Linux-Misc Digest #824, Volume #18 Sat, 30 Jan 99 13:13:14 EST
Contents:
Re: Advice for Microsoft-haters (Eric)
Re: Why does Netscape hang until I dial up? (David Kirkpatrick)
Re: changing the server prompt (Ben Russo)
Iomega Dittomax pro Mounting ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Reference Manager (Joseph Fowler)
Re: Advice for Microsoft-haters ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: WYSIWYG HTML editor with revision control? (Mike Castle)
WYSIWYG HTML editor with revision control? (Damon K. Haley)
Re: LiNUX box as transparent email "router"? ("Michael 'BeLFrY' S. E. Kraus")
Re: Shutdown ("Bob Glover")
Re: Apache really SIMPLE question ("Clay")
Re: Best version of Netscape 4.5 (Shane Bearham)
Re: could someone suggest a window manager for me? (Paul Seelig)
Re: Linux instead of Windows - just one problem (Jerry Lynn Kreps)
Re: COM for Linux? ("Aaron Perrin")
Re: swapon -s returning error (James Youngman)
Re: Shutdown ("TufCrane")
Re: How big is a tar file? (Matthew Hunter)
Zip drive with Kernel 2.2 (The Learner)
Bratislava - looking for C++ programmer ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: How Serialized is the Linux Filesystem? (Kaz Kylheku)
Re: Linux keyboard? (For emacs use) (Erik Naggum)
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From: Eric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Advice for Microsoft-haters
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 06:52:24 -0700
Melancon wrote:
> Frank Sweetser wrote:
>
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> >
> > > You pledge
> > > : allegiance to the flag at *school* in the USA AFAIK.
> > >
> > > Yup. I think they do.
> >
> > yup, we do.
>
> I don't know what school you went to, or how old you are, but that silly pledge
> dissappeared back in the 50's or 60's...
Actually it was in the 70's. Strangely enough right about the time the country
went to hell in a handbasket.
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From: David Kirkpatrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: Why does Netscape hang until I dial up?
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 08:45:55 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
It may be your default setting for the page to be setup on
Netscape startup. Go to Edit, Preferences, Navigator. (This is
for 4.5 but the 3.0 etc have similar settings)
On this page you can set what happens on startup. If you have a
web page specified Netscape will try to get on the web and get
the page so its probably timing out on the network which is not
connected. Change the start page to a blank page or a html file
on your system..
Rod Brick wrote:
>
> This is a new phenomenon for me. I start netscape, and it runs -
> somewhere - but it never materializes on the desktop. Not until I dial
> up does it show up on as a window. I'm not using diald, if that makes a
> difference. This is a real pain in the butt. If I just want to view an
> html file via netscape, it seems I must dial up first. Can anyone help
> me here?
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From: Ben Russo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: changing the server prompt
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 12:26:09 -0500
Daddy Rabbit wrote:
> I want to change the server prompt so the pwd is displayed. I have
> search the HowTo's, FAQ, etc but haven't found anything on the
> subject. I have played around with /etc/bashrc and changed the PS1=
> string to various combinations but, of course, not knowing the
> variables required my efforts were useless. If you know how to make
> the changes I would appreciate an example.
>
> PS1=
>
> Thanks
> Jim
PS1="[\u@\h \W]\\$ "
Will show the basename of the PWD.
PS1="[\u@\h \w]\\$ "
Will show the full PWD.
These are in the man page, search for "PROMPTING" case sensitive.
-Ben
IS UNIX Sys Admin
Global One
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Iomega Dittomax pro Mounting
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 12:08:37 GMT
I am thinking of buying an Iomega Dittomax pro drive to back up my linux
system and my windows hard drives, I am running a gateway laptop if this
makes any difference and would just like to know before buying if it is
possible to mount such a device under linux, Would I have to recompile the
kernel? what would go in to it and where? has any one written a driver for it
allready?
Thanks for any advice
Toby J Coleridge
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From: Joseph Fowler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Reference Manager
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 19:04:26 +0100
Like any good Linux user, I'm attempting to convince people they should
follow
my example. Pretty much everyone at work is convinced, but just today
my boss informed
me that he needs a reference manager. He has tons of scientific
articles catagorized
and filed. Presently they use a program called Reference Manager under
you-know-
which operating system to keep track of them all and to seach for
authors, keywords
etc. Could someone recommend a similar program under Linux?
Thanks.
Joseph
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Advice for Microsoft-haters
Date: 30 Jan 1999 14:50:16 GMT
In the sacred domain of comp.os.linux.misc didst Arthur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> eloquently
scribe:
: Just as an after thought, you should take a look
: at some of the TV shows or books by James Burke
: (The Day the Universe Changed, Connections).
: Eventually you can trace this all back to the
: first ape who cut himself on a sharp rock.
Good grief.... James Burkes connections.
I rememeber watching that series when I was a kid.
For some reason, it's never been repeated.
: Just to forestall any accusations of bias,
: Burke is British, or at least he talks funny.
Yes, he's british. No, he doesn't talk funny.
(that's what americans, australians and all those other bally foreigners are
for)
:)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mike Castle)
Crossposted-To: comp.infosystems.www.authoring.html,comp.software.config-mgmt
Subject: Re: WYSIWYG HTML editor with revision control?
Date: 29 Jan 1999 10:09:32 -0700
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Damon K. Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Is there a WYSIWYG HTML editor that does revision control of
>documents? I would like it to be able to access RCS or some
>other revision system from its GUI.
You can probably accomplish this with EMACS. It has html modes and support
for at least rcs and possible cvs, and runs under most Unix systems and
clones, both text mode and GUI, as well as Win32 systems.
Just remember, HTML is to determine the STRUCTURE of the document, not the
layout. What You See may not be What I See with my browser. With this in
mind, Emacs should make an acceptable editor.
mrc
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Damon K. Haley)
Crossposted-To: comp.infosystems.www.authoring.html,comp.software.config-mgmt
Subject: WYSIWYG HTML editor with revision control?
Date: 29 Jan 1999 15:48:08 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Is there a WYSIWYG HTML editor that does revision control of
documents? I would like it to be able to access RCS or some
other revision system from its GUI.
I am looking for one that runs on Linux, but I would be interested
to hear about windows tools that do this as well.
Thanks
Damon Haley
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From: "Michael 'BeLFrY' S. E. Kraus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.mail.misc
Subject: Re: LiNUX box as transparent email "router"?
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 01:41:08 +1100
G'day...
> It would be nice if I could use the LiNUX box as a SMTP server also to
> send the outgoing emails, but this isn't critical.
This is absolutely feasable. In fact if sendmail is installed and
started at boot time (eg like under RH5.2, but I'm not sure which distro
you are using), it is default. Just specify the SMTP server to be
localhost.
I'm sorry, I know this is the least of what you are wanting to do. I'm
sorry I cannot be of more assistance. However, what I can tell you is
this, all of the things you are saying sound reasonable, they just
require a bit of experienced know-how.
Read up and learn how to use all of the tools you mention. Learn each
one in turn, and then put them together to accomplish your goal.
I hope this helps...
All the best...
Michael.
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From: "Bob Glover" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Shutdown
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 19:01:36 -0000
If you want *ANY* user to be able to shutdown the system, make it suid root.
But that is risky!
If it's Red Hat, you should be able to use the ctrl+alt+del three-fingered
salute.
Cory Phillips wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>My linux box at home is not being used in a multi-user environment.
>I have created accounts for the members of my household and am reserving
>root for special sys admin work (as instructed to by documentation).
>
>The problem is, I log into the system with my user account, but when I'm
>done
>I have to login as root to execute the shutdown command. When I try the
>shutdown
>command from my user account, I get a message stating that the command
>is only
>available to root. I checked the execute permissions of the
>/sbin/shutdown file
>and it indicates that execute privilages are granted to all three types
>of users
>(shutdown -rwxr-xr-x).
>
>How can I shutdown my system without logging into root each time?
>
>Thanks,
>Cory
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From: "Clay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.slackware
Subject: Re: Apache really SIMPLE question
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 11:43:46 -0500
shouldn't that be http://www.apache.org?
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>You're going to have to compile Apache from source
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>specfy the path you want with the
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>for info. Use pkgtool to un-install the SLack pkg.
>
>Simple... right?
>
>
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From: Shane Bearham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.news,linux.redhat.misc,alt.os.linux,aus.computers.linux
Subject: Re: Best version of Netscape 4.5
Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 03:27:58 +1100
Alex McCreath wrote:
> Which version of Netscape Communicator (4.5) runs best under Linux RH52.
> I have a standard Pentium 120 machine with 64M memory and plenty of
> drive space. Thanks in advance.
>
> Alex McCreath
I have being using 4.5 Communicator now for about 4-5 months... and I have
the odd crash
it runs almost continuously ( only that I require to shut down X or change
hardware for testing now and then )
with both WEB & mail windows open
..Yes it's is NOT supported.... but considering the lack of trouble I've
had with it...I consider
it worth the effort ....
Slackware 3.4/2.0.36 with XFree86 3.2.1
Shane ()
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From: Paul Seelig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: could someone suggest a window manager for me?
Date: 29 Jan 1999 21:24:50 +0100
Eric Wyles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> my scrollbars when I have a window maximized. If anyone could suggest a
> good window manager and where to get it,
>
http://www.windowmaker.org
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From: Jerry Lynn Kreps <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux instead of Windows - just one problem
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 10:35:02 -0600
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Hello Ben
>
> 22-Jan-99 18:54:04, Ben Sandler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote to All
> Subject: Linux instead of Windows - just one problem
<snip>
>
> Have a look at Mandrake 5.2 a redhat 5.2 clone but with a much better
> integrated (KDE) desktop. To access the floppy drive or CD-ROM just
> click on the respective icon on the desktop and it will automatically mount
> the device for you.
> KDE comes preconfigured, but much better preconfigured than on
> Caldera, or SuSE.
Are you sure that you have experience running KDE under SuSE 5.3?
My installation of SuSE 5.3 has KDE integrated perfectly. And, whenever
you use YaST to change the configuration, add or remove apps, etc., all
menus in all Xwindow clients are updated appropriately and
automatically.
You can't get any smoother than that.
Regardless, a well-installed KDE setting on top of any Linux distro is
an M$ windows killer.
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From: "Aaron Perrin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: COM for Linux?
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 12:29:24 -0400
Thanks for posting the FAQ URL.
I know I probably should have looked for FAQ first before posting,
but I assumed (incorrectly, of course) that most people using linux
wouldn't be interested in such a thing. Oops.
Basically I haven't looked at CORBA for awhile, and the last time I
checked many of the ORBs available were implementing features
that were beyond the current standard (2.0 maybe?). There was
some controversy about the maturity of CORBA and also the fact
that ORBs cost several thousand dollars, and I decided to use COM
instead. Anyway, I have some COM components that I'd like to utilize
on a new linux box I'm planning on buying, and I didn't really want to
rewrite or recompile for CORBA.
I'll admit that I haven't been keeping up-to-date on CORBA, so I'll
check it out and reconsider, but either way, thanks for the info.
Aaron
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From: James Youngman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: swapon -s returning error
Date: 28 Jan 1999 22:30:35 +0000
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> Hi,
>
> I am having trouble getting my swap spaces to work. My fstab file
> is ok, I have created the partitions, etc. When I run swapon -a
> with no options, the space is added with a priority of -1. This
> seems strange to me.
It's quite normal.
> When I run swapon -s I get this:
> swapon: /proc/swaps: No such file or directory
[root@periwinkle /]# swapon -s
Filename Type Size Used Priority
/dev/hda5 partition 130500 1256 -1
[root@periwinkle /]# uname -a
Linux periwinkle 2.2.0 #2 SMP Tue Jan 26 21:43:21 GMT 1999 i586 unknown
[root@periwinkle /]#
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From: "TufCrane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Shutdown
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 04:45:30 +0900
TufCrane from Korea
Hmm...
Use "su" command!!
$ su
then linux would request root's password
enter root's password
then you would be root:
http://www.galaxy.channeli.net/tufcrane
Cory Phillips ��(��) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ��������
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>My linux box at home is not being used in a multi-user environment.
>I have created accounts for the members of my household and am reserving
>root for special sys admin work (as instructed to by documentation).
>
>The problem is, I log into the system with my user account, but when I'm
>done
>I have to login as root to execute the shutdown command. When I try the
>shutdown
>command from my user account, I get a message stating that the command
>is only
>available to root. I checked the execute permissions of the
>/sbin/shutdown file
>and it indicates that execute privilages are granted to all three types
>of users
>(shutdown -rwxr-xr-x).
>
>How can I shutdown my system without logging into root each time?
>
>Thanks,
>Cory
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthew Hunter)
Subject: Re: How big is a tar file?
Date: 30 Jan 1999 15:31:05 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 29 Jan 1999 20:59:44 -0500, in comp.os.linux.misc,
Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthew Hunter) writes:
>> >Am I missing something in the way tar cfz works?
>> Yes. It works the other way around -- it tars the files (no
>> compressed) and then compresses the tar as a single file. This allows
>> marginally better compression, since meta-information is also
>> compressed, but means that losing the stream is disastrous.
>how does tar compress to tape or disk? as in
>
>tar cvzf /dev/fd0 files...
>
>if you're using tar for backup to a tape, then you need streaming
>compression on the data.
It IS streaming compression.
>btw it's always bothered me that when reading, tar doesn't figure out
>that the file has been compressed and just do the right thing.
Annoying, but bearable. It's not really a big deal. The design of tar
pretty much precludes it, as I understand it.
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From: The Learner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup,linux
Subject: Zip drive with Kernel 2.2
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 12:46:23 -0500
Hi all,
I recently downloaded and installed kernel 2.2 from source code on my
Red Hat 5.2 system,
being careful to upgrade all packages which needed upgrading using RPMs
from Project Tango.
I've heard that 2.2 has great Zip drive report, but ever since I
installed it my Zip drive -- which worked flawlessly under 2.0.33,
2.0.34, and 2.0.36 -- now no longer works. Although I can mount the
drive, whenever I try to do something I get a great deal of SCSI I/O
errors. Does anyone have any idea as to what's wrong?
Thanks in advance.
--JM
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Bratislava - looking for C++ programmer
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 19:38:59 GMT
Hi Slovenska,
wir sind ein Sueddeutsches Unternehmen und wir suchen in Bratislava einen
langfristig fuer uns taetigen C++-Programmierer auf freiberuflicher Basis zur
Entwicklung einer kommerziellen Software unter Windows.
Kommunikation auf Deutsch oder Englisch.
Wir bitten um Ihre Nachricht.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kaz Kylheku)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: How Serialized is the Linux Filesystem?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 29 Jan 1999 13:08:49 -0800
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Matthias Warkus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Q: Are there any simple locking mechanisms
>> which can make such unsynchrized
>> processes save?
>
>flock(3)?
You want to be using fcntl(). flock() is a BSD-ism, and is coarse-grained
too (you lock the whole file). The fcntl() mechanism lets you do range
locking.
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From: Erik Naggum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.misc,comp.emacs,comp.editors
Subject: Re: Linux keyboard? (For emacs use)
Date: 30 Jan 1999 18:03:11 +0000
* [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tim Smith)
| Since the usual rule is not to *randomly* capitalize, but rather to
| capitalize all words that begin sentences, no information is lost. Think
| of it as an xor.
which means that words that already should be capitalized are no longer
distinguished from words that shouldn't. as far as I can see, one does
not downcase proper names, so XOR is wrong. XOR would have preserved
information. this is an OR operation.
| What information did you think was being destroyed, anyway?
whether a word is a proper name. if you never use proper names, no
information is lost. most people do, however.
#:Erik
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