Linux-Misc Digest #778, Volume #18 Wed, 27 Jan 99 03:13:09 EST
Contents:
SMP-machine freezes with high load (Thilo Salmon)
Re: shadow and passwd (Steeve)
Re: Running HP-UX applications under Linux? (Steeve)
Re: Linux defrag? (Michael Kelly)
Re: Can I run a DOS Device Driver in an emulator ("Frank T. Lofaro")
Re: Intel Chip IDs (Kenneth Hunt)
Re: Advice for Microsoft-haters (eagle95)
Re: Play but no record using SB support (Jesse Pavel)
Re: PPP is driving me crazy !!!! Plese help me (Bill Unruh)
Re: kernel 2.20 problem (ty)
Re: Advice for Microsoft-haters (Johan Kullstam)
Re: 2.2.0 and no sound / esstype-2.2.0.diff patch (Michel Catudal)
Re: kernel 2.20 problem (Michel Catudal)
Re: Applix/ELF bug workaround needed in charting ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Newbie Question (Howard Mann)
Re: realaudio heavy CPU loading (Daniel R Creveling)
Re: realaudio heavy CPU loading (Daniel R Creveling)
Re: realaudio heavy CPU loading (Daniel R Creveling)
Re: SMP-machine freezes with high load (Tim Moore)
Re: Linux or FreeBSD? (Daniel Tso)
Re: X11 server ("Bobby D. Bryant")
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From: Thilo Salmon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: SMP-machine freezes with high load
Date: 27 Jan 1999 02:31:57 GMT
Hello,
I'm running a slightly changed SuSE 5.3 distribution (kernel 2.0.35) on
a Dual-PII machine on the Internet. It runs a few virtual web servers
(apache) with moderate load. At times I use it to distribute a rather huge
newsletter (SmartList). After being up for almost 2 month the machine froze
when I tried to send out my newsletter. The weird thing is that it handled
an average load of 1.5 quite well (peaks up to 4.0) for three hours and then
crashed. The same thing happened, when I temporarily ran a webserver with
quite some traffic (approx. 200.000 Hits a day, lots of perl-processing and
mysqld-queries) - it worked fine for one day and then crashed.
I tried to find something unusual in the logs, but everything looked just
normal. I have no clue where to look now. Am i facing hardware problems or is
it a problem w/ the stability of SMP?
Ciao
Thilo
--
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steeve)
Subject: Re: shadow and passwd
Date: 26 Jan 1999 21:33:44 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Carl Gray ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> I am running Linux, Redhat 5.1 using PAM shadow. I am having problems
> making the password program accept semi-decent passwords (it is very
> picky right now). This is my /etc/pam.d/passwd file:
> #%PAM-1.0
> auth required /lib/security/pam_pwdb.so shadow nullok
> account required /lib/security/pam_pwdb.so
> password optional /lib/security/pam_cracklib.so retry=3
> password required /lib/security/pam_pwdb.so use_authtok nullok
> Any suggestions about how to make password checking any easier?
Nope. Semi-decent passwords don't fly these days. You
might want to check parc.power.net/morgan/Linux-PAM if
you're intent on bypassing password pickiness (or set
passwords as root)
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steeve [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Maybe in order to understand mankind, we have to look at the word
itself. Mankind. Basically it's mad up of two separate words -- "mank"
and "ind." What do these words mean? It's a mystery, and that's why so
is mankind. -- Jack Handey
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steeve)
Subject: Re: Running HP-UX applications under Linux?
Date: 26 Jan 1999 21:40:51 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Henry Zheng (C) (hzheng@PROBLEM_WITH_INEWS_GATEWAY_FILE) wrote:
> I am running RedHat 5.2 at home and HP-UX 10.20 at work.
> I would like to run some of the applications for HP-UX 10.20.
> Does anyone know whether this is possible under Linux?
Depends what applications you're talking about, I suppose.
If you can get an x86 linux version of the program on
the HP-UX box then no problem.
--
steeve [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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IT'S EASY to sit and scoff at an old man's folly. But also, check out
his Adam's apple! -- Jack Handey
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Kelly)
Subject: Re: Linux defrag?
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 16:12:38 -0500
On 25 Jan 1999 13:33:33 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David E. Fox) wrote:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Michael Kelly wrote:
>>after a while you definitely see improvement from running defrag. When my
>>ext2 partitions starting reporting 8% and higher fragmentation in fsck I got
>
>I've had larger numbers on some of my partitions from fsck, but I only have
>run defrag once, and that was a long time ago. I think you see "improvement"
>in the sense that typically you will have lower fragmentation percentages
>after running defrag. However, I don't think in practice that you can
>"feel" that the system needs to be defragmented like you can under
>FAT-based systems.
I can feel it just fine the next time I boot my machine. The boot is much faster
and smoother. As I said, ext2 is less prone to fragmentation than FAT, but
it still benefits from being defragged.
Mike
"Genius gives birth, talent delivers."
- Jack Kerouac
(remove NOSPAM from address, if present, to reply)
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From: "Frank T. Lofaro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.development,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Can I run a DOS Device Driver in an emulator
Date: 27 Jan 1999 05:58:51 GMT
In comp.os.linux.development.system Gerard van der Sel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>"Norm Dresner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>#
># I have a special video card that needs to be initialized by a DOS device
># driver. There's nothing else available (unless you count windoze). (For
># the curious, it's a Targa+ overlay card.)
>#
># Once the initialization is done, I could throw DOS away and run CP/M-86
># (only joking).
>#
># I might be able to boot DOS, initialize the board, and then boot Linux, but
># that stinks, especially if I have to modify the settings.
>#
># Is there any way that I can call (perhaps hack up a DOS-style
># load-device-driver-from-the-command-line program) the driver from a DOS
># emulator in Linux to do the job.
>#
># All suggestions, hints, and even sympathy, gratefully accepted.
>#
># Norm D.
>#
>See the Linux <-> Windows HOWTO.
>You can initialise any card in Dos/Windows and then use a batch file to
>start Linux.
>In short:
>Copy LoadLin.exe and the kernel "vmlinuz" to your DOS/Windows
>enviroment.
>Make a batch file with the following contents:
>loadlin.exe vmlinuz root=<linux boot>
>for my system it is:
>e:\linux\loadlin.exe e:\linux\vmlinuz root=/dev/hdb8
>(I am using Red Hat 5.2, kernel 2.0.37)
>--
>Met vriendelijke groet,
Please READ the post you are replying to.
He does NOT want to boot DOS or Windoze!
Except from an emulation session inside Linux, if needed.
I know it would be best if he got hardware docs...
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From: Kenneth Hunt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Intel Chip IDs
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 13:48:03 -0800
Seth Van Oort wrote:
> Intel said users can turn the feature off easily, but the chip is
> built
> to immediately broadcast an identifying serial number as soon as it is
> connected to the Internet.
>
> ***
>
> Okay, what's this? How can the chip tell if it's connected to the net?
Look it up on CNN's website dude. It's true. Although Intel is now
backing down with some of the features.
--
======================================================
Kenneth Hunt
SC S12 V321 Rm. C233
office: 364-7755 pager: 715-0600
======================================================
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From: eagle95 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Advice for Microsoft-haters
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 16:24:14 -0600
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
true, perhaps, but again..way off topic dontcha think?
pdohert wrote:
> Benjamin A. Rosenberg wrote:
> >
> > d00d,
> >
> > Go take your flag waving somewhere else..I work for a large beer maker
> > who shall not be named..AB...heh...and I visit lots of plants all over
> > the country making them y2k compliant and rolling out NT ( not my choice
> > ). I have heard these average americans call us " them thinkin boys with
> > the computers " So don't tell me that the average American can wipe his
> > own ass well, because that would be wrong. It was the above average
> > American that has done what you said. For the most part people are sheep
> > and should be kept as far away from computers and the net as possible...
> >
> > oh anyways..end of soapbox...
>
> No offense but I'll take my "flag-waving" wherever I please, thank you
> very much. It may be true that we computer people don't represent the
> average on pretty much any metric but that doesn't remove the fact that
> some people are attempting to beat up on *our* average American as being
> something less than someone else's average. I'm merely stating that we
> must be doing something right... and BTW most of these people's
> information leading them to the conclusion that there is something
> *wrong* with US education because our high schoolers don'r fare
> particularly well against their other-country counterparts probably fail
> to take into consideration that many countries do not do as we do.
> Namely we attempt to put *everyone* through 12 years of schooling while
> many countries weed out the weaker students around 7th or 8th grade and
> keep only the top 25% or so in publicly-funded schooling which has two
> effects:
>
> 1) Raises their apparent "average" since it's now based on their
> top-tier students.
> 2) Generates a competetive atmosphere in schools since there aren't
> enough publicly-funded slots for everyone students must compete if they
> want one of them (an excellent idea IMHO).
>
> --
>
> Paul Doherty
> Systems Analyst/Programmer
> http://www.dfw.net/~pdoherty
> Home of PC DiskMaster
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From: Jesse Pavel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Play but no record using SB support
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 01:43:39 -0500
Finally, I figured out the problem, and solved it by
changing the IRQ and playing with isapnp.conf.
- Jesse
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: PPP is driving me crazy !!!! Plese help me
Date: 26 Jan 1999 22:53:16 GMT
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Giovanni Chierico
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
]Hi everybody, I've been trying to set up a PPP connection,
]but it doesn't work.
]This is how it goes:
]I use EZPPP to connnect, it dials the number, sends the right login and
]password, the server starts the ppp connection ( i see all those symbols
]like {{())
Where do you see those? You should not see them-- they should be private
conversations between the two ppps.
]ping with 195.223.189.119 works fine while ping with 151.99.104.178
]doesn't work at all!!!
If ping works you have a connection!!. Now try
ping 137.82.1.1
say.
If that works, try ping hub.ubc.ca
If that does not work while the former does, you do not have a proper
name server set up. Find out what your ISPs nameserver is. Phone them,
and ask.
]and this is the /etc/resolv.conf:
]search crown-net.com
Why this line? This is the domain which is tagged to end of any address
with fewer than one dot in in befor name lookup occurs.
]nameserver 151.99.104.178
If you cannot ping the nameserver by number, it will NEVER work as a
nameserver. Find out the right number. Do not guess.
]I really don't know about the nameserver, my ISP never gave me that number.
]I figured out that was the server number because it's the one that always comes
]out
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From: ty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: kernel 2.20 problem
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 00:32:30 -0600
Hi,
Thank you very much! I got the patch, but couldn't apply it. I issued the
command:
bzip2 -dc patch-2.2.0-ac1.bz2 | patch -p0
and always got a .rej file. Could you please tell me what's the problem?
Ken Witherow wrote:
> ty wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I just compiled kernel 2.20, and got the following error message. Does
> > anyone know what's the problem and how to correct it?
> >
> > ld -m elf_i386 -T /usr/src/linux/arch/i386/vmlinux.lds -e stext
> > arch/i386/kernel/head.o arch/i386/kernel/init_task.o init/main.o
> > init/version.o \
> > --start-group \
> > arch/i386/kernel/kernel.o arch/i386/mm/mm.o kernel/kernel.o
> > mm/mm.o fs/fs.o ipc/ipc.o \
> > fs/filesystems.a \
> > net/network.a \
> > drivers/block/block.a drivers/char/char.a drivers/misc/misc.a
> > drivers/net/net.a drivers/scsi/scsi.a drivers/cdrom/cdrom.a
> > drivers/sound/sound.a drivers/pci/pci.a drivers/pnp/pnp.a
> > drivers/video/video.a \
> > /usr/src/linux/arch/i386/lib/lib.a /usr/src/linux/lib/lib.a
> > /usr/src/linux/arch/i386/lib/lib.a \
> > --end-group \
> > -o vmlinux
> > drivers/sound/sound.a(sb_ess.o): In function `ess_init':
> > sb_ess.o(.text+0xde2): undefined reference to `esstype'
> > sb_ess.o(.text+0xe77): undefined reference to `esstype'
> > make: *** [vmlinux] Error 1
>
> Get alan cox' patch from ftp://ftp.linux.org.uk/pub/linux/alan/2.2
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Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Advice for Microsoft-haters
From: Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 25 Jan 1999 18:02:44 -0500
Irv Mullins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> <snip>Hey, don't forget that it has been scientifically proven that exactly half
> of all Americans are at or below average intelligence. You don't want
> half of America angry at you, do you?
no they aren't. half are below (or above) median. the average need
not be the median.
--
Johan Kullstam [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Don't Fear the Penguin!
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From: Michel Catudal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 2.2.0 and no sound / esstype-2.2.0.diff patch
Date: 27 Jan 1999 01:19:01 -0600
Dr. Greanthumb wrote:
>
> Because i get no sound with 2.2.0 (real final version, not pre9;-) i used
> the ess...-patch with "patch -p1 ..." but i still get no sound. I tried to
> compile the sound module into the kernel, but compilation stopped, compiling
> as a module did work, but there�s no sound on my SB 16 (ISA). Did i use a
> wrong syntax with the patch command ?
I downloaded the full package and get an error on compile as well.
The pre9 does work. I don't understand why it was released with the broken
sound like that, it doesn't look very good.
--
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From: Michel Catudal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: kernel 2.20 problem
Date: 27 Jan 1999 01:19:01 -0600
Ken Witherow wrote:
>
>
> Get alan cox' patch from ftp://ftp.linux.org.uk/pub/linux/alan/2.2
Anyway to get a regular .gz patch, this one gives me errors
What is the proper syntax?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.applixware
Subject: Re: Applix/ELF bug workaround needed in charting
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 07:06:29 GMT
I wrote:
> I have Linux Office 99 (e.g. Applix 4.4.1) running on my RedHat Linux 5.2
> system, and am running into the following problem: I select "Record Macro"
> from the main menu (that first window you get when things start up). I then
> start the spreadsheet, enter some numbers, select them, create a chart and
> double-click on that chart. Graphics comes up, and I then File->Export the
> image to GIF.
>
> This all works, but when I save the macro and run it from the command-line
> (e.g. "applix -macro mymacroname"), Graphics gives me an error, saying that
> it cannot export the image. The Graphics window at this point is blank, but
> if I close it, and double-click on the chart, I can save the image manually.
I have a response for those who care, and more problems: Known bug in
Applixware. The bug is:
You need to replace the SS_START_INSET@ with GR_EXPORT_GIF89@.
Now, my problem is that no matter what I do, I cannot get the whole legend to
fit in the resulting image. No matter what dimensions I make the image in the
spreadsheet, the exported image comes out chopped. If I could just solve this,
Applixware would solve all of my problems (well, except for the fact that I
drool on my pillow...)
-AJS
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From: Howard Mann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Newbie Question
Date: 26 Jan 1999 23:09:02 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Merman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Just installed Redhat 5.2. Don't have too much trouble installing RPMs,
> but having lots of trouble with anything that requires I run configure
> and make. Every app src I get from the GTK archive including installing
> the latest GTK libs, I get the same errors. One of the rpm requires
> newer vers of gtk to run, but i can't even get the new libs installed.
> I get the following when I run ./configure
>
> # ./configure
> loading cache ./config.cache
> checking for a BSD compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c
> checking whether build environment is sane... yes
> checking whether make sets ${MAKE}... no
> checking for working aclocal... missing
> checking for working autoconf... missing
> checking for working automake... missing
> checking for working autoheader... missing
> checking for working makeinfo... missing
> checking whether to enable maintainer-specific portions of Makefiles...
> no
> checking for gcc... no
> checking for cc... no
> configure: error: no acceptable cc found in $PATH
> #
>
> What am I doing wrong? Is there something that I need to configure?
>
> Any help is greatly appreciated.
>
I suspect you did not install the C and C++ development components when you initially
installed Linux.
You need all these to compile programs from source code.
Cheers,
--
Howard Mann
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.xmission.com/~howardm
(a LINUX website for newbies)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Daniel R Creveling)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: realaudio heavy CPU loading
Date: 27 Jan 1999 07:11:48 GMT
I don't think it's your hardware. I had the same problem
with RealAudio on my K6-233 and on some Dell's at school.
When the machines are running Windows everything is fine,
but when you play the same .rm file in Linux the machine just
about crashes. I think the Linux version of RealAudio is
just not up to speed with the other (Mac & Windows) versions.
Of course, if anyone knows how to fix this problem then
please help me too!
Dan
Kelvin Leung ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: Hello,
: I got my RH 5.2 running with Ensoniq PCI sound card. I have the alsa
: sound driver works fine. Both X11amp and Realaudio can produce sound
: out. But the RealAudio heavily load my CPU (K6-166 overclocked to 200).
: The audio is interrupted everytime I change to another window , or
: browsing within Netscape. I got the CPU load monitor fire up and it
: seems the CPU is fully occupied! I don't think it's the CPU problem 'cos
: I don't have problem with X11amp, also the Realaudio (not G2) in Windows
: in the same machine. Is that a fact or just my system doing weird!?
: Kelvin
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Daniel R Creveling)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: realaudio heavy CPU loading
Date: 27 Jan 1999 07:19:09 GMT
I don't think it's your hardware. I have the same problem
on my K6-233 and on some dell's at school. When the
machines are running Windows everything is fine, but when
I play the same .rm file on Linux and the machine just about
crashes. I have only used RealPlayer on RedHat though, so
maybe it's a problem specific to RH. I'll have to try it on
a different distribution. I really think that the Linux
version of RealPlayer is just not up to speed with the rest
of the versions (Win and Mac).
Just my $0.02,
Dan
Kelvin Leung ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: Hello,
: I got my RH 5.2 running with Ensoniq PCI sound card. I have the alsa
: sound driver works fine. Both X11amp and Realaudio can produce sound
: out. But the RealAudio heavily load my CPU (K6-166 overclocked to 200).
: The audio is interrupted everytime I change to another window , or
: browsing within Netscape. I got the CPU load monitor fire up and it
: seems the CPU is fully occupied! I don't think it's the CPU problem 'cos
: I don't have problem with X11amp, also the Realaudio (not G2) in Windows
: in the same machine. Is that a fact or just my system doing weird!?
: Kelvin
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Daniel R Creveling)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: realaudio heavy CPU loading
Date: 27 Jan 1999 07:21:05 GMT
Sorry about the multiple posts. It seemed to me at first
that my first one didn't go through. Sorry.
Dan
Daniel R Creveling ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: I don't think it's your hardware. I have the same problem
: on my K6-233 and on some dell's at school. When the
: machines are running Windows everything is fine, but when
: I play the same .rm file on Linux and the machine just about
: crashes. I have only used RealPlayer on RedHat though, so
: maybe it's a problem specific to RH. I'll have to try it on
: a different distribution. I really think that the Linux
: version of RealPlayer is just not up to speed with the rest
: of the versions (Win and Mac).
: Just my $0.02,
: Dan
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Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 23:33:24 -0800
From: Tim Moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: SMP-machine freezes with high load
> Am i facing hardware problems or is it a problem w/ the stability of SMP?
2.2.0
http://www.linuxhq.com/
http://www-stu.calvin.edu/~clug/users/jnieho38/goto22.html
--
[Replies: remove the dot(s)]
"Everything is permitted. Nothing is forbidden."
WS Burroughs.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Daniel Tso)
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: Linux or FreeBSD?
Date: 26 Jan 1999 23:37:04 PST
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Dean Lombardo
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>NT not stable? Well, maybe you're not using it properly! (I'm quoting
>Bill Gate$ here - see http://www.cantrip.org/nobugs.html). In my
>experience, you must keep NT fresh by rebooting it every now and again
>(the usual bluescreen reboots aside). Otherwise, the memory leaks will
>eventually use up all your memory and bring the system to a halt.
>Although I once had an NT box running a Web server for almost two months
>without a reboot! That is to say, I only rebooted it to install
>FreeBSD... when I personally discovered that a poor little 486 with 16Mb
>of RAM running FreeBSD beat the crap out of memory-happy NT running on a
>fast Pentium.
I have the exact same experience. I use NT for my desktop and I *try*
to leave it up 24/7 (the idea of constant rebooting is nauseating). But NT's
memory leaks cause it to ramp up quickly in memory usage and eventually (about
once every week, I *must* reboot it to get back an acceptable
response/performance).
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From: "Bobby D. Bryant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: X11 server
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 17:39:41 -0600
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I have a trident 975 AGP video card and would like to know which X server
> supports this type of card.
> Thanks
See if it's listed at http://www.xfree86.org/cardlist.html.
Bobby Bryant
Austin, Texas
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