Linux-Misc Digest #860, Volume #18 Mon, 1 Feb 99 21:13:10 EST
Contents:
Re: Advice for Microsoft-haters ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Printing problem (Seikosha SP-1900+) (Sam Vere)
Re: Help - clashes between /usr/include and /usr/include/linux (Paul Kimoto)
Apache and Netscape (John Robson)
Re: command in new xterm (Paul Kimoto)
backing up entire partition on zip disks (Martin Honnen)
Re: gnome/enlightenment/KDE (Conan Heiselt)
Anybody using TV-Out video? ("Alan W. Jurgensen")
Re: info (Paul Kimoto)
Re: modprobe troubles with new kernel (Jeffery Chow)
Re: A newbie versus "vi" (Paul Kimoto)
Re: TELNET.EXE (Philip Brown)
Re: Broadcast faxing for Linux ("Ken Abrahamsen")
Re: encrypted file system (Christopher Browne)
Re: when RedHat to ship 2.2.X? (Christopher Browne)
Visibroker, CORBA for Linux (Stephen Granger)
Compiling error with Soundblaster AWE32 (Devin Baines)
Re: gnome/enlightenment/KDE ("Markus Redeker")
Re: Best speech recognition software to control Linux? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
fips (David Ricardo)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Advice for Microsoft-haters
Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 16:25:19 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Michael 'BeLFrY' S. E. Kraus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> G'day...
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > Thanks for adding that last bit. It pretty much invalidates your entire
> > argument. The U.S. lost market share in chipmaking back in the 70s, not in
> > 1998. Things have changed a LOT in the last couple of decades. Japan used
>
> and Michel Catudal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > You're in error here, the greatest invention in the electronic industry have
> > come from the US. It may be true that some of the greatest minds weren't
born
> > in the USA but we're Americans even if we're born somewhere else.
>
> No. (And let me say right now, that no offense is meant or should be taken
from
> my following remarks.) You are both missing the whole point here. Both of you
> make no attempts to substantiate (please, its too late to even try to start
now)
> your claims (unlike others have done) and both fail to look beyond your own
world
> view and definitions of things as you see them.
OK...well I wasn't actually MAKING any claim there, beside the one that the
figures you quoted were inappropriate to the point you were attempting to
make. Are you claiming that wage figures from Encarta '98 can be applied to
the labor markets of Japan, PRC, Taiwan and other Oriental countries 20 years
ago?
>
> A person finds it difficult and annoying to have a discussion with someone
about
> any particular point when the other person is being inflexible, yet they
> themselves are.
>
> This type of behaviour is why many people say "Damn Yanks!", and get fed up.
If
> you wish people to think your country is as great as you say it is, then don't
let
> yourself fall into the stereotypes (and stereotypes, aren't necessarily
true)!
>
Actually, I was called a "Damn Yankee" when I moved to Georgia for about a
year. You have to consider the source. Are you annoyed with us because we
fail to agree with you? Sounds mighty inflexible to me. Speaking for
myself, I do think this is a great country. If I don't use that to
invalidate people from OTHER countries, what's the problem?
> Fortunately, I know all people from the USA don't act like this, however
others
> will see this as the example, and have their impressions marred! (Think about
it,
> you are posting to an international forum, you are an ambassador from your
> country, like it or not.)
>
> All countries have their good points and bad points. (Again, I'll say it.)
Just
> because something is different doesn't necessarily make it bad or worse,
lesser,
> or inferior in any way. It simply means that it is different.
>
> Yes, the US has come up with a lot of great stuff, and you can celebrate that
just
> as much as you want. Just remember that the US has a lot of other countries
to
> thank in the process, and shouldn't rub other countries noses in the dirt just
> because the US came up with it first, or they didn't come up with what you
did.
> And this certainly does not make the US's achievements implicitly better than
> another countries.
>
I agree 100%. Very few of us are actually FROM here, if you go back a couple
of centuries. I think we do suffer from intolerance of foreigners to the
extent that we are more rude in fact than our stereotype of the French.
> A good lesson in social interaction, celebrate other
countries/peoples/entities
> achievements just as much, if not more, than your own. Whilst you at it get
a
> copy of the book "How to win friends and influence people" by D. Carnegie. (I
> believe he's from the US, which actually substantiates my point rather than
> nullify them).
Another good point. However, it's probably as difficult for us to put into
practise as it would be for you, if not more so. I don't know about you, but
they just don't go over the history of every other country in the world in
public schools as thoroughly as they cover American history.
>
> This argument is getting more than tiresome, and has nothing to do with Linux.
>
> Michael.
>
I agree. However, I felt the need to correct a really stupid statement made
by someone to the effect that the first computer was built in England. This
guy (don't remember who it was) then proceeded to define a computer as...you
guessed it...what was first built in England. This was mighty Clinton-esque
of him. The fact that this statement was made in answer to an equally stupid
statement that the computer was invented in the US didn't excuse it. I think
we all should be as humble as Isaac Newton, who saw far because he was
standing on the shoulders of giants. Also, being in the company of greatness
doesn't in itself distinguish one from the rest of humanity.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Sam Vere)
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Printing problem (Seikosha SP-1900+)
Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 22:05:26 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sun, 31 Jan 1999 21:00:30 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Sam
Vere) wrote:
>Okay, firstly I'm on the SuSE 5.3 distro.
>
>Secondly, the printer I'm having trouble with is a Seikosha SP-1900+,
>a very old 9-pin dot-martix with Epson FX-850 & IBM Proprinter II
>emulation modes.
>
>The problem is that no matter which I set it up for, not only is the
>'Paper Empty' warning light always on, but also there are continual
>'lp1 out of paper' messages passed.
>
>Loading paper doesn't work since the bail bar does nothing. Neither do
>any of the printers other control except the main power switch.
Okay. I have now found that the paper feed *will* work if you put
something - anything - in the print queue.
Unfortunately all I get is garbage output. (Ususally very small
amounts of plain text near the left margin. Usually only one line.
Does this mean that my Ghostscript setup is out of whack, or are there
any dip-switch settings I should pay attention to - CR+LF Vs LF, that
sort of thing.
>Frankly I am fed up.
And more so every day...
>Has *anyone* out there *ever* gotten this printer to work?
>
>Or is it just a dead loss, & should I look for a newer replacement.
>(ie. anything younger than about 8 years old...)
>
>Thanks In Advance.
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Kimoto)
Subject: Re: Help - clashes between /usr/include and /usr/include/linux
Date: 1 Feb 1999 16:30:19 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[newsgroups severely trimmed]
In article <78p0ph$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Liron Lightwood wrote:
> I've been trying to compile a number of different mobile IP implementations
> on Red Hat Linux 5.2 on Intel, but every time I get compiler errors warning
> me that many differrent things are redefined in some /usr/include/linux
> file, (first difinition in a /usr/include file) and I also get messages that
> that there are conflicts between the definitions in each set of files.
>
> I've tried replacing all the /usr/include files included in the program with
> the equivalent /usr/include/linux files, and I've tried the vice versa
> approcah, but neither approach solves the problem all the time.
>
> I realise that Red Hat Linux 5.2 uses Glibc (libc v6) as opposed to libC
> version 5, hence the definitions for various structs and typedefs, etc. for
> user space software can differ to the definitions for kernel space software.
> However, I still have this problem even if I compile software which is
> supposed to be completely user space software.
>
> file included from /usr/include/linux/if.h:23,
> from /usr/include/linux/route.h:23,
> from includes_mn.h:23,
> from mymnode.c:18:
> ....
>
> In file included from /usr/include/linux/if.h:23,
> from /usr/include/linux/route.h:23,
> from includes_mn.h:23,
> from mymnode.c:18:
Because glibc (== libc6) uses its own definitions for structs, etc.,
you are not supposed to #include the kernel headers yourself --
i.e., <linux/*.h> or <asm/*.h> -- if possible. You need to identify
the header files that glibc wants you to use: consult the glibc
documentation, and examine the contents of /usr/include. (For
example, there is a glibc header file <net/route.h> that is probably
a subset of what you need to include.)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Robson)
Subject: Apache and Netscape
Date: 1 Feb 1999 20:56:08 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Robson)
I have Redhat 5.2 Linux. Before I set up dialup ppp to my ISP, I can type
in http://localhost in Netscape and it would take me to Apache locally.
But after the dialup ppp setup, http://localhost would give me a DNS
error. It would not recognize the local Apache server even when the ppp
is not running.
So, what do I have to do or change to get Netscape to see Apache as a
local host again ?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Kimoto)
Subject: Re: command in new xterm
Date: 1 Feb 1999 16:37:46 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <79520l$fb3$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Could someone please tell me how to write a bash script that opens a new xterm
> and runs a command in that new window.
$ cat > myscript
#! /bin/sh
exec xterm -e some_command and its arguments
[control-D]
$ chmod +x ./myscript
The xterm will close as soon as the command exits.
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From: Martin Honnen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: backing up entire partition on zip disks
Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 22:21:46 +0100
I would like to backup an entire partition (/dev/hda1) [the partition is
only accessible as that as it containded a vfat filesystem which
crashed] on zip (100MB) disks.
Anyone having suggestions on how to achieve that?
P.S.: CC of answers appreciated.
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From: Conan Heiselt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: gnome/enlightenment/KDE
Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 14:23:08 -0700
I use Caldera's OpenLinux (it got given to me on the condition that I'd
use it--I had RedHat before). After I log in, I can either type in "kde"
to start KDE or "startx" to start whatever my default WM is in my .xinitrc
file.
So, yes, you can have several at once. I do think though, that if you use
more than one non-KDE WM you might need to personall edit you .xinitrc
file unless it does so automatically (like when you switch from AfterStep
to fmwm, etc.)
good luck.
BTW. I really liked Enlightenment when I tried it about three releases
ago, but got a bit frustrated at times. I'm sure it's much easier now,
I'll have to give it another go.
conan.
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From: "Alan W. Jurgensen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Anybody using TV-Out video?
Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 22:16:05 +0000
anybody using tv-out cards in linux? perhaps running X or a 3dfx card
with quake or mame?
i'm thinking bout getting one these... would like to use video on TV,
how does one 'enable' the tv-out mode on these cardz?
thanks,
al-man
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Kimoto)
Subject: Re: info
Date: 1 Feb 1999 16:44:49 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Ben Russo wrote:
> "info" is a command in and of itself on RedHat systems, I don't know about
> other distribs. Info pages are just text files (like man pages) that
> contain manual documentation for commands and files and libs and stuff.
>
> The difference is that the "info" files are made using a different markup
> language that allows cross-reference links (kinda-like HTML).
>
> WHY we didn't just USE HTML and install "lynx" on peoples machines I will
> never know?!?!
"info" is the GNU format for documentation, and predates HTML by years
and years. Actually, these files are usually written in the "texinfo"
format (.texi) and converted into various forms like .info, .dvi, .ps.
There exists a program "texi2html" that is supposed to convert into html,
for those who like that.
> I think that the "info" command might actually just be a link to emacs
> console mode with the info tool loaded???
No, there is a separate "info" program. Reportedly its interface
has recently been improved.
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From: Jeffery Chow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: modprobe troubles with new kernel
Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 00:44:42 GMT
Hi James,
read the responses to my post "2.2.1 module problems".
I haven't tried them yet but it's the best lead I've got!
Hope they help!
Jeff
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Kimoto)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: A newbie versus "vi"
Date: 1 Feb 1999 16:47:46 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Neil Zanella wrote:
> Because ESC is out of the way. It would be nice if we could map
> the ms-windows symbol that comes with 104-keyboards to ESC.
> Then vi would be quicker.
>
> Linux does not seem to recognize the MSwin key.
Have you tried "control-["? On all sorts of keyboards, it
generates "ESC". (I have read that this trick doesn't work
on certain European keyboard configurations, though.)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Philip Brown)
Subject: Re: TELNET.EXE
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 02 Feb 1999 00:45:39 GMT
On 23 Jan 1999 10:02:54 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>Merzinger Markus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>MM> Does anybody know a good telnet-clone for Windows that supports
>MM> ncurses
>
>Windoze doesn't support ncurses. At least, I haven't found a
>curses-based app that even pretends to run on Windoze.
????
you need a decent telnet program that fully supports a particular terminal
type, not "a telnet that supports ncurses"
>
>MM> (-> I hope this is the thing that makes the console colorful ....)
First, you need to find a terminal type that supports color.
THEN you need to find a terminal prog that supports it.
you MIGHT be able to get away with the vague "ANSI" terminal type.
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From: "Ken Abrahamsen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.fax,comp.dcom.fax
Subject: Re: Broadcast faxing for Linux
Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 17:10:05 -0800
Try www.hylafax.org
ken
root wrote in message <795a3b$ilj$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>
>Hello everyone,
>
>I have a Linux system running a fax server based on mgetty. It uses
>respond.exe to provide access to my Windows 95 clients. All this works
>pretty well with some reservations.
>
>There is no broadcast fax capability.
>
>Does anyone out there know of a Linux fax solution that allows for
>broadcast faxing. This does not have to be a GNU solution since we
>will entertain a commercial package that will do this.
>
>Any information would be appreciated.
>
>Marcel (Free Thinker at Large) Gagne
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Browne)
Subject: Re: encrypted file system
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 01:23:44 GMT
On 30 Jan 1999 02:41:44 GMT, David Magda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>"Norm Dresner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>>You need a password to get onto the machine (if it's set up properly), why
>>do you need to password-protect the files too?
>>Are you worried about other users seeing them? Then create (or get your
>>sys-admin) to put you in a separate group.
>[...]
>
>Why not just chmod 600 (and chmod 700 for directories)? Then the only
>person who could access them is himself and root.
What if root is one of the people that ought not to be able to look at
the file?
Using crypto to protect files is useful when there is *reasonable*
trust in the tools used to do crypto (e.g. - if you encrypt using PGP,
you have to be a *bit* concerned about whether or not someone has
inserted a 'trojan horse'), but where you *don't* wish to trust in the
OSes capabilities to protect files.
My PGP-encrypted files will be resistant to attack even if someone pulls
the hard drive from my machine and mounts it on another machine so that
they can go around OS security. The same is not true for files with
`chmod 007`.
Does this mean that there are *no* available attacks on encrypted data?
Certainly not. But they are likely to be much tougher to implement...
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People consistently decry X for doing precisely what it was designed to
do: provide a mechanism to allow *OTHERS* to build GUI systems.
-- John Stevens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Browne)
Subject: Re: when RedHat to ship 2.2.X?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 01:23:45 GMT
On 30 Jan 1999 02:04:29 GMT, Ken Witherow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Frank Hale wrote:
>> Georg Schwarz wrote:
>> >
>> > When can we expect RedHat to release a distribution that is based on
>> > the 2.2.X kernel? (probably their next release?)
>> They're waiting until the patches and things for it simmer down. They
>> don't want to pull another RH 5.1 and ship with a shitty kernel.
>>
>> Anyway why would it matter when you can download the kernel and roll
>> your own 2.2 system.
>
>I read somewhere (don't remember the exact source) that Redhat would be
>coming out with the next version in April.
Consider that they do two to three releases per year.
Version 5.2 was released when? About November?
An April timeframe for a release seems almost *late* for a new release.
It is nonetheless a sensible time to do so; it allows there to be:
a) A bit of further EGCS stabilization,
b) Further GLIBC stabilization,
c) Perhaps a production release of GNOME, and
d) Quite likely a production release of XFree86 4.0 (note that one of
the XFree86 guys is doing a couple presentations at LinuxWorld on the
4.0 release at the beginning of March..)
If they put that together with
e) A significant update to Linuxconf, and
f) An RPM equivalent to Debian's dselect,
This would add up to some quite notable and noticeable improvements in
functionality.
An April release would be quite logical, although the other logical
date would be to release 6.0 *at* the North Carolina Linux Expo...
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do: provide a mechanism to allow *OTHERS* to build GUI systems.
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Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 08:50:01 +1030
From: Stephen Granger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Visibroker, CORBA for Linux
Is there a distribution of the CORBA class files out there for java and
C++ that will run under linux? Maybe someone has used the other unix
ones successfully? Have been using the visibroker package under WIN32, I
would rather use it under linux though. If so, where can I download it?
Thanks in advance.
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From: Devin Baines <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.questions,linux.redhat.install,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Compiling error with Soundblaster AWE32
Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 01:34:16 GMT
I'm trying to recompile my kernel to add sound support under RH5.2 for
my SoundBlaster AWE32 (configured normally).
When I do a make zImage, it stops with the following error:
make[2]; Entering directory '/usr/src/linux-2.0.36/drivers/sound'
make all_targets
make[3]; Entering directory '/usr'src/linux-2.0.36/drivers/sound'
make[3]; *** No rule to make target `lowlevel/lowlevel.o', needed by
`sound.a'. Stop.
make[3]; Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.0.36/drivers/sound'
make[2]; *** [first-rule] Error 2
make[2]; Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.0.36/drivers/sound'
make[1]; *** [sub-dirs] Error 2make[1]; Leaving directory
`/usr/src/linux-2.0.36/drivers'
make; *** [linuxsubdirs] Error 2
[root@slnt1 linux]#
I had this card running under RH4.2 but cannot figure out what is
causing this particular stop error.
The IRQ and other settings seem to be correct.
Any thoughts, Linux gurus?
Thanks
Devin
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From: "Markus Redeker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: gnome/enlightenment/KDE
Date: 2 Feb 1999 00:03:31 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Conan Heiselt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>I use Caldera's OpenLinux (it got given to me on the condition that I'd
>use it--I had RedHat before). After I log in, I can either type in "kde"
>to start KDE or "startx" to start whatever my default WM is in my .xinitrc
>file.
Or type just "startx <window manager>" to start the window manager
you like.
Markus
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Best speech recognition software to control Linux?
Date: 1 Feb 1999 23:19:12 GMT
jerryn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I use KVOICECONTROL, it's free and it's pretty accurate! PLUS you can
> read the code and LEARN HOW TO WRITE YOUR OWN SPEECH RECOGNITION
> TOOLS. So expand your mind, use kvoicecontrol
Where can one find this lovely piece of software?
Simeon
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Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 13:41:36 -0200
From: David Ricardo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: fips
I�d like to know how to solve this: I'm using fips to non-destrutive
partition creation and this program share my HD capacity ( 3.4 GB) in
3.2GB Primary Partition and 0.094 MB Extented Partition. Now I'm trying
to share de Primary Partition(3.2GB), and a message shows up in the
program and finishes it. The message is something like that: "...
image.idx or "something".fil are in the last cylinder". I've run the
defrag program but it doesn't make any effect! Please help -me !!!!
>From Brazil!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Alternate WWW Browser
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 01:35:16 +0000
Hi!
Since I read Netscape is not stable yet, I wonder if there are any other good Browsers
I can use. It should use the gtk-, xforms- or motif-toolkit.
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Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 01:28:28 +0000
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