Linux-Misc Digest #778, Volume #27 Fri, 4 May 01 16:13:02 EDT
Contents:
Re: inetd.conf ("Peter T. Breuer")
ICQ ohne rootrechte? (Patrick Fischer)
Re: kppp! connection not responding.. (Bill Unruh)
Re: Gnome/X: Can no longer login under my username (aflinsch)
bind control left (Michael Boyd)
swap space size on RH 7.1 (Dave Brown)
Re: copy&paste and pine (Bill)
Re: newbie 'top' question (Mathieu Brabant)
Re: network neighbourhood and subnets. (Chad Whitten)
Re: HPFS (Markus Kossmann)
Re: Pentium133 down for the count?? (Jonadab the Unsightly One)
Re: clear bootflag of /dev/hda2 (2nd try) (peter pilsl)
Re: clear bootflag of /dev/hda2 (2nd try) (peter pilsl)
Re: inetd.conf ("Kenny@BUI")
Good web based mail server? (Jeff)
Re: newbie 'top' question ("Mr. Sunray")
Re: Backups (Dave Brown)
Functions plotter (Reto Wigger)
Re: Good web based mail server? (Vilmos Soti)
Re: Functions plotter (Kwan Lowe)
Redhat Installtion Problem.. always looks lin the wrong place.. ("AK")
Re: HP Products disapoining in Linux - was Linux vs Microsoft ("Matt O'Toole")
time adjustment (wroot)
Re: HP Products disapoining in Linux - was Linux vs Microsoft ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: newbie 'top' question ("Mr. Sunray")
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: inetd.conf
Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 16:50:19 +0200
In comp.os.linux.misc Kenny@BUI <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> ok I saw xinetd.conf .
> in inetd.conf there was a line for swat that you had to uncomment. where do
> I uncomment that line?
man xinetd. It's not xinetd.conf you want! Look in xinet.d/.
> I saw in /etc/services a line with swat already uncommented. but Netscape
> does not access swat returning a broken pipe error.
Hardly surprising if it's not being started. But why is swat listed in
services? Are you connecting to a secure port? I seem to remember that
the swat README instructions were detailed as to what one shoudl do ..
but I must say I have never found swat in the least bit useful! Far
easier to edit smb.conf yourself.
Peter
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From: Patrick Fischer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: ICQ ohne rootrechte?
Date: Fri, 04 May 2001 17:36:19 +0200
Hallo
Ich habe bei uns in der FH Rechte auf dem Linux Rechnern.
Ich wollte bei mir ICQ oder einen Clone installieren. Nat�rlich habe ich
keine root rechte. Leider braucht aber fast jeder Clone die rootrechte.
Kennt jemand einen Clone der keine rootrechte braucht?
Patrick
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh)
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux.mandrake,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.setup,free.comp.linux.misc
Subject: Re: kppp! connection not responding..
Date: 4 May 2001 16:46:29 GMT
Front ends (like kppp) cause more trouble than they are worth. Can it is
myu first suggestion.
Then if you want to ignore that advice,
route -n
to see what the routes are set up. Is there a default route?
cat /etc/resolv.conf
to tell you what the dns resolver setup is. Do both of these while ppp
is running.
In <9ctn63$2hc$[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "plato" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
] i just set up my modem to work with Linux Mandrake 7.1. the connection
]works when i run it from LinuxConf (ppp/slip/plip) but not from kppp. in
]kppp, the connection is established BUT nothing works! i tried netscape and
]it
]couldn't open any site. i thought it's a DNS problem, but when i tried to
]ping a machine i know from the console, it didn't reply. my kppp settings
]are as follows:
]authentication: PAP
]pppd arguments: noauth
]IP: Dynamic IP Address
]Auto-configure hostname from this IP: Unchecked
]DNS: tried to leave it empty and to put in a couple of DNSs
]Disable existing DNS Servers during Connection: Unchecked
]Domain Name: empty
]Gateway: Default Gateway
]Assign the Default Route to this Gateway: Checked
]Login Script: None
]Device: /dev/modem (i know it's working)
]Flow Control: CRTSCTS
]Line Terminator: CR
]Connection Speed: 57600
]Use Lock File: Checked
]Modem Timeout: 60 Seconds
]Modem Busy Wait: 0 Seconds
]PPP Timeout: 30 Seconds
]any ideas??
]karim
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From: aflinsch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Gnome/X: Can no longer login under my username
Date: Fri, 04 May 2001 12:36:23 -0400
David Wake wrote:
>
> Hi: I'm using RedHat 7.0 with Gnome. Everything was running fine
> until I did a CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE while running in Gnome/X under my own
> login (david). Now, whenever I try to login on Gnome/X as david, the
> computer acts like it's going to start Gnome, but instead it switches
> to the console screen (by "console screen" I mean what you get when
> you type CTRL+ALT+F1 on RedHat). However, I can login as root at
> Gnome/X and it's fine.
>
I have had somethins similar hapen to me, only difference was blackbox
vs gnome, but the problem might be the same. Some rogue application
filled up my /home partition (by dumping lots of crap to
.xsession-errors). Since /home and /root were on different partitions,
I was able to log in as root, but not as any user. All I needed to do
was delete the offending file, and all was well.
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From: Michael Boyd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: bind control left
Date: Fri, 04 May 2001 17:59:12 +0100
Hi,
Does any one know how to bind <CTRL>-<LEFT> in bash. I'm using RedHat
7.0 with bash 2.04.11(1).
After reading the bash man I tried the obvious:
>bind -q backward-word
backward-word can be invoked via "\eOd", "\eb".
>bind '"\C-\e[D": backward-word'
backward-word can be invoked via "\eOd", "\eb", "\C-\e[D".
This doesn't work. I'd guess that what this really means is
<CTRL>-<ESC> followed by "[" followed by "D" (which doesn't work).
It has occurred to me that the problem may be due to the fact that bash
is just receiving ASCII characters and doesn't know anything about the
state of the control key itself. As <CTRL>-<ESC> doesn't have an ASCII
code "\C-\e..." is meaningless to bind. As bash receives <ESC>[D from
the left arrow with or without <CTRL> I guess there's no way to bind
<CTRL>-<LEFT>.
I guess I need to go below bash and somehow make the system send
something else for <CTRL>-<LEFT> to the console. Given the output of
"bind -q backward-word" I wouldn't be too surprised if the console
should be receiving "\eOd" for <CTRL>-<LEFT>.
Am I right so far and if so how do I go about altering what the console
receives?
or:
Am I talking complete bollocks and if so, how do I bind <CTRL>-<LEFT> in
bash?
Thanks,
Mike Boyd
PSA Parts Ltd
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dave Brown)
Subject: swap space size on RH 7.1
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 4 May 2001 12:35:47 -0500
The release notes for RH 7.1 indicate that the 2.4 kernel loves
lots of swap space. They recommend 2x Real Memory up to 256MB!
(They caution that installer will not create more than 2GB of swap
space, you'll have to do that on your own.)
This sounds crazy for a workstation! What is going on in swap space?
--
Dave Brown Austin, TX
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From: Bill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: copy&paste and pine
Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 03:21:40 +1000
Hi
I cannot copy/cut paste in Pine when in rxvt. How do you manage to do
this locally ?
TIA
Bill.
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From: Mathieu Brabant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: newbie 'top' question
Date: Fri, 04 May 2001 17:30:06 -0000
The command 'top -b | head -n19' will print the first 10 process that top
returns.
M@
Daniel Berger wrote:
>
>
> Hi all,
>
> Redhat 6.2.
>
> I'm trying to capture the output of the 'top' command on . I want the
first
> 10 results. In solaris I can do 'top -d 1 10'. In linux, I know I can
> capture the output, but I'm not clear from the man pages on how to limit
the
> number of results. Please help. Thanks.
>
> Regards,
>
> Dan
>
>
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Date: Fri, 04 May 2001 11:51:41 -0500
From: Chad Whitten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: network neighbourhood and subnets.
make sure in your /etc/smb.conf you have
hosts allow = 192.168.1. 192.168.10.
"Kenny@BUI" wrote:
>
> hello,
> we have two lans. the ips on one lan is 192.168.1.??? and on other lan
> 192.168.10.???.
> the linux box is 192.168.1.1. a router configuration connects the two lans.
> every computer in both lans can see the linux box in network neighbourhood,
> however only the local lan computers can actually double click and go into
> the linux computer. the remote computers when they double click are prompted
> for a password. this error is similar to when the win98 computers login name
> has to be added to the linux box.
> any suggestions?
>
> thank you,
> kenny.
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Chad Whitten
Network/Systems Administrator
Nexband Communications
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From: Markus Kossmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: HPFS
Date: Fri, 04 May 2001 18:38:15 +0200
John Thompson wrote:
>
> Corne Beerse wrote:
>
> > Chris West wrote:
> > >
> > > Is anyone aware of a HPFS format program for linux?
> > > Also is there a way of writing HPFS extended file attributes from a program?
> >
> > No, I have heard about HPFS in 2 ways:
> > - HPFS on HP-UX as in HP's own File system. As far as I know, is it a
> > Harddisk filesystem
> > - HPFS on Apple (MAC's?) where it is an CD-Rom file system.
> >
> > As far as I know, there is some support for the latter one in the CD-Rom
> > section of the kernel.
>
> I believe the original poster is referring to OS/2's HPFS
> filesystem. The stock linux kernel includes read-only support
> for HPFS filesystems. There are other patches to give read/write
> support for HPFS.
That's true for 2.2 and older kernels. 2.4.x has R/W support out of the
box.
> Isn't the Mac's filesystem "HFS"?
Yes.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jonadab the Unsightly One)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Pentium133 down for the count??
Date: Fri, 04 May 2001 17:48:54 GMT
"Monte Milanuk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[snip]
Sounds to me like an IDE drive isn't being detected properly
by the BIOS. That will cause massive slowness along with
problems with the drive. Check all your IDE cables and
reseat them; also check the power cables to all your IDE
devices and make sure the drives are all still jumpered
correctly (master/slave/whatever). If you moved recently,
something could have come loose during the move. Unplug
and replug everything.
HTH.
- jonadab
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From: peter pilsl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: clear bootflag of /dev/hda2 (2nd try)
Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 19:58:39 +0200
In article <9cu8kt$gqu$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
>
> try `./activate --help`
>
I dont think this activate-script is intended for public use ;)
There is no help-feature, but thanx to your help, I changed PART_ACTIVE to
PART_INACTIVE and recompiled and have a working 'deactivate' now !!
yippie ...
thanx,
peter
ps: I'll take this a last warning to learn C and will extend this
activate.c
--
pilsl@
goldfisch.at
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From: peter pilsl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: clear bootflag of /dev/hda2 (2nd try)
Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 20:06:19 +0200
>
> I dont think this activate-script is intended for public use ;)
> There is no help-feature, but thanx to your help, I changed PART_ACTIVE to
> PART_INACTIVE and recompiled and have a working 'deactivate' now !!
>
I'm such an idiot ;)
its so easy: you can deactivate a partition by activating another
partition using activate. This seems to be a tool for dos-targets, where
you can only have one active partition at a time.
so 'my' created deavtivate will delete the bootflag on every partition.
But this would be easy to remove in the source (its a for-construction
that is even readable for non-C-people ;)
peter
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From: "Kenny@BUI" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: inetd.conf
Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 14:43:20 -0400
here is the swat file in /xinetd.d/swat.
# default: off
# description: SWAT is the Samba Web Admin Tool. Use swat \
# to configure your Samba server. To use SWAT, \
# connect to port 901 with your favorite web browser.
service swat
{
disable = no
port = 901
socket_type = stream
wait = no
only_from = localhost
user = root
server = /usr/sbin/swat
log_on_failure += USERID
}
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From: Jeff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux
Subject: Good web based mail server?
Date: Fri, 04 May 2001 13:55:17 -0500
I'm running RH7.1 amd am looking for a good Web based mail-server app.
Any favorites or suggestions?
Thanks
Jeff
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From: "Mr. Sunray" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: newbie 'top' question
Date: Fri, 04 May 2001 13:59:28 -0500
Mathieu Brabant wrote:
> The command 'top -b | head -n19' will print the first 10 process that top
> returns.
Ok - so basically you're telling me that it's not possible in the Linux 'top'
command directly. Cheater. ;)
Thanks.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dave Brown)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: Backups
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 4 May 2001 14:15:12 -0500
Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Since I've started a dialog here, my next question is backing up.
>
> As I stated elsewhere, I've got a duplicate HD (/dev/hdb), partitioned
> like the root FS (/dev/hda). I can copy everything over.
> (only updating based on dates, etc...)
>
> I could also TAR everything into one big file, onto that drive
> as well. I could also gzip things up onto there, etc...
> (I figure my zip drive is too small, and I'd have to break
> things up into smaller files if I wanted to use it for everything)
An advantage to "tarring" vs cp-ing: create the archive file, compressing
as needed. Keep at least one additional backup. If you go the cp route,
you overwrite the previous backup, potentially with a corrupted file that
you don't know about. When you discover the corruption, it's too late
to retrieve from a good backup...
--
Dave Brown Austin, TX
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From: Reto Wigger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Functions plotter
Date: 4 May 2001 19:05:01 GMT
hi
Does anybody know a good functions plotter under linux.
A print feature should implemented. And would like to print the function in
the metrical system (centimeter):
^
f(x):y |_
|_
|_
|_
|_
|_ 1cm 2cm 3cm.........
|____|____|____|____|____|____|____|____|____|____|__>
i hope you check that :-)
rewi
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Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Good web based mail server?
From: Vilmos Soti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Fri, 04 May 2001 19:17:34 GMT
Jeff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I'm running RH7.1 amd am looking for a good Web based mail-server app.
> Any favorites or suggestions?
What do you mean by web based mail server?
If you are looking for a web based email client (so you can check your
email through the web remotely), then take a look at the Horde project.
http://www.horde.org IIRC.
Vilmos
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From: Kwan Lowe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Functions plotter
Date: Fri, 04 May 2001 19:21:10 GMT
Reto Wigger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Does anybody know a good functions plotter under linux.
> A print feature should implemented. And would like to print the function in
> the metrical system (centimeter):
You can try gnuplot. It can output to postscript (for feeding to lpr, etc) or
ASCII (for emails and suchlike). Use the terminal type of "dumb" for ascii
graphs. You can also specify the graph legends, axes, etc.. It's the most
versatile graphing program there is.
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From: "AK" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Redhat Installtion Problem.. always looks lin the wrong place..
Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 20:42:11 +0100
OK this is strange and got me confused.
Downloaded REDHAT 7.1 ISOS.
Burnt both CDs.. and now.. I have 48speed CD x 16 DVD
Toshiba SD1502 DVD ROM.
Anyway the installation refuses to boot if my CDWriter is
enabled via the BIOS... once disabled.... it boots fine.
But when it comes to the installation of the packages..
it looks at the CDwriter, which it didn't boot from and
has NO CD in .. wtf going on here?
Anyway so I thought Id try it the otherway round..boot from
CDWriter and disabled DVDROM... it does the same thing..
boots ok.. but when it comes to installing.. it looks at the DVD
ROM which is disabled via BIOS and has no CD in. Cant
eject as it locks the drive.
cheers.
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From: "Matt O'Toole" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: HP Products disapoining in Linux - was Linux vs Microsoft
Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 12:48:23 -0700
"Juergen Sauer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:9chfg2$i6a$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Michael Perry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb
> am Sun, 29 Apr 2001 12:54:13 -0000 in comp.os.linux.misc:
>
> > HP's new Linux-based printing initiative for Linux. Check it out:
>
> > http://hp.sourceforge.net/
>
> > Now they have released enough of their specs to do printer drivers. But
if
> > I wanted good laser quality, I would go with one of the new models from
> > Lexmark. Lexmark used to release good OS/2 drivers and now is releasing
> > Linux printing drivers.
>
> > As far as printing with HP's, I would have to mildly disagree. I use a
> > HP8000n at work which has quite good Postscript printing capabilities.
We
> > throw a few thousand print jobs primarily from linux boxes each day at
it.
> > Works pretty well.
>
> Any PostScript Printer works well ...
>
> > As far as deskjet printing goes, check out the sourceforge link.
>
> This initiative is not enough. It's trash.
> It's HP's idiotic atempt to keep the linux comunity quiet.
I agree. They seem to be talking out of both sides of their mouths on this
one. Releasing the appropriate info to the commnity would take minutes.
They obviously really aren't interested in doing that. But they want to be
able to jump on the Linux bandwagon, or at least not be seen as lagging in
the Linux area.
I have a feeling they want to help Linux as little as possible. Why?
Because it's a potential competitor to their own commercial Unix. It's only
a matter of time before enterprise commercial Unix is replaced by open
source, and the longer HP can keep its finger in the dike, the better. Even
print drivers for desktop machines help Linux gain momentum. I doubt HP
will come around until they see themselves losing more by not being able to
sell printers to Linux users, and that may still take awhile.
Matt O.
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From: wroot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,linux.redhat
Subject: time adjustment
Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 15:53:38 -0400
Hi,
I've heard that there are time servers or something that a UNIX system can
connect to to adjust its clock. Is it true and is it possible to do it
under Linux?
Thanks
Wroot
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: HP Products disapoining in Linux - was Linux vs Microsoft
Date: Fri, 04 May 2001 20:04:59 GMT
"Matt O'Toole" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I agree. They seem to be talking out of both sides of their mouths
> on this one. Releasing the appropriate info to the commnity would
> take minutes. They obviously really aren't interested in doing
> that. But they want to be able to jump on the Linux bandwagon, or
> at least not be seen as lagging in the Linux area.
That's probably fair comment.
> I have a feeling they want to help Linux as little as possible. Why?
> Because it's a potential competitor to their own commercial Unix. It's only
> a matter of time before enterprise commercial Unix is replaced by open
> source, and the longer HP can keep its finger in the dike, the better. Even
> print drivers for desktop machines help Linux gain momentum. I doubt HP
> will come around until they see themselves losing more by not being able to
> sell printers to Linux users, and that may still take awhile.
Keep in mind that the printing and server business units at HP are
_quite_ independent.
It is entirely likely that the printers in question are no more usable
with HP/UX than they are with Linux, and that the respective business
units are _fine_ with that. There just can't be many people that want
to hook up a $175 colour printer to a $275K PA-RISC system with 8
CPUs.
They're not so worried about lack of Linux printer sales as they are
about the potential for competitors like Lexmark, Canon, Epson, and
such to "steal" their intellectual property if they reveal actual
specs for the low end printers.
If the support for HP colour printers is crummy, then by all MEANS,
feel FREE to:
a) Buy some other vendor's printer, and
b) Tell HP that they lost that sale because of lack of support.
If they get 5,000 letters indicating that they lost sales, they're
going to extrapolate that as indicating that they lost a whopping lot
more than that, because not everyone writes a letter.
One letter is NOT going to make the difference; the one letter will be
neglected and not noticed. But if there are hundreds or thousands of
complaints, eventually a VP will hear a rumour...
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From: "Mr. Sunray" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: newbie 'top' question
Date: Fri, 04 May 2001 15:09:04 -0500
Mathieu Brabant wrote:
> The command 'top -b | head -n19' will print the first 10 process that top
> returns.
>
> M@
Interestingly, I get the results followed by a 'broken pipe' message when I
do this.
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