Linux-Misc Digest #428, Volume #26 Thu, 30 Nov 00 01:13:02 EST
Contents:
Re: login problems (Greg Varnadoe)
Re: E-mail client ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: multiple IDE-adapters (W Bauske)
Re: Cdrecord. ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Gnome and KDE (Sinner from the Prairy)
Re: Screw KDE 2.0!! - Im going crazy trying to install it. ("Michael Janssens")
Re: Gnome and KDE ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Gnome and KDE (Robert Kiesling)
Re: D-Link Networkcard DEF 530TX ("WME")
Re: D-Link Networkcard DEF 530TX (moonie;))
Re: Gnome and KDE ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Gnome and KDE (Robert Kiesling)
Re: What RealPlayer version do u have? (Sergey Grishin)
Re: Can't mount or dd nonstandard floppy (Vic Landry)
Re: Ok, putting money where my mouth is... (Jim Broughton)
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From: Greg Varnadoe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: login problems
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 02:26:19 GMT
In article <903qvh$1es$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
says...
>
>
> "Greg Varnadoe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > I cannot login as root on my Linux box at home
>
> <snip>
>
> > If I clear the root password (single user mode, edit /etc/passwd), when I
> > try to login as root I am still prompted for the root password.
>
> Just hit your enter key again.....
>
I tried that. It returns to the login prompt.
(occasional flash of incorrect login)
--
Greg Varnadoe
KG4FGR
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: E-mail client
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 02:29:47 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Trying to install it, I get an error when I run it about not finding a
> mailbox. However, if I create a mailbox using mkdir, it complains that
[...]
> How do I create a mailbox?
touch /var/spool/mail/<your user name>
chgrp mail /var/spool/mail/<your user name>
Or, assuming fetchmail and sendmail (or equivalent, I like postfix)
are running, just send yourself some email from another account, the
mailox will then be created.
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Jim Buchanan [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
=================== http://www.buchanan1.net/ ==========================
"A women came up to me and said, I'd like to poison your mind
with wrong ideas that appeal to you, though I am not unkind."
-They Might be Giants
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From: W Bauske <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: multiple IDE-adapters
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 03:06:00 GMT
Miguel De Buf wrote:
>
> Hi there,
>
> I am putting together a linux server with 6 disks. I plan installing
> two extra IDE-cards (PCI), so I would have 6 IDE controllers. I would
> attach one large disk to each controller (so I have 6 disks). Now I
> would use RAID1, so logically, I would see 3 disks at the software
> level.
>
> Does anybody know if it is possible to install 2 extra IDE-PCI cards
> onto the motherbord, so linux recognises them (and of course is able to
> use them) ? If so, are there limitations on this type of hardware ? Do
> I have to use a certain type/chipset ? If so, can someone point me to a
> location with more information about that ?
>
> That is a lot, any help would be greatly appreciated :-)
>
> Thanx in advance,
>
> Miguel De Buf
Promise UATA66 cards and HPT370 based cards work.
I've got systems with two Promise cards and they
work fine. Only tried one HPT370 based card so I
don't know if more than one of them works. You do
have to have the IDE-DMA patches to make them work.
Wes
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,de.comp.periph.cdrom
Subject: Re: Cdrecord.
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 10:11:04 GMT
In comp.os.linux.hardware Federico Baraldi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: My Mitsumi works well under Windoze .... and the error occour while
: starting to write .....
Just for the record:
The Mitsumi does give an error when in the *fixating stage*. It seems
to be a timing problem. It is annoing, but harmless. The disk will be
ok.
Your problem is a different one. I don't know what causes it, but it
might be related to the firmware of the drive. There are different
versions. Maybe your drive is too old for the new cdrecord-version.
Probably you can get it to work with an older(or newer) version of
cdrecord.
I also don't know, if it is possible to upgrade the drive's firmware.
Regards,
Friedhelm
--
Microsoft is NOT the answer. Microsoft is the Question.
The answer is: "NO!"
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Friedhelm Mehnert, Berliner Allee 42, 22850 Norderstedt, Germany
phone + fax: +49-40-5236562 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Sinner from the Prairy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Gnome and KDE
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 04:46:33 +0100
GC wrote:
> i'm very new to linux, so i don't nkow mucha bout the GUI enviroments or
> anything. well, i heard things about KDE, Gnome and X11. i was wondering
> could software that ran in one of these environments run on the other?
KDE and GNOME are desktop environments that run on top of "X", the
graphical user interface for Linux. Now, X is at version 11, release 6
(X11R6 or X11 for short).
And, yes, if you have the proper libraries, you can run (KDE/GNOME)
applications on (GNOME/KDE) desktop environment.
> also, are there any opinions on what is better and more stable? KDE, Gnome
> or X11? or any other environments? thanks
X11 is pretty stable ;)
KDE 1.1.2 or the latest KDE 2.0 appear more mature to me than GNOME. As
a hint, I regularly use KDE 2.0 and I'm pretty happy with it. I'm using
it in a K6-2 400 w/ 128Mb
With 64 MB and a P166 I would recomend you KDE 1.1.2 and not the KDE
2.0: being prettier and fancier means more RAM-hungry.
Try also AfterStep http://www.afterstep.org or Xfce http://www.xfce.org/
or ICEwm http://icewm.sourceforge.net/ with WindowMaker
http://www.windowmaker.org/ on top or even BlackBox
http://blackbox.alug.org/. They are very light though powerful!.
For a review of most (maybe all) the window managers and desktop
available for Linux, visit this page: http://www.plig.org/xwinman/
A wise advise: upgrade your RAM memory or you won't be able to run at
full blast KDE or GOME with useful applications. Or, instead, use ICEwm,
BlackBox or Xfce.
Salut,
Sinner
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Reply-To: "Michael Janssens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: "Michael Janssens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Screw KDE 2.0!! - Im going crazy trying to install it.
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 20:42:10 GMT
Jerry,
I installed this version of KDE2 and it works fine (SuSE 6.4). Still I do
not know how to make KDE2 my default Xwindows?
Shakes
"Jerry L Kreps" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:8vjf4q$d25$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> SuSE has a set of rpms for kde2 that worked very well for me.
> Since RH uses rpm and essentially the same dir structure
> they may work for you.. Also, there is some help on
> the webpage for what happens to you.
>
> http://www.suse.de/en/support/download/kde2/index.html
>
>
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > I really didn't want this discussion to be RedHat vs.Slackware or Gnome
> > vs. KDE
> >
> > I wanted to get KDE2 on my machine so my mom and mother in law would be
> > able to use Linux.
> >
> > I believe that KDE2 will give Linux a better user interface, in
> > addition that I like the tools that come with it.
> >
> > Right I installed RH7 with gnome only. Then I am installing the rms
> > likewise:
> >
> > libmng.rpm (qt needs it)
> > qt-2.2.1-6
> > kdesupport-2.01
> > kdelibs-2.0
> > kdelibs-sound-2.0-7. (kdebase needs it)
> > kdebase-2.01
> >
> > Then after that I should be able to come out to the gui login page
> > select kde as my interface, username, password, and boom I'm in right??
> >
> > WRONG . Still the screen opens for a second and then kicks backout to
> > the gui login screen.
> >
> > What is the deal guys???
> >
> >
> > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> > Before you buy.
>
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Gnome and KDE
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 03:55:53 GMT
"Garry Knight" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> In article <mvgV5.4711$[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "GC"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > i'm very new to linux, so i don't nkow mucha bout the GUI enviroments
> > or anything. well, i heard things about KDE, Gnome and X11. i was
> > wondering could software that ran in one of these environments run on
> > the other?
>
> They're not really environments: X11 is a windowing system, KDE and
> GNOME (GNU Network Object Model Environment, so GNOME not Gnome) are
> GUI desktop metaphors that run on top of X. Once X is up and running
> you can run any KDE, GNOME or X apps as long as the relevant libraries
> are installed.
GNOME and KDE may be looked at from multiple perspectives:
a) They're sets of libraries to help build sophisticated applications,
providing graphical widgets, and libs to parse configuration, do
interprocess communications, display documentation, and such;
b) They are sets of applications that use those libraries;
c) They include protocols to let their applications communicate with
each other as well as with some of the window management software,
if you use suitably written window managers (e.g. - kwm for KDE,
or Sawmill/Enlightenment/WindowMaker for GNOME).
The "metaphor" side of it is most nearly tied to c)...
The really CRITICAL thing is that they all run atop X, and X is
_specifically designed_ to multiplex and allow all sorts of apps using
all sorts of GUI toolkits to simultaneously run on it.
To a newcomer, it's not so obvious, but to anyone with long term
exposure to X, the question "Can they run together?" has the clear
answer:
"Don't be silly; OF COURSE THEY CAN. They'd be spectacularly rotten
X applications if they _COULDN'T_ run simultaneously."
It's not a dumb question; the point is that X was designed with this
kind of interoperability specifically in mind.
> > also, are there any opinions on what is better and more stable? KDE,
> > Gnome or X11? or any other environments? thanks
>
> Yes, there are lots of opinions. :o)
Indeed.
--
(concatenate 'string "cbbrowne" "@hex.net") <http://www.ntlug.org/~cbbrowne/>
Dijkstra probably hates me
(Linus Torvalds, in kernel/sched.c)
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Subject: Re: Gnome and KDE
From: Robert Kiesling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 04:30:43 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> "Garry Knight" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > In article <mvgV5.4711$[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "GC"
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > i'm very new to linux, so i don't nkow mucha bout the GUI enviroments
> > > or anything. well, i heard things about KDE, Gnome and X11. i was
> > > wondering could software that ran in one of these environments run on
> > > the other?
> >
> > They're not really environments: X11 is a windowing system, KDE and
> > GNOME (GNU Network Object Model Environment, so GNOME not Gnome) are
> > GUI desktop metaphors that run on top of X. Once X is up and running
> > you can run any KDE, GNOME or X apps as long as the relevant libraries
> > are installed.
>
> GNOME and KDE may be looked at from multiple perspectives:
> a) They're sets of libraries to help build sophisticated applications,
> providing graphical widgets, and libs to parse configuration, do
> interprocess communications, display documentation, and such;
> b) They are sets of applications that use those libraries;
> c) They include protocols to let their applications communicate with
> each other as well as with some of the window management software,
> if you use suitably written window managers (e.g. - kwm for KDE,
> or Sawmill/Enlightenment/WindowMaker for GNOME).
>
> The "metaphor" side of it is most nearly tied to c)...
>
> The really CRITICAL thing is that they all run atop X, and X is
> _specifically designed_ to multiplex and allow all sorts of apps using
> all sorts of GUI toolkits to simultaneously run on it.
>
> To a newcomer, it's not so obvious, but to anyone with long term
> exposure to X, the question "Can they run together?" has the clear
> answer:
> "Don't be silly; OF COURSE THEY CAN. They'd be spectacularly rotten
> X applications if they _COULDN'T_ run simultaneously."
>
> It's not a dumb question; the point is that X was designed with this
> kind of interoperability specifically in mind.
>
> > > also, are there any opinions on what is better and more stable? KDE,
> > > Gnome or X11? or any other environments? thanks
> >
> > Yes, there are lots of opinions. :o)
>
> Indeed.
> --
> (concatenate 'string "cbbrowne" "@hex.net") <http://www.ntlug.org/~cbbrowne/>
> Dijkstra probably hates me
> (Linus Torvalds, in kernel/sched.c)
OpenMootif :) But I think you're all seriously missing the point here.
X is a client/server GUI. The server runs on the machine with the
display, and all of the other programs, including the window manager
and desktop, send "requests" to the server. That means that any
program that can use the X protocol can operate with an X server,
regardless of operating system.
So, yes, they all "run" together.
--
Robert Kiesling
Linux FAQ Maintainer
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From: "WME" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: D-Link Networkcard DEF 530TX
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 04:48:54 GMT
How did u configure it?
I'm running slackware 7. I use 'menuconfig' to compile the kernel.
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:8vv89j$s9d$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> no I actually have that card right now. I run Slackware tho, and it auto
> configures my network and detects my card. However, I do know that that
> D-link card uses the via-rhine driver. I'm POSITIVE of that. Chris
>
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.
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From: moonie;) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: D-Link Networkcard DEF 530TX
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 23:54:55 -0500
On Fri, 24 Nov 2000, Viktor Polansky wrote:
>Help
>
>
>i have a D-Link DEF 530 TX, and i need a driver for Red HAt,
>
>I use 6. 2 Zooe
>
>Can anybody help me?
>
>Yours
>
>Viktor Polansky
Are you sure the card is a 530TX, or a 530TX+. The 530TX uses the via-rhine
(which should come with your distro), the 530TX+ uses the rtl8139 (which also
should come with your distro). I have both of these cards and they both work
flawlessly.
--
moonie ;)
Registered Linux User #175104
http://counter.li.org
KDE2
Kernel 2.4.0-test5
XFree86 4.0 Nvidia .94 drivers
RAID 0 Striped
Test-Pilots-R-Us ;)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Gnome and KDE
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 05:12:20 GMT
Robert Kiesling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> OpenMootif :) But I think you're all seriously missing the point
> here. X is a client/server GUI. The server runs on the machine
> with the display, and all of the other programs, including the
> window manager and desktop, send "requests" to the server. That
> means that any program that can use the X protocol can operate with
> an X server, regardless of operating system.
>
> So, yes, they all "run" together.
Fair enough; that does indeed point out a Real Good Reason to expect
interoperability. In practice, X is _basically_ a Unix thing,
although it was also fairly important on VMS, and I hear that some use
was made of it on MVS :-).
--
(concatenate 'string "cbbrowne" "@hex.net") <http://www.ntlug.org/~cbbrowne/>
Marriage means commitment. Of course, so does insanity.
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Subject: Re: Gnome and KDE
From: Robert Kiesling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 05:25:13 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> Robert Kiesling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > OpenMootif :) But I think you're all seriously missing the point
> > here. X is a client/server GUI. The server runs on the machine
> > with the display, and all of the other programs, including the
> > window manager and desktop, send "requests" to the server. That
> > means that any program that can use the X protocol can operate with
> > an X server, regardless of operating system.
> >
> > So, yes, they all "run" together.
>
> Fair enough; that does indeed point out a Real Good Reason to expect
> interoperability. In practice, X is _basically_ a Unix thing,
> although it was also fairly important on VMS, and I hear that some use
> was made of it on MVS :-).
Clients and servers also run on M$. But of course, you have to
pay for them.
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From: Sergey Grishin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: What RealPlayer version do u have?
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 07:37:58 +0200
Andrew Purugganan wrote:
> My RealPlayer (free) has expired and has been nagging me to upgrade. When
> I go check out RealPlayer Basic 8 they only have Win, Mac, and Unix
> versions. Does this mean I can grab the Unix version? I am currently on
> Mandrake 6.0 Venus with a 2.2-13mdk kernel.
>
> --
> jazz
> Registered linux user no. 164098 +--+--+--+ Litestep user no. 386
> Doesn't it bother you, that we have to search for intelligent life
> --- OUT THERE??
I have RH6.1 and I downloaded that version for Unix.OK, it works so that I
can hear sound
not more.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Vic Landry)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.slackware
Subject: Re: Can't mount or dd nonstandard floppy
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 06:04:27 GMT
On Mon, 27 Nov 2000 11:11:03 +0100, "Tim Allen, www.timallen.org"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I have a stack of floppies from a (now defunct) Smith Corona wordprocessor.
>A writer friend desperately needs the files on them. I can't figure out how
>to mount the floppies, or even to sucessfully dd them. Help! My absolutely
>non-techy buddy has his life's work on these floppies, and I can't let him
>down. I'm on SlackWare 4.0.
>
<snip>
Try contacting www.ontrack.com, they specialize in retreiving lost
data. They may be able to do it over the internet.
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From: Jim Broughton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Ok, putting money where my mouth is...
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 06:05:59 GMT
the_blur wrote:
>
> Ok guys, I'm trying to come up with a non-goofy pinguino (readers of my "Is
> design really that overrated?" article will know what this means), I know
> it's possible, because they are graceful and pretty when they swim.
>
> Anyway (as a pet project), I'm coming up with an umbrella pinguino logo
> (maybe to stamp on boxes of approved / compliant hardware)
>
> After I finish this, I'm tackling that water buffalo-looking thing the free
> software foundation uses.
>
> Here is the early "alpha source" =)
>
> http://pages.infinit.net/outcasts/pinguinos.html
>
> If anyone wants to lend me a hand, drop me a line.
>
> NOTE: The usage of the spanish word pinguino is deliberate, to give that
> latin charm to what otherwise would be a little, fat, clumsy, shuffling
> creature of the antarctic climates. And don't try to tell me there are
> pinguinos in the Galapagos! The prettiest are Rockhoppers and Emperors!
> which sort attacked Linus BTW? Anyone know?=)
Very good art. But for a real penguin logo (a small animation really)
take a look at this web site. Its at the top of the page and its rockin'
(cool shades too! (not really)
http://www.ecst.csuchico.edu/~dranch/LINUX/index-linux.html
--
Jim Broughton
(The Amiga OS! Now there was an OS)
If Sense were common everyone would have it!
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