Linux-Misc Digest #778, Volume #23                Tue, 7 Mar 00 16:13:02 EST

Contents:
  Re: Re-creating /dev/ttyS2 ? ("Steve Cowles")
  setting a debian sys default architecture?? (Corey Kovacs)
  Re: ZIP + SCSI Please HELP ME!!! (Markus Kossmann)
  Re: Backup tools / old bru ? (Frank Miles)
  Re: *.1.gz  to ascii ? (Aron Felix Gurski)
  Compare Win 2000 to Linux Red Hat 6.1 in temperature ("WInston Lee")
  Re: Clock drift problem ("Terry Borchert")
  sound card configuration (TK421)
  looking for Digital Asset Mgmt software (bruce)
  Re: COMMERCIAL: LINUX BOX-550 Mhz system on sale (Kelly Wilson)
  closing browser window crashes netscape?!? (thomas park)
  Changeing screen resolution/dimensions in Redhat Linux 6.1 (Zachary Witte)
  Re: Compare Win 2000 to Linux Red Hat 6.1 in temperature (Tim Jackson)
  Re: ZIP + SCSI Please HELP ME!!! ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  How to create a persistent port listener from a shell account (David Mertz)
  Re: Salary? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Microsoft reinvents the wheel!!! ("admin")
  Re: How to create a persistent port listener from a shell account (thomas park)
  Re: Salary? (Matthias Warkus)
  Re: cursor control ("T.E.Dickey")
  Re: Salary? (thomas park)
  Re: VMware: how does it work? (Hugh Sparks)

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From: "Steve Cowles" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Re-creating /dev/ttyS2 ?
Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2000 19:01:30 GMT


"Aulne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:8a32tq$m0m$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hi all,
>
>   Don't ask me why, but I managed to erase the /dev/ttyS2 file.  I tried
> copying the /dev/ttyS3 to /dev/ttyS2 but it fails to create the correct
file
> type.  What is the procedure to re-create that file?

[root@voyager /dev]# ls -l ttyS*
crw-------   1 root     tty        4,  64 May  5  1998 ttyS0
crw-------   1 root     tty        4,  65 Feb 11 22:46 ttyS1
crw-------   1 root     tty        4,  66 May  5  1998 ttyS2
crw-------   1 root     tty        4,  67 May  5  1998 ttyS3

[root@voyager /dev]# mknod -m 700 /dev/ttyS2 c 4 65

>
>   And while on the subject, these ttyS[x] files are empty when viewed in
hex
> mode.  Since they are empty, what is their role?

These are character based "special" files that refer to (in this case) a
physical device. The kernel has a driver compiled in that (based on the
major/minor #) will send a charater to the proper port. Note the "c" in the
ls -l output. Type: "man mknod" or even better... "info mknod" to understand
more.

Steve Cowles

>
>
> Alain (still a newbie)
>
>
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From: Corey Kovacs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: setting a debian sys default architecture??
Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2000 18:22:19 +0000

I just installed debian for the first time (still a slackware fan) and I
want to use the dpkg scheme for rebuilding binaries.  The question I
have is as follows....

Is there a way to preset the -O -march and -mcpu flags without editing
the debian/rules file everytime I want to compile a .deb package?

I usually use -O3 -march=i686 -mcpu=i686

after looking at the dpkg-architecture script, I decided to recompile 
the .deb package for gcc. In the past (using normal methods) the
configure
would figure out that it was a 686 system and install accordingly. The 
dpkg way configures it for an i386 system.  I understand that this realy
may have nothing to do with the flags mentioned and compiling, but I was
hoping this would change the results of the dpkg-architecture script and
get me what I want....any takers?


Corey

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From: Markus Kossmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ZIP + SCSI Please HELP ME!!!
Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2000 19:01:15 +0100

Emanuele Parati wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I've a problem with io-mage ZIP (parallel version):
> I've installed recently an Adaptec SCSI-controller (2940) with two CD's.
> Before this upgrade, I made:
> modprobe ppa
> insmod ppa
> mount -v fat /dev/sda4 /mnt/io-zip
> 
> After this, I can't use the ZIP: the modprobe seems to work, but when I
> try to make mount..., Linux tell me that /dev/sda4 is not a valid block
> device.
Probably "SCSI disk support" is missing.  If there is a  sd.o module
available , load it. If there is no such module , you have to
reconfigure and rebuild your kernel.  
--
Markus Kossmann                                    
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Frank Miles)
Subject: Re: Backup tools / old bru ?
Date: 7 Mar 2000 19:02:44 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Donald Arseneau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I've been using bru for backups, but after updating libraries it stopped
>working (segfault). I see that my copy is dated from the original Redhat
>5.1 install, and hasn't been updated.  Seems I've been caught in the 
>closed-source trap!  Without sources I can't recompile.
>
>Is bru really commercial/closed source?

Yes, of course!

>How about recommendations for a replacement?  Am I stuck with tar
>and dump?

I used to used tob (an afio shell script).  The most recent (debian) version 
even includes a feature of mine.  But I've stopped using it, primarily
because afio's restores are glacial -- it can't fast-forward to the file
that you want to restore.  Otherwise it's quite nice.

I tried kbackup; now that it's GPL'd its more attractive than it was.
Couldn't get it to do remote backups, so it was out.  Plus, I didn't
really need the text-based GUI, though it wasn't bad.

My current favorite is afbackup.  If you don't mind its one restriction --
can't use a Windows machine as a backup server -- its free.  Works
great over a network, and is fast with restores.  The only problem with
this CLI-only system is that if it doesn't work for you, it can be a
real pain trying to figure out why.  Strace is your friend!

Kudos to Albert Fluegel for afbackup!

        -frank

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From: Aron Felix Gurski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: *.1.gz  to ascii ?
Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2000 19:13:31 GMT

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> Hi,
>  the midnight commander's file-view function (F3) shows me the various
> 'man' files as plain ascii. { off course man <stuff> also shows text, but
> doesn't allow 'string searching' }
> 
> I want to get the file as plain ascii, presumably by something like:
> <command> <*.1.gz fileID>   >    <asciiFileID>

Try 
        man file > text-file

man should be able to deal with *.1.gz files (at least the version I have does).

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From: "WInston Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.comp.hardware.homebuilt,alt.comp.hardware.overclocking,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc,tw.bbs.comp.hardware
Subject: Compare Win 2000 to Linux Red Hat 6.1 in temperature
Date: 7 Mar 2000 19:15:05 GMT

Hi! Folks:
I fell it's strange when I run win2000, that make my case  so hot; but it
does not happen to Linux.  So I try to detect the temperatures, and the
result is really unbelievable.  I really don't understand, why win2000 make
the CPU and system so hot.   Just like microsoft said win2000 is "hot" in
the market.
===============================================
Temperature test.
Compare Win 2000 to Linux Red Hat 6.1
CPU temp.
      CPU0      CPU1      System
Win2K   56      63        63 [�C]
Linux   39       42        48 [�C]
>From task manager, Win2K is in idle, Linux is working very hard, over 30%
===========================================
Main Hardware configure
Abit BP6
Dual celeron (366MHz, overclock to 517MHz)
PC 133 128M
Run at 517MHz (94x5.5)
SCSI 9.1 G Hard drive



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From: "Terry Borchert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Clock drift problem
Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 11:41:23 -0600

I'm too new to this to have any answers, but I've experienced a similar
problem and it seems to be related to the power management damon. I haven't
found a proper fix, but by disabling power management in the bios the
problem seems to be temporarily resolved.
"Geoff McCaughan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:8a1g5e$40b$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I have a strange problem with some PC104 486 systems. I reset the system
and
> hardware clocks on 3 of these machines last week. 3 days later the
hardware
> clocks are all in sync to within a second or so, but two of the machines
> system clocks have drifted significantly, one by 15 minutes, and one by 25
> minutes. The third one is within a second of its hardware clock. All three
> machines have been sitting idle over the 3 days.
>
> What could cause the linux system clock to drift so significantly?
>
> Any suggestions would be helpful, however it is not practical to install
> networked time sync systems such as NTP on these machines as they don't
have
> net access.



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From: TK421 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: sound card configuration
Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2000 14:36:02 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

i'm not getting any sound and i was wondering if anyone who has
configured a creative SB Live! card could share some knowledge with me.


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From: bruce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: looking for Digital Asset Mgmt software
Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2000 14:40:38 -0500

anybody recommend something like Cumulus 5 or Telescope that runs on
Linux?

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From: Kelly Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: COMMERCIAL: LINUX BOX-550 Mhz system on sale
Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2000 12:41:24 -0700
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

How about either the Athlon or P2 450 system without Redhat, no keyboard
or mouse and 128Mb Ram, including shipping to Albuquerque, New Mexico?

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From: thomas park <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
Subject: closing browser window crashes netscape?!?
Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2000 14:14:10 -0500

Hi all,

I'm having this very strange problem with Netscape - closing a browser
window will randomly cause Netscape to crash (exits all open Netscape
windows, including browser, messenger, etc.)  This doesn't happen
consistently, perhaps about 30% of the time that I close a window.

Does anybody know of a fix for this?  I'm using Mandrake Linux 7.0, with
XF86/Mach 64 3.3.6, WindowMaker 0.61.1 (from source), and Netscape 4.7. 
Thanks for your reply -

thomas

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From: Zachary Witte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Changeing screen resolution/dimensions in Redhat Linux 6.1
Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2000 19:30:04 GMT

Hello. I'm a very new user with linux and don't know muh about how it 
works. I am a very experienced user with Windows, however. One of the first 
things I noticed when I started up linux for the first time was the the 
screen resolution was very low (I later found out it was 640x480 but it 
seems smaller) Its so bad that 90% of the windows thatopen up don't 
fit on the desktop so I can't see some buttons and settings. Anyway, over 
the past couple of weeks I've been all over the system. I've been in KDE 
and Gnome I've looked through the help files and see NOTHING on changing 
the resolution of the screen. Can anyone help?

Thanks,
Zac

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tim Jackson)
Crossposted-To: 
alt.comp.hardware.homebuilt,alt.comp.hardware.overclocking,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc,tw.bbs.comp.hardware
Subject: Re: Compare Win 2000 to Linux Red Hat 6.1 in temperature
Date: 7 Mar 2000 19:45:11 GMT

It used to be that Linux ran cooler (and also resulted in longer
battery life fore mobiles) because Linux would issue HALT instructions
to the CPU when it was idle, whereas MS products (I believe DOS) did
not.  I had assumed that once the DOS legacy had been left behind,
MS would have gotten more power concious, but perhaps they have not.

Tim.

In article <8a3kfp$mdn$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
WInston Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hi! Folks:
>I fell it's strange when I run win2000, that make my case  so hot; but it
>does not happen to Linux.  So I try to detect the temperatures, and the
>result is really unbelievable.  I really don't understand, why win2000 make
>the CPU and system so hot.   Just like microsoft said win2000 is "hot" in
>the market.
>===============================================
>Temperature test.
>Compare Win 2000 to Linux Red Hat 6.1
>CPU temp.
>      CPU0      CPU1      System
>Win2K   56      63        63 [�C]
>Linux   39       42        48 [�C]
>From task manager, Win2K is in idle, Linux is working very hard, over 30%
>===========================================
>Main Hardware configure
>Abit BP6
>Dual celeron (366MHz, overclock to 517MHz)
>PC 133 128M
>Run at 517MHz (94x5.5)
>SCSI 9.1 G Hard drive
>
>



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: ZIP + SCSI Please HELP ME!!!
Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2000 19:48:44 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  Markus Kossmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Emanuele Parati wrote:
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > I've a problem with io-mage ZIP (parallel version):
> > I've installed recently an Adaptec SCSI-controller (2940) with two
CD's.
> > Before this upgrade, I made:
> > modprobe ppa
> > insmod ppa
> > mount -v fat /dev/sda4 /mnt/io-zip
> >
> > After this, I can't use the ZIP: the modprobe seems to work, but
> > when I try to make mount..., Linux tell me that /dev/sda4 is not a
> > valid block
> > device.
> Probably "SCSI disk support" is missing.

Why? He just installed a SCSI controller and he hasn't said they
don't work. He *has* SCSI support. His system -sees- the ppa module.

Offhand, it sounds as if the two CDs now are /dev/sda and /dev/sdb
or such. The zip drive is probably out there around sdc or
there-abouts.

I had a problem similar to this when I installed a second IDE hard
on my Red Hat system. /dev/cdrom no longer worked because the hard
drive device was renamed (/dev/cdrom is a symbolic link anyway). So
I found the cdrom by hunting and pecking the various /dev/hdX devices
and rebuilt the link.

David.


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Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2000 15:03:40 -0500
From: David Mertz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: How to create a persistent port listener from a shell account

I have a web hosting service that runs Linux, and provides telnet shell
access.  As part of the web pages I am attempting to implement, I wish
to run a permanent process to listen on a port (and return results when
queried).  

Specifically, this process is a Python program called PAOS, and it
provides an object database store.  I do not believe the problems I am
having are specific to PAOS, but I am not 100% certain.  

What I want to do is quite simple:  run PAOS in the background, and
allow CGI processes to query it.  When this works, PAOS returns some
data over a TCP connection (and/or changes some data in the store).  At
a first pass, this seems to be working when PAOS is launched while a
shell is active.

My problem is how to keep PAOS active, and listening on its port, after
my shell session is terminated.  Should be simple, yes?

Here is how it works in the best case:


        % python Server.py 8000 mydb &
        [1] 27658
        Server: ready and listening

        % python Talk.py gnosis.cx 8000
        Server: connection accepted from ('216.226.17.90', 3487)
        Server: connection accepted from ('216.226.17.90', 3488)
        Server: register request from client ('cs.csoft.net', 27839,
585,'mattmcd') ...
        Server: answer = 1

This is just a little test connection, that doesn't do anything all that
interesting.  I launched the server on port 8000, and specified the data
store 'mydb'.  The client Talk.py successfully makes a connection with
the server.  If the server was not running, the Talk.py client gets a
socket error (and reports this).

Of course, as soon as I close my shell session, the Server.py process
also terminates.

My first thought on running the process persistently was to launch it
with 'nohup', as in:

        % nohup python Server.py 8000 mydb &
        [1] 7562
        nohup: appending output to `nohup.out'

However, when launched this way (and nice'd, which may or may not
matter), the Server no longer responds to a request.  The above Talk.py
client will just pause forever without making a connection.  On the
other hand, Talk.py will not get a socket error, as it does when
Server.py is not running at all.  It appears that the port is still
being listened to, but the process is in a zombie state or something.

Any ideas how to get this to work right?

Thanks...

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Salary?
Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2000 19:57:37 GMT

In article <89ung8$jvd$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>   [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > 1. Charge what you think you're worth in that job. US$20/hr?
US$40/hr?
> > What? If you feel quite happy getting US$15/hr and then find that
> > you're being undervalued in this position as everyone is earning
more
> > than you, I expect you'd be a little miffed. Am I right? And yet you
> > were quite happy to accept the US$15/hr in the first place. People
are
> > so greedy.
>
> It's not so much a question of greed; merely fairness.  I've been in
> the position before where I got hired on at a wage, then discovered
> a few months down the road that someone that does an inferior job
> (by my estimation and management's appraisals) was hired on at - and
> was continuing to make - significantly more than what I was making.
> So no, not greed exactly.  I just don't want to repeat that sort of
> rude slap in the face through naivety.
>
> > Having said that I'd guess that as you've left school and it's an
> > admin job I'd go for about GB�20K which would be about US$30K which
> > works out at about ....oh dear, US$10.27/hr. Perhaps I have my sums
> > wrong.
>
> Doing some quick math, that works out to around $14.50/hr assuming
> $30,000 gross annual income, 40 hours a week.  I was thinking low- to
> mid-thirties, but if sysadmins are routinely making $45k+ I'd feel
> like I low-balled myself (doing the same work for less pay).  Hence
> my inquiry.

Last time anyone published any figures in Atlanta, the going rates for a
sysadmin were:

Salary     Considered
58,000     Low
72,000     Medium
80,000     High  (don't recall the exact high end fig)

Now that's a little distorted by the local run on Solaris admins. Good
Sun admins command a premium in the local market.

Considering the difference in cost of living between Southern California
and Atlanta, asking for 60k seems very reasonable. You *have* 4 years
experience, which is a fair amount of it. Ask for your rate.

David.


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From: "admin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Microsoft reinvents the wheel!!!
Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2000 20:16:48 GMT

hohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohohoho!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"Charles Sullivan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribi� en el mensaje
news:8a0m0h$fd4$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Julio C. Gutierrez wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> >Hi all,
> >
> >This is worth reading!
> >
> >Microsoft has been working hard to develop a new technology that will
save
> >disk space!!  Links to files!!!!  Incredible?  No!
> >
> >Read it detailed at:
> >
> >http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/features/2000/02-28w2k.asp
> >
> >PS:  hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah!!!!
> >
> >--
> >Julio C. Gutierrez -- Please remove both X to send email
> >Penguins live only in cool environments... ;)
>
> This ranks right up there with Al Gore's claim to have invented
> the Internet (when everyone knows that Bill Gates invented it -
> right after he invented the computer).  :-)
>
>
>



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From: thomas park <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to create a persistent port listener from a shell account
Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2000 15:14:48 -0500

Security-wise, this setup sounds a little dangerous.  You may want to
write a wrapper program for the Python script to prevent it from being
exploited by a system cracker.

Functionality-wise, have you tried running the program from cron?  (man
cron, man crontab).  I'd be surprised if the process needed to be
attached to a terminal to function.

thomas


David Mertz wrote:
> 
> I have a web hosting service that runs Linux, and provides telnet shell
> access.  As part of the web pages I am attempting to implement, I wish
> to run a permanent process to listen on a port (and return results when
> queried).
> 
> Specifically, this process is a Python program called PAOS, and it
> provides an object database store.  I do not believe the problems I am
> having are specific to PAOS, but I am not 100% certain.
> 

...

> Thanks...

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthias Warkus)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Salary?
Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 20:45:14 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

It was the 7 Mar 2000 17:55:57 GMT...
...and Michael C. Vergallen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Eric LEMAITRE wrote:
> 
> >When do you flee from Belgium for USA :-)) ?
> I'm allready looking into this ... My estimated time is in 2 - 3 years.
> I'm currently doing a degree, so as soon as I get this done I'll be
> considering this as an option.

How sad... 

mawa
-- 
keywool, n.:
    Fluffy stuff that can be found looking through the slits between a
        long-haired hacker's keyboard caps.

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From: "T.E.Dickey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: cursor control
Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2000 20:25:48 GMT

Dances With Crows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>>Does xterm have to be vt100?  Is there a wyse 60 xterm?

> No and probably.  My /etc/termcap has an entry for Wyse 60, but the man
> page for xterm says it does vt100, vt102, vt220, and Tektronix 4104
> emulation.  (xterm's man page looks a bit out of date... try "export
> TERM=wyse60" and see if it works?)

not really (compare with "infocmp vt100 wyse60")

the man-page is up-to-date also (I keep it up to date, though your machine
may have an old copy ;-)

-- 
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: thomas park <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Salary?
Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2000 15:18:53 -0500

Those figures sound a little high to me - in the New England area, a
typical sysadmin with 4 years experience would probably gross $40 - 50K
(USD).  And the cost of living here is, as I understand it, higher than
in the south (I don't know about Atlanta).

There's a site, http://www.computerjobs.com that lists job openings - I
believe they also have salary surveys that seem reasonable and are
localized for several parts of the US.

thomas



> Last time anyone published any figures in Atlanta, the going rates for a
> sysadmin were:
> 
> Salary     Considered
> 58,000     Low
> 72,000     Medium
> 80,000     High  (don't recall the exact high end fig)
> 
> Now that's a little distorted by the local run on Solaris admins. Good
> Sun admins command a premium in the local market.
> 
> Considering the difference in cost of living between Southern California
> and Atlanta, asking for 60k seems very reasonable. You *have* 4 years
> experience, which is a fair amount of it. Ask for your rate.
> 
> David.
> 
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.

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From: Hugh Sparks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: VMware: how does it work?
Date: 7 Mar 2000 20:32:40 GMT

Bastian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On 4 Mar 2000 22:20:32 -0600, Kenny McCormack wrote:
>>Has anyone given any thought to just how vmware works?
>>
>>I.e., for years, the conventional wisdom has been that the i386 chips are
>>not fully virtualizable - unlike the IBM VM environments of the 60's.
>>That is, you couldn't run an entire i386 inside of another i386.

> I know about this "rumor", but I can't believe it. Why shouldn't it be
> possible to write a program that behaves exactly like a i386?

> Bastian.

It is possible to <emulate> any of the Intel processors
along with their associated hardware running any O.S.
This setup would execute applications very slowly however.

The goal of virtualization is not to emulate, but rather to
directly execute the native code intended for one operating
system inside of and supervised by another. This is difficult
because the virtualized O.S. has to see virtual hardware that
acts like the real thing while the real hardware is still
under the control of the host O.S..  This hardware includes
tricky bits like memory management, hardware protection modes,
and all the I/O device registers.

When the processor instruction set and hardware interface
model is designed for virtualization, applications in the 
virtual environment will execute at nearly full speed.

-Hugh Sparks, [EMAIL PROTECTED]




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