Linux-Misc Digest #666, Volume #23               Thu, 24 Feb 00 18:13:05 EST

Contents:
  Re: Linux Ultra66 IDE Contoller Support ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Mulitple Desktop access question ("J. Cunningham")
  Re: Ipchains for a newbie (Greg Goodrich)
  Re: linux+apache+PHP+MySQL (Greg Goodrich)
  Re: Caldera 2.3 kernel recompilation (Greg Goodrich)
  Re: How do I fix double login with RH6.1 (Greg Goodrich)
  Re: Monting Zip drive (Greg Goodrich)
  Re: Linux (Rich)
  Re: Fax viewer for linux? (Andreas Hinz)
  Re: connect winNT database to UNIXserver (Greg Goodrich)
  compatability with Linux oss (Graywolff)
  Re: Yard's Disk sets respawing too fast on agetty problem (Ron Gibson)
  Re: How to write RPM package? (Greg Goodrich)
  Logging Messages from ipchains ("Dominik Slusarczyk")
  Re: compile problems with olderversion glibc-2 (Juergen Heinzl)
  Re: compatability with Linux oss (Juergen Heinzl)
  Fetchmail wont work with smail (Matthew Miller)
  'cut' command (Christopher Michael Collins)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Linux Ultra66 IDE Contoller Support
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 21:56:19 GMT

Promise has a beta driver for RedHat on their web site.  It's listed
for Ultra66 on their Driver's page.

-kurt

In article <38ac7302$0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  Greg Steele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Does anyone know if any of the current Linux distributions support the
> Promise Technology Ultra66 IDE controller?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Greg
>


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Before you buy.

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From: "J. Cunningham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Mulitple Desktop access question
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 21:38:04 GMT

I recently installed Redhat 6.1 on one of my machines at home. I
installed it as a Gnome workstation but so it boots to a console
display. I have been playing with both Gnome and KDE apps. Each time I
switch I have to go modify a line in a text file and run startx. (I am
at work on an NT machine at the moment and don't recall the name of the
file).

There's a couple things I haven't been able to figure out that I am
hoping someone can help me with:

1) is there a way to simply launch either the KDE or Gnome Desktops
without setting up Linux so it automatically launches X? I'd prefer to
come up at the console and launch one or the other when I feel like it
rather than having to go the other way. 

2) If I have one of the desktop's running, is there a simple way to
switch to the other? Can I have both desktop's running at the same time
the way I can have multiple copies of the same desktop running at the
same time?

3) Is there a way to have different users set up so they launch their
preferred desktop automatically when they log in? And yet still retain
the ability to run apps associated with the other desktop? (My daughter
fell in love with a couple games associated with one and then the other
desktop environments and I have to keep switching it back and forth for
her which is a royal pain). 

Is my entire approach naive? If so, can anyone recommend a better one? 
The reason I'm sending this from work is that I didn't have a modem in
the home machine when I installed Linux. If I put my modem in now (a
U.S. Robotics Sportster), how do I go about getting Linux to recognize
that its there and install the device driver for it?  

Thank you.

Jeff Cunningham
(fix email address for personal replies)

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From: Greg Goodrich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Ipchains for a newbie
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 16:13:56 -0600

Well, I recommend a package called ipchains-firewall by Ian Hall-Beyer at
http://ipchains.nerdherd.org.  This is a good starting point.  You will
still have to use the HOWTO to get some stuff set up properly.  Mandrake
6.1 default distribution kernel seems to have everything needed for
masquerading builtin.  Other distros may also, but I'm not sure, so not
listing them.  If your distro doesn't, then you'll have to do some
reading as to which options to turn on and build into the kernel.  You
will also have to ensure that /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward file has a 1
in it, etc.  This should get you started.

cyric wrote:

> Does anyone know of a good, step by step, set up for ipchains?
> I am trying to set up NAT on my Linux box with my one static I.P. and
> have been told that ipchains is the best method. unfortunately all of
> the HOW-To pages are a bit over my head.
> Any help greatly appreciated

--
Greg Goodrich
Senior Software Engineer
MediNotes Corp.
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From: Greg Goodrich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: linux+apache+PHP+MySQL
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 16:18:41 -0600

You can browse your linux apache server from your win98 box, if that is what
you're asking.  You will have to make the two machines "aware" of each
other.  The quick and dirty way to do this is to ensure that both machines
have a static IP address, and then using your web browser on your win98
machine, simply type in the ip address of the linux machine into the URL in
your web browser.  More elegant ways include setting up the hosts file on
the win98 machine so that it can resolve the name of the linux machine, and
vice versa, or setting up dns on the linux machine for your lan.

ccm wrote:

> Hello, I am a newbie on Linux.
> My job required me to write PHP programs.
> So, I installed a Peer-To-Peer network at home.
> there is 2 computers, one installed Windows 98,
> and the other installed Linux.
> I already installed samba on Linux, and made my Win98 'talk' to Linux.
> And now, I am going to install Apache, PHP and MySQL on my linux system.
>
> I just wonder can I use the webserver on my Win98 machine?
> I means browsing the webpages on the linux-apache web server

--
Greg Goodrich
Senior Software Engineer
MediNotes Corp.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



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From: Greg Goodrich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Caldera 2.3 kernel recompilation
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 16:20:55 -0600

Hmmm, I've heard of others having trouble with this as well, but not sure
what the problem is.  I believe that if you install the kernel from the
"official" caldera rpm package, that it should have the same options set as
the default, but I'm not 100% sure that this is true.  You might try
searching their knowledgebase at www.calderasystems.com, as it sometimes
proves useful.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I want to recompile Caldera 2.3 kernel 2.2.10-9, but every time I do it
> my system becomes unbootable. Is there a way to find out what goes into
> the current kernel, so that I can start with those options? Also, how
> can I backup the current kernel and boot from it in case of improper
> recompilation (Caldera instructions do not work!)?
>
> Thank you in advance,
>
> Alex.
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.

--
Greg Goodrich
Senior Software Engineer
MediNotes Corp.
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From: Greg Goodrich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How do I fix double login with RH6.1
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 16:23:27 -0600

Maybe hidden character(s) are in either the login or password fields on
your graphical login, so that when you try to login, one or both of them
are interpreted as invalid.  This is just a guess.

"Beny Spensieri Jr." wrote:

> Recently, every time I log into RedHat6.1, I have to do it twice!
>
> After I boot up I am presented with the usual X-login screen.  I enter
> my username and passowrd and the screen goes black and then jumps back
> to the login screen.  When I re-enter my usernam and password, I am
> finally allowed to get into Linux.
>
> If I logout, I only need to login once.  It seems this double login
> problem only occurs on the first login after startup.
>
> Any ideas on how to fix this and what caused it?
>
> Thanks
> --
>      ___________               Beny
>    /   _______   \
>   /   /       \   |  King of the cranium,
>   \___\       /  /   Great one of the grey matter,
>             /  /     Magnificent one of the mind,
>           /  /       Baron of brain,
>          |__|           The one,
>           __                The only,       The Riddler
>          /  \
>          \__/  http://animation.acmecity.com/tapestry/271/index.html
>
> "I'm a humble person, really
>           I'm actually much greater than I think I am..."

--
Greg Goodrich
Senior Software Engineer
MediNotes Corp.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



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From: Greg Goodrich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: Monting Zip drive
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 16:27:07 -0600

I haven't mounted a zip in a while, but I remember that for some reason if
it was DOS formatted (fat filesystem) then for some reason you had to use
partition 4 instead of partition 1.  An example follows:

if an ext2 formatted zip is at location /dev/hdb then you'd use:
    mount -t ext2 /dev/hdb1 /zip
but for msdos formatted zips you had to do:
    mount -t msdos /dev/hdb4 /zip

to find out where your zip is location, use the dmesg command and look
through the output for a line that tells you something like ZIP 100 at
/dev/hdb

"Beny Spensieri Jr." wrote:

> Farooq Saeed wrote:
> >
> > Does any one know how to mount a zip drive?
> >
> > Farooq Saeed
>
> If its an internal Zip, you should be able to mount it as a hard drive.
> --
>      ___________               Beny
>    /   _______   \
>   /   /       \   |  King of the cranium,
>   \___\       /  /   Great one of the grey matter,
>             /  /     Magnificent one of the mind,
>           /  /       Baron of brain,
>          |__|           The one,
>           __                The only,       The Riddler
>          /  \
>          \__/  http://animation.acmecity.com/tapestry/271/index.html
>
> "I'm a humble person, really
>           I'm actually much greater than I think I am..."

--
Greg Goodrich
Senior Software Engineer
MediNotes Corp.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



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From: Rich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 22:30:16 GMT

Ed;

Thanks for the reply.  It is based on the debian format. The program came 
with the deluxe version of Corel Linux Called "Civilization call to Power".
When I try to install the cd-rom sees the cd but will not let me install.

I will try what you suggested and see what happens. 

Thanks

Ed Hurst wrote:
> 
> On Tue, 22 Feb 2000, Rich wrote:
> >Hi;
> >
> >I am trying to figure out how to load a new program in a linux 
enviroment.
> >I am new to using linux (corel version) and I am trying to install a 
> >program into linux but cannot get it to work.
> >I have tried automount, and searching manually for the install program 
but 
> >have had no luck using that either.
> >
> >What I need is a step by step instructions on how to install 
applications 
> >into Linux.
> >
> >
> >Thanks Rich
> 
> That depends on what form it takes.  I would assume that Corel, based on
> Debian, uses the .deb format for installation.  If that is what kind of 
file
> you have, you'll have to read the manual page on the "deb" command 
(type "man
> deb" I believe).  If it's an .rpm, you may have to convert it.  If it's 
a .tgz
> or something like that, you have to unzip the file.  In other words, 
what kind
> of software is it?  What form does is take?
> 
> Ed


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andreas Hinz)
Subject: Re: Fax viewer for linux?
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 22:32:54 GMT

On 24 Feb 2000 21:15:57 GMT, Hemant Shah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>Is there a way to associate a application helper for printing?
>Is there a plug-in available for netscape to view fax?
>
The easiest method is to convert the fax to "jpeg" (or "tiff" if
"netscape" can display that) before sending the email.

That should solve viewing in and printing from "netscape".

Take a look at "convert" from the "ImageMagick" package.

-- 
Med venlig hilsen / Best regards / Mit freundlichen Gr�ssen

Andreas Hinz

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From: Greg Goodrich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: connect winNT database to UNIXserver
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 16:32:13 -0600

Well, first off, I'd get rid of the access db, as it sucks, hehe.  But if
you insist on using it then you'll probably have to use ODBC to connect to
it.  Even then, you will have to use samba to be able to see the access db
through the network.  This is not really something that I would recommend
for many reasons, but may work.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Hallo friends,
> I have my (MS access)database on a windowsNT webserver,but I am working
> on UNIX-workstation with UNIX webserver.Now my Question is:"HOW CAN I
> MAKE A CONNECTION FROM UNIX-WEBSERVER TO WINDOWS-NT WEBSERVER SO THAT I
> CAN USE THE DATABASE FROM MY UNIX-WEBSERVER ???"
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.

--
Greg Goodrich
Senior Software Engineer
MediNotes Corp.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



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From: Graywolff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: compatability with Linux oss
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 22:30:06 GMT

I have recently installed Winlinux2000 and would like to know if all the 
other Linux's (red hat, corel, ect.) are compatable with each other?

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ron Gibson)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Yard's Disk sets respawing too fast on agetty problem
Date: 24 Feb 2000 22:34:30 GMT

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Frank Miles) stated with conviction:

> >agetty: respawning too fast

> >several times and finally quits.

> >This is with Slackware 4.0 kernel 2.2.14.

> >Hardware Intel 440BX chipset, PII-400, very vanilla.

> >Yes, I selected the right getty option in the setup files.

> >I'm stumped.  Any ideas?
 
> What version of yard are you using?  I dimly recall there were some 
> problems with an early version of yard and the 2.0 kernels, fixed in
> later versions of yard.

The latest 1.18.  But I had a bad sector on the disks I was using.  I
haven't tried it again after the error was seen with this version.  But
I've gotten this error every time over the last year when I decided I'd
give it another try.

I bit the bullet and spent all day building a rescue set from scratch
using the BOOTDISK-HOWTO.

Whoa, what a daunting task.  Took all day, but I got it done.  Sure am
glad I already was configured for ramdisk, initrd and the loopback
support.

But I got a text editor on it and except for not getting shutdown
working right it'll do.  Perhaps I can compare the agetty related files
and discover the problem. 

The goal is just to be able to use fdisk, e2fsck, lilo, and a text
editor to solve configuration changes on HD's.

Perhaps someone could tell me how to mount the root.gz using the
loopback devise that Yard creates and I could make changes.  Seems to me
that I tried that and had a problem and it wouldn't go.

The set I created is pretty primitive but there are no boot disks or
rescue sets that work correctly with my kernel (patched for ATA -66
support) and I get tired of opening the case in order to use a rescue
disk.

Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ICQ: 56576008
Home Page: http://home.netcom.com/~rgibson/index.htm


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From: Greg Goodrich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to write RPM package?
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 16:34:17 -0600

Well, redhat "invented" it, so I'd check their home page first.  A
co-worker of mine wrote a program called pkgbuild that is a graphical
tool to build RPM's, but I'm unsure as to whether he has yet finished
re-writing it for RPM 3

bentium wrote:

> How can tell me where I can find infomation about how to write on RPM
> package?

--
Greg Goodrich
Senior Software Engineer
MediNotes Corp.
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From: "Dominik Slusarczyk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Logging Messages from ipchains
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 17:35:47 -0500

I am able to get ipchains to log various events to /var/log/messages.

However, how can I configure it (or syslogd?) to put those events in a
separate logfile where I can easily find them?

I asked this on IRC and someone said they succeeded in this with iptables,
but I didn't quite catch their meaning and they signed off :)

If anyone can point me in the right direction, I'd appreciate it.

Dominik



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Juergen Heinzl)
Subject: Re: compile problems with olderversion glibc-2
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 22:47:09 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, William Beazley wrote:
>make  -C elf subdir_lib
>make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/local/tmp/glibc-2.1.1/elf'
>gcc   -nostdlib -nostartfiles -shared -o ld.so  \
>          librtld.os            \
>          -Wl,--version-script=../ld.so.map -Wl,-soname=ld-linux.so.2
>/usr/bin/ld: unable to find version dependency `GLIBC_2.1'
>collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
>make[1]: *** [ld.so] Error 1
>make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/tmp/glibc-2.1.1/elf'
>make: *** [elf/subdir_lib] Error 2
>[root@odin glibc-2.1.1]# 

Let�s start with the installation instructions say to use a
build directory but as it seems you tried to build in the
source tree.

If so do a rm -rf, unpack again, mkdir build, cd build,
../glibc-2.1.2/configure ...
or wait for 2.1.3 which might be released very soon.
[...]

Ta�,
Juergen

-- 
\ Real name     : J�rgen Heinzl                 \       no flames      /
 \ EMail Private : [EMAIL PROTECTED] \ send money instead /

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Juergen Heinzl)
Subject: Re: compatability with Linux oss
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 23:00:43 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Graywolff wrote:
>I have recently installed Winlinux2000 and would like to know if all the 
>other Linux's (red hat, corel, ect.) are compatable with each other?

They ought to be ... no, they are not. In most cases there should
be not too much trouble, but even with the same kernel and library
versions things can work on one but not the other system. Vendor
specific improvements, seen that, it�s a mess.

On the administration level, well, same story but you will find
your feet and so after some time no system should pose a problem.

Probably the most important thing, do not even try to learn each
and every command and configuration option but understand how
things work.

Have fun with your new system,
Juergen

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthew Miller)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,vatech.sys.linux
Subject: Fetchmail wont work with smail
Date: 24 Feb 2000 23:07:11 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hi everyone,

I'm having trouble getting fetchmail to work while using smail as 
the mta. I get the errors below when running fetchmail. The version
of smail that I'm using is 3.2.0.111 and my fetchmail version
is 5.1.2+NLS. I'm not certian where the problem is, though I
think is it is smail. Fetchmail worked when I had sendmail installed,
I switched to smail because I couldn't get From: address re-writing
to work.

I checked out the fetchmail faq, and took the suggestion to add the
-smtp_hello_verify option to the smail config. But, that made no
difference. Below is what fetchmail reports when ran:

cuthbert:~$ fetchmail -a 
11 messages for namille2 at mail.vt.edu (31145 octets).
reading message 1 of 11 (2279 octets) fetchmail: SMTP connect
to localhost failed 
fetchmail: SMTP transaction error while fetching from mail.vt.edu
fetchmail: Query status=10 
cuthbert:~$

This is a snippet of the smail log after running fetchmail:

02/24/2000 17:25:29: [13126] remote connection from localhost[127.0.0.1]
02/24/2000 17:25:29: [13126] remote EHLO: '' unsupported, from
localhost127.0.0.1[�,��].  02/24/2000 17:25:29: [13126] lost connection
unexpectedly from (localhost) [127.0.0.1].  02/24/2000 17:25:29: [13128]
remote connection from localhost[127.0.0.1] 02/24/2000 17:25:30: [13128]
remote HELO: rejected: invalid operand: 'localhost': from (localhost)
remote HELO: rejected: invalid operand: 'localhost': from (localhost)
source [127.0.0.1]: hostname must contain a '.'.  02/24/2000 17:25:30:
[13128] lost connection unexpectedly from (localhost) [127.0.0.1].

And this is my /etc/smail/config file:

visible_name=vt.edu
-domains
hostnames=localhost:cuthbert
+lock_by_name

smtp_hello_broken_allow=localhost:128.173.*
-smtp_hello_verify
-smtp_hello_verify_literal

max_load_ave=5
smtp_accept_max=20
smtp_accept_queue=10
rfc1413_query_timeout=15

require_configs
-second_config_file
-qualify_file
-retry_file
copying_file=/usr/doc/smail/copyright
max_message_size=10M

received_field="Received: ${if def:sender_host\
         {from $sender_host${if def:sender_host_addr\
         { (really [$sender_host_addr])}} }\
          else {${if def:sender_host_addr\
          {from [$sender_host_addr] }}}}\
         by $visible_name\n\t\
         ${if def:sender_program\
          {via $sender_program }}\
         ${if def:sender_proto\
          {with $sender_proto}\
          else {from stdin}}\
         ${if def:ident_sender\
          { (ident $ident_sender using $ident_method)}}\n\t\
         id <$message_id@$primary_name> (Debian Smail$version)\n\t\
         ${if def:input_addr\
          {for ${top:input_addr}}\
          else {for <unknown>}}\
         ; $spool_date "

I have successfully used smail (an older version) and fetchmail together
before. I really don't understand what is going wrong. Any ideas or pointers
are welcome.

Thanks, everyone!    Matthew

-- 
Those who will not reason, are bigots, those who cannot, are fools, and
those who dare not, are slaves. 
  - George Gordon Noel Byron (1788-1824), [Lord Byron]

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Subject: 'cut' command
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Michael Collins)
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 23:08:41 GMT

Hello,


        I just read the man page for 'cut', and I don't
really get it.  If a mail that I save has two charecters
in front:  eg,      

>>  example mail
>>  example second line

Can I use the cut coommand to snip out these first two
columns of a test file?


Something like:

cut -c 2 file.name

or

cut -b >> file.name   


Anyone use this command for a text file?

--Chris

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