Linux-Misc Digest #476, Volume #20 Thu, 3 Jun 99 13:13:14 EDT
Contents:
Re: Netscrape Plugins (Michel Catudal)
Re: SuSE vs Red Hat? (Michel Catudal)
Re: Anybody using NTFS write support? (Michel Catudal)
Re: Help:Core dumps when calling C routine rexec (J. Sako)
Re: db and dbm format (Christopher B. Browne)
Re: Help:Core dumps when calling C routine rexec (J. Sako)
Re: telnet in as root? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: DHCP client problem with 2.2.x ("zxm")
Re: SuSE 6.1 Cheep CD (William Mount)
Re: Download 128-bit Netscape via FTP... (Marc Mutz)
Re: Help w/Linux Problem (Mihaly Gyulai)
Re: whee is FETCH? (gus)
Re: Help w/Linux Problem ("Art S. Kagel")
Re: Does Java run well on Linux? (Mike Frisch)
Problems with glibc2/xlibs (Robert Tuck)
Re: strange network problem (Stefano Ghirlanda)
Wordperfect for Linux installation problem ("J Schieke")
Re: Need reasons for Mandrake over RH ("Rushuru")
Re: Odd Tripwire 1.2 Problem (Aran Cox)
Re: SuSE vs Red Hat? (Paul Hands)
CRW4416 crashes my system .. a little help please ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Is This Illegal? (K Lee)
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From: Michel Catudal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Netscrape Plugins
Date: 2 Jun 1999 21:38:07 -0500
Mircea wrote:
>
> For watching CNN, I may have a solution for you, if you cannot setup
> your realplayer 5.0 as a plugin. Go to
> http://www.real.com/products/player/linux.html and download the G2
> player for Linux, it plays the CNN content (which is encoded as crap,
> anyway) flawlessly. It doesn't come with a plugin, though. To make it
> work, make sure you have installed libstdc++-2.8.0-14, the one that
> comes with RedHat 5.2, because it won't work with any other version.
>
> MST
?????
I have RedHat 6.0 and libstdc++-2.9.c-12 and it works beautifully. My
only problem with it is that unlike winblows
it doesn't let me save the stations.
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From: Michel Catudal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.portable
Subject: Re: SuSE vs Red Hat?
Date: 2 Jun 1999 20:56:03 -0500
Keith Phillips wrote:
>
> Much agreement from me. I've used RH 4.1, 4.2, and 5.1. When 6.0 came
> out, I thought about it, then I thought about the price jump :-( I'd
> been thinking about using a different distro for a while, anyway, so
> I went with SuSE. Looked at Debian, but they didn't ship (or recommend)
> the 2.2.x kernel...
>
????
At Cheapbytes I found those prices
S.U.S.E 6.1 $34.95
RedHat 6.0 $1.99
Mandrake 6.0 $1.99
BSD 3.2 $7.99
Slackware 4.0 $3.99
Price jump you say?
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From: Michel Catudal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Anybody using NTFS write support?
Date: 2 Jun 1999 21:47:02 -0500
John Burton wrote:
>
> I tried it and it broke my NTFS partition after about 1 hour. Maybe
> that was a conincidence, but I won't try it again for a while.
>
When I tried I had to reinstall NT that same day because
the partition was hozed. Stay away from it until some
brave soul tests it for you.
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From: J. Sako <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Help:Core dumps when calling C routine rexec
Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 09:46:28 -0500
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher B. Browne)
Subject: Re: db and dbm format
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 03 Jun 1999 02:51:26 GMT
On 2 Jun 1999 17:31:13 GMT, James <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted:
>Can anyone explain what the .db and .dbm formats are and what program(s)
>use them?
.db tends to be used by programs that use the Berkeley "DB-lib" *library.*
That doesn't affix a particular program to it; it affixes a development
library.
Similarly (though since there are more options, more confusingly), .dbm
tends to be used by variations of the DBM library. You're likely to have
GDBM (the GNU version), NDBM ("new" DBM), and possibly other such libraries
on your system. Again, this defines a library, and not forcibly an
application.
Note that DB-lib is a "more modern" variation on DBM, with the added
functionality that instead of restricting you to using hash tables to store
data (as is the case with the others), you also have options of using
B-Trees and linear lists, which may have preferable properties for your
application. The latest "Sleepycat DB," the most modern variation of the
Berkeley libraries, adds in networked access to databases as well as the
ability to do some transactional stuff with locking, roll-back, and the likes.
You might want to enlighten us as to what application you think produced the
.dbm/.db file, as that is more likely to be useful in the interpretation of
it than simply what database library was embedded in the application.
--
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-- Henry Spencer <http://www.hex.net/~cbbrowne/lsf.html>
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From: J. Sako <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Help:Core dumps when calling C routine rexec
Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 09:24:41 -0500
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: telnet in as root?
Date: Thu, 03 Jun 1999 00:54:18 GMT
In article <7irg6d$d0v$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"John Burton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>John Burton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in article
>><7irebn$bj1$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>>> It's not always a security risk. I've got two computers in my house
>>> on their own network so there is no risk and it's appriate to be
>>> able to do the easiest thing.
> George Georgakis wrote in message
<01beaaa3$52a52b60$0101a8c0@george>...
>> Do *either* of those systems have Net access? If so, then you *do*
>> have a security risk.
> Well you're right of course. I retract what I said, there _is_ a
> security risk.
No, you were right the first time. Unless you are logging in as root
[or 'su'ing, for that matter] *remotely*, the security risk is minimal
to none.
This is one of the most wide-spread myths around, and I'd like to debunk
it here and now:
The reason 'telnet' access is denied to root is in order to discourage
unencrypted passwords from being sent over the wire -- and that is the
ONLY reason.
If you log in as a non-root user, and then 'su' to root, you have
violated security procedures in *exactly* the same way as telnetting in
as root. In fact, it is actually *easier* for a hacker to get the root
password that way, since he/she only needs to subvert _any_ of the
accounts in group 0, rather than the root account itself [simply create
a spoof script called "su" and modify the user's PATH].
Stop spouting nonsense you read on usenet years ago. So long as you
only log in from within your own network, it doesn't matter whether you
have telnet open to root or not -- it does not affect security unless
passwords are sent across the internet.
That said, it's *still* a much better idea to use SSH1 for all
connections, and to disable telnet and ftp entirely.
--
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From: "zxm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: DHCP client problem with 2.2.x
Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 22:42:42 +0800
I have a problem just like you. I used dhcpcd 0.6x under kernel 2.0.34, it
worked fine, but after I have compiled the kernel to 2.2.9, dhcpcd stop
working(when startup, it hanged and display "Using dhcp on eth0...failed"),
I upgrade dhcpcd to 1.37 and nothing changed, when I run "dhcpcd -d", and a
line "dhcpstart: ioctl SIOCSIFFLAGS: Resource temporarily unavailable"
appended in the log file. I tried remove anything in /etc/dhcpc including
the directory, and runs it again,I got 5 lines added:
broadcasting DHCP_DISCOVER
corrupted UDP msg with uh_ulen=337 in_cksum=-2 discarded
last message repeated 5 times
corrupted UDP msg with uh_ulen=337 in_cksum=-2 discarded
timed out waiting for a valid DHCP server response
Why? How can solve it?
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From: William Mount <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: SuSE 6.1 Cheep CD
Date: Thu, 03 Jun 1999 09:52:48 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I have a copy of the SUSE 6.1 CD. It comes with everything including word
perfect for linux and star office 5.1
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi.
> I want to upgrade my SuSE 5.3 to a newer version. Have anyone tried the
> $2 SuSE 6.1 CD from Linuxmall? It doesnt say whats included. java
> compiler? c++ compiler? KDE? Gnome? Or would you recomend to by it some
> place else?
>
> --
> Ola Andersson
> http://hem2.passagen.se/mnomn/
>
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Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 21:39:35 +0200
From: Marc Mutz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Download 128-bit Netscape via FTP...
Windows 10000 wrote:
>
> ftp://ftp.replay.com/pub/crypto/browsers/128bit/CommunicatorUS-v460/
don't try: connection refused
Marc Mutz
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From: Mihaly Gyulai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Help w/Linux Problem
Date: Thu, 03 Jun 1999 05:43:18 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Brian) wrote:
> Can someone out there please help me. Someone gave me a HD w/Linux
> installed on it, but I dont want it on there. Is there anyway at all
> to remove it and still be able to use all of the drive?
Yes, there is a way, but you need either a password for 'root', or
a rescue floppy disk...
Login as 'root', start 'fdisk' or 'cfdisk', and delete the Linux
partitions (don't forget the 'write' command).
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From: gus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: whee is FETCH?
Date: Thu, 03 Jun 1999 17:09:53 +0100
It has been a while ...
I think you first need to set up the leafnode correctly ... the leafnode
configuration is a little tricky. Work through it.
Then, run "fetch -create" to download a list of the available newsgroups
from your source news server.
Then, create files in /var/spool/news/interesting.groups/... using
"touch" which indicates to fetch which groups to "follow".
The best explaination has to be in the leafnode mini-howto.
Cheers
gus
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> hello
>
> i setup leafnode as per instructionsbut and after a reboot i try
> typing fetch (after logging on) but nothing happens?
>
> do i need to add an absolute path to fetch???
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From: "Art S. Kagel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Help w/Linux Problem
Date: Thu, 03 Jun 1999 11:46:09 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Brian wrote:
>
> Can someone out there please help me. Someone gave me a HD w/Linux
> installed on it, but I dont want it on there. Is there anyway at all
> to remove it and still be able to use all of the drive? Quick and
> painless would be nice, but if not, it's ok. Thanks in advance.
You can either perform a low-level format on the drive using your
controller's firmware which could not hurt and then use fdisk to create
partitions or just run fdisk and delete all of the existing partitions
and create your own new ones setting the partition types apropriately.
Once you have sanitized the partition table, use your OS utilities
(format or mkfs or whatever) to create filesystem(s) on the new
partitions.
Art S. Kagel
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mike Frisch)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.caldera,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Does Java run well on Linux?
Date: 3 Jun 1999 16:24:30 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Mon, 31 May 1999 16:12:36 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Java programs dont run well on my windows 95 PC, they are slow and cause
>my system to hang. My PC has a 486 CPU w/ 64 MB RAM.
>
>I would like to learn Java programming. On this old
>486 PC, i am wodering if it would be better to use Linux.
Java will not run much better (if at all) on this slow machine. Java is a
resource hog and even on much faster machines (ie. P166 or better), it's
still slow. Either you'll have to tolerate the poor performance or update
your machine.
Mike.
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From: Robert Tuck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Problems with glibc2/xlibs
Date: Thu, 03 Jun 1999 17:18:52 +0100
Can somebody clarify things about glibc2? At the moment I have a libc5
system, with glibc2 installed in /usr/local/lib. As I understand it, I
should be able to run anything (binaries, not compile until I set up
gcc) which requires either glibc2 or libc5 with no further mods.
However, when I try to update my XServer to the glibc2 version of
XFree86, lots of stuff using the Xlibs such as gs, netscape break. Also,
if I stick with the libc5 version of X, I cannot install the glibc2
version of netscape 4.6? What is going on?
Any help would be appreciated.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stefano Ghirlanda)
Subject: Re: strange network problem
Date: 3 Jun 1999 16:13:48 GMT
Hi,
I have upgraded from redhat 5.2 to 6.0, and I have a problem with my
networking setup. For example:
stefano: stefano> ping localhost
PING localhost (127.0.0.1): 56 data bytes
--- localhost ping statistics ---
7 packets transmitted, 0 packets received, 100% packet loss
and:
stefano: stefano> ping 130.237.191.6
PING 130.237.191.6 (130.237.191.6): 56 data bytes
ping: sendto: No buffer space available
ping: wrote 130.237.191.6 64 chars, ret=-1
ping: sendto: No buffer space available
ping: wrote 130.237.191.6 64 chars, ret=-1
ping: sendto: No buffer space available
ping: wrote 130.237.191.6 64 chars, ret=-1
--- 130.237.191.6 ping statistics ---
3 packets transmitted, 0 packets received, 100% packet loss
on the other hand, I can telnet to and from other machines, and also reach
web sites. But connecting to my own httpd doesn't work. If I telnet from
and to my own machine I get similar things as from ping:
stefano: stefano> telnet localhost
Trying 127.0.0.1...
telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: No route to host
stefano: stefano> telnet 130.237.191.6
Trying 130.237.191.6...
telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: No buffer space available
I have never seen these problems before... can anyone help me?
Thanks,
Stefano
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From: "J Schieke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Wordperfect for Linux installation problem
Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 18:11:12 +0200
Reply-To: "J Schieke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
I installed WP8 for Linux on my RedHat 6.0 system. Wordperfect seems to be
working as it's name says : perfectly, but it altered my console terminal
characters. When working in a terminal window (not under X) the characters
in applications such as linuxconf and userconf are not the same as they
were. The characters used to draw the borders have changed from lines to
characters.
Someone told me to try and edit \etc\termcap, but this was to no avail as I
did not make head or tail of this file.
Any help will be appreciated.
Thanx.
Jaco Schieke
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From: "Rushuru" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake
Subject: Re: Need reasons for Mandrake over RH
Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 18:23:15 +0200
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a �crit dans le message :
7j4h9r$1f4$[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Okay, I need reasons to convince the other sysadmins to use Mandrake 6.0
> over RH for our servers, 1st and desktops, 2nd.
>
> I know that Mandrake is faster since it is completely compiled for the
> Pentium versus RH's kernel only (IMHO, this should be enough). I also
> know that Mandrake has newer rpm's for gnome, kde, and the kernel.
>
> My question is what other reasons can I give (or am I missing)?
If they like that plain and ugly wm called KDE, then they should go for the
Mandrake
But if they prefer Gnome, they should stick to RH6 (or Debian Potatoe)
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From: Aran Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Odd Tripwire 1.2 Problem
Date: Thu, 03 Jun 1999 15:50:48 +0000
James Seymour wrote:
>
> I'm trying to build and run tripwire-1.2 on a Red Hat 6.0 Sparc
> Linux box, but have run into the strangest problem: when running
> "make test" after the build, all of the "sha" signatures fail
> to match!
>
> I've built tripwire on quite a number of boxes, but have never
> encountered this before. I checked the patches that Red Hat
> uses to build what it calls "tripwire-1.2-3" but see nothing
> there that could affect this.
>
> Does this sound familiar to anybody?
>
> Regards,
> Jim
> --
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> | FAX: (248)615-2971
I have this problem under linuxppc-pre-R5 using kernel 2.2.9.
Actually, not only do the sha tests fail but it segfaults during
tripwire -initialize.
Where did you get the tripwire rpm for RH6? I poked around and didn't
see one. I did apply the patch that was a part of the rh5.2 tripwire
rpm.
Under a redhat5.2 install which I upgraded to kernel 2.2.6 tripwire also
segfaults during a run of update and dies during make test.
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From: Paul Hands <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.portable
Subject: Re: SuSE vs Red Hat?
Date: Thu, 03 Jun 1999 17:47:46 +0100
Keith Phillips wrote:
> Much agreement from me. I've used RH 4.1, 4.2, and 5.1. When 6.0 came
> out, I thought about it, then I thought about the price jump :-( I'd
> been thinking about using a different distro for a while, anyway, so
> I went with SuSE. Looked at Debian, but they didn't ship (or recommend)
> the 2.2.x kernel...
>
> Now, if SuSE would only add printer support to their shipped kernel... :-)
I initially thought the same about Suse 6.1, but reading the manual and the
info messages during install reveals that due to some copyright or licensing
issues, they ship a fairly old version of Ghostscript (5.1?) on the CDs. You
can download an RPM of the current (5.50) version from their web site, and it
supports my HP895cxi superbly. Now if I can just figure out why kppp no longer
gets a connection after upgrading from Suse 6.0 and KDE
1.0............................... :-(
Other than that, I think Suse is excellent.
Paul
>
>
> On Mon, 31 May 1999 02:18:40 GMT, p <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> spoke unto us, saying:
> > I must agree with the this point of view. I have tryed Redhat 5.2 and
> >results were OK. Recently installing Suse Linux 6.1 on my laptop has
> >made me a believer. I actually installed it on my laptop after 2
> >attempts.
> >
> >Redhat has sold out. Suse is were its at.
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------
> | Keith Phillips User: "Um, I can't find my files..." |
> | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Admin: "Files? What files?" |
> ---------------------------------------------------------------
Paul Hands
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup.misc
Subject: CRW4416 crashes my system .. a little help please
Date: Thu, 03 Jun 1999 15:56:44 GMT
hi there
i had to disconnect my YAMAHA crw4416s scsi cdrw to even get Suse
1.6 to install, Suse is up and running fine but i would like to get
the cdrw workng any ideas?
everthing goes fine on boot the adaptec 2940 is there but then it
crashes with errors like
SCSi bus being reset for host 0 channel 0
unable to handle kernel null pointer
yadda yadda
yadda yadda
Aiiiieee!! killing interupt handler
kernel panic: attempted to kill the idle task! in swapper task - not
syncing
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From: K Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Is This Illegal?
Date: 3 Jun 1999 03:42:42 GMT
Carl Fink <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: On 2 Jun 1999 21:23:53 GMT K Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: >
: >Just so my post was not misconstrued as I am intending, although I could
: >see how it may have been, to burn distro CDs to distribute for profit, I
: >refer to you the links below:
: Just so you know: several companies are already doing this, and
: you'll have a hard time competing with prices like LSL's or
: Cheap*Bytes's, which range as low as $1/disk.
I guess you never checked out the links I provided. That's fine.
Steve
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