Linux-Misc Digest #476, Volume #19 Tue, 16 Mar 99 06:13:14 EST
Contents:
Re: change X virtual resolution on fly? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: FreeBSD vs. Linux vs. Windows ("Colin Ling")
linuxthread (ckchan)
Re: AARGH!!! (Charles E Taylor IV)
Re: halt for standard users ? (Vincent ROQUES)
Re: Is trn the best (Floyd Davidson)
Re: version control - complicated diff usage (Frank Niessink)
Re: Celeron 300 MHz or PII 266 MHz (Stuart Miles)
Re: halt for standard users ? (solution + question impression) (David Faure)
Re: Auto login ? ("Ing. Joaqu�n G. Mascar�a V.")
Re: Is there a FREE S.U.S.E distrubution ?? (Michael Creel)
Re: New User (Ghost)
Re: Slackware on a second HDD (jan schrik)
Re: New 2.2.3 kernel RPM packages available (Mike W)
Re: Starwars Trailer (Glen Turner)
Re: this aint a brag BUT!!! (Ulf Bohman)
Mounting CDROM in 8.3 uppercase mode (Anas Nashif)
Re: Can Linux use 36-bit Xeon addressing? (david parsons)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: change X virtual resolution on fly?
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 00:33:43 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Seth Van Oort <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I know you can change the screen resolution with ctrl-alt-[+-], but this
> doesn't change the desktop resolution. Can this also be done? Thanks.
>
> Seth
>
Use "gray +" instead of normal. If doesn't help, check what Xserver you're
using and look into XF86Config in the appropriate section. Perhaps it's the
only mode for this server. If XF86Config is OK, try to examine errors:
shutdown your X's run "X" in text console try ctrl-alt-[+-] then switch back
to that console - perhaps you'll see some error messages that modelines are
incorrect. This may mean that you specified wrong sync rates for your monitor
or wrong RAMDAC or etc.
Sergey
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From: "Colin Ling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: FreeBSD vs. Linux vs. Windows
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 09:19:03 -0000
There are TWO multi-user NT products:
WinFrame (for NT 3.51) from Citrix and Windows Terminal Server (for NT 4)
from Microsoft.
Frank Crary wrote in message <7ckgm5$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>Mikhail Kruk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>You can setup remote services on NT. Including fully Unix compatible
>>ones. Like rsh, rlogin, telnet...
>
>Ok, let me get this straight, since I'm not sure we are talking about
>the same thing. Are you saying that I can rlogin _to_ an NT machine,
>whether or not someone is on from console, start a job running in the
>background on the NT machine, log out, and come back in the morning
>expecting it to have finished by using otherwise idle CPU time over
>night? I know NT can let you use rlogin, etc. to connect to another
>machine, but that isn't what I was talking about. I was talking about
>many users being logged on to, or running processes on, the NT machine
>at the same time. From what little I know about the NT operating system,
>that would require fairly radical changes, ``some kind of unix
compatibility
>package'' (as you put it.) For my purposes, if two or more people can't use
>the same machine at the same time, it is using an unacceptable poor
operating
>system.
>
> Frank Crary
> CU Boulder
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From: ckchan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: jaring.os.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup,alt.os.linux.slackware
Subject: linuxthread
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 06:22:14 +0800
Greetings,
tried to compile linuxthread-0.71 (needed for mtvp and x11amp-0.9
arrgghh !) , but not succesfull
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Binary:/tmp/linuxthreads-0.71# make
gcc -pipe -O2 -Wall -m486 -D__BUILDING_LINUXTHREADS -Isysdeps/i386
-Ilibc_r -D_POSIX_THREADS -c pthread.c -o pthread.o
In file included from /usr/include/linux/sched.h:17,
from pthread.h:26,
from pthread.c:25:
/usr/include/asm/semaphore.h:134: warning: `struct task_struct' declared
inside
parameter list
/usr/include/asm/semaphore.h:134: warning: its scope is only this
definition or
declaration,
/usr/include/asm/semaphore.h:134: warning: which is probably not what
you
want.
/usr/include/asm/semaphore.h: In function `waking_non_zero':
/usr/include/asm/semaphore.h:141: `PAGE_MASK' undeclared (first use this
function)
/usr/include/asm/semaphore.h:141: (Each undeclared identifier is
reported
only once
/usr/include/asm/semaphore.h:141: for each function it appears in.)
/usr/include/asm/processor.h: At top level:
In file included from /usr/include/linux/sched.h:74,
from pthread.h:26,
from pthread.c:25:
/usr/include/asm/processor.h:278: warning: `struct task_struct' declared
inside
parameter list
/usr/include/asm/processor.h:282: warning: `struct task_struct' declared
inside
parameter list
make: *** [pthread.o] Error 1
Binary:/tmp/linuxthreads-0.71#
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using slackware 3.4 , kernel 2.2.0. for the moment not thinking of
using glibc yet, anyway to compile it with libc ??
thanks in advance
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Charles E Taylor IV)
Subject: Re: AARGH!!!
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 19:34:14 -0500
In article <01be6e6f$26b56580$a8f1f482@karl>,
"Karl Bengtsson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I just (by mistake) deleted ALL of my schoolwork for the last FIVE YEARS!!!
> And together with it, A LOT of other important information... I will NEVER
> EVER give Linux access to my windows drives again!
This is hardly the fault of Linux...
> This is the story:
> Linux has somehow been messed up bad. I get the (admittedly stupid) idea
> that "hey, just like windows, format and reinstall!"
> So what do I do? I try to remove as much info as possible from the
> filesystem,
Here's where I'm confused - if you're going to do a complete "format
and reinstall", why bother deleting anything at all? The reinstall
procedure will do that for you.
Better solutions for the windows drive issue mught be to:
* Have a "transfer" partition that both Windows and Linux can see (for
the paranoid)
* Only mount the Windows drive when you "need" it (you don't *have* to
mount it at boot time)
* Mount the windows drive read only
* Be more careful when "cleaning" your files
Or ...
> I NEED to get a backup device,
--
========================================================
Charles E Taylor IV <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
========================================================
Visit me on the web!
http://orangesherbert.ces.clemson.edu
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From: Vincent ROQUES <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,fr.comp.os.linux.configuration
Subject: Re: halt for standard users ?
Date: 16 Mar 1999 10:00:24 GMT
bonjour,
Frederic Hoerni wrote:
> hello
> how can i do to enable users to halt the system ? (only root can do that on
> my configuration)
>
> thanks
>
> fred ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
j'ai exactement le m�me probl�me, �tant seul � me servir de ma station je
voudrai bien
autoriser mon compte normal � �teindre ma machine sans devoir me reloger en
root.
comment faire
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Floyd Davidson)
Subject: Re: Is trn the best
Date: 16 Mar 1999 08:56:53 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Alan Curry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Wlmet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>I know trn is not the most intuitive newsreader, but I understood it to be the
>>fastest and most efficient.
>>
>>However, it takes forever to get the overview files. HOw can I fix this
>>problem? What is the best text based newsreader if not trn?
>
>trn is the best, but if your only access to Usenet is NNTP over a modem, you
>will suffer. That's just not fast enough to really support a good newsreader
>with powerful search features. Hell, a T1 isn't fast enough. To read news
>correctly, you really need to be on the same LAN (>=10Mbit) as the news
>server.
>
>"trn is the most efficient" may be true, or it may not, but it is definitely
>more efficient than luser newsreaders like pine or Netscrape. Because of its
>powerful killfiles and threading, you spend less time manually wading through
>articles that don't interest you.
>
>But "trn is the fastest" is definitely not true. In order to be less
>demanding on the user, it is _more_ demanding on your bandwidth.
>
>When I was stuck with NNTP on a slow link, I just started trn once per boot
>and left it running forever. The startup time really is the worst of it.
I have the (dis)advantage of using trn over everything from an
ethernet to a 16.8Kbps modem connection (via satellite no less,
with 600ms ping times).
I find T1 speeds sufficiently fast, though eithernet is noticably
faster. Actually I find 128Kbps fine (real 56Kbps too, though
not a PCM modem).
At 33Kbps it is tolerable. At 16Kbps it is annoying...
However, over a 33Kbps modem connection trn only takes 30
seconds to start up, so I don't see that as terrible. Note
however that some NNTP servers will insist that trn fetch the
entire active file first, and that can take *forever* to load!
One comment that might help, is that trn should be run from a
script or an alias. I use a script (or actually several of
them) and can start trn on different NNTP servers or on the same
server with an entirely different .newsrc file. Generally I
start it with the -I -K -M -m and -q options. I don't turn
threading on either.
Floyd
--
Floyd L. Davidson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Ukpeagvik (Barrow, Alaska) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Pictures of the North Slope at <http://www.ptialaska.net/~floyd>
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From: Frank Niessink <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: version control - complicated diff usage
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 99 11:8:18
In gnu.misc.discuss Sascha Spangenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi there,
> is s.o. out there who knows how to do the following....
> I have a file called foo version 1.0
> I edit foo v1.0 and save it as v1.1
> I further edit v1.1 and save it as v1.2
> Now I copy foo v1.0 to - say foo2 v1.0- edit this file and save it at
> v1.1
> At this stage I want to apply the same changes to foo2 v1.1 as I did in
> foo from v1.1->v1.2
> Assume that the parts where changes need to be made shall be
> * identical in foo v1.1 and foo2 v1.1 BUT
> * at different positions withing the files...
> Is there a way of doing this with diff or so???
> Any ideas???
If you have this kind of problem often you might want to look in a version
control system, like CVS (see http://www.cyclic.com/).
I use it for source code, but also for papers and my thesis...
Ciao, Frank
--
"Charming man," he said. "I wish I had a daughter so I could forbid her to
marry one ..." "You wouldn't need to," said Ford. "They've got as much sex
appeal as a road accident."
-- Douglas Adams, 'The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy'
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From: Stuart Miles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Celeron 300 MHz or PII 266 MHz
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 09:44:11 +0000
Ghost wrote:
>
> Yes. The older P-2's run at 66Mhz. New ones at 100Mhz.
> Multiply 100 by any clock multiplier and you'll always get a multiple of
> 10.
> 66 x clock multiplier on the other hand yeilds 233, 266,333... etc...
But I believe that later PIIs are multiplier locked.
--
Stuart Miles Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Alenia Marconi Systems Phone: +44 1276 63311
Views expressed are mine and not those of Alenia Marconi Systems
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Faure)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,fr.comp.os.linux.configuration
Subject: Re: halt for standard users ? (solution + question impression)
Date: 16 Mar 1999 10:20:05 GMT
[Posted and mailed]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Vincent ROQUES <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> bonjour,
>
> Frederic Hoerni wrote:
>
>> hello
>> how can i do to enable users to halt the system ? (only root can do that on
>> my configuration)
>>
>> thanks
>>
>> fred ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
chmod a+s /sbin/shutdown
chmod a+s /sbin/halt
> j'ai exactement le m�me probl�me, �tant seul � me servir de ma station je
> voudrai bien
> autoriser mon compte normal � �teindre ma machine sans devoir me reloger en
> root. comment faire
C'est plus dur.
Cr�e un groupe pour ton utilisateur (si c'est pas deja le cas)
et utilise chgrp sur ces fichiers
et chmod a+s pour le 'sticky' bit
et chmod o-= pour �viter que les autres utilisateurs puissent s'en servir
Rien � voir : quelqu'un arrive � imprimer avec un noyau 2.2.1 et une imprimante
parall�le normale ?
J'ai lp, parport et parport_pc en module, mais 'lpr nomdufichier' donne
dans les messages syst�mes
kernel: lp: driver loaded but no devices found
modprobe: can't locate module parport_lowlevel
et ne fait rien d'autre.
(les modules se chargent sans probl�me, pourtant...)
et cat fichier >/dev/lp0 (comment savoir si c'est lp0 ou lp1?)
affiche
zsh: operation not supported by device: /dev/lp0
--
David FAURE
[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.insa-lyon.fr/People/AEDI/dfaure/index.html
KDE, Making The Future of Computing Available Today
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From: "Ing. Joaqu�n G. Mascar�a V." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Auto login ?
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 01:58:54 -0600
Yes, what Tommy says is why to log someone if you could start your
applications automatic as the services in windows, the difference is ....
that in Linux won't hang. :=)
Tommy Willoughby escribi� en mensaje <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>Dion Burger wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>> I need linux to boot up without any user interaction t.i automatic login,
>> watchdog features with autoreset etc.Does anyone knows which config files
to
>> edit to get this funtionality. Also after login which config file is
used
>> to auto start applications/scripts?
>
>Okay, I'll bite.......to have some set of processes run automatically is
>one thing - but why would you need to have someone logged in?
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From: Michael Creel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Is there a FREE S.U.S.E distrubution ??
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 10:19:11 +0100
Boot with the floppy, then when yast comes up select install from ftp. I
did this using the sunsite server in the UK. You would put
"sunsite.doc.ic.ac.uk" as the server. For the install directory, on this
server it's /packages/Linux/SuSE-Linux/6.0 After that, log in as
anonymous, hit a few returns, and sit back and watch it install. No
problem. I agree that it's not worth doing this over a modem, but it
works great with a direct internet connection.
David Kirkpatrick wrote:
>
> Hi,
> I've been looking around the net trying to find a free Suse
> distribution. A few places have ?? lots of files but non say You found
> it - here is the tar/gz go for it.
> The doc I see is about loading from a floppy you can get off the net but
> it then refers to completing the install with a CD. There is no place
> at metalab.unc or cc.gatech.edu that again says the distribution is in
...
--
Michael Creel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Tel. 93-581-1696 Fax. 93-581-2012
Dept. of Economics and Economic History
Universitat Autonoma de Barcelona
"Life is too short to waste time doing much of anything"
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From: Ghost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: New User
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1999 19:50:14 -0500
Colm Dougan wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have been reading a lot of the FAQ's etc. about Linux and have a few
> questions :
>
> 1. What is the best Distribution, I have read that Red Hat has won a few
> awards etc. (my main uses of Linux will be programming, networking,
> perhaps some X windows stuff)
Try Redhat. Very easy to set up (Easier than installing NT from my
experience).
>
> 2. is the X Windows system worth installing, i.e. is it good enough to
> justify the amount of Hard Disk space it requires (I am pretty good with
> shell environments but prefer Windows type environments for some
> things).
Yes. But you're going to have to experiment with Windows Managers. I use
Window Maker and find that it is very easy to use, intuitive and feature
rich. I also recommend checking out KDE and Gnome, but it's all personal
preference.
X-Windows Highly recommended, but not necessary. (For example: Netscape for
webbrowsing, Gimp for graphics editing etc.. don't limit yourself by not
installing X).
>
> 3. are there any good programming IDE's for C, C++ or Java
X-Emacs is really good. But I use Something called JCC (J - Code Crusader)
for editing and the command line for compiling. Although JCC has
compilation\debugging support, I find command line much easier to deal with
not to mention more robust. By definition, Linux is a good IDE in itself
:).
>
> 4. as regards installation, I would like to try and have a crack at
> downloading it and then installing it, as I think I would learn a lot
> from doing it this way. Are there any good websites on this subject or
> is it generally a bad idea (I have read a few of the FAQ's that come
> with the various distributions but none of them seem to say the things I
> want to know, i.e. what files do I need, what steps should I follow
> etc.)
arg. Save the hassle get it on CD. You don't learn all too much from
installing it via network.
But if you want, www.redhat.com is a good place. or Linux.org... many
sites.
- Lin (ux)
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From: jan schrik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.slackware
Subject: Re: Slackware on a second HDD
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 11:43:35 +0100
just use fdisk with _no_ drivename and u'll see the partitions available than u
can define your native Linux partition and your swap partition.
Wael Sedky wrote:
> Hi,
> How can I install slackware 3.6 on a second hard drive? I am familiar with
> linux. I have installed it about a dozen times before, but on one partition.
>
> I can't find my hard drive when I run "fdisk"
>
> I have win98 on a 2GB partition and 340MB partition on the first drive.
> The second drive is currently fat formatted (to be deleted) 1GB.
>
> when i run the boot and root disks. I noticed
>
> hda: hda1 hda2 <hda5>
> hdc: [PTBL][621/64/63] hdc1
>
> Is this hdc my second drive?
>
> I tried doing fdisk hdc, but i didn't get the fdisk program running. It
> looked like there were some partition table errors although the drive is OK
> with windows.
>
> Any clues? regardless of my errors how can i install linux on a second hdd?
> how can i use fdisk on the second hdd that is?
>
> Please email
> Thank you for your help
> Wael
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
--
The most exciting phrase to hear in science, the one that heralds new
discoveries, is not "Eureka!" (I found it!) but "That's funny ..."
-- Isaac Asimov
J.H. Schrik
IOC-dokumentatie
Gak Nederland bv
Postbus 8300
1005 CA Amsterdam
tel: +206872545
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.gak.nl
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mike W)
Subject: Re: New 2.2.3 kernel RPM packages available
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 04:04:49 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Mandrake is a KDE-configured tweaked distribution based on Redhat 5.2.
Mike
On Mon, 15 Mar 1999 06:16:35 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tiger) wrote:
:Gael Duval <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
:
:
:>We have integrated some new RPM with kernel2.2.3. It is available for
:>Linux-Mandrake 5.2/5.3 and RedHat 5.2. We have put all details for
:>clean installation. However, this is still for tests, not for
:>production use.
:
:>The packages are available for download on many mirrors from:
:>http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/kernel2.2-upgrade.html
:
:The web page mention steps for upgrading to kernel 2.2.3 under
:Mandrake 5.2/5.3, it doesn't say same rpm packages can be
:applied for RedHat 5.2. Can I use the same rpm packages in
:ftp.sunet.se/pub/Linux/distributions/mandrake/updates/kernel2.2/RPMS
:to apply to RedHat 5.2?
:
:In other words, are rpm packages for mandrake linux interchangable
:for RedHat Linux?
:
:I couldn't find kernel-2.2.x.i386.rpm for Redhat yet, checked
:several Redhat mirror sites, no success so far. I need a
:newer kernel than 2.0.36 because RedHat 5.2 couldn't handle
:the builtin LAN card in my Hitachi Visionbook Pro.
:
:>Please report any bugs with those new packages to:
:>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
:
:>- --
:>< Gael DUVAL - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://linuxmandrake.com >
:>QPL : "With the release of this license, KDE and the Qt Free Edition
:>are truly Open Source(tm)". Bruce Perens, Opensource.org.
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Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 19:20:04 +1030
From: Glen Turner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Starwars Trailer
Daniel Duque Campayo wrote:
>
> Hi, Im trying to see the new starwars trailer and it uses a codec that
> xanim doesn't support. Do you know if there is any program for Linux
> which support Sorenson codec (E18).
Xanim as shipped with Linux distributions doesn't support
all the codecs that Xanim can support. This is because
the Xanim author was given some codec details under an
NDA and only distributes these codecs as object modules.
Install the SRPM or source for Xanim. Get the .o files
for the NDAed codecs from the Xanim homepage. Modify the
Makefile. Compile, link, test and install.
Don't like this? Then hassle the CODEC manufacturers to
publically publish the details of their codecs and hassle
LucasFilm only to use publically specified codecs.
--
Glen Turner Network Specialist
Tel: (08) 8303 3936 Information Technology Services
Fax: (08) 8303 4400 The University of Adelaide 5005
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] South Australia
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From: Ulf Bohman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: this aint a brag BUT!!!
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 11:27:46 +0100
Oh, man. Looks as if you're our multi boot champion. I settle with
RH 5.0
RH 5.2
WinNT4.0
Win95
Win95 (another with special features)
I'd like to try out BeOS, but disk space is running low.
/Ulf
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From: Anas Nashif <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: de.comp.os.unix.linux.misc
Subject: Mounting CDROM in 8.3 uppercase mode
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 11:50:36 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hallo,
An application i am trying to install needs the files in uppercase.
On other OSs there is the map option or the hsfs filesystem.
I found a patch at linuxmama.com, but it's only for 2.0.33! Any
ideas how i can do it with new 2.2 Kernels?
Thanks,
Anas
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From: o r c @ p e l l . p o r t l a n d . o r . u s (david parsons)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Can Linux use 36-bit Xeon addressing?
Date: 16 Mar 1999 02:17:48 -0800
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Robert Krawitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> 2 GB RAM is a satisfactory virtual address space for a single process
>> for most purposes, but 1 or 2 GB RAM is not a satisfactory upper limit
>> on RAM today.
>
>but these are not `most purposes'. the big ram user will almost
>certainly need a shitload of ram for *one* process.
Not likely, in my experience.
But do continue with your misconceptions.
____
david parsons \bi/ Sheesh.
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