Linux-Misc Digest #749, Volume #19 Mon, 5 Apr 99 12:13:09 EDT
Contents:
Re: Why Linux still isn't my standard boot-up OS, or what are the
Linux-equivalents for these Windoze programs? (Harry)
3com 3C574-TX Etherlink Transmit timed out (William Wong)
Re: Why Linux still isn't my standard boot-up OS, or what are the Linux-equivalents
for these Windoze programs? (Harry)
Re: StarOffice 5.0 Filter Update? (Bud Rogers)
Re: limiting su via time?? ("Dennis Friis")
Token Ring (Iztok Polanic)
Re: /tmp screws up printing if moved? ("David Z. Maze")
Re: (Q) Is there a pgp.rpm ? (Merell L. Matlock, Jr.)
Re: Large (1MB) writes (Dan Shechter)
Re: Why Linux still isn't my standard boot-up OS, or what are the (Christopher)
Re: Why Linux still isn't my standard boot-up OS, or what are the (TurboTex)
Re: backup hardware and Linux (HAC)
Re: VMWARE -- why isn't it the rage topic of discussion? (Bruce Stephens)
RH 5.2 and JDK1.2pre1 (Nonet Pasquali)
Re: VMWARE -- why isn't it the rage topic of discussion? (Charles H. Chapman)
Re: VMWARE -- why isn't it the rage topic of discussion? (Michael Perry)
Could not setup X-windows in Red Hat 5.2 (Baskar)
Playmidi problem (Tea Leaf)
Re: BUS error - Netscape (Jim Jowski)
Re: RPM Troubles... (Bob Tennent)
Re: Modems (where to buy) (Andrew Comech)
Re: VMWARE BEWARE (Charles H. Chapman)
Re: Proposal: "Linux 2000 Platform" (David T. Blake)
Re: BUS error - Netscape (Michael Perry)
Inaccessable boot device: HELP! (NT Error, Linuxes fault?) ("stuart")
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From: Harry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Why Linux still isn't my standard boot-up OS, or what are the
Linux-equivalents for these Windoze programs?
Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 06:06:19 -0400
> Nothing really beats a good text editor for hacking HTML. :-)
Shamefully, I have to admit to using a text editor (Vantage)
for hacking HTML on a Mac. But then, the HTML was for a
commercial newsletter and the Netscapes and Hotmetals of
this world keep advertising themselves in your HTML.
Harry
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Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 18:20:07 +0800
From: William Wong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup,alt.os.linux.slackware
Subject: 3com 3C574-TX Etherlink Transmit timed out
Hi there,
I heard that the driver is buggy, but it is ok when I used the default
slackware 3.6 kernel (2.0.35) .
Now I have recompiled with 2.0.36 and pcmcia-cs-3.0.8, normal light
traffic is ok, for instance, telnet, ping etc.
However, acting as a host and trying to retrieve data from this host,
error I got from the console is
kernel: eth0: Transmit timed out, Tx_status 00 status 2000 Tx FIFO room
4092.
It's ok for this card to receive heavy traffic also.
Any advice ?
Thks in advance.
/ww
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From: Harry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Why Linux still isn't my standard boot-up OS, or what are the
Linux-equivalents for these Windoze programs?
Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 06:18:01 -0400
> >> Is it unimaginative to expect they might just, well,
> >> move cursor to start and end of line, respectively?
>
> Harry> I think you've hit the nail on the head, but the
> Harry> answer is not a technical or historical one. The
> Harry> answer is "polymorphism". In programming,
> Harry> polymorphism means that
>
> Unfortunately, your comment has nothing to do with his
> comment. He didn't hit the nail on the head and you issued
> a non sequitur in response.
His comment was about the need for a common set of conventions
for the use of keys both in applications and across applica-
tions. I agreed and added that the commonality should be
extended so that different objects within the interface behave
in a predictable way when responding to user input, adding that
this is similar to polymorphism in object-oriented programming.
What exactly do you think doesn't follow from what?
Harry
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From: Bud Rogers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.slackware
Subject: Re: StarOffice 5.0 Filter Update?
Date: 05 Apr 1999 05:52:20 -0500
Jeffery Cann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Here's my question: Has anyone downloaded the new Star Office 5.0 Filter
> Update? Star Division claims that they have "greatly improved" import/export
> filters for MS Office documents. Before I waste more time on this (its a 70
> MB download), I wanted some feedback. If you have downloaded the filter
> update, has it improved?
Yes. Much. I haven't tried everything yet, but everything I have tried has
imported OK. I can finally load Powerpoint documents, which wouldn't load
at all before. And if you don't want to go through that huge download
again, you can get an update CD for US$14.95 from their website.
--
Bud Rogers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.sirinet.net/~budr/twocups.gif
Linux twocups 2.0.36 #5 Mon Mar 15 21:01:56 CST 1999 i586 unknown
5:48am up 20 days, 7:30, 4 users, load average: 0.14, 0.15, 0.16
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From: "Dennis Friis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,linux.admin.isp
Subject: Re: limiting su via time??
Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 13:22:14 +0200
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message <7e3f8f$7i4$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>Is ther a way to limit when a user(s) can use su??? Basicly there too many
>damn people at night (1am -4am) screwing up the system. So I want a time
>limit on when they can su..
>
It would be easy to add to the cron a little script that does that.
simply change attributes for su to -rx at night chmod a-rx /bin/su
when users run su they'll get 'permission denied' and when it's time
to let them use it again chmod a+rx /bin/su
just an idea..
good luck
pv
Linux: Proof of intelligent life on earth!
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From: Iztok Polanic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Token Ring
Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 11:12:16 GMT
Hello !!!
When I installed Token Ring driver I got this:
tr0: unreloverable error : error code = 0011
Is this happening because we haven't connect computer to Token Ring network
(we are doing this for our bussines partner)?
Bye.
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From: "David Z. Maze" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: /tmp screws up printing if moved?
Date: 05 Apr 1999 07:49:35 -0400
As noted before, you should deal with spam in a responsible fashion.
Return address corrected in citation.
oak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
oak> Strange that you have tmp in /var alot of programs default to /tmp
oak> Do you have a link to /var/tmp from /tmp?
No; I have a link from /tmp to a separate directory in /var. That way
my (32 MB) root partition doesn't fill up with temporary files while
my (300 MB) /var partition still has lots of space.
DZM> .... Unless you have truly gratuitous amounts of memory, putting
DZM> /tmp on a RAM drive is probably a waste; you're better off
DZM> putting /tmp on disk and using the memory for disk cache and
DZM> programs...
oak>
oak> The kernel cannot guess which files I don't need written to disk, only
oak> I can tell it not to write certain files to the hard drive by
oak> using a ram disk. tmp usually doesn't require that much
oak> space so I'm putting it all in ram. I have 64 megs of ram.
As other posts have noted, this is exactly the point of disk caching.
Also consider how big you'll need your RAM drive to be. Asking for 16
MB of temporary space these days isn't a whole lot, but it's
dedicating a quarter of your memory to space that only will be
required transiently.
--
David Maze [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://donut.mit.edu/dmaze/
"Hey, Doug, do you mind if I push the Emergency Booth Self-Destruct Button?"
"Oh, sure, Dave, whatever...you _do_ know what that does, right?"
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From: Merell L. Matlock, Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 12:05:43 GMT
Subject: Re: (Q) Is there a pgp.rpm ?
On 4/4/99, 2:38:15 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Timothy Murphy) wrote=20
regarding (Q) Is there a pgp.rpm ?:
> Could some kind soul tell me where to find an rpm for pgp (Pretty Good=
=20
Privacy)?
I don't think (could be wrong) that there are any rpm's for PGP. You=20
can get the sources and compile them yourself from:
http://www.pgpi.com
> Is there some reason why this is not on the RedHat CDs?
Yes. It's called export restrictions. To the US Gov., PGP is a=20
'munition'.
Since RedHat is a US company, they have to abide by the law.
Good luck.
Merell
--=20
Merell L. Matlock, Jr. When crypto is outlawed, only outlaws
PGP KeyID: 4DF73441 and politicians will have crypto.=20
Linux =3D Free (From M$) at last!
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Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 02:14:47 +0200
From: Dan Shechter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Large (1MB) writes
Norm Dresner wrote:
>
> Michael Nolan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in article
> <7cjeo2$6eo$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> > Are there any drivers to do large (1MB) tape read and write? The limit
> > in 2.0.xx was ~64k, but if we can't do at least 1MB, we're stuck with
> > Solaris.
> >
> Why not modify the original or write your own; that is, after all, one of
> the most important things about Open Source, n'est pas?
>
> Norm
I'm not too sure about this, but if I remember correctly it all comes
down to the buffer on your tapes hardware, which, is usually <1MB at any
rate, isn't it?
Shechter.
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From: Christopher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.help,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: Why Linux still isn't my standard boot-up OS, or what are the
Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 08:06:33 -0500
I hold the shift key while I'm highlighting text and when I'm pasting. I move text
back and forth between
netscape and other apps. Doesn't seem to be a problem. (slak3.4-2.0.35)
Chris
Michael Powe wrote:
>
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> >>>>> "Jeremiah" == Jeremiah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> Jeremiah> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Michael Powe
> Jeremiah> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> spake thusly:
>
> >>> ? Sure you can... I do it all the time... select the
> >>> section with the left button, paste with the middle button.
> >> However, this is a fix. I can't do it on my slackware box & I
> >> couldn't do it on my Really Horrible box, either.
>
> Jeremiah> I could do it out of the box on my RH5.2 setup, and I
> Jeremiah> could do it on my ancient Slackware (kernel 1.2.13
> Jeremiah> setup).
>
> So? I couldn't do it on RH 4.2 or 5.1 and I can't do it on Slack
> 3.5. I know I probably could if I wanted to screw around with
> the netscrape-app file, but I don't right now. I have too many other
> irons burning. Also, I dislike netscrape so much I don't even like to
> think about working on it.
>
> mp
>
> powered by GNU/linux since Sept 1997
> - --
> Michael Powe Portland, Oregon USA
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.trollope.org
> "Would John the Baptist have lost his head if his name was Steve?"
>
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From: TurboTex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.help,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: Why Linux still isn't my standard boot-up OS, or what are the
Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 07:51:14 -0500
TurboLinux is easier to install than DOZE.
illing to
> help newbies. Can anyone point me to a distribution which virtually installs
> itself (with minimal problems)? I'd really like to do more than play
> Backgammon.
> I have a Trident 9750 AGP video card, soundblaster16, and a God-only-knows-
> what-kinda modem (but MS didn't choke on it... and I'm willing to replace it
--
M.H. Collins < LINUX: The Official OS >
http://www.linuxlink.com < for the New Millennium >
TurboLinux has a better idea! Fear the Penguin.
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From: HAC <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: backup hardware and Linux
Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 13:29:26 GMT
Michael Meissner wrote:
>
> Matthew Hixson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > I was wondering what sort of backup hardware people are using with
> > Linux. I am looking for some sort of a tape backup device, preferably
> > SCSI. I will be needing to backup about 60GB of data on a weekly
> > basis. Any thoughts on this? I am also considering going with the Jaz
> > drive since it would be much faster to pull backups off of there if I'm
> > looking for something in particular.
>
> I've used the various DAT DDS drives (DDS-1, DDS-DC, DDS-2, and just upgraded
> to DDS-3). My DDS-2 drive was a WangDAT 3800, and it seemed to be flakey with
> Linux if I specified hardware compression and block sizes > 8k. My new DDS-3
> is an HP and I haven't stressed it too much at this point. DDS-3 will hold 12
> gig uncompressed and 24 gig compressed per tape, and costs ~ $1000 for the
> drive, and media is in the low $20's. You can get autoloader drives as well
> that allow for larger unattended dumps.
>
One "gotcha" is that the default SCSI tape buffer size is 32K for the
2.0.x kernels. I've had to edit st_options.h and increase
ST_BUFFER_BLOCKS to 64 in order to use the Sun default 63K block size
for my Exabyte 8mm drive. I don't know if this has changed in the 2.2.x
tree; it probably should.
--
Howard Christeller Irvine, CA [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Bruce Stephens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: VMWARE -- why isn't it the rage topic of discussion?
Date: 05 Apr 1999 01:04:44 +0100
Pas Moi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> elementary. a lot of people run linux because they don't care about
> quicken, orifice97, or solitaire. vmware? yawn...
In any case, GNOME's solitaire is *far* better than the one you get
with Windows.
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From: Nonet Pasquali <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RH 5.2 and JDK1.2pre1
Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 09:53:45 -0500
Hi,
Any advice on running blackdown's JDK1.2pre1 on RH 5.2,
where user does not have root?
Thanks,
Nonet Pasquali
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Charles H. Chapman)
Subject: Re: VMWARE -- why isn't it the rage topic of discussion?
Date: 5 Apr 1999 13:09:26 GMT
On Sun, 04 Apr 1999 21:40:12 GMT, Pas Moi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> "f" == fishbowl wrote on 1 Apr 1999 11:16:08 -0600:
>
>f> I'm quite surprised that VMWARE (www.vmware.com) isn't being
>f> discussed much. I've been waiting years for just such a thing. I
>f> can now run windows98 under linux, and run quicken, office97,
>f> solitaire :-), or anything else I want (except directx
>f> games...yet), without rebooting.
>
>elementary. a lot of people run linux because they don't care about
>quicken, orifice97, or solitaire. vmware? yawn...
>
OTOH, a -lot- of people are -forced- to run Windows at work to be
able to interface with the rest of the people in the office and
VMWare is a wonderful solution for those of us who want to run
Linux as their primary operating system.
Chuck
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Perry)
Subject: Re: VMWARE -- why isn't it the rage topic of discussion?
Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 13:36:09 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Mon, 05 Apr 1999 13:14:57 +1200, Enkidu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Pas Moi wrote:
>>
>> elementary. a lot of people run linux because they don't care
>> about quicken, orifice97, or solitaire. vmware? yawn...
>>
>Yeah, but what about running slackware, redhat, debian and others
>*all at the same time!* on one machine!
>
>Cliff
I dont have the yawns about vmware. Running SuSE 6 and nothing else, I was
finally able to synch my windowsce device (VELO 500) and get a whole bunch
of stuff of it that had been accumulating. I installed win98 as a guest
system to only use it for synching with my velo and it works like a charm.
I did have to enable a serial port in vmware but after that, voila. I also
had some issues sharing files and went ahead and installed the dreaded word
and excel97 viruses.
Just a few words about vmware here. VMware is resource hungry so watch the
specs of the machine you install it on. I am running it on a Dell Inspiron
7000 Laptop with PII 366mhz, 128mb of mem, 8mb AGP card. Its not a screamer
but it does do what I need. I use vmware with full networking or bridged to
our linux network at work. Be sure to see those questions when installing.
Finallly, get the vmware tools stuff to get a better video resolution. They
are small and will fit on a floppy diskette.
We all do use linux and I use it only. This allows me the flexibility of
not booting a multi-boot system for a relatively few things I need a windows
product to do.
--
Michael Perry
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Baskar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Could not setup X-windows in Red Hat 5.2
Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 13:27:17 GMT
The VGA chipset in my system is in-built in motherboard, in Xconfigurator
I tried the VGA Card with PC-Chipsets Motherboard. But it didn't work
properly and I could not properly install X-windows.
any idea of how to do this.
Baskar.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tea Leaf)
Subject: Playmidi problem
Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 14:39:56 GMT
Hi,
Just installed RedHat 5.2 and upgraded kernel to 2.2.2
I successfully ran sndconfig and heard Linus's voice!
My soundcard is SB64 AWE Gold
But when i run playmidi i get error "no playback device found"
(this may not be 100% word for word - i'm in Windows now)
Any advice on this one.
tia,
Darrell.
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Crossposted-To: comp.unix.questions
Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 06:25:15 -0700
From: Jim Jowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: BUS error - Netscape
I had a similar problem about 8 months ago and it turned out to be a
motherboard that wasn't certified to run at 75 mHz with a Cyrix CPU.
The CPU was fine, but since the motherboard was a touch old for a
MMX-type CPU; the bus errors showed up until I went back to 66 mHz.
On 4 Apr 1999, Ken Pizzini wrote:
> On 4 Apr 1999 08:41:48 +0700, Ilya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >I was running Netscape when it suddenly crashed! I got this message:
> >
> >root@republic-p4-~>
> >[1] + bus error netscape
>
> Netcape is buggy. This particular crash was probably caused
> by its attempting to do an unaligned read of RAM.
>
>
> >Also, a few days ago, my Linux machine completely froze. /var/log/messages
> >didn't show anything... Any ideas what could have caused that?
>
> Anything from a stray cosmic ray bumping your CPU into a locked
> state to a bug in the particular rev of kernel you were using.
> It is a bit of a detective game of gathering lots of clues and
> deciding which are relevant and piecing together a likely
> scenario of what went wrong. For the more obvious cases you
> might have luck in asking in Usenet newsgroups to ascertain
> what went wrong, but for the more obscure cases you pretty
> much need to have an experienced sysadmin on-site to stand a
> chance of figuring out what went wrong (and even then, sometimes
> the answer is just "gremlins").
>
> --Ken Pizzini
>
>
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From: r d t@c s.q u e e n s u.c a (Bob Tennent)
Subject: Re: RPM Troubles...
Date: 5 Apr 1999 11:33:34 GMT
On 5 Apr 1999 03:45:24 GMT, DMDx86 wrote:
> Recently I have installed an RPM package, but after I decided I did not
>like the
>package, I attempted to de install it with Glint. It claimed that the package
>was not
>installed! A query and a verify reported that it was indeed properly installed
You install packages using rpm -i <rpm-filename> but you un-install
using rpm -e <rpm-packagename>. For example,
rpm -i freetype-1.2-2.i386.rpm
but
rpm -e freetype
or
rpm -e freetype-1.2-2
Bob T.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrew Comech)
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.misc,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Modems (where to buy)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 5 Apr 1999 10:15:08 -0500
On 04 Apr 1999 19:18:05 PDT, The Grunewalds wrote:
>Douge,
>The easiest way to get a Linux compatible modem is to get an external modem.
>After that, get an ISA bus modem. PCI bus modems are sometimes plug and play
>or are winmodems (or both?).
This is kind of misinforming...
You have to avoid
1. all PCI modems (things may change soon),
2. external modems with USB (other external modems will
work, but do not bump into certain older modems with RPI).
As to ISA modems, these could be Plug-and-Play (which is not
fatal, although will take more time to set up) and winmodems
or controlloerless modems or softmodems or ...
>> Could someone direct to a list of compatible modems, preferably
>> internal, that I'm likely to find at my local Best Buy or CompUSA
The list of _vendors_ who sell Linux-compatible internal modems
is at
http://www.math.sunysb.edu/~comech/tools/CheapBox.html#modem
Expect to pay below $50 for everything and wait about a week until
it arrives.
Cheese,
Andrew
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Charles H. Chapman)
Subject: Re: VMWARE BEWARE
Date: 5 Apr 1999 13:25:21 GMT
On Mon, 05 Apr 1999 03:43:38 GMT, Alan Fried <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>Thanks for the reply, I was just on the web site and it seems that it's
>only designed to work with Windows NT and there are no plans for 95 or
>98 in the immediate future.
>
>I am hoping that I misread this and perhaps they were talking about
>making this virtual software for Windows 95 and Windows 98,
You misunderstood what they were telling you. You can run Windows 95, 98
and NT and a variety of other operating systems as -guest- operating
systems with Linux as the host operating system -right now-. The
only -host- operating system avaiable now is Linux (and possibly NT -- not
sure if they released the beta for NT yet).
Chuck
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David T. Blake)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: Proposal: "Linux 2000 Platform"
Date: 05 Apr 1999 07:57:19 -0700
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter Samuelson) writes:
>My point being that third-party software should have *no* difficulty
>interacting with various flavors of Linux, as long as it is
>reasonably self-contained. If it wants to modify boot scripts or
>replace system library versions -- I don't think *I* want to trust
>its install scripts on my box anyway.
These points are reiterated if you actually look at a significant
third party software installation. Matlab, for example, installs all
its own libraries - including libc, libm, libXpm, libstdc++, and
libg++. It installs its own version of gs too. At run time you call a
script that loads the Matlab specific libraries before calling Matlab.
I wonder about this tradeoff. Matlab will work with 100% efficacy on
any system since you cannot screw with its libraries when you update
system libraries. But also, it uses libc5 (libc5.4.38) and doesn't
benefit from shared libraries - wasting both my disk space and my
RAM. It seems they could have had a startup script that instead of
loading custom libraries, does a check using nm, and /etc/ld.so.conf,
to make certain it is compatible with the system libraries for things
it uses like libc and gs.
Geez, if every new app needed its own copy of gs and xlib what a pain
it would be.
--
Dave Blake
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Perry)
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.questions
Subject: Re: BUS error - Netscape
Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 13:27:03 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Mon, 05 Apr 1999 04:40:19 +0000, Tim Lines <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In my experience (7 years) EVERY system hang under Linux I've ever experienced
>has been due to misconfigured/defective hardware. Netscape is more difficult
>to diagnose but I've had good luck with 4.08.
>
>I suspect that you have timing problems between RAM and the CPU. You wouldn't
>be overclocking a little, would you?
>
>
>Ilya wrote:
>
>> I was running Netscape when it suddenly crashed! I got this message:
>>
>> root@republic-p4-~>
>> [1] + bus error netscape
>>
>> Any ideas?
>>
>> Also, a few days ago, my Linux machine completely froze. /var/log/messages
>> didn't show anything... Any ideas what could have caused that?
>>
>> Linux 2.2.1
>> root@republic-p4-~> netscape -v
>> Netscape 4.08/Export, 02-Nov-98; (c) 1995-1998 Netscape Communications Corp.
>
What I have seen on two separate systems; one P166 80mb and one Dell
Inspiron 7000 PII 366mhz, 128mb of mem, etc. I always get bus errors in
netscape when I click on mailto:s but if I open the mail program first I
dont. This is non-existant on Netscape Navigator 3.04. I get rock solid
performance there.
--
Michael Perry
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "stuart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.setup,microsoft.public.windowsnt,microsoft.public.windowsnt.misc,microsoft.public.windowsnt.setup,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Inaccessable boot device: HELP! (NT Error, Linuxes fault?)
Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 08:47:59 -0700
System Configuration
IBM 10.1 GB IDE HD
Paritiion 1: 2047 (ntfs)
Partition 2: 4095 (ntfs)
Partition 3: Linux Swap (127MB)
Partition 4: Linux Native (2047 minus 127MB)
1) The NT partitions both existsed prior to the Linux install and booted
from partition 1 (only) with no problem. After installing Linux (and it
boots fine with lilo), now NT gives me an error "Inaccessable boot device".
Now obviously nothing is wrong with the "boot device" (the IBM HD) if Linux
boots. What happened, why I am out to lunch with NT?
2) There was 3.5GB of space left on the drive, when I installed Linux it
only allowed me to partition a Swap and native parition no greater than
2047MB in total. Why? Why didnt linux see the rest of the HD?
The data is not lost (I have backups), but, I want to know what caused this
and why it happened. I also have another HD around here it happened to,
which there is no backup too (it happened about 6 months ago we got this
error). At the time I thought the drive crapped out. But, now I can see that
maybe it did not. I would like to know if I can restore the other drive as
well? The other drive was a SCSI drive, 4GB which had the entire drive
dedicated to NT (a full partitioning of it), and we have no recovery disk
for that drive.
Can we make one somehow? Will it help?
My provider does not spool mail veyr long at all! So, if you could be kind
enough to email me, I will summerize and repost it.
PS - I had a similiar failure (invalid boot device) on another hard drive
recently too.
thanks,
stuart
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Beverly Hills, California
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