Linux-Misc Digest #666, Volume #19 Wed, 31 Mar 99 03:13:10 EST
Contents:
Re: postgreSQL or MySQL for Webserver? (Allen O'Neill)
Re: Closing Dell Latitude Cover Crashes Linux (Allen O'Neill)
Re: multi session cd's ("Peter Caffin")
Re: g77 anyone? (Scott Lanning)
Re: waiting on mandrake 5.3 ("Martin R. Soderstrom")
startx monitor shutdown ("Mark Buckland")
Re: Help with LILO (Sydney Weidman)
Re: Why Linux still isn't my standard boot-up OS, or what are the Linux-equivalents
for these Windoze programs? (Todd Knarr)
Re: a.out ("Peter Caffin")
Two Simple Netscape Questions ("William T. Trotter")
dump command and HP DAT drive (Paul Phillips)
Re: Typing accented characters in Linux? (Le physicien nocturne)
Re: Web page logins automated? (oak)
Re: Idea: Make a seperate "i686" tree for Redhat Linux 6.0 (Enkidu)
Re: keyboard problem (Le physicien nocturne)
Re: Using Linux instead of NT Server in home environment.... (Paul Anderson)
Re: startx monitor shutdown (Paul Anderson)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Allen O'Neill)
Subject: Re: postgreSQL or MySQL for Webserver?
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 06:53:08 +0100
For those not aware, Interbase has been available for Linux for some time
now and it is superb .. www.interbase.com
They have version 4 (I think) as a freeware download - full
functionality.
- Allen.
>
> I have played around a little bit with both of them just to get a bit
> accustomed to databases and SQL. for this purpose of mine MySQL was
> the better choice: There was all of SQL implemented that I needed and
> it took considerably less disk-space and main memory (when running)
> than postgress.
>
> I know both of them offer an interface to the WWW so you must check
> what you want to do and then either check which of the two databases
> fits your needs better or give the information to someone else (like
> this NG) to let them make some suggestions to you. (Of course you may
> combine both sollutions.)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Allen O'Neill)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Closing Dell Latitude Cover Crashes Linux
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 06:53:10 +0100
James,
this is most likely due to the little "nipple" just under the screen
being initiated when you close the lid - this is a small switch that trys
to put the machine into standard SLEEP mode.
My solution on a similar machine? ... Get a big snippers and cut out the
nipple !! (Ouch!)
- Allen.
> James Seymour ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> : I'm just installing RH5.1 Linux (w/kernel 2.0.36) on a Dell Latitude
> : XPiCD (166MHz). If Linux is running and I close, then re-open the
> : lid, things crash. For example: if snmpd is running, it will crash.
> : If snmpd isn't running and I try to do a "shutdown -r now", init
> : crashes. In both cases, the first diagnostic lines says "divide error:
> : 0000".
> :
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From: "Peter Caffin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: multi session cd's
Date: 31 Mar 1999 05:14:17 GMT
John Main <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Can anyone tell me if linux supports multisession cd's.
> i have burned redhat 5.2 and slackware 4.0 and would like to know if
> linux will be able to see the second session.
Yes, provided your CDROM hardware can see them.
Type `cat /proc/filesystems` and check for iso9660 (standard CDROM
format) to make sure your kernel supports it. Just about all pre-made
kernels do, though.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Scott Lanning)
Subject: Re: g77 anyone?
Date: 31 Mar 1999 06:11:49 GMT
Mark Brown ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote regarding Fortran:
: IME it's a perfectly nice language for numerical programming.
Yeah, especially Fortran 90. The array manipulation functions
are kewl...
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From: "Martin R. Soderstrom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: waiting on mandrake 5.3
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 02:21:12 GMT
I downloaded the iso file and burned a CD. Installed it and everything
seems fine, but I've sort of decided not to use the KDE, so I probably would
have been better off just grabbing RH5.2.
One note about the iso file...whoever made it (at least the one available on
the Toronto FTP site) wasn't thinking too clearly. They didn't use the
enhanced iso mode, so all the filename extensions got clipped to 3
characters. The source/binaries/etc themselves seem fine, but all of the
help is html and had the extension .html which got chopped to just .htm. As
such, NONE of the internal links and jumps work. (a quick fix is copying the
help to your harddisk and renaming all the files...easy, but an annoyance).
Cheers,
-- Martin
Galo wrote in message <7drag6$pu6$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>anyone else...UPS is taking their sweet time
>
>
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From: "Mark Buckland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: startx monitor shutdown
Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1999 02:50:39 +0100
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x,linux.redhat.misc,linux.rehat.install,alt.os.linux
When I type startx my screen turns blank and then goes into power save mode.
I have just installed red hat and I have set all the video and monitor specs
to those in the manual. I have even made sure the refresh rates are okay in
the XF86Config file.
These newsgroups are my only hope to using linux, can somebody please help!
-Mark.
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From: Sydney Weidman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Help with LILO
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 06:16:33 GMT
You don't need to keep the kernel on the first cylinders of the disk.
Only the root partition needs to be within the 1024 cylinder limit. Your
kernel image can be loaded from almost anywhere by lilo. You should
repartition so that boot is directory on the root partition and then add
the line
image=/boot/vmlinuz
to the /etc/lilo.conf file, and rerun /sbin/lilo.
Hope this helps.
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From: Todd Knarr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Why Linux still isn't my standard boot-up OS, or what are the
Linux-equivalents for these Windoze programs?
Date: 30 Mar 1999 02:16:10 GMT
Harry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It also has a lot of features that RPM doesn't have, such as "self
> healing" - if an app launches and a dll or other file is missing or
> corrupt, and the ability to have software install "on first use",
> meaning that the first time you want to use a particular feature,
> the software to implement it comes down from the server.
Which runs into two problems:
1. This auto-installation of DLLs and such is the #1 cause of problems
in Windows installations ( eg. existing software requires version 1.7
of a DLL, new app requires version 1.9 which is incompatible with 1.7,
version 1.9 overwrites 1.7 making new app work but breaking everything
else beyond repair ).
2. Assuming we ignore #1, the next problem is the "permission denied"
error when the system utterly refuses to allow an ordinary user to
overwrite system libraries.
--
All I want out of the Universe is 10 minutes with the source code and
a quick recompile.
-- unknown
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From: "Peter Caffin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: a.out
Date: 31 Mar 1999 05:21:46 GMT
In comp.os.linux.misc NewsMan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Tommy Willoughby wrote:
>> > Also how do I invoke the fortune cookies I can not find them on my system
>> > !(/usr/bin)
>>
>> I've no idea - I use Debian.
Shush, you.
The RedHat people will use this as a slogan if you let them ;).
Check fortune-mod and the fortunes datafiles packages (there are a number
of them).
> try /usr/games/fortune
> If it's not there
> whereis fortune
> locate fortune
> Or maybe you don't have it.
Non-Debian systems often include this in a package called BSD Games.
Hope that gives you a little more to go on.
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From: "William T. Trotter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Two Simple Netscape Questions
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 02:56:26 GMT
I am running Netscape 4.08 and have two
simple questions.
1. In the "preferences" menu, I ticked
the box which says that listing should be
by last name, but it refuses and lists them
by first name. What's up? If it matters,
the address book was imported from a "csv"
file.
2. There is a way to make netscape messenger
start-up in a prescribed location (window size
and coordinates), but I forgot
how to do this.
Help is appreciated.
Tom Trotter
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From: Paul Phillips <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: dump command and HP DAT drive
Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 20:21:12 -0600
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hello,
I'm trying to figure out the correct syntax for the sump command in
conjunction with my HP C1533A DDS-2 DAT tape drive.
I've looked of course at the man page and my Unix administration book
(and the few docs I have on the tape drive as I bought it used).
A command like:
dump 0usdf 394 1600 /dev/nst0 /usr
makes the system think it will need a whole bunch of DAT volumes for the
dump. Obviously I don't know the correct density for a DAT drive.
I tried:
dump 0Buf 8000000 /dev/nst0 /usr
and it seems to work.
Is that syntax OK?
Thanks
Paul Phillips
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From: Le physicien nocturne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Typing accented characters in Linux?
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 01:58:31 -0500
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Anton wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I've recently installed RH5.1 successfully, learnt a little shell stuff,
> played with a few window managers etc. I'm still quite a newbie though.
>
> I have a few questions about accented characters and code pages etc.
>
> For instance, I can get an e-acute by typing ALT-0233 in Windows or going
> thru character map if I don't know the code.
>
> How would I type this in Linux?
>
> Are the character sets specified globally in Linux, or is this part of the
> window manager config or current shell config?
>
> Will different window managers (or shells) use different methods? Or more
> extreme, will different X apps use different methods? If not, would KDE or
> Gnome make this more consistent? I have installed KDE 1.1, but I haven't
> spent much time in it yet.
>
> Any answers would be appreciated
>
> Thanks
> Anton
I had some success by tweaking my .Xmodmap file in slackware, it should work
also with
Red Hat. I also put this line in /etc/XF86Config
XkbDisable
I can use the keyboard as I would under DOS, but not every program work with
it, hadn't figured it out yet.
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; name=".Xmodmap"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Content-Disposition: inline; filename=".Xmodmap"
keycode 9 = Escape
keycode 10 = 1 exclam plusminus
keycode 11 = 2 quotedbl at
keycode 12 = 3 slash sterling
keycode 13 = 4 dollar cent
keycode 14 = 5 percent currency
keycode 15 = 6 question
keycode 16 = 7 ampersand brokenbar
keycode 17 = 8 asterisk twosuperior
keycode 18 = 9 parenleft threesuperior
keycode 19 = 0 parenright
keycode 20 = minus underscore
keycode 21 = equal plus
keycode 22 = BackSpace
keycode 23 = Tab
keycode 24 = q Q
keycode 25 = w W
keycode 26 = e E
keycode 27 = r R
keycode 28 = t T
keycode 29 = y Y
keycode 30 = u U
keycode 31 = i I
keycode 32 = o O
keycode 33 = p P
keycode 34 = dead_circumflex asciicircum bracketleft
keycode 35 = ccedilla dead_diaeresis bracketright
keycode 36 = Return
keycode 37 = Control_L
keycode 38 = a A
keycode 39 = s S
keycode 40 = d D
keycode 41 = f F
keycode 42 = g G
keycode 43 = h H
keycode 44 = j J
keycode 45 = k K
keycode 46 = l L
keycode 47 = semicolon colon asciitilde
keycode 48 = dead_grave grave braceleft
keycode 49 = numbersign bar
keycode 50 = Shift_L
keycode 51 = less greater braceright
keycode 52 = z Z
keycode 53 = x X
keycode 54 = c C
keycode 55 = v V
keycode 56 = b B
keycode 57 = n N
keycode 58 = m M mu
keycode 59 = comma apostrophe
keycode 60 = period
keycode 61 = eacute Eacute
keycode 62 = Shift_R
keycode 63 = KP_Multiply
keycode 64 = Alt_L Meta_L
keycode 65 = space
keycode 66 = Caps_Lock
keycode 67 = F1
keycode 68 = F2
keycode 69 = F3
keycode 70 = F4
keycode 71 = F5
keycode 72 = F6
keycode 73 = F7
keycode 74 = F8
keycode 75 = F9
keycode 76 = F10
keycode 77 = Num_Lock
keycode 78 = Multi_key
keycode 79 = KP_Home KP_7
keycode 80 = KP_Up KP_8
keycode 81 = KP_Prior KP_9
keycode 82 = KP_Subtract
keycode 83 = KP_Left KP_4
keycode 84 = NoSymbol KP_5
keycode 85 = KP_Right KP_6
keycode 86 = KP_Add
keycode 87 = KP_End KP_1
keycode 88 = KP_Down KP_2
keycode 89 = KP_Next KP_3
keycode 90 = KP_Insert KP_0
keycode 91 = KP_Delete KP_Decimal
keycode 94 = guillemotleft guillemotright
keycode 95 = F11
keycode 96 = F12
keycode 97 = Home
keycode 98 = Up
keycode 99 = Prior
keycode 100 = Left
keycode 102 = Right
keycode 103 = End
keycode 104 = Down
keycode 105 = Next
keycode 106 = Insert
keycode 107 = Delete
keycode 108 = KP_Enter
keycode 109 = Control_R
keycode 110 = Pause
keycode 112 = KP_Divide
keycode 113 = Alt_R
keycode 114 = Break
keycode 115 = Meta_L
keycode 116 = Meta_R
keycode 117 = Menu
clear Control
add Control = Control_L Control_R
remove mod1 = Alt_R
add mod3 = Alt_R
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From: oak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Web page logins automated?
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 07:23:06 GMT
Yes! Something like that.
-Tony
> Are you looking for something like:
> 'loginname:[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> This works for sites that bring up a box for login name and password
> before they can be accessed.
> Let me know if this is what you were looking for...
>>I'm looking to log into, say, a hotmail account without having to type
>>in my user name and password. At home I'm usually running lynx so
>>isn't there a way to tell my cursor to go to the "Login:" area of the
>>web page and input my username <enter> then proceed to the password
>><enter> and I'm logged on automatically? An expect script does the
>>same thing for me with a terminal connection to a shell account, but I
>>was wondering if I could do a similar thing with an open web
>>browser....perhaps some kind of Screen macro or something.
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From: Enkidu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
linux.redhat.misc,alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Idea: Make a seperate "i686" tree for Redhat Linux 6.0
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 19:22:09 +1200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Johan Kullstam wrote:
>
> Enkidu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > Bloatware. I suppose you'd go for it if someone were to meet you
> > at the door of the supermarket, sent you round to the exit, and
> > insisted that you take a trolley, packed the way that *they*
> > decide is best.
>
> no one makes you install these things.
>
No indeed, but lots of people do. Lots of people also install
Microsoft products too.
All RedHat does is pull together a consistent set of stuff so that
people don't have to do it themselves. That's good. But to suggest
that they actually add value apart from that is rubbish.
> there is a pristine source in the source rpm along with
> redhat's patches which are distinct diff files. you can still
> apply your own patches. you can remove the redhat patches.
>
Indeed you can, unless you are prepared to take the risk of losing
some feature in the process! You could, of course, look at the
diffs, look at your patch (which you may have got elsewhere), and
try to figure out what will fit and what you want and what will
really happen. Great fun, I'm sure.
> yes there are. no one makes you use redhat. if you do not
> care for redhat, do not use it. redhat does have actual
> problems. i challenge you to find them and not just make up
> random lies.
>
I'm sorry that I am nor a follower of the One True Red Hat
religion. I challenge you to point out where I lied. For what it
is worth, I've not had any problem with my copy of Redhat. It's
pretty neat so long as you don't mind being led by the nose.
Cliff
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From: Le physicien nocturne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: keyboard problem
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 1999 02:13:34 -0500
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Michel Getraide wrote:
> i install linux a few days ago . i have a french keyboard and Alt Gr key
> doesn't work so i can't write:# { @ [ ...
> thanks for help
Here is my .Xmodmap file, it works with many editors.
Modify your /etc/XF86Config file by enabling the line
XkbDisable
Put the .Xmodmap file in /root/ or other appropriate location
Mine in configured with a french canadian keyboard (qwerty layout), but it
should be easy to modify it for the azerty layout
Bonne chance!
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; name=".Xmodmap"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Content-Disposition: inline; filename=".Xmodmap"
keycode 9 = Escape
keycode 10 = 1 exclam plusminus
keycode 11 = 2 quotedbl at
keycode 12 = 3 slash sterling
keycode 13 = 4 dollar cent
keycode 14 = 5 percent currency
keycode 15 = 6 question
keycode 16 = 7 ampersand brokenbar
keycode 17 = 8 asterisk twosuperior
keycode 18 = 9 parenleft threesuperior
keycode 19 = 0 parenright
keycode 20 = minus underscore
keycode 21 = equal plus
keycode 22 = BackSpace
keycode 23 = Tab
keycode 24 = q Q
keycode 25 = w W
keycode 26 = e E
keycode 27 = r R
keycode 28 = t T
keycode 29 = y Y
keycode 30 = u U
keycode 31 = i I
keycode 32 = o O
keycode 33 = p P
keycode 34 = dead_circumflex asciicircum bracketleft
keycode 35 = ccedilla dead_diaeresis bracketright
keycode 36 = Return
keycode 37 = Control_L
keycode 38 = a A
keycode 39 = s S
keycode 40 = d D
keycode 41 = f F
keycode 42 = g G
keycode 43 = h H
keycode 44 = j J
keycode 45 = k K
keycode 46 = l L
keycode 47 = semicolon colon asciitilde
keycode 48 = dead_grave grave braceleft
keycode 49 = numbersign bar
keycode 50 = Shift_L
keycode 51 = less greater braceright
keycode 52 = z Z
keycode 53 = x X
keycode 54 = c C
keycode 55 = v V
keycode 56 = b B
keycode 57 = n N
keycode 58 = m M mu
keycode 59 = comma apostrophe
keycode 60 = period
keycode 61 = eacute Eacute
keycode 62 = Shift_R
keycode 63 = KP_Multiply
keycode 64 = Alt_L Meta_L
keycode 65 = space
keycode 66 = Caps_Lock
keycode 67 = F1
keycode 68 = F2
keycode 69 = F3
keycode 70 = F4
keycode 71 = F5
keycode 72 = F6
keycode 73 = F7
keycode 74 = F8
keycode 75 = F9
keycode 76 = F10
keycode 77 = Num_Lock
keycode 78 = Multi_key
keycode 79 = KP_Home KP_7
keycode 80 = KP_Up KP_8
keycode 81 = KP_Prior KP_9
keycode 82 = KP_Subtract
keycode 83 = KP_Left KP_4
keycode 84 = NoSymbol KP_5
keycode 85 = KP_Right KP_6
keycode 86 = KP_Add
keycode 87 = KP_End KP_1
keycode 88 = KP_Down KP_2
keycode 89 = KP_Next KP_3
keycode 90 = KP_Insert KP_0
keycode 91 = KP_Delete KP_Decimal
keycode 94 = guillemotleft guillemotright
keycode 95 = F11
keycode 96 = F12
keycode 97 = Home
keycode 98 = Up
keycode 99 = Prior
keycode 100 = Left
keycode 102 = Right
keycode 103 = End
keycode 104 = Down
keycode 105 = Next
keycode 106 = Insert
keycode 107 = Delete
keycode 108 = KP_Enter
keycode 109 = Control_R
keycode 110 = Pause
keycode 112 = KP_Divide
keycode 113 = Alt_R
keycode 114 = Break
keycode 115 = Meta_L
keycode 116 = Meta_R
keycode 117 = Menu
clear Control
add Control = Control_L Control_R
remove mod1 = Alt_R
add mod3 = Alt_R
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Anderson)
Crossposted-To:
microsoft.public.windowsnt.misc,microsoft.public.windowsnt.setup,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Using Linux instead of NT Server in home environment....
Date: 31 Mar 1999 01:25:05 -0500
"Alexander I. Butenko" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>Also cna you say that Unix SAMBA works as good with Windows clients as teh
>Native NT Server?
>
No, it works better. Tests performed by Ziff-Davis' Smart Reseller magazine
demonstrated that a Linux box running Samba consistantly outperformed a native
NT box.
>How about Macintosh clients?
>
Does NT support AppleTalk out of the box?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Anderson)
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: startx monitor shutdown
Date: 31 Mar 1999 01:30:39 -0500
"Mark Buckland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>Is this the end of my linux experience?
>
I don't see it used often, but whenever I have to configure X Windows, I use
XF86Setup, which comes with XFree86. Make sure you've installed the package
for the vga16 X server, run XF86Setup and it should bring up a graphical
display and autodetect your video card for you. Works great.
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