Linux-Misc Digest #417, Volume #18 Thu, 31 Dec 98 01:13:07 EST
Contents:
Re: How to use Tape Backup ? (Leslie Mikesell)
RPM x DEB, kernel upgrade and other things ("S�rgio Vale e Pace")
Re: Can grep work recursively? (Tim Smith)
Re: help me choose license (Bill Unruh)
Re: Any good charting tool? (brian moore)
Re: Time tracking system with database backend (Peter Potter)
Re: Linux (Red Hat 5.1 and 5.2) Y2K compliance (Christopher Browne)
Re: Ethernet/Token Ring and Cabletron Switches (Kazin)
Re: Anti-Linux FUD (Aaron Bredon)
Re: Database Recommendation (Jerry Lynn Kreps)
mod_perl doesn't work (S P Arif Sahari Wibowo)
Re: grep to a tab (Michael Powe)
help - message: cannot install boot loader (christoph erdt)
Re: Am I stupid or am I stupid. PPP. ALMOST!!! (Joe Zeff)
XWindows installation ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Can grep work recursively? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Help, resolving IP address with a ppp conection (Michael Powe)
Re: Applying redhat patches reconfigures kernel? (Marc)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Leslie Mikesell)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: How to use Tape Backup ?
Date: 30 Dec 1998 22:46:30 -0600
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Doug Bryant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>I did not care to use the graphical version as I want to run the backups
>at night as a cron job.
>
>I found the program mt and can access the tape drive and rewind it,
>erase it. I do not really understand the purpose of moving around the
>blocks (to the beginning of the first and end of the previous, etc.
>Well I understand what it does but when and why does to do it)
You normally only want to move by 'files' which is what you write
in a single run. If you write to the no-rewind device you can
just follow directly with the next archive without positioning
again.
>I also found the dump program.. I played with this and backed up the
>home directory as a test ( not very big yet ) the program kept asking
>me if the next share was ready.
>
>Anyway, is dump the best way to do this? Any suggestions? Better yet,
>If anyone has any scripts that I could use that would be very nice.
Dump is OK but you can only restore to the same kind of OS. GNUtar
is a little more portable.
>Oh yea, the tape is a SCSI HP that uses 4Gb dat tapes. I do not
>remember the exact model. (at home now) The backup will only run on
>the local machine, atleast for now.
If you can fit everything on one tape, just write a script that
cd's to the top of each filesystem (skip /proc of course) and
does:
tar --one-file-system -cf /dev/nst0 .
You can check the tape by reading back the filenames:
mt rewind
then
tar -tvf /dev/nst0
mt fsf 1
(repeat for each filesystem)
extract by cd'ing to the right place and:
tar -xvf /dev/nst0
Les Mikesell
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "S�rgio Vale e Pace" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RPM x DEB, kernel upgrade and other things
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 02:55:45 -0200
Hi,
I recently bought a book with RedHat 5.0 (old, I know) inside, the book
is pretty superficial but do what it proposed to do, now I already read
in LDP most of the Install and Get Started, a bit of User Guide and near
all SAG, and I have some questions:
1 - I know that this depends on what distribution I will use, but if
some of you experts will make a "personalized" distribution, what
package format to use and what the main diferrences (pros, cons) about
then?
2 - As you may guess I will try tu upgrade somethings here, and starting
from the start, lets upgrade the kernel (mainly for be able to use my
FAT32 parition instead of using a msdos parition on the second HD as
transfer area) mso I need some coordnates, hints, docs I should read
(please not lots I already becaming blind), and the famous etc.
3 - Well after instalation I proposed myself to upgrade X Window alone,
but guess what? I was smashed and kicked in all tries, followed
relnotes, install ent get..., so, any hints on this?
HELP!!!
S�rgio
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tim Smith)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Can grep work recursively?
Date: 30 Dec 1998 17:04:14 -0800
Kevin Huber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>find . -name 'filename*' | xargs grep 'some text'
One minor improvement: change the command to "grep /dev/null 'some text'".
That way, if xargs happens to invoke grep on a single file, grep will still
print the file name when it prints any matching lines from that file.
>or else look at the -exec parameter that find takes, or possibly the
>utility called "rgrep" that is distributed with RedHat Linux. rgrep
>claims to have better performance than the find/grep combo.
Another possibility is to write your own grep in Perl. Perl makes writing
a grep pretty easy, and then it is easy to customize it so that it works
exactly like you want.
--Tim Smith
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh)
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: help me choose license
Date: 31 Dec 1998 02:48:13 GMT
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (steve mcadams) writes:
>On Wed, 30 Dec 1998 20:36:51 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>First you should understand that you as author are not bound by any license
>>you publish under. Releasing your library under the GPL does not prevent
>>you from distributing the exact same code under any other license you
>>choose. Thus companies that want to use your library but do not want to
>>put their code under the GPL can purchase proprietary licenses from you.
>Thank you! I was under the impression that once the code had gone out
>under GPL that it was from then on "free for all" and that I, along
>with everyone else, would not be able to include it in commercial apps
>after it was GPL'ed. This bit of information answers most (if not
>all, I'll have to think about it) concerns I have had about GPL. And
>I would also be able to sell proprietary licenses? Awesome.
You ae the copyright holder. You can decide what you want to do with it.
The only thing you cannot do is to "withdraw" your license from someone
who has already copied your work under the old license. thus you can
sell the same thing that you released for free-- you are the only one
who could legally sue you for doing so-- Are you liable to do that?
However, someone else could of course sell the same thing as you do
using your own GPLed code that you released. Of course if your
proprietary stuff has value added (eg support, additional application,
etc) then yours would still be better than theirs.
Of course if others contribute to your code under the assumption that it
would be GPL and you then do not release their code under GPL they might
get annoyed with you and sue you for using their code under conditions
they did not authorise.
>I guess that if someone else was involved in development, for example
>on the Linux port, this would get more complex; I don't understand
>just what the ramifications would be.
>> Please take the matter of licensing
>>seriously, and please do not attempt to write your own open source license
>>without consulting a copyright attorney who knows free software, or at
>>least asking for help from knowledgeable people such as those on
>>debia-legal. Every week or so we see another homemade license that
>>contradicts itself or fails to do what the author intended. Crafting free
>>software licenses is, unfortunately, damn near as difficult as crafting
>>free software. And not nearly as much fun.
>I am already taking the matter seriously; the rest sounds like good
>advice. It's tough enough crafting a proprietary license, where all
>you have to do is include lots of "you may not" phrases with a couple
>"you may" phrases.
And many many proprietary licenses ( and GPL) are not worth anything
under law. They attempt to restrict what copyright law allows. Now if
you sell it as a real license-- ie you enter into an individual
agreement with them, then you can put in almost any conditions you
desire. But they will not be protected by copyright law, but by private
contract law.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (brian moore)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: Any good charting tool?
Date: 31 Dec 1998 05:04:36 GMT
On Thu, 31 Dec 1998 01:57:04 GMT,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (brian moore) wrote:
> > On Mon, 21 Dec 1998 20:15:52 GMT,
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > I need an easy-to-use charting tool (as opposed to drawing tool)
> > > for Linux. Visio is excellent but only runs on Windows. Any
> > > suggestions?
> >
> > Tried xfig?
>
> Xfig is a general drawing tool. I need something that can create UML
> diagrams very easily... specifically collabaration diagrams.
Well, I wouldn't call it a drawing tool, since it only does lines and
shapes (instead of freehand with gradients and all the stuff gimp or
even xpaint does).
It's a figure manipulator, great for any sort of line drawings (from
floor plans, to network diagrams to flow charts, all of which I've used
it for).
--
Brian Moore | "The Zen nature of a spammer resembles
Sysadmin, C/Perl Hacker | a cockroach, except that the cockroach
Usenet Vandal | is higher up on the evolutionary chain."
Netscum, Bane of Elves. Peter Olson, Delphi Postmaster
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From: Peter Potter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.perl.misc
Subject: Re: Time tracking system with database backend
Date: 30 Dec 1998 18:01:17 -0800
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Damon K. Haley) writes:
> Hello,
>
> I am trying to do some reasearch on opensource time-tracking
> systems available for unix (Linux or Solaris).
>
> The basic ideas is a solution that allows multiple users to
> document the hours they work and what projects they work on.
>
> It must be web-based and have a database backend. The database
> doens't have to be relational but Oracle or MySql are preferred.
There's few "scheduling" things in these pages of Gary's Encyclopedia:
http://www.aa.net/~swear/pedia/pim.html
http://www.aa.net/~swear/pedia/business.html
IIRC, at least one of them used a backend database, but I
don't recall any that mentioned "time-tracking". I wouldn't
be suprised if they could be used for that, though.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Browne)
Subject: Re: Linux (Red Hat 5.1 and 5.2) Y2K compliance
Date: 31 Dec 1998 02:54:44 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Wed, 30 Dec 1998 12:58:37 GMT, Jeremy Mathers
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>Mark Bashaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>Matt,
>>If you check the RedHat website you'll find a Y2K statement basically
>>saying that the Linux (and it's derivatives) are not subject to Y2K
>>problems. Unix and unix-like systems use a different date system than DOS
>>and Windows based systems do.
>
>Actually, DOS (and its derivatives) do, like Unix, store dates in Y2K
>formats (there may be exceptions, but this is true for the most part).
Please define "Y2K format."
>The Y2K problem is mostly about old mainframe OS's and apps, but it also
>affects the external interfaces of modern OS's - such as the COMMAND.COM
>'date' command. Remember, the line between system and app is a grey
>one, and I wouldn't be at all surprised to find somewhere, in some
>"system" database or config script, a 2 digit date assumption in Linux
>or some other Unix system.
It is also a hardware problem; many older embedded PC clocks store date
information with a degree of detail that really only supports their
being used in a rather brief 20-30 year period of time.
--
"Windows 98 Roast Specialty Blend coffee beans - just like ordinary
gourmet coffee except that processing is rushed to leave in the insect
larvae. Also sold under the ``Chock Full o' Bugs'' brand name..."
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <http://www.hex.net/~cbbrowne/linuxy2k.html>
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From: Kazin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: Ethernet/Token Ring and Cabletron Switches
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 22:34:40 -0500
Volker Dormeyer wrote:
>
> Hi!
>
> I have a serious problem in our switched Ethernet/Token Ring
> environment.
> I can�t ping (IP) from a Linux Box (Kernel 2.0.36) in the Token Ring
> segment
> to i. e a Windows NT Workstation in the Ethernet segment.
>
> Only when I reduce the MTU-size on the Linux Box to Ethernetsize (1500
> bytes)
> it works together with the NT-Workstations and some IBM AIX machines.
>
<snip>
>
> Some time ago I observed the same behaviour with a XyLan OmniSwitch.
I observed the same problems also, but on SynOptics token-ring hardware
and Bay ethernet hardware. We ended up making the MTU size on all the
token-ring machines down to 1496. I don't know if the problem was ever
*really* resolved, I left the company. But I doubt it's your hardware,
I bet it's NT... :)
=======================================================================
Mike Stella Software / Systems Engineer
http://www.sector13.org/kazin Thirteen Technologies, LLC
=======================================================================
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Aaron Bredon)
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy
Subject: Re: Anti-Linux FUD
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1998 09:22:42 -0500
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
says...
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Anthony Ord) writes:
>
> > A while ago I did a comparison of vulnerable configuration files
> > between NT and Linux. I said that possibly inittab was the only file
> > that could be corrupted which would prevent the system from booting.
>
> Okay, how about /boot/vmlinuz? Hardly a configuration file, but if
> /boot is read-write, and something horrible happens to the driver - or
> more likely, lightning strikes your computer, it could happen. :-)
I have 3 kernels in /boot, and can boot any of them from LILO, and
if the entire /boot filesystem gets destroyed, I have a boot/rescue
floppy. The only thing I can think of that would prevent a linux
system from being repaired would be a head crash that destroyed the
entire hard drive. (I have known someone who had this happen - he
even sent it out to a hard drive recovery firm, but they couldn't
get ANY of the data back - moral: backup, backup, backup)
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From: Jerry Lynn Kreps <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Database Recommendation
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 22:59:46 -0600
Mark Forsyth wrote:
>
> Years ago I changed from Win 3.11 to OS/2 because of MUCH greater
> stability, running costs and the availability of DB/2. Some time ago I
> changed from OS/2 to Linux for, firstly Postgresql and secondly
> greater stability. I've stuck with Postgres but with Oracle and Sybase
> having their products out there the choices of quality products is
> quite large. Having said that I'd go with Postgres. It's cheap, fast
> and effective and IMO of no lesser quality.
>
> Mark F...
I would agree with Matthew and recommend PostgreSQL.
Reasons:
1. Cost. While MySQL is also free, and a very fast DB, it has some
serious shortcomings, which the manual is quite forthcoming about.
2. The major ones are no TRANSACTION capability and no nested
subqueries. PostgreSQL has those, plus triggers, UDF's, multi-values
at row-column intersections (although not "assoicated multi-values as in
the Pick or AREV db), storage of graphical atoms, and much more. A very
mature, albeit not quite 100% ANSI 92.
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From: S P Arif Sahari Wibowo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.setup,linux.redhat.install,linux.redhat.misc,comp.lang.perl.modules
Subject: mod_perl doesn't work
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 18:20:31 -0600
Hi!
I have to apache server in this system, one is ordinary apache web server
(right now version 1.2.6), the other is apache-ssl from redhat secure web
server 1.0. I just update the secure web server to version 1.2.6-3
My problem is mod_perl, which is working fine under the ordinary web
server (at least the Apache::Registry), didn't work at all under the
apache-ssl, although I already set the conf files as it should be. I even
put the perl-status handler (Apache::Status) with no avail, it gives this
error:
File Not Found
The requested URL /perl-status was not found on this server.
Do you have any idea why it isn't working? This is the information about
my system:
Linux version: 2.0.34 #1 Fri May 8 16:05:57 EDT 1998 i586 unknown
packages installed:
apache-1.2.6-4
apache-ssl-1.2.6-3glibc
apache-ssl-utils-1.2.6-3glibc
mod_perl-1.11-3
perl-5.004-6
Thank you.
S. P. Arif Sahari Wibowo
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From: Michael Powe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: grep to a tab
Date: 30 Dec 1998 20:56:58 -0800
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>>>>> "Dave" == Dave Packard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Dave> I have not had any luck getting grep to search only the
Dave> first column of a tab delimited database. I have tried grep
Dave> ^.*\t to no avail - it doesn't seem to recognize the \t - am
Dave> I doing something wrong?
Dave> Or is there a better way to search just the first column of
Dave> this database?
Use a character class, like this: grep '^.*22.*[ ]' filename
(Linux 2.2.0-pre1) [/home/michael]
69 --> grep '^.*22.*[ ]' greptest
line22d34 asdfasdfadsfasdfsadfasdfasdf
line122 adfjjk;jk;jk;j;klj;k
Inside the char class brackets, put an actual tab. If you're using
bash, you'll need to do C-v first, this turns off shell interpretation
for the next key pressed; so it's C-v <TAB> to get a tab into the
brackets.
I think it will also work w/o the brackets, but it seems a little
clearer to me with the brackets in.
If you're doing a lot of processing in this regard, you may want to
consider using awk. That's what it was made for.
(Linux 2.2.0-pre1) [/home/michael]
90 --> awk '/.*22.*[ ]/{print $0}' greptest
line22d34 asdfasdfadsfasdfsadfasdfasdf
line122 adfjjk;jk;jk;j;klj;k
Awk, e.g., will allow to to pick and choose what fields from each
match you want to print out.
mp
8<---------------how-easy-is-it-to-demunge-an-address?------------------->8
#! /usr/bin/perl # if you are [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Another Luser):
while ($line = <>){ if ($line =~ m/^\s*$/ ){ last; }
if ($line =~ m/^From: (\S+) \(([^()]*)\)/){ $from_address = $1; } }
if ($from_address =~ m/\S+NOSPAM\S+/){ $x = index($from_address, NOSPAM);
substr($from_address, $x, 6+1) = ""; printf("The real address is %s\n",
$from_address);}else { printf("No munge, just plain %s\n",$from_address);}
printf("\nBrought to you by the Truth In Mail Headers Foundation\n");
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Michael Powe
[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.trollope.org
Portland, Oregon USA
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (christoph erdt)
Subject: help - message: cannot install boot loader
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 05:10:38 GMT
I tried to install redhat 5.2 in workstation mode, got almost to the
end of install but got a message " cannot install boot loader" after
several retry, menus atc. I rebooted.
1. now linux boots and asks for : localhost login. I recall entering a
password but not a username and cannot get in. What is the default
username ?
2. I tred to start over the install but Linux does not allow me to
start from floopy to load CD rom drivers but goes straight to Linux
and password - what is the way to reformat the drive.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Joe Zeff)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.protocols.ppp
Subject: Re: Am I stupid or am I stupid. PPP. ALMOST!!!
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 02:12:26 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (NF Stevens) wrote:
>When I set up my Windows 95 connection it took me ages to find
>the dial up networking scripting tool which is not accessible from
>any of the control panel dialogs that are used to set up the modem
>and other settings.
After several years of experience, I can set most Win95 boxen up over
the phone, with my eyes closed and without ever using the scripting
tool. (On rare occasions, we've edited an existing script, but we've
learned why that's needed and have a better, more permanent fix.)
That's not to say Win95 is better, just that my ISP works with it all
the time and has the job down so pat that we have software that
installs and configures the components on its own. Maybe if Linux
ever gets popular enough we'll develop the same for it. Lord, I hope
so!
---
Joe Zeff
The Guy With the Sideburns
another clue like that and I may have to start thinking.
http://www.lasfs.org
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: XWindows installation
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 05:36:27 GMT
Hi:
I installed the Debian's linux base system on my PC.
I tried launching the X Windows, however I could
not locate startx or xdm programs in the Unix directories.
I would like to ask what I need to install to start the
X Window system.
Thank you for your help.
Victoria
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Can grep work recursively?
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 05:52:36 GMT
In article <76e1dl$90v$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I was wondering if it was possible to make grep work recursively in folders.
> Is this possible?
Try
find . -name "*" -exec grep whatever {} \;
where * is the wildcard for the files like *.txt etc
--
cheers
- Yendor
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From: Michael Powe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Help, resolving IP address with a ppp conection
Date: 30 Dec 1998 21:06:13 -0800
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>>>>> "Bill" == Bill Unruh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Bill> In <76d0ht$7s8$[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Tom Kelly"
Bill> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> However, I am unable to obtain a responces from any other name
>> or IP address. Each time I try ping, I waits for about 3 mins
>> and then reports
Bill> Sounds like a route problem. Type route and see where the
Bill> default route points to. It should point to the remote
Bill> system at the other end of your ppp connection. Run pppd
Bill> with the defaultroute option (eg in /etc/ppp/options)
Oddly, I have a similar problem. Ping seems to have suddenly stopped
working. I don't know that I did anything to make this happen. Just
one day, a week or so ago, I tried to ping an address and got
nothing. I'm on a line out now (ssh'ed into a news server) that will
not ping. But, route seems to show a normal setup.
(Linux 2.2.0-pre1) [root] [ ~]
153 $ --> route
Kernel IP routing table
Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use Iface
i48-13.pdx.du.t * 255.255.255.255 UH 0 0 ppp0
loopback * 255.0.0.0 U 0 0 0 lo
default i48-13.pdx.du.t 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 0 ppp0
So, go figure.
mp
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#! /usr/bin/perl # if you are [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Another Luser):
while ($line = <>){ if ($line =~ m/^\s*$/ ){ last; }
if ($line =~ m/^From: (\S+) \(([^()]*)\)/){ $from_address = $1; } }
if ($from_address =~ m/\S+NOSPAM\S+/){ $x = index($from_address, NOSPAM);
substr($from_address, $x, 6+1) = ""; printf("The real address is %s\n",
$from_address);}else { printf("No munge, just plain %s\n",$from_address);}
printf("\nBrought to you by the Truth In Mail Headers Foundation\n");
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Michael Powe
[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.trollope.org
Portland, Oregon USA
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From: Marc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: Applying redhat patches reconfigures kernel?
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 06:09:32 GMT
Are you sure it reconfigured your kernel?? it may be that it was playing with
some loadable modules or what modules are accessed via kerneld????
Pete wrote:
> Dear all, I have Redhat 5.1.
>
> Yesterday I began downloading and applying all the "errata" patches in
> alphabetical order, but skipped over "k". I got as far as N (which has
> netscape and ncurses patches).
>
> When I rebooted and tried remaking a ppp connection, my system said that
> a ppp connection can't be made because either the ppp module isn't loaded
> or the kernel isn't configured for ppp.
>
> Excuse my french, but this is bullshit. Why should applying errata patches
> reconfigure my kernel? I refuse to believe that Linux patching can be this
> lame. My ppp configuration should've been untouched.
>
> Can someone please either tell me that it's not a matter of reconfiguring
> the kernel (and what to do about it) or that patches really do reconfigure
> the kernel and that I need to recompile it?
>
> Thanks!
> Pete
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