Linux-Misc Digest #749, Volume #20               Wed, 23 Jun 99 03:13:13 EDT

Contents:
  Re: A REALLY Dumb Question (Cameron L. Spitzer)
  Re: "LI" Fixed!  Magic Number now.. (John Girash)
  Re: Linux News Server ("Michael Faurot")
  A REALLY Dumb Question ("Jeremy Henderson")
  Re: FSCK and FS check forced.... (Frederic L. W. Meunier)
  Re: help: ipfwadm: setsockopt failed: Protocol not availableerror (Peter Buelow)
  newbie: about tarring
  Re: YP Server error?? (Brueckner)
  Re: Help with CVS (Frederic L. W. Meunier)
  Re: Synchronizing cmos clock with timeserver? (Timothy Murphy)
  "LI" Fixed!  Magic Number now.. (Tarkaan)
  Setting for X (Jacques Bourdeau)
  Re: Kernel Panic  ???  what went wrong?? (Frederic L. W. Meunier)
  Re: Diald - FTP'ing my dynamic IP to my Web Page? (Matthew Miller)
  Re: Kernel Panic  ???  what went wrong?? (Eric)
  Re: The best IRC and ICQ applications for Linux? (Frederic L. W. Meunier)
  How to change screen fonts size in console view (Knarf)
  Re: Real Media Player G2 (Mike Persell)
  Project management software? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  c-shell program ("cliff ahn")
  Re: Children's Software (Jonathan Chattin)
  Re: first/second/third world (Richard Kulisz)
  Re: A Capitalists view of freedom (Jon Skeet)
  Re: Linux Installation Questions ("Carl Robson")

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Cameron L. Spitzer)
Subject: Re: A REALLY Dumb Question
Date: 23 Jun 1999 03:08:40 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Johan Kullstam wrote:
>"Jeremy Henderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> I have to apologise, but all the discussions I have seen about Linux have
>> been in written form, so I don't know how it is generally pronounced!
>> 
>> Is it:
>> 1. LINE-UCKS, or
>> 2. LYNN-OOKS
>
>neither.  linus pronounces it LEE-nucks.

He does that in a very old .au file carried by some kernel archives.

I saw him last year at Silicon Valley Linux Users Group, where
he was pronouncing it the American-English way, linnucks, and
someone asked him, and he said he didn't care how you pronounced
the name, because all that mattered to him was that you found it
useful.

Most people these days pronounce it exactly the way the old FAQ
says you shouldn't: linnucks.  Leenooks would be the Finnish
pronounciation.  Line-ucks would be derived from the
American-English pronunciation of Linus.  All three ways are okay
now: the language changes over time, and in the direction of
increasing inclusivity.

cameron



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From: John Girash <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: "LI" Fixed!  Magic Number now..
Date: 23 Jun 1999 03:21:28 GMT

Tarkaan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I fixed the LI issue in booting..  LILO wouldn't boot from my 540 meg
> drive, so I installed a 240 meg drive above it.  Now LILO boots from the
> MBR of the 240 meg drive!  Fun!

I had a similar deal with a friend's machine, that had a WDAC420 in it
with one of those icky EZDrive-ish overlays on it.  Never could get LILO
to boot the sucker, ended up making it hdb and sticking an on 80MB Quantum
in as hda to hold LILO.  (*Why* a 420MB drive would need an overlay IHNI).

> My problem is this...I sectioned off 15 megs for /boot and I want to
> dual boot Win95 with the rest of the drive.  I have the rest of the
> drive set up as /dev/hda5, a Primary DOS partition (bootable).

Okay, mesa confused.  Just how did you get hda5 to be a primary partition?
I always thought partition #'s > 4 were only used for logical partitions.

jg



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From: "Michael Faurot" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux News Server
Date: 22 Jun 1999 22:45:14 GMT

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
: Hi,

: I am trying to find free or inexpensive news server for Linux (Redhat).
: What are my options? I have only found one (DNEWS) so far.
: Thank you.

INN
Diablo
Leafnode
Noffle
CNews

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From: "Jeremy Henderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: A REALLY Dumb Question
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 09:17:35 +0800

I have to apologise, but all the discussions I have seen about Linux have
been in written form, so I don't know how it is generally pronounced!

Is it:
1. LINE-UCKS, or
2. LYNN-OOKS

TIA

--
Jeremy



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From: Frederic L. W. Meunier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: FSCK and FS check forced....
Date: 23 Jun 1999 03:29:56 GMT

I have a P-133 32MB and S3 Virge DX and 1,6 WD21600 caviar HDD .. I
installed RH6.0 without problems ..
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You had this problem a lot to just fuck up the system, wright? What are you
doing when your machine freezes? Yes, maybe a hardware problem, but it's
just impossible to know what's causing this since you don't provide any
information. You're under X when it freezes? Have you tried to reproduce it
on the console? Well, i haven't any idea.
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From: Peter Buelow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: help: ipfwadm: setsockopt failed: Protocol not availableerror
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 14:08:36 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Sir Hoagy of the Marshlands wrote:
> 
> I believe that on SuSE 6.1 (the version I'm running), you
> don't need ipfwadm.  We have ipchains, and that does the
> job nicely.
> 
> I could be wrong, but I'm using ipchains and it works
> great as a firewall.
> 
> ipfwadm is for the older kernels.  I could be wrong; anyone
> wanna venture a guess here?
  Yep, if you are using kernel 2.2.* and up, use ipchains instead. Look
for the newest masquerading howto and it will tell you what to do in a
small area towards the end.
-- 
Peter Buelow
Motorola GSM/Bedrock
(847)632-6390

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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,redhat.general
Subject: newbie: about tarring
Date: 23 Jun 1999 03:30:58 GMT

im kinda new to unix, but i was just wondering how you tar all the files 
in a directory into one *.tar file?
And if it can be done at once, with different switches in the command line?

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Brueckner)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: YP Server error??
Date: 17 Jun 1999 10:59:18 GMT

root ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: Hi,
: 
: I've just been trying to get q NIS server running....  I'm using
: slackware 4.0 and it's going badly!
: 
: The client works, I can connect to another server OK,  but if I run the
: server I'm trying to set up, I get a delay then "YP server error"...
: 
: I can run ypserv in debug mode, and it appears to recieve the request,
: and start sending data, but then all goes west!  strace says that it
: gets sigchild at the point it stops or there abouts...  but I don't know
: if thats wrong or not!

well i had the same problem on suse 6.0 my. the problem was i compiled the 
server with gcc 2.7.x (don't remeber exat version). when i switched to 
egcs all prolems were gone. maybe you give it a try.
 
: Any suggesions greatly appreciated, please copy by email too, I'd hate
: to miss anything.....
: 
: James
: (james @ fsck.co.uk)
: 
: 

cya

Holger
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From: Frederic L. W. Meunier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: Help with CVS
Date: 23 Jun 1999 03:48:00 GMT

Where can I find a tutorial\FAQ\Howto on CVS and RCS?
---
Look at the CVS source. A 300kb FAQ is included. Or look at the CVS site
. If i'm not wrong, http://www.cyclic.com/

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Timothy Murphy)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Synchronizing cmos clock with timeserver?
Date: 23 Jun 1999 03:37:07 +0100

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Villy Kruse) writes:

>We are using chrony instead of xntpd; works better if you don't have
>a permanent link to the time server.  It should be available on 
>contrib.redhat.com and mirrors.

Surely rdate (followed by setclock) is accurate enough for normal people?



-- 
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e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
tel: +353-1-2842366
s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland

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From: Tarkaan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: "LI" Fixed!  Magic Number now..
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 22:45:40 -0400

Check this...

I fixed the LI issue in booting..  LILO wouldn't boot from my 540 meg
drive, so I installed a 240 meg drive above it.  Now LILO boots from the
MBR of the 240 meg drive!  Fun!

My problem is this...I sectioned off 15 megs for /boot and I want to
dual boot Win95 with the rest of the drive.  I have the rest of the
drive set up as /dev/hda5, a Primary DOS partition (bootable).  I have
the standard crap in my lilo.conf, and I've included:

        other=/dev/hda5
          label=dos
          table=/dev/hda

When I run LILO, it tells me, "Can't get magic number of /dev/hda5". 
Any suggestions?

-- Jack Tarkaan                                      Kalamazoo, Michigan
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From: Jacques Bourdeau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Setting for X
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 23:44:47 -0400

Hi,

I use Slackware 3.9 but this problem is older : 3.6 and less...
I have an ATI Expert 98 8 Megs, my monitor support 30-69
horizontal and 50-120 vertical. I use the Mach64 X Server.

The problem is :
when I start X, I never know how many colors he will use. Some
times, I have only 256 ( or may be less ), other time, 64 K ( or
may be more ).

I would like to have 64 K at all time.

With KDE, I have a new and strange problem: Opening the
desktop will allow a number of color but this number can change
any times and go down from 64 K to 256.

I would like to have 64K, no more, no less. What can I do ?

I've try to remove all mode in the XF86Config but X say that he
can not start as he don't find any mode for 8 bits.

In the script xf86config, I've set all depth to 800x600 ( wished
resolution ).

Thanks for your help.

Jacques Bourdeau


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From: Frederic L. W. Meunier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Kernel Panic  ???  what went wrong??
Date: 23 Jun 1999 03:41:55 GMT

Actualy I did include the ext2 fs!  So What is going wrong!
---
Of course, you compiled ext2 built-in <*> and not as a module <M>. Right?

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthew Miller)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Diald - FTP'ing my dynamic IP to my Web Page?
Date: 23 Jun 1999 03:48:06 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hi Eric,

I've came up with two solutions to this. One, does what you describe by 
storing the IP on a remote server. The second uses the dynamic dns service
provided by justlinux.com. Both work good but I prefer to use the dynamic
dns approach. I now just use the hostname from justlinx to telnet, ftp
and let people see my (mostly blank) homepage. It works very well. Its late
here so if you want more info just email and I will describe it more fully
and send you the scripts.

Good luck, Matthew
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Thu, 17 Jun 1999 16:03:38 GMT, Eric Cartman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hello All,
>
>I would like setup diald so that every time it connects, it FTPs the
>dynamically assigned IP number to my web space on my ISP account.
>That way, if I am elsewhere, I can find out where my machine is
>currently connected.
>
>Does anyone already have the scripts that do this?
>
>Also, I would really like it if it could also post on the web site
>right before going down that it is no longer connected.  But that is
>probably harder, as that would cause the link to stay up.
>
>Thanks much,
>
>Eric


"Every advance in civilization has been denounced while it was still recent."

-- Bertrand Russell

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Eric)
Subject: Re: Kernel Panic  ???  what went wrong??
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 03:41:43 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On 22 Jun 1999 20:49:15 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(Villy Kruse) wrote:

>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>Eric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>I just recompile a new kernel and I have this error message:
>>
>>Kernel panic : VFS: Unable to mount fs on 03:01.
>>
>>what I did wrong and what I should do?
>
>Hard to tell if we don't know what you did.  Maybe compiling a new
>kernel is what you did wrong.
>
>
>How do you boot this kernel, and what do you specify as the root
>file system?  Obviously the kernel thinks the root file system is
>/dev/hda1, and if that is not the case the kernel gets so upset that
>it runs into a panic.
>
>You should be able to specify the correct root device at the lilo
>prompt, for examle:  Lilo: linux root=/dev/sdb7
>
>
>VIlly
Linux is install on the /dev/hda1

what I did was:
make config
make dep
make clean
make zImage
then I cp the zImage to  /vmlinuz
then run lilo.

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From: Frederic L. W. Meunier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: The best IRC and ICQ applications for Linux?
Date: 23 Jun 1999 03:58:58 GMT

So what do you use instead? The only other viable one I've found is IRCII,
but "/window next" to switch windows gets annoying when on two active
---
Try Epic. If you're not a good scripter, start using it with Splitfire, one of
the best scripts I have ever seen. Or tsx, which can be found at 
ftp://ftp.geekbox.net/pub/tsx/

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Knarf)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: How to change screen fonts size in console view
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 00:12:59 GMT

I would like to change the size of the screen font (make it smaller)
when I work in text editor (emacs) so I can have a larger view.

i have tried stty but with no success...

thanks

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From: Mike Persell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Real Media Player G2
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 05:05:09 GMT

Jim Jowski wrote:
> 
> I looked at the Real Audio site and only saw Peal Player 5.0 as
> available for Linux.  Is there a hidden link or something that
> I'm missing?  G2 is a "nice" player and I'm anxious to see it
> under a 'real' operating system.  Please let us all know where
> it's available at.  I'm sure there are others as anxious as I am
> test it.

I got mine from www.download.com

Mike

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Subject: Project management software?
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 05:51:22 GMT


Any project management/scheduling software for Linux. Be nice if it
had time tracking, that was somewhat automagic.

        Thanks,

        John

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From: "cliff ahn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: c-shell program
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 13:27:12 +0900

I 'd like to make csh program with following function.

===

open  flag.txt
read  inteager from file into var

if ( var == 1 ) {

    ...

} else {

    exit

}

===



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jonathan Chattin)
Subject: Re: Children's Software
Date: 23 Jun 1999 01:53:36 -0400

jik- ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
[massive snip]
: Small joystick/keyboard operated arcade games...pacman....etc...
: Then some existing software...card games...etc...
[more snipping]

I don't know about the rest, but you can get a public domain pacman game
for snes9x (and other snes emulators) at http://zophar.net/.  Seems to be a
fairly decent game.

Just a thought...

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Kulisz)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: first/second/third world
Date: 23 Jun 1999 05:27:18 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
MK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On 22 Jun 1999 06:47:58 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Kulisz)
>wrote:
>>Of course, you don't need any argument to prove that the USA isn't
>>fascist or imperialist because Everyone Knows That, right? 
>
>No, because experience indicates that.

Ahhh, so Columbia, Panama, El Salvador, Nicaragua, Tahiti, Grenada,
and countless other nations are not colonies of the USA. And of course,
Vietnam, Cambodia, Indochina, and even Japan were not blatant examples
of an imperialist power wreaking havoc.

>>History proves this again and again, but that doesn't seem to matter
>>since those in power have a vested interest in your type never learning
>>anything from it. You prove yourself to be far more a pawn of those in
>>power than the socialists you attack in your ignorance.
>
>Conspiracy theory of quality worse than those in X-files.

Take a course on the topic from your local university's journalism
department, read a book on the subject, or attend one of Chomsky's
lectures. Do any of these and you'll find yourself talking about
conspiracies as a matter of course. As an easy starting point, you
might want to check out Project Censored at
http://www.sonoma.edu/projectcensored

*Real* propaganda is nothing like what the mass media trains people
to laugh at; how can it possibly be? Even your *concept* of propaganda
is the result of propaganda. Similarly your concept of conspiracy is
the result of conspiracy.

"Clandestinism is not the usage of a handful of rogues, it is a formalized
practice of an entire class in which a thousand hands spontaneously join.
Conspiracy is the normal continuation of normal politics by normal means."
        -- Oglesby

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jon Skeet)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: A Capitalists view of freedom
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 12:44:30 +0100

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> (What is of course worse, is that the bureaucrats are falling for it.
> For some reason, we always seem to adopt the worst of American
> culture.  *sigh*)

Yeah, but we get The Simpsons too :)

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http://www.pobox.com/~skeet/

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From: "Carl Robson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Linux Installation Questions
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 16:54:43 +0100

You might try Phat-linux http://www.phatlinux.com they have a windows
installable umsdos/slackware based system that seems to include support for
rpm. It even includes a start menu item that will reboot from windows,
straight into linux without seeing that ugly c:\   . As long as you have
lots of disk space and some unix experience and patience you Windows files
will be fine using this method.
Carl
Brian M. Begg wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>June 20, 1999
>
>Hello:
>
>I have Windows 98 as my op. sys. on my PC.
>But I need to install Linux as my temp. operating
>system.
>
>How does this work:  do I lose all my files I have
>saved in Windows 98 if I don't save everything to
>disk?  Is Linux installed on TOP of Windows 98?
>Can I access Windows 98 from the Linux mode?
>Can I access my internet browser (Netscape) if
>I'm in Linux mode?  Can I get online from Linux?
>
>Any help at all to these questions would save
>my life!!
>
>Thanks,
>
>Bubba
>



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