Linux-Misc Digest #857, Volume #18 Mon, 1 Feb 99 14:13:11 EST
Contents:
Re: Shutdown (Gordon Weast)
Re: Newbie question: can't run stuff? (D. Dale Gulledge)
Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class. (Dr. Ram Samudrala)
Gforth 0.4.0 (Anton Ertl)
Re: Linux keyboard locks up (gus)
flowcharting software (Eric Wyles)
Re: Shutdown ("A.I. van Berkel")
setting prefrences in x-windows ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: how do I turn numlock on when I boot? (Villy Kruse)
Re: Compiling BIND 8.1.2 on RedHat 5.2 (Villy Kruse)
Re: 2.2.1 module problems (Frank Hale)
Card database not found (Jack Timmons)
Re: MASM under DOSEMU? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Terminals (sources of used terminals) (Bill Vermillion)
Re: Criminally Insane Programmers Are Attracted To Open Source Code (Marc Brett)
Re: What does this error message mean? (John Thompson)
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From: Gordon Weast <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Shutdown
Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 10:21:27 -0500
"Michael 'BeLFrY' S. E. Kraus" wrote:
>
> G'day...
>
> > Create user "down" in group 1 and have it execute /sbin/down on login.
> >
> > Then to shutdown the system, you just have to issue "su down" and it
> > goes down to halt state. My system is also single user so I don't
> > bother to put a password on this account.
>
> Whoohoo... *risky* solution.... Really *risky*...
>
> All the best...
>
> Michael.
I beg to differ about this being risky. The only risky thing
about this is leaving off the password. We use this same method,
with password, on all our Sun machines here at work.
With a password, this is as secure as your root account.
/etc/passwd is already protected from attack. The shell script
in /sbin/ can be write protected and belong to root so it can't
be overwritten unless security is already breached.
In short, I find this method to be safer and more deliberate
than Ctrl-Alt-Delete. As someone earlier in the thread mentioned,
many users use the 3 fingered salute during login out of force
of habit with NT. Rebooting on that is most unkind.
Gordon Weast
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (D. Dale Gulledge)
Subject: Re: Newbie question: can't run stuff?
Date: 29 Jan 1999 17:23:25 -0500
Brian Newman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Often, when I install a program, I can't run it. For instance, I installed
> Netscape 4.5 to /opt/netscape. No matter what I type, and no matter if I'm
> logged on as a user or as root, I can't get it to run. "/opt/netscape/netscape"
> says "No such file or directory". "cd /opt/netscape; netscape" says "command not
> found". "cd /opt/netscape; ./netscape" says "No such file or directory". What
> am I doing wrong? I'm using SuSE 5.2 if it matters.
It probably isn't executable. Assuming that there is nothing else wrong with
it, use chmod to make it executable. However, be careful that the ownership
is correct and that you don't make it executable by people who shouldn't have
access to it. For Netscape, that should be a non-issue, but for daemons,
exercise some caution.
- Dale
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From: Dr. Ram Samudrala <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class.
Date: 1 Feb 1999 14:38:30 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In comp.os.linux.misc Stephen So <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >I *like* knowing that in addition to Linux there's FreeBSD and other BSD
>> >variants, OS/2, PIOS, BeOS, MacOS, AmigaOS, Solaris, Irix, HP-UX, OSF/1
>OS/2, BeOS, Mac OS, and Amiga OS are not BSD variants. They are not even
>remotely related to UNIX. I think Solaris, Irix,
>and HP-UX are more based on System V than BSD but I'm not sure.
I think you re-parse the original poster's comment.
--Ram
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Anton Ertl)
Crossposted-To: gnu.announce,gnu.utils.bug,alt.sources.d
Subject: Gforth 0.4.0
Date: 30 Jan 1999 20:36:02 GMT
Gforth 0.4.0 is now available from ftp://ftp.gnu.org/pub/gnu/gforth/
and its mirrors. A binary (+source) distribution for
i386-pc-linux-gnulibc1 (libc5) is available from
ftp://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/Linux/devel/lang/forth/gforth-0.4.0-i386-pc-linux-gnulibc1.tar.gz
and its mirrors. Binary distributions for i386-pc-linux-gnu (libc6),
DOS, Win32, and OS/2, and HTML and plain text formatted versions of
the documentation are available from
http://www.complang.tuwien.ac.at/forth/gforth/.
Gforth is a fast and portable implementation of the ANS Forth
language. It works nicely with the Emacs editor, offers some nice
features such as input completion and history and a powerful locals
facility, and it even has (the beginnings of) a manual. Gforth employs
traditional implementation techniques: its inner interpreter is
indirect or direct threaded. Gforth is distributed under the GNU
General Public license (see COPYING).
Gforth runs under Unix, Win95, OS/2, and DOS and should not be hard to
port to other systems supported by GCC. This version has been tested
successfully on the following platforms:
i586-pc-linux-gnulibc1 (libc5)
i686-pc-linux-gnu (libc6)
alphaev56-unknown-linux-gnulibc1
alpha-dec-osf4.0b
mips-sgi-irix6.2
mips-dec-ultrix4.3
sparc-sun-sunos4.1.4
sparc-sun-solaris2.5.1
powerpc-unknown-linux-gnu
hppa1.1-hp-hpux10.20
i386-pc-cygwin32 (CygWin32 b18, Win95)
i386-pc-djgpp (DGJPP 2.0, MS-DOS 7.0 under Win95)
i386-pc-os2 (OS/2 3.0, EMX 0.9c)
User-visible changes between 0.3.0 and 0.4.0:
Operating environment:
Path handling: "." at the start of the path represents the directory
the nearest enclosing file resides in (if there is none: the working
directory). "~+" indicates the working directory. The default path
now has "." in front.
gforth and gforthmi is now more GNU standards compliant (wrt
command-line options).
New command-line-option: --die-on-signal
Errors are now directed to stderr.
Stdout is now unbuffered, if it is a tty.
User input device redirection (for filters) is now possible.
Ports:
Now runs on IRIX (and other MIPS-based systems without linker-flag -d).
Direct threading now works on PowerPC (20% speedup on 604e).
Better support for m68k (thanks to Andreas Schwab and Jorge Acereda).
It is possible to create executables that contain the image (for
non-OS systems).
Added a lot of embedded control (EC) stuff. Supported controllers and
small CPUs are Siemens C16x, 8086, 6502, Mixed-Mode's FPGA MISC, Bernd
Paysan's 4stack processor. Not finished: ShBoom alias PSC1000, H8,
AVR.
New, changed, and removed words:
Renamed F0 to FP0 (avoids unexpected behaviour in hex), added aliases
SP0, RP0, LP0 (recommended for future use) for S0, R0, L0.
Renamed PARSE-WORD into SWORD (PARSE-WORD is used with the meaning of
NAME in OpenBoot and dpans6 A.6.2.2008)
Added FPICK (suggested by Julian Noble).
Added EXCEPTION.
S" gforth" ENVIRONMENT? now produces the version-string.
Changed representation of types in struct package, and correspondingly
changed names.
Miscellaneous:
Plain text documentation is now available in doc/gforth.txt.
Documentation improvements.
Wordlist structure changed.
Added mini-oof.
Reorganized files: added directories and reorganized many files into
them; renamed files into 8.3 format to work with completely broken
systems (but there are again some files that won't work there).
Bug fixes.
Various changes without log information only known as mega-patches.
Cross compiler now also supports compilation only for undefined or forward
referenced words. Plugins to support some native code generation
(for PSC1000).
More files in the compat library.
User-visible changes between 0.2.1 and 0.3.0:
Stack overflow detection by memory protection on most systems
(allocation with mmap).
gforth.fi is now fully relocatable.
fully relocatable images are now easier to create.
added primitives K and UNDER+.
Win32 support.
Improved support for embedded controllers and other deprived environments.
some bug fixes.
added concept index; other documentation improvements.
- anton
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From: gus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux keyboard locks up
Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 16:47:37 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Eric Peterson wrote:
>
> Hi,
> I've been running Linux for about a year, now, as an internet server for
> my home network. In the last month or so I have begun to get a weird
> problem. I turn on my linux monitor (the machine runs all the time) and
> the keyboard is locked up. The screen has a couple of garbage characters
> at the login prompt, and the keyboard is completely frozen. The only way I
> have been able to find to correct the problem is to telnet in from another
> machine and reboot.
> I'm sure there is a more elegant way to fix the problem, but I am
> embarrassed to say I don't know it.
> The only changes to my system lately have been that I finally got my SB16
> working (required me to change addresses for my network card and SCSI
> card). The only other thing that I have noticed lately is that Windows has
> screwed up the IRQ & address settings for the network card on one of my
> other machines, so it is unable to access the network, and the network is
> unable to access it. I'm going to have to disable the network card's PnP
> functions and hard set the IRQ etc.
> I hope someone out there can help.
> --
> Eric F. Peterson
> Politically Incorrect and Proud!
Crazy as it seems, I recall not so long ago, about 6 months, there was
someone with a similar problem. IIRC he used to keep the kboard on the
monitor out of the way, and the monitor switched off. Everything always
worked until he turned the monitor on, and then the kboard locked up.
Seems it was related to the sudden electromagnetic interferance /
discharge / change which occurs when the capacitors in the monitor
charge, etc. I think the problem was solved by keeping the kboard
further away from the monitor.
There must be references to it on deja-news. I think it was in
comp.os.linux.hardware
gus
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From: Eric Wyles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: flowcharting software
Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 09:28:56 -0600
Anyone know of any good flowcharting software that runs on linux? I
have some for windows, but I'm trying to become windows independent.
Thanks,
Eric Wyles
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From: "A.I. van Berkel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Shutdown
Date: 1 Feb 1999 15:07:45 GMT
joseph_a_philbrook__iii <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schreef in artikel
<791un8$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> In article <78t3d7$9a5$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> TufCrane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >TufCrane from Korea
> >
> >Hmm...
> >
> >Use "su" command!!
> >
> >$ su
> >
> The other method that wouldn't require typing in the root password
depends
> on if his system exectes Shutdown on the trhe finger salute
> <alt><ctrl><delete> I forget which initialization file it's in but I
> remember a thread where someone wanted it to halt rather than reboot...
> I remember reading in some older books how it was a bad Idea to do this.
> I suspect that was because maybee in early versions it might have
trigered
> a reboot without clearing the file buffers... But It works fine on my
> slackware 3.5 instalation...
>
Take a look at /etc/initab and "man initab".
Regards,
Arij van Berkel
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: setting prefrences in x-windows
Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 17:47:48 GMT
hello,
While running x-windows if i make any change to the prefrences
like changing the background or changing the mouse cursor the changes
are not permanent i.e. is if i exit and restart x-windows prefrences
are back to normal.
In which file are the prefrences saved.
Is it a bug or is it supposed to be this way ?
i have red hat 5, kernel 2.x Linux.
thanx
V0D
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Villy Kruse)
Subject: Re: how do I turn numlock on when I boot?
Date: 1 Feb 1999 18:54:58 +0100
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Eric Wyles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I have my computer set to boot with numlock on and caps lock off, but
>when I boot to linux, my numlock is off every time. I am also running
>windows 95 and AP/PRO and both of them boot with the num lock on,
>running on the exact same machine. How can I tell linux to boot with
>num lock on?
>
Can be done with setleds. Tha man page tels you how to do this.
Villy
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Villy Kruse)
Subject: Re: Compiling BIND 8.1.2 on RedHat 5.2
Date: 1 Feb 1999 18:54:05 +0100
In article <794gh5$ii$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>which gave me numerous errors regarding libbfd-2.9.1.0.15.so.0:
>
> as: error in loading shared libraries
> libbfd-2.9.0.15.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or
>directory
> make[2]: *** [noop.o] Error 1
> make[1]: *** [all] Error 2
>
>That type of message is repeated for several other .o files.
>
>I searched the system, and could not locate any file with 'libbfd' in its
>name.
>
Should be part of binutils. It is on your CD
VIlly
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From: Frank Hale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 2.2.1 module problems
Date: 1 Feb 1999 16:04:22 GMT
Michel Catudal wrote:
>
> Jeffery Chow wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I just got 2.2.1 and compiled it, but left ppp as a module.
> > For some reason, I'm getting this in my syslog:
> >
> > modprobe: can't locate module net-pf-4
> > modprobe: can't locate module net-pf-5
> > modprobe: can't locate module ppp-compress-21
> > modprobe: can't locate module ppp-compress-26
> > modprobe: can't locate module ppp-compress-24
> >
edit your /etc/conf.modules file and add something like the following,
this is what I have in my /etc/conf.modules file. I used to get the same
messages but now it correctly finds them or I just turn them off.
alias ppp-compress-21 bsd_comp
alias ppp-compress-24 ppp_deflate
alias ppp-compress-26 slhc
alias ppp-compress-1 off
alias net-pf-3 off
alias net-pf-4 off
alias net-pf-5 off
Hope this helps
--
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"I say line-ux you say lynn-ux,
whats the difference? Its still better than windows"
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From: Jack Timmons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Card database not found
Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 10:56:34 -0500
New to Linux. Learning as fast as I can but I need a hand.
I'm trying to use Xconfigurator to load Xwindows and I'm getting up to
the point where I get a blue empty box on my monitor (not the dreaded
Windows variety) with a message below it stating that the cardbase
cannot be read? Any thoughts? Thanks.
Is there another way to load the card and the Xserver?
Sorry if my terminology isn't quite to speed yet, I'm getting there.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: MASM under DOSEMU?
Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 17:50:13 GMT
'fraid I don't know much about DOSEMU/MASM , but there is a linux assembler
program out there called NASM. You might want to check that out.
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (David M. Cook) wrote:
> Has anyone gotten MASM to run under DOSEMU? If so, do you have any setup
> tips?
>
> Thanks,
> Dave Cook
>
THKS
Jeff
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Vermillion)
Subject: Re: Terminals (sources of used terminals)
Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 15:28:04 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Richard S. Shuford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>One source of terminals that has been often overlooked is
>Goodwill Industries. This organization sometimes receives
>donations of older data-processing equipment, which it then
>offers for resale.
>Of course, Goodwill or similar organizations will not be able to
>tell you whether or not a given terminal could be used with Linux.
>So it will be your own responsibility to avoid EBCDIC-speaking
>or otherwise incompatible terminal types.
If you do go that route, be sure to take along an RS-232 tester and
see that at least the some of the lights light up. Of course is
the receive portion is bad you still don't know without something
to connect. One of the most common ailments I've seen in terminals
is the transceivers being blown.
On things such as Wyse, you can send the board away for about $50
and get it fixed, send the terminal for about $85 for the same,
take it to a local shop and pay from $100 to $150, or
OR
you can spend about $2 bucks for a pair of the chips, and replace
them - they are the last chips before the RS-232 connector.
Depends on how good you are at soldering - 15 to 30 minutes.
Bill
--
Bill Vermillion bv @ wjv.com
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From: Marc Brett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Criminally Insane Programmers Are Attracted To Open Source Code
Date: 1 Feb 1999 17:40:47 GMT
In gnu.misc.discuss Jason Clifford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 30 Jan 1999, Justin The Cynical wrote:
> > Or would that be 'code forking'?
> `forking' I thought MS did something altogether different to their code -
> it does begin with a f though and is the same length and ends ing too!
`failing' ?
--
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] 455 London Road, Isleworth
FAX: +44 181 847 5711 Middlesex TW7 5AB UK
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From: John Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: What does this error message mean?
Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 11:36:57 -0600
jdn wrote:
>
> When booting recently, I got the following error message:
>
> "/dev/blah has reached maximal mount count. check forced" (obviously, it
> wasn't /dev/blah, but you get the idea).
>
> Now, I know what caused the error. I mistyped the partition number of a
> mount I had added, adding the extended partition, instead of the logical one
> inside of it. Fixed it, no problem.
>
> But, what does it mean to reach a maximal mount count? I simply would like
> to know for my own edification.
The ext2 filesystem keeps track of how many times it has
been mounted and after a certain number of mounts it
automatically checks the drive for errors.
--
-John ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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