.
How can I remove this file? As far as I know, it is the only file
keeping me from completing the reinstall of the KDE.
Thanks for your help!
Curt
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Help! Something broke with Libc6
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 12:28:22 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Mon, 25 Jan 1999 21:11:44 -0800, Al Tuttle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I keep having trouble with various programs. I get an error.
>Like when I try to install StarOffice.. it looks like this:
>
>Hudson:# ./setup
>./setup: error in loading shared libraries
>/usr/i486-linux-libc6/lib/libc.so.6: undefined symbol: _dl_profile
>
did you update to SuSE 6.0 ? There is a helptext under:
http://www.suse.de/support/sdb/uli_soglibc.html
it references this problem.
that's in german, if you can't find the english version, write again.
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Answers please in this newsgroup!
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark Mueller)
Subject: pppd gets SIGHUP during ftp
Date: 26 Jan 1999 15:07:25 GMT
Folks,
ppp keeps disconnecting on me while I'm doing ftp. I can do a telnet
or lynx session for hours without a problem, but ftp or ncftp will
disconnect within a minute or so, and /var/messages says that pppd
received SIGHUP.
Any idea what can be done about this?
Mark
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (brian moore)
Subject: Re: The Open Group and X
Date: 25 Jan 1999 22:07:54 GMT
On Thu, 21 Jan 1999 22:30:36 +0100,
Matthias Warkus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> What is the X11 that The Open Group develop? You can download X11R6.4 and
> "public patches" from ftp.x.org. Surely this is not some kind of
> implementation? Or is it?
It is the reference implementation.
> Has TOG actually got someone working on X?
Supposedly. They took over as head of X development when The X
Consortium dissolved. They basically have the same role as a mediator
between Sun/HP/IBM and other Open Group members and work to push the
'state of the art' forward.
--
Brian Moore | "The Zen nature of a spammer resembles
Sysadmin, C/Perl Hacker | a cockroach, except that the cockroach
Usenet Vandal | is higher up on the evolutionary chain."
Netscum, Bane of Elves. Peter Olson, Delphi Postmaster
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From: Ivo Naninck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Sound Configuration
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 23:16:22 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi,
>From 'the DOCs', there are 'no' SB-compatible soundcards. That is,
compatible enough to be recognized in Linux.
I very recently installed very succesfully a very real SB16.
The type of card you mention also doesn't reside in my gray memory-cells
from reading the DOCs, so I think it's bad chance for you...
Sorry...
> Matthew Willcock wrote:
>
> I have setup RedHat 5.2 Linux, and every thing works exept Sound. I
> have A Super Sound Origins PCI PnP sound card. sndconfig, says I have
> a sound card, but Model=UNKNOWN, how can I get around this? The card
> is ment to me Sound Blaster compatible, but I've tried entering all
> combinations of settings for the card.
>
> The main chip has ESS Solo on it.
>
> Matthew
> Matthew Willcock
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://www.mwillc.free-online.co.uk
--
Best regards, and don't let the bits byte!
Ivo Naninck.
~
~
:wq!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David H. McCoy)
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Criminally Insane Programmers Are Attracted To Open Source Code
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 21:30:29 -0500
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
says...
>On Sun, 24 Jan 1999 18:35:12 -0500, in gnu.misc.discuss
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (David H. McCoy) wrote:
>
>>In article <78g4p9$c9q$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>says...
>>>In article <e$dtm$7R#GA.229@upnetnews03>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
>>>>
>>>>Maybe this would be a good way to find enough programmers to fix the Y2K
>>>>problems in Linux.
>>>
>>>There aren't really any Y2K problems in Linux, this Y2K nonsense for the PC
>>>is mostly a problem for software that runs under MickySoft created
>>>operating systems....
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>Right. The entire world is working to fix mainframes because of MS. Why
>>not blame MS for all the ills that have plagued the world since the birth
>>of mankind?
>
>They killed Elvis you know.
>
>Besides, look at the groups this is posted to - it's hardly going to turn
>into a pro MS thread.
>
>cya
>
>--
>Steven Blunt
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>http://enterfornone.simplenet.com/
>
I don't think it is an issue of pro or anti-MS, but of common sense.
Anyone who's bother to do any trivial amount of reading would know that
mainframes command the lion's share of Y2K. Some people are so into being
anti-MS, that it blinds them in rather interesting ways. Every company
IBM, Sun, Oracle everyone is at the mercy of MS.
Hell, if MS is so powerful, why fight? The are clearly about the take
command of the Earth.
--
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David H. McCoy
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Daniel McGregor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: Linux or FreeBSD?
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 22:08:01 GMT
Ken wrote:
> I can get my Linux box to lock up fairly regularly when running
> Mathematica. I want to try it on FreeBSD to see if I have the same
> problem.
I have never used Mathematica. What is it?
Oh, a have noticed linux's stability can vary from computer to
computer. It never crashes on me, but for other people it can be as bad
as microsoft. I hear the old Adaptec drivers are buggy enough to bring
the system down from time to time.
> > I like FreeBSD's /stand/sysinstall program, but I also like
> > Debian's dselect program. I think Linux is better suited for
> > the desktop while FreeBSD is a server.
>
> I'm partial to SuSE's yast myself. As for FreeBSD vs Linux, I like
> them both and I'm very thankful I have a choice. I might have to try
> NetBSD next.
I have never tried Yast. I avoid comercial products as I don't have any
money. :)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Wayne D. Hoxsie Jr.)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.slackware
Subject: Re: Help, Kernel too big
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 15:12:55 GMT
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In article <a3cr2.346$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Wael Sedky wrote:
>>/usr/src/linux/arch/YOUR_ARCHETECTURE/boot/zimage
>
>
>I follow the book blindly:
>
>cd /usr/include
>rm -rf linux
>ln -s /usr/src/linux/include/linux linux
>rm -rf asm
>ln -s /usr/src/linux/include/asm-i386 asm
>
>cd /usr/src/linux
>make mrproper
>
>make config or make menuconfig
>.......
>.....
>.......
>make dep
>make clean
>make zImage
>mv vmlinux /
^^^^^^^^^^^
Here is your problem. Replace this step with :
mv arch/i386/boot/zImage /vmlinuz
That is the compressed kernel.
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] | (Or die trying.)
http://www.hoxnet.com | Me.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mr S A Penny)
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Criminally Insane Programmers Are Attracted To Open Source Code
Date: 26 Jan 1999 15:32:49 GMT
In article <78jdfb$na6$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (steve
>mcadams) wrote:
>>>Hell, if MS is so powerful, why fight? The are clearly about the take
>>>command of the Earth.
>>
>>Did you hear that the Bill's are having an affair? <g> -steve
>
>Sorry, the idea of Bill Gates having sex just does not compute.
then how did he become a father?
SammyTheSnake
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http://www.warwick.ac.uk/~phuae/StSim/index.html NEW UPDATE! ***25/01/99***
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From: iqbal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: ioctl AND CGI's
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 12:29:32 +0000
Hi
I have alinux box running, and is used as a webserver. I can run CGI (in
perl) from the command line okay BUT, when I run it from a web form, it
gets upset.
The cgi simply takes in form variables, place into a file , pgp sign the
file, and thats it, but it doesn't want to.
The error I get is
Cannot open tty, using stdin
Unable to get terminal chracteristics: ioctl: invalid argument
Can anyone point me in the correct direction...
Thanks
Iqbal
PS Could you please reply via email also.
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