Linux-Misc Digest #428, Volume #19 Fri, 12 Mar 99 14:13:12 EST
Contents:
Re: Public license question (Tim Smith)
Re: Public license question (Tim Smith)
Re: linux to windows (gus)
Re: Linux setup (Alan Flanary)
still logged in??? (djones)
Multiple screen ("Jean-R�ginald Louis")
Re: Multiple screen (David Kirkpatrick)
Re: Kernel Panic: No init found. (Glenn)
Re: Some questions (David Kirkpatrick)
Re: Public license question (Stephan Schulz)
learning about services (Stefano Ghirlanda)
Re: STAROFFICE 5.0 FilterUpdate! (Mircea)
Friends, penpals.. wanted? ("Personal Link")
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tim Smith)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: Public license question
Date: 12 Mar 1999 04:30:15 -0800
David Kastrup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Wrong. A plugin adds functionality to an existing program by
>extending it. The existing program's functionality gets changed.
>This is icing to a cake: it does change the cake, becoming an
>inseparable component of a whole derived work.
>
>The example, however, does not change the functionality of gcc. It
>just calls it via its advertised interface, in exactly the same way as
>it would have to be called anyway for work. This is putting the cake
But plugins use advertised interfaces, too. They just happen to be in the
same address space as the thing on the other side of the interface. The
problem here is that GPL was written back in the days when the software
ecology was simpler: there were operating systems and there were programs.
The only strange beast was the library, but that wasn't too strange.
Now we've got both static and dynamic libraries. We've got OLE and CORBA.
We've got plugins. Let's consider OLE. What are the GPL implications when
one OLE component uses another via its published interface? Depending on
how things are set up, the two components might be statically linked into the
same program, or one or both might reside in dynamic libraries mapped into
the same process, or they might be in different processes, or they might
be on different machines transparently hooked together via RPC.
--Tim Smith
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tim Smith)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: Public license question
Date: 12 Mar 1999 04:20:09 -0800
Barry Margolin wrote:
>
> Using what mechanism? The GPL is only enforceable by virtue of copyright
> law. Although it refers to itself as a license, I suspect that it would
> be considered as unenforceable as a shrinkwrap license. But copyright law
> provides the basis for setting restrictions on copying.
I don't think there is any doubt at all the GPL is enforceable. It is not
at all comparable to shrinkwrap licenses.
--Tim Smith
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From: gus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: linux to windows
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 17:58:06 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Robert Koechl wrote:
>
> Hi
>
> I would like to integrate a linux box into an existing windows NT
> network (not as a server but as a workstation). Linux will get its
> ip configuration from the NT server via dhcpcd (haven't tried it
> until now, but I hope it will work out). In order to make it possible
> for windows users to access files on the linux machine I want to install
> samba. However, I don't know if it is it possible to access the windows
> shares from the linux box? Can I use samba? I would be grateful
> if someone could give me some hints on how to do this.
>
> Many thanks
> Rob
Yes, see smbclient and smbmount.
I am not sure about printing to a printer on another machine though.
gus
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alan Flanary)
Crossposted-To: ibmnet.general,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Linux setup
Date: 12 Mar 1999 13:40:27 GMT
On 11 Mar 99 08:55:24 +0100, Georges Heinesch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>Yes, I know that. But the 111.111.111.111 was only an example. The
>address will change next time when I dialup. That's why I would like
>to know if it is possible to assign a fix name (like "foobar") to my
>machine independantly what my actual IP address is.
>
I don't see how. You would still nee to associate "foobar" with an IP
address, and that would change everytime you dial up.
--
Alan Flanary
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From: djones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: still logged in???
Date: 12 Mar 1999 18:19:26 GMT
All of you probably know when you use 'last' command..u will see users
login time and out but some how my users are 'still logged on' when i do
last command even they're not actually logged on.
it's so weird...i guess
Anyone got any idea how to fix this ?
Thanks-
David.
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From: "Jean-R�ginald Louis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Multiple screen
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 11:05:47 -0500
How can we use more than 1 screen with linux?
How want detail on hardware & software requirements.
( At leat I know I need more than 1 screen! ;-) )
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From: David Kirkpatrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Multiple screen
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 13:20:01 +0000
Jean-Reginald,
Not sure exactly what you want. If you want a second console session
Alt F2 and return with Alt F7. If you want windowning run X. Or this
may be missing the point. Do you want a second monitor with remote
login?
"Jean-R�ginald Louis" wrote:
>
> How can we use more than 1 screen with linux?
> How want detail on hardware & software requirements.
>
> ( At leat I know I need more than 1 screen! ;-) )
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From: Glenn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Kernel Panic: No init found.
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 13:01:15 -0500
Hi,
Yes I got this about a week or so ago with 2.2.2- very frustrating. I have
RedHat 5.2 and although I had all of the correct updates according to the
kernel documentation, I had bad rpm builds of iniscripts and modutilites. I
would either rebuild them, after verifying the required versions via the
kernel docs, or if you have RedHat use the sources referenced here:
http://www.redhat.com/support/docs/rhl/kernel-2.2/kernel2.2-upgrade.html
Good Luck,
Glenn
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >--> FS: Mounted root (ext2 files system) readonly.
> >--> Freeing unused kernel memory: 92k freed
> >--> Kernel Panic: No init found. Try passing init= option to kernel.
>
> After many days of trying to get a scsi raid on line I finally got
> the 2.2.3 kernel to see all the luns on the raid, but I ended up with
> the Kernel Panic. I have spent many hours seaching and reading
> docs and have found that many other people are having the same error.
> Tho it may be in diffrent parts of the boot process, the three lines above
> show up in most listings of errors involving kernel panic & init. And the
> freeing of kernel memory is a brand new message to me, first I have seen
> it past 5 years of linux use, is this a result of something else? or is
> this the problem?
>
> I can boot the 2.0.23-0.7(or something like that, orginal cd install)
> with the new scsi luns powered down, but I can not boot the recompiled
> 2.2.3 kernel with(or without?) the new luns. It sees the partion
> /dev/sda1, which is the root dev, and I have even set root=/dev/sda1
> on the lilo command line to no avail. I don't think it is a currupted
> /sbin/init (a FAQ responce to a bsd kernel panic init error) or maybe
> (2.0.23)/sbin/init is not compatable with 2.2.3?
>
> Anyone else solved this problem with kernel panic & init?
>
> Thanks in advance for any help or comments!
>
> Brian McCullough
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
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From: David Kirkpatrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Some questions
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 13:16:57 +0000
John Appleyard wrote:
>
> A few easy ones
>
> (1) If I 'cat' a binary file by mistake, I often end up with a garbaged
> system - all messages and prompts are translated into Klingon - or
> something like it. How do I recover without rebooting? Even exit
> doesn't fix it.
>
You probably hosed that session. Are you at the console without X or in
an xterm? Cat is less robust when diskplaying binary files. Less is
more able to handle displaying a mistake an living through it. It also
is more flexable in general. Cat usually gets hosted but even when the
cursor goes you can type into the blank line you can't see and exit to
kill that xterm and continue - at least if your in X. Or bring up
another xterm and kill that guy thats hosed. Worse case in x you can
ctl alt backspace to get out and restart x.
If your at the console you may try another virtual console with I
think alt F2, login and kill the hosed guy and return with alt F7.
d
> (2) I've set up Samba and it works fine, but I have to start it
> manually every time I log on? Where should I put the "smb start"
> command? (SuSE 6.0)
>
> (3) I have a vfat disk mounted, but can't write to it, except as root.
> Somebody suggested that I specify 'user' in /etc/fstab, and that sort of
> works - if I umount and mount it again, I can write to it, but how can I
> avoid the need to do that?
>
> (4) I've got a Freeserve connection working, and I can browse the web
> to my heart's content, but I'd like to do email and news too. The SuSE
> chapter of sendmail seems awfully complicated - do I really have to go
> through all that?
>
> TIA
> --
> John Appleyard [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stephan Schulz)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: Public license question
Date: 12 Mar 1999 18:06:06 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Isaac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On 11 Mar 1999 12:17:22 GMT, Stephan Schulz
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>I argue that it makes sense (Note: I do not argue legal reality here -
>>as far as I know there are no precedence cases yet) that if the only
>>purpose of A is to be combined with B into a running program, then it
>>does not matter if the user or the programmer combines A and B -
>>distributing A+B is covered by copyright, and since B (the key or
>>library) is already out there, distributing A alone is equivalent to
>>distributing A+B.
>>
>
>Despite it's popularity every time this A+B point is discussed,
>this equivalency argument is simply not valid. There are any number
>of situations where a legitimate final result can be acheived by
>either legal or illegal means. For that reason, it is not correct
>to argue that because the final state of one process is the
>same as that for a set of steps known to be illegal, that the
>first process must also be illegal.
Well, in one of my previous post I stated that I am pretty certain
that if a set of actions _obviously and intentionally_ leads to the
same result as another set of actions, it will very likely be viewed
as equivalent before the law.
>Example:
>
>It's legal for me to sell you a widget overpriced by $100, but
>it's not legal for me to sell you the widget at a fair price and then
>steal $100 of your money later even though the final result is the
>same as for the legitimate process. In the first case, once you
>find out about the overpricing, you'll probably even feel like I
>stole your money, but you'll have no recourse for recouping anything.
But the two situations are not the same. You only project some
variables, and ignore others. In particular, in the first case there
exists a (possibly implicit) valid contract for the exchange of the
money between us, in the second situation it does not.
>The process does matter!!
No doubt about it. However, see my argument above.
Stephan
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stefano Ghirlanda)
Subject: learning about services
Date: 12 Mar 1999 15:12:17 GMT
Hi all,
I would like to learn more about the services in /etc/services, to figure
out which ones I actually need. Some of the entries have no man page,
though. For example I have:
efs 520/tcp # for LucasFilm
and similar other line mysterious to me. Any pointer will be appreciated.
thanks,
Stefano
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From: Mircea <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: STAROFFICE 5.0 FilterUpdate!
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 13:24:21 -0500
Oh..did they add support for opening password-protected Word files?
MST
Benjamin Sher wrote:
>
> Dear friends:
>
> Just received the announcement from StarOffice that a new version of
> StarOffice 5.0 is available for Linux with a much-improved filter update
> for interoperatibility with Microsoft Office.
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From: "Personal Link"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Friends, penpals.. wanted?
Date: 12 Mar 1999 01:21:55 GMT
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