Linux-Misc Digest #857, Volume #27 Mon, 14 May 01 18:13:02 EDT
Contents:
Re: load average (Dustin Puryear)
Re: that PCMCIA question (Linksys PCMPC100 V2/Dell Inspiron 4000) (Edward Ned Harvey)
Re: Linux in college & high school (Karel Jansens)
Re: KDE WM: no virtual desktop? (Bob Hauck)
Re: KDE WM: no virtual desktop? (Bob Hauck)
Re: KDE WM: no virtual desktop? (Professor J Frink)
Re: www.xfree86.org (Ian Northeast)
Re: KDE WM: no virtual desktop? (Grant Edwards)
Re: Identd and IRC ("daltrix")
Re: Catch-22 on Red Hat 7.0+update rpms install (Tim Haynes)
Re: KDE WM: no virtual desktop? (Grant Edwards)
Where is the 'crypt' prog (* Tong *)
Dynamic DNS service on own Linux system (Otto Wyss)
Re: Can I use FAT32 partitions using linuex? (Jim)
improper /boot/System.map when installing new kernel (doug reeder)
Re: My Linux Experience (Michael Heiming)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dustin Puryear)
Subject: Re: load average
Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 14:48:42 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Fri, 11 May 2001 20:10:26 +0200, Michael Heiming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On Thu, 10 May 2001 01:04:29 +0200, Michael Heiming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >The machine should just not swap to disc and it will run without any
>> >problems,
>> >even with loadaverage > 50.
>>
>> I assume you mean 5.
>
>Nope, I meant what I wrote, 50. Sure you won't reach this on a desktop
I can't say I've had a server hit 50 before. Are we both talking about the
load reported by uptime?
Regards, Dustin
--
Dustin Puryear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
http://members.telocity.com/~dpuryear
Integrate Linux Solutions into Your Windows Network
- http://www.prima-tech.com/integrate-linux
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From: Edward Ned Harvey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: that PCMCIA question (Linksys PCMPC100 V2/Dell Inspiron 4000)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.portable,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.hardware
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 20:05:42 GMT
Can you tell me if it applies to Dell Inspiron 8000? I am also having
trouble with my pcmcia, but strangely enough, my Inspiron doesn't seem to
behave the same as other Inspiron 8000's.
I haven't figured out if it's the Flash BIOS revision or not...
David Hinds wrote:
> In comp.os.linux.portable Yuri Fialko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> 2) I was about to "downgrade" to 2.2, when Jerry McBride indicated
>> that he could get the card to work with the 2.4.4 kernel (my RH7.1
>> has 2.4.2). Does this mean that the bug has been fixed
>> in 2.4.4 (David Hinds said that Linux is still working on this problem)?
>
> The bug has not been fixed yet. The bug is not specific to this card;
> it is specific to certain laptops. That is why other people report
> that your card works fine for them with 2.4.* kernels.
>
> -- Dave
>
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From: Karel Jansens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux in college & high school
Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 12:32:11 +0000
mmnnoo wrote:
> That new widescreen PoserBook is actually quite cool. If it works with
^^^^^^^^^
^
If that is not a typo, you have my vote for funniest post on cola this
spring!!!
--
Regards,
Karel Jansens
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"You're the weakest link. Goodb - No, wait! Stop! Noaaarrghh!!"
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Hauck)
Subject: Re: KDE WM: no virtual desktop?
Reply-To: hauck[at]codem{dot}com
Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 20:29:26 GMT
On Mon, 14 May 2001 19:18:41 GMT, Grant Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[no virtual screen]
> There also seemed to be no "virtual desktop" type feature.
>
> Is the KDE WM really that primitive??
No it isn't.
For the first thing, you want a virtual screen larger than your
physical display. This isn't specific to KDE and is configured in
/etc/XF86Config. For an XFree v3.x system, you would put an entry like
"Virtual 1024 768" in the appropriate Screen section. Note that this
won't work unless you have enough video RAM to support the virtual
size.
For the second thing, go to the Control Center->Look & Feel->Desktop and
click on the Number of Desktops tab.
If you have other questions, it would be wise to ask in one of the other
linux groups. Advocacy is for flames, not help. HTH.
--
-| Bob Hauck
-| Codem Systems, Inc.
-| http://www.codem.com/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Hauck)
Subject: Re: KDE WM: no virtual desktop?
Reply-To: hauck[at]codem{dot}com
Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 20:30:12 GMT
On Mon, 14 May 2001 19:18:41 GMT, Grant Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Is the KDE WM really that primitive??
Ack! Never mind what I said about advocacy. Got confused about which
group I was reading. Sorry.
--
-| Bob Hauck
-| Codem Systems, Inc.
-| http://www.codem.com/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Professor J Frink)
Subject: Re: KDE WM: no virtual desktop?
Date: 14 May 2001 20:27:33 GMT
>I just gave a new version of an X11 app to somebody running
>RH6.2/KDE, and they complained that the couldn't reach the "OK"
>button at the bottom of one of the dialog boxes. They've got a
>small display (800x600) and the KDE window manager refuses to
>allow a window to ether be moved partially off the screen or to
>to be larger than the physical display. There also seemed to
>be no "virtual desktop" type feature.
>
>Is the KDE WM really that primitive??
Although I have no love for KDE it isn't this primitive. You can have
virtual desktops larger than your physical resolution, that's X's job. You
can move windows off the edge of the screen, although how you're moving them
may restrict by how much you can.
You can have multiple workspaces (just like most other WMs).
With judicious use of right mouse buttons or other arcane
button/key/leg-in-air combinations you can move windows without access to
their titlebars (for those windows that appear bigger than your desktop).
Load up kcontrol and configure the desktop to how you want it to behave
(within reason) and set the Virtual size in XF86Config if you want a bigger
virtual desktop (although I find them incredibly annoying).
This isn't so much a KDE problem as a lack of configuration on both X and
KDE's part. You'd get the same problems on any WM set up to behave in that
way.
Frink
--
'Professor' J Frink
Ringtail to the Stars & Professional Mossbauer Guru
shrike at liv dot ack dot ook
"Ohhh, let me bash him just once!!" - Monkey!
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From: Ian Northeast <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: www.xfree86.org
Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 21:33:53 +0100
"Andr�" wrote:
>
> Hi!
>
> Does anybody knows if the xfree86 server (www.xfree86.org and
> ftp.xfree86.org) is down? If yes, is there any alternate server where I
> can download xfree86 source?
They certainly seem to be. The FTP server says "temporarily
unavailable". The web server isn't running but its host is up.
Try your local Sunsite. Ours here in .uk (sunsite.org.uk) has it.
Regards, Ian
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Grant Edwards)
Subject: Re: KDE WM: no virtual desktop?
Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 20:45:53 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Bob Hauck wrote:
>On Mon, 14 May 2001 19:18:41 GMT, Grant Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>[no virtual screen]
>
>> There also seemed to be no "virtual desktop" type feature.
>>
>> Is the KDE WM really that primitive??
>
>No it isn't.
>
>For the first thing, you want a virtual screen larger than your
>physical display. This isn't specific to KDE and is configured in
>/etc/XF86Config.
That's not what I was asking about. Most window managers (at
least for the past 10 years or so) support a virtual desktop
size that is independant of the X11 virtual screen size.
>For the second thing, go to the Control Center->Look & Feel->Desktop and
>click on the Number of Desktops tab.
That's probably what my customer needed.
>If you have other questions, it would be wise to ask in one of the other
>linux groups. Advocacy is for flames, not help. HTH.
I guess that's why I didn't post it to an advocacy group, eh?
--
Grant Edwards grante Yow! .. I want to perform
at cranial activities with
visi.com Tuesday Weld!!
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From: "daltrix" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Identd and IRC
Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 15:47:26 -0500
you need to add a -q flag to you in.identd call.. like this
/etc/inetd.conf
######################################
auth stream tcp nowait nobody /usr/sbin/in.identd in.identd -l -e -o -q
######################################
or if you are calling in.identd from xinetd then add it to server_args
/etc/xinetd.x/auth
######################################
server = /user/sbin/in.identd
server_args = -l -e -o -q
######################################
The -q tells identd to ident for masqueraded connections. It will look in
the file /etc/identd.masq for mappings. Here is a sample /etc/identd.masq
/etc/identd.masq
######################################
# format is HOSTNAME/IP IDENT TYPE
192.168.0.1 bigd WINDOWS
192.168.0.2 * RELAY
######################################
Okay, the difference between hard coding an ident in, and using a Relay is
simple. When setting relays, an ident request that comes in will be
passed on to your client that needs ident, so you must have ident enabled on
the client to send a response to your linux firewall, which in turns passes
this
onto the IRC server. I prefer using the IP * RELAY method because
it allows you to change your ident client side without editing the
identd.masq file.
If my information seems uncomprehendable, knock yourself out on
this tutorial..
http://linuxpeople.cc/howdoi/ninja_howdoi/irc_ident_ninja.htm
daltrix
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
===== Original Message =====
From: "Warren Milburn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Newsgroups:
3dfx.glide.linux,alt.linux,alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.mandrake,comp.os.linux
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2001 10:57 AM
Subject: Re: Identd and IRC
> I had similar problems so I took out the -o option. I also took out -e
but
> thats a personal choice. Also make sure your firewall isnt blocking
> requests to 113. After I made my changes it worked fine.
>
> HTH
>
> munki
>
> "Karl Babcock" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:eKgI6.115587$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > I am having problems getting my identd
> > service to work... It is set to
> > auto
> > run with -e and -o flags.. The auth port
> > (113) will open when it is ran,
> > but when I try to log in to IRC via
> > DAL.net, they say the identd server is
> > not running. I'm just wondering if
> > anyone could help me out with this..
> > thanks.
> >
> >
>
>
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From: Tim Haynes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.security
Subject: Re: Catch-22 on Red Hat 7.0+update rpms install
Date: 14 May 2001 21:38:34 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dimitri Maziuk) writes:
> On Sun, 13 May 2001 20:24:19 -0700, Norm wrote:
> ...
> > Of course,the Red Hat Network will solve this problem for
> > you with up2date if you buy a subscription from them, but I
> > feel it should be possible to create a fully updated system
> > in some sort of systematic manner. Has anyone come up with
> > one that works without a payment or subscription service?
>
> <advocacy flamebait>
> Yes, it's called apt.
> </flamebait>
Why is this flamebait?
~Tim
--
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And warming the hallowed ground |
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Grant Edwards)
Subject: Re: KDE WM: no virtual desktop?
Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 20:54:06 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Professor J Frink wrote:
>>There also seemed to be no "virtual desktop" type feature.
>>
>>Is the KDE WM really that primitive??
>
>Although I have no love for KDE it isn't this primitive. You
>can have virtual desktops larger than your physical resolution,
>that's X's job.
No, it's the WM's job. There seems to be some confusion
between the X server's virtual screen size and the WM's virtual
destop size. I was asking about the latter. Somebody has
already pointed me to the place where the WM desktop size is
configured. In other WM's with which I'm familiar it's usually
an integral multiple of the X server's virtual screen size.
>With judicious use of right mouse buttons or other arcane
>button/key/leg-in-air combinations you can move windows without
>access to their titlebars (for those windows that appear bigger
>than your desktop).
That's the part I couldn't figure out when I was asked -- none
of the mouse button combinations I tried allowed a window to be
moved off the sreen. If it's definitely possible then I'll
tell them it's possible, but they're going to have to figure
out how to do it.
>This isn't so much a KDE problem as a lack of configuration on
>both X and KDE's part. You'd get the same problems on any WM
>set up to behave in that way.
I guess the other window managers I've used have been a bit
more intuitive for me.
--
Grant Edwards grante Yow! What a
at COINCIDENCE! I'm an
visi.com authorized "SNOOTS OF THE
STARS" dealer!!
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From: * Tong * <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.questions
Subject: Where is the 'crypt' prog
Date: 14 May 2001 18:55:52 -0300
Hi,
Where can I find the Linux port of the Unix 'crypt' program?
It is far less secure than pgp but I find it convenient for me.
Thanks
--
Tong (remove underscore(s) to reply)
*niX Power Tools Project: http://xpt.sourceforge.net/
http://members.xoom.com/suntong001/
- All free contribution & collection
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Otto Wyss)
Subject: Dynamic DNS service on own Linux system
Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 23:04:00 +0200
I have 2 computers connected to a provider each with DHCP. So each time
I use a connection I get a new IP address. This is annoying if I want to
communicate between these 2 computers.
What is the easiest solution for this? Is there a solution to install a
dynamic DNS service on one of my computers without using a full DNS
server? Or are there other ways to fix the naming problem?
O. Wyss
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From: Jim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Can I use FAT32 partitions using linuex?
Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 23:01:18 +0200
Teke Tu wrote:
> Hi, I have just installed RH7.1. I realized that I didn't set enough
> space for the linux native partion.. so I am wondering wether if it is
> possible that I mount other windows partitions like NT or FAT32 so I can
> downloaded files to other partions to save some space?
> If it is possible, can you tell me how to mount a hard disk?? coz this I
> my first time using LInux.
>
> Thank you very very much...
>
> --
> Posted via CNET Help.com
> http://www.help.com/
Take Tu,
You can downloads files from the internet to your windows partitions and
copy files to and from your windows partitions. To mount your windows
partitons (FAT32) issue the following commands:
mkdir /mnt/win (if its not already there)
mount -t vfat /dev/hda1 /mnt/win
The above command assumes that your windows is located at the beginning of
the first hard drive on your system.
Now to see the windows root directory just:
ls /mnt/win
or to change to the windows directory
cd /mnt/win
Good Luck,
--
Jim
www.GlobalLinux.com
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (doug reeder)
Crossposted-To: osu.sys.linux
Subject: improper /boot/System.map when installing new kernel
Date: 14 May 2001 21:19:47 GMT
I'm trying to compile and install 2.2.16 on a machine which is
currently running 2.2.17-14 (because the tape driver patches are only
for 2.2.16). It's an HP Visualize (essentially identical to an HP Kayak).
I have executed the following steps:
cd /usr/src/linux
make xconfig
make dep
make clean
make bzdisk
cp arch/i386/boot/bzImage /boot/vmlinuz-2.2.16-tape
make modules
make modules_install
depmod -a 2.2.16
mkinitrd /boot/initrd-2.2.16-tape.img 2.2.16-tape
emacs /etc/lilo.conf
lilo
depmod -a 2.2.16 gives the following errors, which are for modules
I can do without, for now:
/lib/modules/2.2.16/fs/vfat.o: unresolved symbol(s)
/lib/modules/2.2.16/fs/msdos.o: unresolved symbol(s)
/lib/modules/2.2.16/fs/fat.o: unresolved symbol(s)
/lib/modules/2.2.16/misc/lp.o: unresolved symbol(s)
When I try to boot using the new kernel, the system complains that
System.map has the wrong version number, which makes sense because
there is no version of System.map for 2.2.16, and System.map is a
symlink to 2.2.17-14:
/boot/System.map@ /boot/System.map-2.2.12-20smp
/boot/System.map-2.2.12-20 /boot/System.map-2.2.17-14
What do I need to run to fix System.map ?
--
P. Douglas Reeder Lecturer, Dept. Computer/Info. Science, Ohio State Univ.
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Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 23:22:27 +0200
From: Michael Heiming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: My Linux Experience
Jim Johnson wrote:
>
> I have decided that I would like to succeed with Linux in order to give me a
> local web server, a firewall to the internet, a second on-line printer and
> perhaps mail services. I also find that it is a great catalyst for learning
> much about networking, mail systems and computers in general.
>
> The problem is that I find many tasks that ought to be simple, or at least
> possible after research and effort, to be insoluble. This is despite my long
> acquaintance with PCs under DOS and Windows,
This may be one of your problems, Windoze just lulls you in some kind
of knowledge, where in reality, you just clicked/rebooted like crazy.
Linux on the other hand, is an UNIX operating system, which offers you
great things, like multi-user to name only one. Sure it's not that easy
getting things working,
if you're new to it. But honestly, didn't you learn much more about your
machine/networking in the short time you used Linux, then all the time
you run
Windows, that hides everything from you?
> despite the fact that I am much
> above average in aptitude, despite the wide research and reading that I have
> done on the internet, in news groups, in magazines and in books and despite
> the very large number of hours devoted over the past two months. My
> diligence in attempting to solve my own problems has been significant.
>
> I don't write to seek help on my specific difficulties but to ask this
> general question: are my experiences common? If they are then I would
> conclude that Linux is far too difficult to use to gain wide-spread
> acceptance outside professional server roles at its current stage of
> development. If not then perhaps I have faulty hardware, a dodgy
> distribution or a peculiar clouding of the mind where Linux is concerned.
Distribution get easier to setup all the time, however, if something
goes wrong
you should have some clue about UNIX and may be fire up vi. Much power
GNU/Linux
has, is the command line, or to be more specific: bash.
I'm not worried about if Linux succeeds any "Desktop War", I just use it
and hope
hw support will be the same in the future as now, or even better...:-)
Some gimmick plugin like flash or ? are nice to have and it's fine, that
they are
available for Linux, but do I really need them? No, times I had some hw
related
problems and X didn't ran, just fired up lynx and could surf the net
with ease,
a side that is not working with Lynx, isn't worth looking at...
So, in the end, don't be worried if you don't get everything working as
fast as you would like, just check the docs/man pages/FAQ, ask
google.com or/and groups.google.com,
perhaps someone else had the same problem/question.
If it's still not working, just ask your question to the proper ng,
include enough info, to make it possible for others to help you and I'm
sure
there will be someone who shares his/her knowledge with you.
Welcome
Michael Heiming
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