Linux-Misc Digest #666, Volume #21 Sat, 4 Sep 99 05:13:10 EDT
Contents:
Re: EZ-BIOS and LILO ("John Wilcox")
Re: [Q] Editing large (~GB) files ? vi ? (William Park)
Re: LINUX AND COREL (Robert Komar)
Re: EZ-BIOS and LILO (Cameron L. Spitzer)
Re: Bash not running executables (Paul Kimoto)
Re: How to start POP3 server on RH6.0?? (Bo Berglund)
Re: LINUX AND COREL (Peter Samuelson)
Re: Simple Newbie Quest (Tobias Anderberg)
Re: installing C++ on a computer without (Michael Byron Baer)
Re: Best Linux Distro? / Best GUI? ("Ocyrus")
Re: Had it with RH6 ("Noah Roberts (jik-)")
Re: Netscape crashes on RH6.0 with javascript (Eric N. Ebert)
Re: Installation of CD-Writer on existing Redhat system ("Noah Roberts (jik-)")
Re: Amiga, QNX, Linux and Revolution (Armin Steinhoff)
I WANT TO DITCH WINDOZE BUT I CANT!!! (Azzy)
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From: "John Wilcox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: EZ-BIOS and LILO
Date: Sat, 4 Sep 1999 00:33:26 -0500
I have another problem that's similar in nature, it's a 10.1 GB HD with
EZ-Bios installed on it I have Windows 98 on
the first partition, with about 1.75 to 2 GB remaining,and I have been
wondering how to install Red Hat linux 6.0 without Repatitioning &
Reformating the whole HD?
John Wilcox
If CON is the Opposite of PRO
Woudn't that make CONgress the Opposite of PROgress?
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From: William Park <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Q] Editing large (~GB) files ? vi ?
Date: 4 Sep 1999 05:37:17 GMT
Andrei A. Dergatchev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
> Size of my calculations results' files approaching 1GB
> and it takes "vi" about 2 hours to make "5000000D"
> when I need it. My RAM is 640M and top reports
> that "vi" uses 500M, so I believe RAM isn't a problem.
> So why it's so loooooooong ? Is there any other
> more suitable for large files editing tool ?
> Rgds,
> Andrei
If you just want to delete lines, why not use 'awk', 'sed', or
'python'?
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From: Robert Komar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: LINUX AND COREL
Date: 4 Sep 1999 06:37:12 GMT
In comp.os.linux.misc Peter Samuelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: WordPerfect Office 2000 aka WP 9 etc (oooh, let's follow in Microsoft's
: naming conventions footsteps again, remember when real version numbers
: all but disappeared from 'doze software in favor of two-digit year
: numbers?) is apparently being ported as we speak. Corel has taken the
: strategy of helping develop winelib with the goal of being able to
: recompile rather than rewrite their own code.
Not only their own code. If Wine works well, then more Windows users
might be persuaded to leave behind their OS without abandoning their
applications. Corel apps by themselves may not persuade many people
people to move to Linux, but being able to use Windows apps within
Linux will probably attract more of them. I would guess that they
stand to gain more by offering Windows-like apps to a Windows-like
crowd of the recently converted rather than trying to market to the
"Linux-cause-its-free" crowd. With Linux presently being populated
mostly by propellor-heads that don't use productivity apps and
reactionaries that probably steal them if they use them, we are
probably the worst market imaginable for that kind of business to
cater to. However, creating a market by making Linux a friendlier
place for Windows-like application users with Wine is probably a
better strategy than rewriting the code to run on Linux and hoping
that we propellor-heads and reactionaries buy lots of copies.
And if their code happens to run flawlessly in that environment
while the others cough once in a while,...?
Cheers,
Rob Komar
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Cameron L. Spitzer)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: EZ-BIOS and LILO
Date: 4 Sep 1999 06:29:04 GMT
In article <oe2A3.1365$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, John Wilcox wrote:
> I have another problem that's similar in nature, it's a 10.1 GB HD with
>EZ-Bios installed on it I have Windows 98 on
>the first partition, with about 1.75 to 2 GB remaining,and I have been
>wondering how to install Red Hat linux 6.0 without Repatitioning &
>Reformating the whole HD?
First, run MS-Windows' FDISK and find out what Windows thinks the
disk "geometry" parameters are. That is, the numbers of
Cylinders, Heads, and Sectors per track.
Then look in your motherboard BIOS menus. With luck, it has the same CHS
numbers.
Get a Linux floppy such as Debian Rescue Disk, Red Hat Install Disk,
SuSE Install Disk, etc. Boot the EZ-Bios and use it to launch the
rescue disk up to the loader prompt, which comes up right away, and type
linux hda=12345,63,255
where the three numbers are the CHS numbers.
This will start Linux up with disk numbers that agree with the others.
The Install Disk will want to run an installation. Ignore it.
Type Alt-F2 to get the second console, and get a shell prompt.
Type
cfdisk
to get the Linux cool fdisk. If it isn't there, use the regular Linux fdisk.
Add the partitions you want. Do not try to change the MS-Windows partition
size or location with fdisk. (Use Partition Magic or FIPS for that.)
Write the partition table and reboot. Because you booted Linux Rescue
via EZ-Bios, the EZ-Bios, MS-Windows, and Linux will all agree on where
everything is.
Now run the Debian or Red Hat installation, and it will find the new
partitions and use them. Do not let the installation program install LILO.
Make a boot floppy and leave LILO until later.
If the boot floppy doesn't work, boot the rescue floppy and say
linux hda=12345,63,255 root=/dev/hda3
or whereever your root partition is.
When you get around to installing LILO, put a line in the lilo.conf file
append="hda=12345,63,255"
to inform the bootimage of the geometry.
EZ-BIOS is a pain in the ass, next time don't use it.
Cameron
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Kimoto)
Subject: Re: Bash not running executables
Date: 4 Sep 1999 02:09:31 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Scott Prince wrote:
> From the man pages... Bash looks for a command first, if not there it
> assumes that it's an executable and executes if the file has the
> permissions and exists in the path, and finally matches on the slashes
> and checks the file to see if it is executable.
What version's man page do you have? It looks for shell functions,
builtins, and then executables. (This at the beginning of the "COMMAND
EXECUTION" section.)
> For some reason I can no longer cd to a directory and just type the
> filename and have it execute. I have to do something like...
>
> 'perl /dir/script.pl'
>
> Have I missed something here or is my shell not behaving properly?
It is doing the right thing if you don't have "." in PATH.
Whether you should is debatable (for security reasons). If you do,
put it last.
--
Paul Kimoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bo Berglund)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: How to start POP3 server on RH6.0??
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 04 Sep 1999 07:09:30 GMT
Problem solved:
I did the following:
1) logged on to the system using Telnet and as root created a dir /rpm
2) chmod /rpm so it was writable for all
3) uncommented the pop3 line in /etc/inetd.conf
4) used my FTP client and uploaded the imap package to /rpm
5) in Telnet: rpm i /rpm/imap-4.5-3.i386.rpm
6) in Telnet: killall -HUP inetd
This fixed the problem and the POP3 server is now running fine.
/Bo
On Fri, 03 Sep 1999 23:26:57 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bo Berglund)
wrote:
>I have two systems, one RH5.2 and the other RH6.0.
>On the 5.2 box POP3 started right out of the installation and I have
>not fiddled anywhere to get it going.
>On my 6.0 system however the POP3 server did not start, whereas the
>SMTP service (sendmail) actually is running OK.
>I have read here about uncommenting the proper lines in the inetd.conf
>file and I have done so. But how do I start up the service after this?
>I have to do it from a Telnet login so please give me the exact
>command line syntax.
>
>TIA
>
>
>Bo Berglund
>Software developer in Sweden
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>PGP: My public key is available at the following locations:
>Idap://certserver.pgp.com
>http://pgpkeys.mit.edu:11371
Bo Berglund
Software developer in Sweden
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
PGP: My public key is available at the following locations:
Idap://certserver.pgp.com
http://pgpkeys.mit.edu:11371
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter Samuelson)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: LINUX AND COREL
Date: 4 Sep 1999 02:01:22 -0500
Reply-To: Peter Samuelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
[Robert Komar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>]
> Not only their own code. If Wine works well, then more Windows users
> might be persuaded to leave behind their OS without abandoning their
> applications. Corel apps by themselves may not persuade many people
> people to move to Linux, but being able to use Windows apps within
> Linux will probably attract more of them.
You're probably right; their upcoming distribution is engineered for
ease of use. But I get the feeling they decided to invest in wine
mostly for their own code. WordPerfect Office 2000 is huge. It is
closely tied to Win32, arguably even more closely tied than Microsoft
Office which has a Mac port. They might well have decided that getting
winelib to the point of being able to run WP Office 2000 (perhaps with
some source tweaks to their own code to help) would be easier than
porting all their own code.
I do appreciate the goodwill gesture of working with the Wine project
rather than forking off a private copy of winelib, which the BSD-ish
license would have allowed. I say goodwill because although it's
common sense, you can't always assume corporate types will see the
sense in it.
> And if their code happens to run flawlessly in that environment while
> the others cough once in a while,...?
Actually I would expect the reverse: operating system quality
notwithstanding, winelib still has a long ways to go to match the
stability of the reference implementation....
Or did you mean "the others" to be other winelib apps? In that case I
agree with you.
--
Peter Samuelson
<sampo.creighton.edu!psamuels>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tobias Anderberg)
Subject: Re: Simple Newbie Quest
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 20:29:14 +0200
>What's the easiest way to view the floppy's contents and then install the
>RPM?
mount -t <filsys> /dev/fd0 <mnt_point>
filsys could be ext2, msdos and so on. mnt_point could be
/mnt/floppy.
mount(8), rpm(8) for more information.
--
tobias
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Byron Baer)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: installing C++ on a computer without
Date: 4 Sep 1999 00:38:46 -0700
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Alex Flinsch wrote:
>Michael Byron Baer wrote:
>
>> However, RedHat 5.0, unlike 5.1 and up, has no such RPM. Here's what it
>> has got (alphabetically):
>>
>> libg++-2.7.2.8-6.i386.rpm 502 Kb Mon Nov 10 00:00:00 1997
>> libg++-devel-2.7.2.8-6.i386.rpm 938 Kb Mon Nov 10 00:00:00 1997
>
>Taking a wild stab at it, but I think you want to use
>libg++-2.7.2.8-6.i386.rpm and libg++-devel-2.7.2.8-6.i386.rpm
Thanks for the replies - I tried to install the rpm and now I'm getting a
really weird error:
[calbear]# rpm -Uvh ./libg++-2.7.2.8-6.i386.rpm
failed dependencies:
/sbin/ldconfig is needed by libg++-2.7.2.8-6
[calbear]# ls /*/*dconfi*
/sbin/ldconfig
[calbear]#
Huh? rpm is complaining about needing a file that exists? What's going
on here?
Michael
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From: "Ocyrus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.admin
Subject: Re: Best Linux Distro? / Best GUI?
Date: Sat, 4 Sep 1999 01:30:17 -0700
Why do you dislike RH 6 ? Seems very easy to use and install. I have never
had any problems with it. But im still quite new, so i dont know what the
limits of RH 6 have. I have tried Debian, Slackware, SuSE, and Caldera. I
always seem up back with RH.
I am interested to hear what you have to say.
--ocyrus
Tim Kelley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:7qmq6f$f9$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> TNC wrote:
> >
> > Here's a little flamebait for you all. What is the best distro and GUI
> > combo? By "best" let me explain. I'm a very experienced Linux
> > user/admin. I started back around 92 with slackware and am currently
> > using Redhat 5.0. I've heard many terrible things about RH6.0 and am
> > wary. What I want is a distro that installs smoothly, has a good GUI
> > (OK, this is also a question about Gnome/KDE) and has a binary package
> > installation system that checks dependencies, etc... I liked slackware
> > but after a while I gave it up b/c they use tarballs and make you
> > compile everything. As I understand it they still do. Opinions? -
> > please CC to my email as my newsserver is slow and flaky. Thanks.
>
> I've used just about all of them and I wound up liking debian the
> most after using it a lot (and initially not liking it at all).
> The install is quite a pain because it's interactive. I will say
> that everything is a little harder with Debian, even harder than
> slackware. That said Debian is a bit behind the other distros in
> WRT to packages; many are out of date, so you might have to
> download/compile a few things. I'm wondering myself why package
> maintainers can't update package within a certain release ...
> especially X. Keeping X up to date is pretty critical to keeping
> people using your distribution (yeah I'm aware of the problems
> that caused slink to have a old version of xfree). I also use
> debian for ethical reasons. I think debian will eventually
> outstrip the others as it gains developers.
>
> Debian with KDE 1.1.1 (there are debs available) is very very
> nice.
>
> RedHat 6 is terrible. RedHat 5.2 is pretty darn good. slackware
> 4.0 is really nice too. SuSE I hear is pretty good.
> --
> Tim Kelley
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> "If evolution is outlawed only outlaws will evolve"
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Subject: Re: Had it with RH6
From: "Noah Roberts (jik-)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 04 Sep 1999 01:20:13 -0700
Chris Campbell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Left to figure out are PGP for unix, and figuring out whether I want to use
> VMWare or WINE to run Agent for news. (I have to be able to do that, as I post
> a flood of binaries in an emu group every month or so, and all my scripting and
> such works with Agent.)
>
> I'm now a very happy camper.
You should give gpg a try. Emacs has a news client that is quite
powerful. You might want to give it a shot as having a native run
program is always better if it can do what you need.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Eric N. Ebert)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: Netscape crashes on RH6.0 with javascript
Date: Sat, 04 Sep 1999 08:16:49 GMT
Here's some more insight, and happened to be the way I fixed your
problem when I had it. Make sure you set the enviroment variable like
so:
csh, tcsh:
setenv MOZILLA_HOME=/path/to/install_directory
sh/bash/ksh:
export MOZILLA_HOME=/path/to/install_directory
realease notes:
http://home.netscape.com/eng/mozilla/4.6/relnotes/unix-4.6.html
~Eric
On Mon, 30 Aug 1999 15:37:40 -0700, Ganesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>Whenever I access any webpage with javascript, netscape
>crashes. Do I need to need any patch(either RH6.0 or JVM) ?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Ganesh
>
>
>
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Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: Installation of CD-Writer on existing Redhat system
From: "Noah Roberts (jik-)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 04 Sep 1999 01:22:03 -0700
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Villy Kruse) writes:
Yes, it is included in slackware, as is mkisofs and mkhybred...maybe
cdwrite as well. However, no cdrdao (its alpha so it figures) and
cdparanoia.
> In article <7qne9n$792$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> >One last bit of advice -- look into the excellent xcdroast package.
> >It is a front end to mkisofs, cdrecord, and a few other utilites and
> >makes mastering/copying/burning cd's very easy. Find it at freshmeat.net.
>
>
> Also you might find cdrecord and/or cdwrite on the redhat contrib site,
> and bitchpolitely ask redhat why cdrecord isn't included in the
> standard redhat distribution like it ise on for example SuSE and Caldera
> and I would be surprised if Slackware doesn't include it.
>
>
> --
> Villy
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From: Armin Steinhoff <Armin@Steinhoff_de>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.qnx,comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: Amiga, QNX, Linux and Revolution
Date: 4 Sep 1999 01:15:55 -0700
Hi Linus,
In article <7qp61e$73i$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
says...
>
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, John Birch <nospam> wrote:
>>
>>QNX does a number of things right that Linux does flat wrong (true
>>_uncrashable_ (almost) micro kernel, real time performance etc)
>
>Ehhh..
>
>Sure, teh QNX microkernel is pretty uncrashable. But have you ever asked
>yourself why? Maybe because it doesn't do all that much.
Correct ... but that is a well DESIGNED feature. The QNX micro kernel offers
only a restricted number of basic functions ... all other necessary functions
are provided by partner processes which are doing IPC mainly via the extrem fast
message passing. Important is that all of these partner (or service) processes
are running in their own protected address space. That means if one processes
will crash ... you will loose just the related services and not the whole
system :-). This concept is continued in a advanced manner with QNX/Neutrino.
>Put it in a general-purpose system, do some real work with it, open it
>up to people who aren't polite, and see what happens.
Since there are conceptual no differences between the service processes of the
OS and user level tasks (apart of privileges ..) QNX is 'open' in that sense.
>Not many people care that the microkernel hasn't crashed when everything else
>>has.
Lot of QNX users care about only to loose e.g. the service of a specific driver
and not the whole system :-)
>>I'm sure you're right, the problem for QNX is that few people know how
>>good it is because it is so expensive (aimed at a different market).
>
>It's good for that market. But think about that _really_ means for a
>moment. Don't make the mistake of extrapolating goodness in a very
>specialized market into goodness a more real-life and much less
>constrained market.
Uhmmm .. I'm tiered to talk about the topic QNX/marketing ...
Armin Steinhoff
http://www.steinhoff.de
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Azzy)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: I WANT TO DITCH WINDOZE BUT I CANT!!!
Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 13:02:17 -0500
I am getting ever-closer to that point of no-return where one completely
removes Windoze and goes 100% Linux. However, I need a little help. A
lot of the services and conveniences of Wintel has pretty much become
ingrained in my life, and I'm not sure what (if any) alternatives are
available yet in Linux. If you fine fellows could edumicate me on the
following, it would be most helpful:
1) Software. Certain applications are critical to my job and life. I
need to know if there are Linux versions or adequate replacements for
these in Linux--
* Quicken 98
* Cold Fusion Studio (aka Homesite.. the best HTML editor I have seen)
* Microsoft Outlook 2000 or Symantec ACT
* A good Java IDE (Visual Cafe Pro or VisualAge for Java are among my
favs)
* Visio Professional
* Adobe Illustrator
* Adobe Photoshop
2) A shared printer. I have several machines on my home network, all
Windoze, which share a central HP LaserJet 3100 printer over the network.
I need to know if it is possible, and how to do, for a Linux machine to
print to this printer which is served by Windows NT. Is this Samba
functionality? Would HP need to make a driver specific for Linux for it
to work?
And that's really it. If I can get suitable replacements for those above
programs, and resolve the printer issue, I would feel quite confident in
scrapping NT and going Linux all the way.
Thanks for your help,
-Azzy
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