Linux-Misc Digest #767, Volume #19 Tue, 6 Apr 99 20:13:16 EDT
Contents:
Re: Why Linux still isn't my standard boot-up OS, or what are the Linux-equivalents
for these Windoze programs? (Harry)
Question: total on ls-command ("Kim Krarup Andersen")
PPP doesn't work anymore ("Dr A Medina S]")
Re: New Microsoft News (Jerry Lynn Kreps)
Linux Web Site for Newbies (Diane Adams)
Re: Anyone tried compiling LinCity? (Jerry Lynn Kreps)
Re: Graphics Blaster RIVA TNT,Redhat 5.2, X Installation (Jason Romo)
Re: SuSE Subscription vs. SuSE 6.0 (Jerry Lynn Kreps)
Re: How do I install/use Ghostscript to print on my unsupported printer? (Bob
Tennent)
Re: Communicator 5.1 will not run with AccelX but works fine with (Jeremy Chatfield)
Re: PIM or other address book for Linux? (Matthias Warkus)
Web server setup... ("Sccoaire")
x11amp - is my sound configured properly? (Arcady Genkin)
Re: Unresolved modules (symbols) ("Captain Blood")
SETI@home is now available for various UNIX platforms ("Seti")
Re: Netscape Mail Sound (Gerald Willmann)
PIM or other address book for Linux? (Ted McDaniel)
message in /var/log/messages (Howard Mann)
Best Cheapbytes CDRom ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Broken MBR ("Markus Pickartz")
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From: Harry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Why Linux still isn't my standard boot-up OS, or what are the
Linux-equivalents for these Windoze programs?
Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 17:28:33 -0400
> And your idea means the end of all innovation in design,
> since you're arguing that everybody should get together,
> decide to do things all the same way, and then leave it
> that way -- regardless of how well or poorly it works.
Actually, I think software design and innovation has moved
on from the conventions used to build an interface. Let's
face it, no-one would call moving from a brake pedal to a
hand operated driving brake an example of automotive
innovation. It would be seen as just a failure to understand
the value of convention.
> [snip] I use emacs and not vi because I like the emacs
> operational design and I don't like the vi operational
> design.
I have no problem with that - you're accustomed to one set of
conventions, and that's fine!
> [snip] crappy & inefficient [snip]
Oh dear! Any chance this red mist will ever clear?
Harry
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From: "Kim Krarup Andersen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Question: total on ls-command
Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 22:47:57 +0200
Hi,
I'm new to Linux. When I do a "ls / -al" I see 19 lines of files or
directories. How come the total in the first line says "total 61" ? Can
anyone tell me why?
Regards
Kim Krarup Andersen
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://home1.inet.tele.dk/kkanders/
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Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 15:26:55 -0600
From: "Dr A Medina S]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: PPP doesn't work anymore
I used to connect to Internet using Red Hat Linux 5.2 without any
problem. Now suddendly, my ppp connection doesn't work. If I use
Xdialppp, it dials, connects, and instead "serial connection
established", I get "ppp finisihed".
If I use X-ISP, it dials, gets throu the password chat, and then
freezes. I must kill it.
If I follow ISP-HOWTO, when I start connect, I came back to login:
prompt. If I try this on Xterm, the window closes.
How can I regain power over ppp?. What could I have done?. I'm writing
this on the same machine using Windows.
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From: Jerry Lynn Kreps <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: New Microsoft News
Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 16:11:33 -0500
Mykool wrote:
>
> > No, stuff would cost alot less because of *competition*. Look at what linux
> > costs: next to nothing. That is the true market value of on OS, because
> > software is so easy to reproduce.
>
> Do you really think people would code for free all of the time? I don't
> know about you, but I've noticed that a lot of linux apps are written by
> students. I'm guessing they didn't do it for fun. Maybe they did it
> for a class. I don't know how much you've programmed before, but it's
Your guess would be wrong. A saw a study last fall, you can find it on
/., which analyzed the age and schooling of GNU and Linux programmers.
If I recall correctly, the majority were between 24 and 34 yrs old,
college graduates and working in computer related fields. Less than 20%
were students of any kind. Three percent were in my bracket: close to
60 yrs old with advanced college degrees.
--
JLK
Linux, because it's STABLE, the source code is included, the price is
right.
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From: Diane Adams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Linux Web Site for Newbies
Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 23:28:37 +0200
Hi,
I have set up a small web site with information and links for people new
to linux or for people who just want to know about the OS. Please take a
look and let me know what you think. I would also appreciate it ifsome
long time Linux users could take a look and let me know what you think I
should add. The address is:
http://www.angelfire.com/sc/linux/linux.html
Thanks
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From: Jerry Lynn Kreps <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Anyone tried compiling LinCity?
Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 16:25:47 -0500
Christian Cabal wrote:
>
> I got it to compile, then when I ran it, it
> first asks me for my mouse type, then crashes with a message like:
> IOCTL error, and i have to reboot
>
> Any ideas what's wrong? Could it be my video card?
> I have a ATI 3D Rage Pro.
>
> ------------------ Posted via SearchLinux ------------------
> http://www.searchlinux.com
I ran it as a binary. It runs nicely until the land space nearly fills
up or your standard of living allows for rocket travel. Then, it can
crash on occasions. Save your scene every so often. I compiled the
source to see if that would help, but it didn't.
Nice simulation though. Well worth the price! :-)
--
JLK
Linux, because it's STABLE, the source code is included, the price is
right.
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From: Jason Romo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: Graphics Blaster RIVA TNT,Redhat 5.2, X Installation
Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 14:02:26 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
You need to upgrade to XFree86-3.3.3.1.
Then run the Xconfigurator select the RIVA TNT card if you have an AGP.
If you have the PCI version it will detect it and run just fine.
Have Fun!
Jas Sandhu wrote:
> Hi
> I am trying to install Redhat 5.2.
> I have a Creative Labs Graphics Blaster RIVA TNT
> 16Mb SDRAM AGP Card.
> This card is not supported in the X windows
> setup (using Xconfigurator).
> I tried a couple of the other options (the memory
> only goes upto 8MB max for most of these), but all i get is errors
> when i try startx and back to the prompt
> Is there a driver for this card in Redhat 5.2.
> Does anybody have a solution for this, or am
> I missing something in the setup.
>
> can you please email me as well as the list.
> Thanks
> Jas
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From: Jerry Lynn Kreps <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: SuSE Subscription vs. SuSE 6.0
Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 16:00:01 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> I went to SuSE's site to order the CD... And they have two options.
> They say that the subscription contains the latest release, but when I click
> info about the subscription it tell me all about the features of 5.3
>
> Does anyone know off by hand if the subscription contains 6.0?
>
> Also.. if you have a sec.. what is the difference between ordering the
> subscription or just plainly ordering the release. I've heard the
> subscription is better.. but I want' told why, and if so I don't understand
> why it is cheaper.
>
> Any advice would be appretiated.
>
> -Gut
Gut,
I have been on SuSE subscription since last September. The only
difference is the price. You will receive exactly the same distribution
regardless. The subscription costs $34 US, otherwise it is $50 US. If
you purchase by subscription then when the next version comes out it is
automatically sent to you and your CC is billed for it. A convenience I
appreciate, since the SuSE distro contains 5 CDROMs, which includes two
installation CDs, one LIVE system CD and two CDs which contain
commerical demos like SO and APPLIX and the most recent versions of
about all the major GNU software (about 600 apps) on the Internet.
--
JLK
Linux, because it's STABLE, the source code is included, the price is
right.
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From: r d t@c s.q u e e n s u.c a (Bob Tennent)
Subject: Re: How do I install/use Ghostscript to print on my unsupported printer?
Date: 6 Apr 1999 19:04:16 GMT
On Mon, 05 Apr 1999 18:37:28 +1000, Roy Malcomess wrote:
>In the quest to find a printer driver for my Canon BJC-7000 printer, I
>found a reference to a Ghostscript device (Canon BJC-800) which
>supposedly supports my printer.
>
>I am completely in the dark about how to implement such support. Can
>someone please direct me to a reference which tells me what I have to do
>
>to install this Ghostscript support for my printer.
>
>Presumably, I have to install Ghostscript, but then what?
Do gs -h and check that the bjc800 driver has been compiled in; otherwise,
you'll have to look for another binary or compile your own.
>
>How does Ghostscript get used for printing?
It gets called as an "input filter" by the entry in /etc/printcap.
Check out the Printing-HOWTO.
>
>Where do I find Ghostscript?
You can get the latest version free for non-commercial use at
http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~ghost/index.html
>
>How do I install a printer so that Linux knows about it and uses
>Ghostscript as required?
>
If you plug in the printer cable, the kernel should detect it.
You then have to set up an /etc/printcap entry and a
/var/spool/lpd sub-directory. Distributions usually have
user-friendly tools to do this stuff for you. The HOWTO
explains it all.
Bob T.
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From: Jeremy Chatfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: Communicator 5.1 will not run with AccelX but works fine with
Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 17:28:01 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Have you installed the libs, or just the X server? I can't imagine any
way in which installing only the X server can cause Netscape to stop
working, especially with messages about nls files. I am quite happy to
believe that installing the libs from the Accelerated-X 5.0 CD will make
things happen, and some of them may well be unpleasant, given the
apparently random variations in Xlib conditional compilation on
different releases of different distributions.
Cheers, JeremyC.
Marc Britten wrote:
>
> had the same problem, something about AccelX5 is different, I'm assuming
> your using the libc version. There should be a glib version under
> unsupported. This works fine for me while the libc version gave me a bus
> error.
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
> > Eric Skup wrote:
> > >
> > > I have redhat 5.2 running kernel 2.2.4. I was running XFree86 for a
> > > while and I had no problems running Netscape Communicator 5.1. I
> > > recently installed AccelratedX 5 and since Communicator will not start.
> > > I have tried with different windows manager and I get the same problem
> > > (enligtenment, motif, kde, etc...):
> > >
> > > Netscape first gives me a message about /nls/ and that it may crash if
> > > text is pasted into it and the it gives me a Bus Error.
> > >
> > > It never gave me a message about nls/ before. I do have the nls dir in
> > > ..../lib/X11/nls/
> > >
> > > Has anyone ever senn this before? Is there a fix?
> > >
> > > Any help would be appreciated,
...
--
Jeremy Chatfield, Xi Graphics mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] tel:+44(0)1234.710030
Commercial X Products: Servers, CDE, contracts and custom development
http://www.xig.com ftp://ftp.xig.com/ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
tel:+1.303.298.7478 fax:+1.303.298.1406 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthias Warkus)
Subject: Re: PIM or other address book for Linux?
Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 00:07:25 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
It was the Tue, 06 Apr 1999 16:36:31 -0400...
..and Ted McDaniel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have looked at gaddress book and Korganizer. Are there any other PIM
> / address books for Linux that people would recommend? I don't care if
> it's X or console based.
GnomeCard is cool.
mawa
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From: "Sccoaire" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Web server setup...
Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 17:16:24 -0500
In my srm.conf file, i have this line:
UserDir public_html
And in the description above it says that that directive will a make it so
that users can have their web pages under http://domain/~user
It doesn't work for me. First of all, no public_html folder has been created
under the users, is that something that i have to do manually? Even for new
users? I don't quite understand that, can you let me know? Thanks,
Parsec
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.debian,comp.os.linux.sound
Subject: x11amp - is my sound configured properly?
From: Arcady Genkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 23:32:35 GMT
Hi all:
I've installed x11amp from the package x11amp_0.9a3-2.deb. Whenever it
tries to play an mp3 file, it gives an error message:
Couldn't open audio!
However, I can hear that it can adjust volume and ballance with its
controls (the background hissing increases/decreases when I play with
them).
Prior to that I had a static version of it installed (package
x11amp-static_0.7-1_i386.deb), and it played just fine...
I am not sure if my sound is configured properly. I have support for
my SB16 compiled into the kernel, and I get no boot-time complaints. I
can play CDs from my CD-Rom through the card by using the CD-Rom's
play button.
How can I test that my sound is configured properly? (Please don't
suggest sndconfig or whatever the name is, for Debian doesn't have it.)
Thanks!
--
Arcady Genkin
"I opened up my wallet, and it's full of blood..." - GsYDE
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From: "Captain Blood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Unresolved modules (symbols)
Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 18:34:08 -0500
After make config, and before make modules, do a make dep
just a hint...
Walter L. Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
>
> Yan Seiner wrote:
>
> > Make mrproper basically hoses all changes you had made to the system.
> > You need to follow that up with a make config ; make modules ; make
> > modules_install ; make zImage.
> >
> > It sounds like you left out the make modules or make modules_install
> > steps.
> >
> > Yan
> >
>
> Your right, I did'nt do that. Thanks for the info.
>
> Walt in Utah
>
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From: "Seti" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: SETI@home is now available for various UNIX platforms
Crossposted-To:
linux.redhat.misc,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc,comp.unix.solaris,comp.unix.sco.misc,comp.unix.aix,comp.sys.hp.hpux,comp.unix.osf.misc,comp.unix.ultrix,comp.unix.cray
Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 22:45:41 GMT
http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/cgi-bin/unix_cgi
Woohoo! The search for extra-terrestrial life begins, with the power of
the world's computers!
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From: Gerald Willmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Netscape Mail Sound
Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 15:23:19 -0700
On Tue, 6 Apr 1999, Pankil Richards wrote:
> Has anyone been able to make Netscape Communicator play a sound file
> when new mail arrives? (Something like what happens in the Win
> version(s) of Netscape.)
>
you could use tkdesk to achieve this and still read your mail with
netscape. I happen to use pine but it's tkdesk that has bugs bunny
cry out something about new mail over the stereo :)
GErald
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From: Ted McDaniel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: PIM or other address book for Linux?
Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 16:36:31 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I have looked at gaddress book and Korganizer. Are there any other PIM
/ address books for Linux that people would recommend? I don't care if
it's X or console based.
Any comments?
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From: Howard Mann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: message in /var/log/messages
Date: 6 Apr 1999 23:51:33 GMT
Hi All,
Here is an excerpt from my /var/log/messages :
Apr 5 20:20:27 localhost -- MARK --
Apr 5 20:40:27 localhost -- MARK --
Apr 5 21:00:27 localhost -- MARK --
Apr 5 21:20:27 localhost -- MARK --
Apr 5 21:40:28 localhost -- MARK --
This has recently appeared. Does anyone know what this might mean?
( I obviously do not know what the 20 min periodicity implies )
Thanks,
--
Howard Mann
http://www.newbielinux.com
(a LINUX website for newbies)
Smart Linuxers search at: http://www.dejanews.com/home_ps.shtml
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Best Cheapbytes CDRom
Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 22:59:48 GMT
I'd like to clean up my RH 5.2 system by completely reinstalling
it, this time from CD. Could anyone offer advice on the best
choice to buy from Cheapbytes?
I don't really need source code, but I _would_ like to get a CD with:
1) Window Managers - Are Enlightenment, Windowmaker (etc.) RPMs
ever included on CDs to simplify their installation?
2) commercial software packages, or simple goodies, on the dist'n.
Asked another way: What's the best CD to buy for ease-of-installation
(and on a student budget), if a quickly-installed 'out of the box'
system with Windowmaker or Enlightenment is my end goal?
As always, TIA!
Glenn
~
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From: "Markus Pickartz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.misc
Subject: Re: Broken MBR
Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 15:19:03 -0700
I don't know what it will do to your NT/Linux boot, but you can restore the
MBR using good old DOS FDISK. Just run "fdisk /mbr" which will restore the
MBR. I think it should do the trick since the partition is still FAT. Of
course, if you can't do sh#t with the system right now as it is, it might be
well worth the risk.
--
Markus Pickartz
Support Systems Analyst
Ross-Blakley Law Library
Arizona State University
P.O. Box 877806
Tempe, AZ 82587-7806
Fax: (480) 965-4283
Phone: (480) 965-7573
E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.lawlib.asu.edu/users/markusp
ICQ UIN: 905089
Antti Iivanainen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:7edb6f$btd$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Moving everything down by two bytes will not work. The partition table
> itself at 0x1be-0x1fd seems to be ok with the exception of 2 bytes at
> 0x1c0-0x1c1. However, MBR is loaded with 2-byte dublications which might
> relect a two-byte move upwords at some point. What is in the beginning of
> MBR before the partition table? I have tried to look for pointers to the
> contents of the first part of MBR but have not found any.
>
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