Linux-Misc Digest #767, Volume #20 Thu, 24 Jun 99 08:13:08 EDT
Contents:
Re: making linux go away ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Where do I start... (=?iso-8859-1?Q?G=F6ran=20Wir=E9en?=)
Simple way to patch binary files? (Robert Feldt)
Re: System.map (Chris Raper)
Re: making linux go away ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
how to run sco binary on linux (Jarungwit J.)
Re: I'm thinking about installing Linux (Tarkaan)
Re: Terminal File Manager (Tarkaan)
Diva 2.01 ("Daniel Fernandez")
Re: how to run sco binary on linux
Re: Cable modem not working... (Edmund Lian)
Re: go back and forward in directory tree (Erwin Waterlander)
Re: Simple way to patch binary files? (Geoff Short)
named pukes occasionally (yan seiner)
Re: fax with isdn possible? (M. Buchenrieder)
Documentation issues. (Peter da Silva)
Re: route insists on using dns, ifconfig on modifying the routing table... please
help me! ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Could Microsoft Cheat On The New Mindcraft Benchmark? (was: Mindcraft Retest
News ("Scott MacDonald")
Re: Cable modem not working... ("Stephen Jacob")
Re: realtech rtl8029 with SUSE (M. Buchenrieder)
Re: Could Microsoft Cheat On The New Mindcraft Benchmark? (was: (yan seiner)
Re: NT the best web platform? ("Scott MacDonald")
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.caldera,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: making linux go away
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 09:21:04 GMT
In article <7iv13k$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"adam howard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> talk about a waste of bandwidth....do we really need a few dozen people to
> give the same answer?
yes you are corect a lot of answers and all the same
here a diferent answer
1] bot from a floppy in dos/win
2] use partition magic 4 dos version
and for here on it's easy to configure
> > How do I get rid of Linux in the boot sector (I guess that's where it
> > is) once and for all?
>
>
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From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?G=F6ran=20Wir=E9en?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Where do I start...
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 11:24:56 +0100
Hi!
I'm thinking of trying to get Linux for my computer, but I'm not sure
where to start. I know I can download free Linux versions from the
Internet (I have a fast connection, so I'm not concerned about the file
sizes), but:
- Where can I download Linux versions?
- Which version is best?
- Which version is easiest to install?
- Etc...
/G�ran
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From: Robert Feldt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Simple way to patch binary files?
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 11:47:16 +0200
Hi all,
What is the simplest way to alter two bytes in a certain (and same)
location in a set of binary files? No fancy patching needed...
Any info or links to tools appreciated.
/Robert
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris Raper)
Subject: Re: System.map
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 09:31:30 GMT
On Wed, 23 Jun 1999 18:56:47 +0100, mist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>My version of Redhat keeps a copy of the System.map in /boot, so I
>imagine yours would too. Copy across System.map from /usr/src/linux
>after you compile the kernel to /boot/System.map-2.2.10 and then symlink
>that to /boot/System.map. Hopefully that should remove the message.
Out of interest, what does this file do? Should I keep copying it into
/boot every time I recompile the kernel? Do you have to keep seperate
copies of it if you are alternating between a couple of kernels? Is it
the file that LILO creates when you run /sbin/lilo after making your
kernel?
Thanks
Chris R.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.caldera,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: making linux go away
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 09:35:03 GMT
In article <7k3p9g$3s5$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"John Sowden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I read the responses, just flames. The problem is you are asking a valid
> question. I also need to know how to remove Linux from a hard drive, as I
> am installing a new copy (caldera) and it doen't discuss in the newbie part
> about installing over an existing linux os.
>
> Can someone please take our requests seriously.
>
I'm a newbie. I have a computer with windows installed for about a year and i
have installed RedHat for about 3 days (i still have problem with config.
ex:modem & sundcard). But this posting i's too long. fcky
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From: Jarungwit J. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: how to run sco binary on linux
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 09:40:21 GMT
Hi all,
I have an old application on SCO 3.2.2 and would like
to use on Linux(RedHat or Slackware).
Can anyone provide me the pointer?
Thanks in advance,
Jarungwit J.
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From: Tarkaan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: I'm thinking about installing Linux
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 05:46:51 -0400
Scott Arpajian wrote:
>
> I'm thinking about installing Linux at home. I want to dual boot with
> Windows 98. Any good suggestions on where to find information for
> beginners on installing Linux?
I'm working through RedHat 5.2 right now.. My guidebook is Using Linux
(Special Edition) by Que. I think Que is better than Dummies, but not
yet so complex as a HOWTO, so it's a good bridge between what's inside
your head and the existing (complicated) documentation.
-- Jack Tarkaan Kalamazoo, Michigan
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From: Tarkaan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Terminal File Manager
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 05:48:29 -0400
T.E.Dickey wrote:
>
> > Just to let you know where I'm coming from, I was really irate when
> > everyone started using Xtree Gold, I thought it had too many options. :)
>
> well, then you won't like Midnight Commander.
>
> There's a few things like (what you are looking for) floating about, but
> not too many that are maintained. (I maintain one, but it's out of your
> range as well). You might be able to find a copy of 'files' around.
> And someone had a much-reduced clone of flist, plus another whose name
> escapes me at the moment.
Hmmm...thanks for the leads, I'll look into them.
> > Would there be a market for this if I were to write one? Do you think
> > people would use it?
>
> no.
Well fine then, I'll keep it to myself!
-- Jack Tarkaan Kalamazoo, Michigan
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From: "Daniel Fernandez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Diva 2.01
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 12:06:59 +0200
Greets anyboby..
Anyone knows if there�s any driver for this ISDN card ?, model 2.0 was
supported ok, but it can�t detect this one....
Thank you....
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Subject: Re: how to run sco binary on linux
Date: 24 Jun 1999 10:21:39 GMT
Install iBCS, and your SCO application will work.
You will find iBCS at tsx-11.mit.edu:/pub/linux/BETA/ibcs2 and mirrors
Regards,
Bjarne
In article <7ksue4$1jd$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Jarungwit J. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>Hi all,
>
>I have an old application on SCO 3.2.2 and would like
>to use on Linux(RedHat or Slackware).
>Can anyone provide me the pointer?
>
>Thanks in advance,
>Jarungwit J.
>
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Edmund Lian)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Cable modem not working...
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 10:27:20 GMT
On Wed, 23 Jun 1999 08:55:32 GMT, Ted Sikora
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>You have it backwards. eth0 should be the cable nic eth1 internal
>network otherwise the routing will be all messed up especially with ip
>forwarding enabled.
Hmmm... don't know much about Slackware, but I doubt it's that
different from Debian. i.e., it doesn't matter which NIC the cable
modem is plugged into as long as the configs are right. I run eth0 as
my local LAN interface, and eth1 for my cable modem.
..Edmund.
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From: Erwin Waterlander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: go back and forward in directory tree
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 09:50:04 GMT
Hi Vic,
You could try wcd. It has a stack option which size can be
configured to MAX_INT.
See http://www.xs4all.nl/~waterlan/
Kind regards,
On Wed, 23 Jun 1999, Vic Mortelmans wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Is there (preferrably in bash) a way to browse the directory tree like
> you do with webpages? I mean going back to the previously visited
> directory,...
>
> I remember vaguely having read about something like this and it will
> probably be a very simple command... but I can't find it. I'm not even
> sure it had to do with bash or even linux.
>
> --
>
> Groeten,
>
> Vic
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> --
>
> ** has anybody seen my 'soffice' file? I've lost it during installation
> **
>
>
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Building WAY-4.73
Prof. Holstlaan 4
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Geoff Short)
Subject: Re: Simple way to patch binary files?
Date: 24 Jun 1999 10:42:23 GMT
Robert Feldt ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: What is the simplest way to alter two bytes in a certain (and same)
: location in a set of binary files? No fancy patching needed...
Most systems come with a binary editor called bpe, better still is one
based on vi, called bvi - try http://bvi.linuxbox.com/
Geoff
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From: yan seiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: named pukes occasionally
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 10:33:00 +0000
I have bind set up running as a caching only nameserver. Periodically,
a single entry will become corrupted. Queries return "cannot locate
www.xxx.com". All other lookups work fine.
Attemps to dump the cache via kill -HUP fail. The only way to clear
this up is to kill named and restart.
There is nothing in the logs indicating any failure. ANy ideas on
what's happening and how to diagnose?
I am running Bind 8 on RH 5.2.
Thanks
Yan
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (M. Buchenrieder)
Subject: Re: fax with isdn possible?
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 06:43:24 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dirk Melcher) writes:
>Hi everybody.
>the subject says it all: Is it possible to send faxes via isdn?
[...]
Generally possible, yes. But unless you're using an active ISDN
card, it won't work due to non-existant drivers (which aren't likely
to be written anytime soon). Passive ISDN cards do not provide a faxchip
solution onboard, and since the fax protocol is highly time-critical,
it is rather unlikely that it will ever work on such cards at all.
If you need an ISDN->Fax solution, get an AVM B1 card, or a simple
14400 modem and the appropriate converter for your PBX.
Michael
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter da Silva)
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.bsd.misc,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Documentation issues.
Date: 24 Jun 1999 11:14:18 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
David Kastrup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> And no fricking manpages for anything you need to have. The shame!
>Well, I presume the info pages are offensive?
Texinfo is a really annoying documentation system. The text-mode browser
has utterly stagnated, and to get printed documents from them requires
running TeX, which has to be the most user-hostile program I've ever
seen, by an order of magnitude, and I've used everything from IBM mainframes
to the Xerox Star office system. Yes, I really do mean TeX is ten times
harder to use than Runoff.
If you must use hypertext docs, at least make them HTML so you can view them
in lynx or a GUI browser that doesn't suck. This isn't rocket science... we
started working on SGML documentation standards back in, what was it, 1984
or so. I've still got my material from the CFCM meeting in Austin somewhere.
If you don't like "." commands then use Docbook or Linuxdoc format.
--
In hoc signo hack, Peter da Silva <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
`-_-' Ar rug t� barr�g ar do mhact�re inniu?
'U` "Be vewy vewy quiet...I'm hunting Jedi." -- Darth Fudd
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.admin
Subject: Re: route insists on using dns, ifconfig on modifying the routing table...
please help me!
Date: 24 Jun 1999 11:18:50 GMT
1. Stopping the resolver stuff (I'm not 100% sure if that works, but it should)
route -n etc.
2. ifconfig sets up route
This is a new feature in the 2.2 kernel series, allowing for automatic
setup of interfaces with just one instruction.
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From: "Scott MacDonald" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix
Subject: Re: Could Microsoft Cheat On The New Mindcraft Benchmark? (was: Mindcraft
Retest News
Date: Sat, 19 Jun 1999 03:19:09 -0300
Stuart Fox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:7keqqo$7gk$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> Jason O'Rourke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:7kemol$sr0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Stuart Fox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >
> > >It isn't MS's problem if someone exploits the tools provided in an
Office
> > >app. However it might be if a product didn't work as advertised - win
> 3.1
> > >on DR-DOS for instance.
> > >Does this mean that if I wrote a virus in VB that MS would be
> responsible?
> >
> > In my mind, yes. They created a 'feature' that has brought IS
departments
> > using Office to their knees. This started with the tame but annoying
word
> > macro virus and has now gotten quite dangerous.
> >
> > >>and the knowledge
> > >> that anyone could exploit IIS with a single line of code.
> > >Are you suggesting that *nix has no bugs? Or requires no patches to
get
> > >running securely? ALL operating systems have bugs that must be
patched,
> I
> > >don't care if it's linux, NT, Solaris etc. And why has no-one found
this
> > >bug until now - IIS 4.0 has been out for quite a while now...
> >
> > Unix certainly has had its troubles, especially with sendmail. But at
> > this point, most of the issues have been resolved.
>
> Excluding of course every new app that is released, or every new update...
>
> Open source code and
> > 20 years of release time have been helpful. Meanwhile, Windows and NT
> > have been used for networking for but a few years and it's pretty clear
> > that this is going to continue for quite some time. MS won't get sued
> > over it, they'll make a killing selling fixes instead. Or perhaps
people
> > will start to realize the costs and move on.
>
> They don't sell fixes - they are free.
>
Win 98 was a fix for Win95 don't try to tell me they don't sell them.
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From: "Stephen Jacob" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Cable modem not working...
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 11:42:24 +0100
Edmund Lian wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>On Wed, 23 Jun 1999 08:55:32 GMT, Ted Sikora
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>You have it backwards. eth0 should be the cable nic eth1 internal
>>network otherwise the routing will be all messed up especially with ip
>>forwarding enabled.
>
>Hmmm... don't know much about Slackware, but I doubt it's that
>different from Debian. i.e., it doesn't matter which NIC the cable
>modem is plugged into as long as the configs are right. I run eth0 as
>my local LAN interface, and eth1 for my cable modem.
I agree, that doesn't make sense to me either. I don't think it should make
any difference whatsoever which NIC is used for the cable modem. It's just a
matter of configuring your routes correctly (it's not like eth0 has to be
the default route or anything -- my eth0 certainly isn't). IP forwarding
doesn't make any difference to this. It's perfectly possible to set it up to
forward (presumably with NAT [IP masquerading] in the case mentioned)
through the interface of your choice.
Regards,
sj
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (M. Buchenrieder)
Subject: Re: realtech rtl8029 with SUSE
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 10:45:42 GMT
"Bruce Jackson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
[...]
>Any ideas greatly appreciated! In windoze 98 it
>says that it is IRQ 9 and memory starts at E300-E01F. I tried adding those
>to the modprobe command for the realtech 8129 and also to the nec2000 but to
>no avail.
[...]
Wrong modules. This is really a NE2000 comp. card, but it needs the ne2k-pci
module . The plain ISA NE2* module may or may not work (in your case,
obviously, it doesn't) .
Michael
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From: yan seiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.networking,omp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix
Subject: Re: Could Microsoft Cheat On The New Mindcraft Benchmark? (was:
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 11:01:31 +0000
Are you saying that MS, with a practically unlimited budget, technical
expertise, access to resources that most of us mere mortals can only
dream about, took a year to achive a 99.8% uptime?
What does that tell you about the average joe out there? All he can
hope for is about 90% uptime.
I changed from NT server to Linux server 6 months ago. I achieved 99.8%
uptime in the last 6 months; the one time the system was unavailable
(for 3 hours - I was out of town) was due to the fact that I screwed up
the hosts file. This on a budget of $0 and a total time of maybe 40
hours.
The NT installation prior to that would crash regularly. I took to
rebooting it every weekend, and sometimes it would not come up. (I
blame most of this on R&RAS, which is the worst POS I've ever seen in a
production environment. I've seen alpha stuff that is more stable and
better documented.)
Even the non-techincal people have been remarking how reliable the
network is lately -
these are folks who don't even know what server I'm running.
Yan
Chad Mulligan wrote:
>
> I had posted this article a couple of weeks ago, after listening, endlessly
> about how NT couldn't SMP, or Cluster, or stay up 99.8% of the time.
>
> "In 1998, the Microsoft Web site team achieved the long-term goal set in
> 1997 to attain 99.8% availability. When talking about or referring to
> availability, we have two classifications to increase granularity: server
> availability and user availability - both of which are equally important.
>
> Server availability refers to the overall healthiness of the site's servers.
> This means the servers are "capable" of serving a request; that is, the
> server is not in an unknown or locked state and the INETINFO process is
> functioning correctly.
>
> User availability is the experience the user has when she requests a page or
> data from the site's servers. Does she receive the response that was
> requested? Examples of user availability problems include error messages
> such as the 500 Server Too Busy error. When you're looking at server
> availability, this is OK since the server is still responding. For user
> availability, it is not."
>
> They achieved the 99.8% availability of the site, with a very heavy load.
>
> But you can draw your own conclusions.
>
> >
> >--
> >The wheel is turning but the hamster is dead.
> >Craig Kelley -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >http://www.isu.edu/~kellcrai finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP block
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From: "Scott MacDonald" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: NT the best web platform?
Date: Sat, 19 Jun 1999 03:21:59 -0300
> >
> >Don't forget the "low budget testing environment" Mindcraft had.... They
> >dual-booted their Quad-Xeon box (which of course made for a lousy
benchmark
> >right there and then --- those hard disks are not really behaving the
same
> >over their whole capacity).
>
> I'll admit, I'm curious as to how much of a difference that makes.
>
> Does anyone have specs as to the difference in raw throughput
> rate between Cylinder 0 and the last cylinder of, say,
> an IBM DDRS-39130 (which is what I happen to have :-) ), or
> any other disk?
>
> If there is a significant difference (and I suspect that there is;
> even assuming the same data density througout the entire platter --
> and that would be hard to do without infinitely small sectors :-) ) --
> more and longer seeks would be needed near the inside of the disk),
> that might explain some of the performance difference.
>
> (But NT was 2.7x faster. I fail to see this being a *complete*
> explanation by any means. More likely it was the misconfiguration
> of /etc/inetd.conf, would be my guess, choking the Linux box
> with unused httpd daemons trying to figure things out....)
A My Cdrom can read 24X on the inner section of the disk and 12X on the
outer. I don't see how hard drives wouldn't be the same. 2.7X faster could
be created by this fact. I don't belive this was the only factor though.
>
> [.sigsnip]
>
> ----
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- next time Mindcraft, try using 2 identical disks :-)
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