Linux-Misc Digest #863, Volume #18 Tue, 2 Feb 99 07:13:17 EST
Contents:
Re: Login Shell (Paul Kimoto)
Re: Burning CD-R of long filenames in distrib? (David)
Re: ABC Simple scripting question (Paul Kimoto)
Re: micro-distributions (Dave Hulsopple)
Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class. (Chris)
upgrade to RedHat 5.2 and now my tape backup doesn't work (Daddy Rabbit)
Zip 250 under Linux 2.2 (Richard Lewin)
Re: Advice for Microsoft-haters (Mark Stolz)
Re: ES1688 sound card
Windowmaker upgrade blew away my root background (Brad Corsello)
SuSE 5.3 rpm HELP (before I install RH5.2) ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
flush buffer ??? (Hans-Joachim DRESCHER)
Login Shell (Jeff Grossman)
Re: RMS: The tail waggeth the dog (Richard Robinson)
Re: How to attach a file on command line ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Zip Disk: Win 95 OK, Linux not happy
Re: New to Linux (Thomas Zajic)
Re: flush buffer ??? (Micha)
3com officeconnect sugestions (Matt Zagni)
Re: Network time problem revisited... (John Thompson)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Kimoto)
Subject: Re: Login Shell
Date: 2 Feb 1999 02:11:40 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Jeff Grossman wrote:
> I am new to Linux and need some help. What is the best shell to use?
For shell scripting it is better NOT to use csh or tcsh. They are fine
interactive shells, but it might be wasteful to learn to use one of them
interactively while scripting in one of the other shells (the most popular
of which are all in the Bourne-shell family).
Otherwise, it's a matter of opinion. These days I like zsh, which has
slightly fancier bells and whistles than bash.
> Currently, whenever I use crontab or tin, it defaults to using vi. I
> would prefer to use Pico for these situations. How and where do I go
> about changing that setting? I am currently using the bash shell.
You want to set the EDITOR and VISUAL environment variables to "pico".
The syntax goes like
$ EDITOR=pico; VISUAL=pico; export EDITOR VISUAL
(where "$" is just the prompt). Put the commands in your ~/.bashrc
file to have them apply to every shell you run.
--
Paul Kimoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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From: David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Burning CD-R of long filenames in distrib?
Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 17:12:04 +1000
David Chien wrote:
> Halfway though my download of the RedHat distribution from
> ftp.cdrom.com, I realized that I'd like to burn it to CD-R so I won't
> have to go through this again.
>
> What format do I use to burn the long-filenames to CD-R that will be
> compatible with what the distribution expects to see from DOS when I
> install it off the CD-R?
>
> ISO Level 3 filenames? Microsoft Joliet filenames? ...
>
> david =)
Rock-Ridge ( I think )
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Kimoto)
Subject: Re: ABC Simple scripting question
Date: 2 Feb 1999 02:19:57 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, root wrote:
> you get the idea, now part of the file is generated according to whether
> I'm online or not. because this will be run by ip-up and ip-down, then
> ftp'ed to my page at geocities so anybody can access my pc (just 4 fun).
(This seems like a rather strange idea.)
> if test $4 -eq
> then echo "Current status: online"
> echo "Current address:
> echo "<A Href="
> echo \"
> echo http://"
> echo $4
> echo \"
> echo ">"
> echo $4
> echo "</A>"
> # The previous part generates
> <A Href="http://123.123.123.123>123.123.123.123</A>
>
> else
> echo "Current status: offline"
> echo "Last seen on:"
> echo `date`
> fi
>
> ---------------
> This is a simplified version of my script. I tried -eq, i also tried
> -neq, I still get the online version of it with no ip address, not even
> 0.0.0.0 I tried it when I'm online, offline, doesn't work. I know that
> the problem is in the
> test $4 -eq
> part
>
> I even tried
> if test $4 -le 0
> echo...
(1) `$4' means `the fourth argument to this script'. (Within
/etc/ppp/ip-{up,down}, that's the local IP address.)
(2) test $foo -eq $bar
and
test $foo -le $bar
require both arguments. What are you trying to do?
--
Paul Kimoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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From: Dave Hulsopple <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: micro-distributions
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 12:58:20 -0600
Howdy!
Two distro's come to mind - monkey linux, and dragon linux. Both fit
on a few floppies, and both will do what you are wanting to do.
I read the other responses, and I aggree that 2 megs is pushing the
floor of what Linux can run on. The last I heard, you need a minimum of
3 megs to run in text mode (which is what you get with dragon linux),
and IIRC you need 4 or better to run monkey linux.
Monkey Linux can be found at metalab.unc.edu and DragonLinux has it's
own web page.
Good Luck.
Dave Hulsopple
Gamma Rat wrote:
>
> I am thinking of installing a very small linux distribution on an old
> 386-SX with 2 MB of RAM and about 170 MB of disk. I would be using it
> almost exclusively to rlogin/telnet to another machine. The purpose
> of this would be to give me what amounts to a terminal with 12 virtual
> screens. I would like reccommendations for very small linux distributions
> that would fit on a few floppy disks, and would work on the machine
> described above, along with URL's where I could get them.
>
> Thank you.
>
> Ken.
>
> --
> The penguins are not what they seem ...
>
> These are my opinions. Others will believe what they wish to believe.
> It's not my job to re-educate the net. Demands for citations will be ignored.
> (And isn't it ironic how people demand air-tight proofs only for views that
> don't agree with theirs?)
>
> My REAL email address is ksinner
> at ticon
> dot net
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From: Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class.
Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 17:54:56 -0600
Darin Johnson wrote:
>
> "Jeff Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > Look at the embedded
> > market. They pick the OS that best fits their machine.
>
> Actually, they don't really. The OS used in an embedded system is not
> chosen for purely engineering reasons. Other major factors are
> involved, such as what OS do the engineers currently know, what OS
> have we used in other products, etc. You even have people trying to
> push NT in real-time apps, which is so unsuited that the desire for it
> can only be due to marketting.
>
> Basically, as insistant as I am that I use UNIX tools and such, there
> are others that are just as insistent that they use Windows tools.
> And there's the infuriating group in the middle who don't care (like
> my boss who suggested I run NT, and then use a telnet window to UNIX
> to get my work done like he does). This is independent upon whether
> it's a real-time system, and embedded system, or whatever.
>
> --
> Darin Johnson
> Where am I? In the village... What do you want? Information...
Just a comment: Windows telnet is the worst piece of junk that I have
ever been subjected to use. I even jumped through hoops with different
settings and could never get vi to work right. To me it looks like it
is notepad with a tcp/ip connection. Worthless junk.
Your boss must like self abuse or something. Tell him to get QVT/term.
Chris
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Daddy Rabbit)
Subject: upgrade to RedHat 5.2 and now my tape backup doesn't work
Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 01:42:34 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
After upgrading from Redhat 5.1 to 5.2, my scsi tape quit working. The
message I get is that the 'device nst0 is not working'. My question
is:
How do I get the device up and running again?
TIA
Jim
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From: Richard Lewin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux,alt.os.linux
Subject: Zip 250 under Linux 2.2
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 08:31:03 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I am thinking about buying one of the new Iomega Zip 250 drives (the
parallel port version). But first I would like to know if it will work OK
under Linux 2.2. Do I need any extra drivers? Also how will it affect
the parallel port when I want to print from it? I read somewhere that you
could use the parallel port for more than one thing but could only have
one driver loaded at a time. Does anyone have any experience with using
this drive under Linux?
I would appreciate replies by email. Thanks very much in advance.
Richard Lewin
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From: Mark Stolz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Advice for Microsoft-haters
Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 09:05:33 +0000
Johan Kullstam wrote:
[liberal snipping throughout]
> why can't i abide by any cali wines? do they all have to taste like gallo?
Well, if you buy Gallo, expect it to taste like Gallo. There are
hundreds of California labels -- of course I don't know where you are
or what's available in terms of Cal. exports...
> argh! california wines are the worst. all of them seem to be sickly
> sweet. is there something about california which precludes a *dry*
> red? is it the land or the american palate?
A little of both, I think. Most folks I know prefer young, fruity wines.
Not being a wine expert, I have always assumed that "dry" equates to a
more subtle flavor/texture, which tends to be obscured by very strongly
flavoured food. Implicit here is my observation that most reds are
drunk w/ dinner -- watch folks and they will (in California) tend to
a white for sipping.
> give me a decent burgundy (bourgogne) like haute c�te de nuits any day
> of the week. i don't care if the seedlings came from france, went to
> the united states and then returned by way of mars.
>
> hell, vinto tinto (some swedish blend of spanish vin de pays
> d'espagne) from systembolaget is better than california swill.
>
You have to tell me which Cal. labels you've tried..
--Mark
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Subject: Re: ES1688 sound card
Date: 2 Feb 1999 05:17:43 GMT
Try typing (as root) "sndconfig" at the command line. I think you'll
be pleasantly suprised.
Steve D. Perkins ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: It seems that there is only one thing left keeping my Linux system
: from being "complete" and allowing me to just get rid of my Windows
: partition. That is the fact that after years of Linux use, I am still
: without sound. I've been a little too lazy to fool with it in the past
: (and it wasn't really that high of a priority)... but I've finally
: decided to knock it out.
: I was wondering if anyone else out there has an ESS "ES1688" sound
: card in their system, and what they had to do to make it work. I have
: just re-installed my Linux box from scratch... with RedHat 5.2. I don't
: know if RedHat 5.2 already has sound support built into the kernel, or
: if you have to re-compile it (oh well, I've got to start experimenting
: with that someday anyway I suppose!). If the sound support is already
: there, can someone tell me what I need to do to "activate" it? If I do
: need to re-compile the kernel I don't expect anyone to explain THAT step
: by step in a newsgroup posting... but can you at least point me in the
: right direction towards the resources I need to read to learn about it?
: Thanks!
: Steve
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Brad Corsello)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Windowmaker upgrade blew away my root background
Reply-To: bcorsello@usa.#NOSPAM.net
Date: 2 Feb 1999 09:02:13 GMT
Installing the .rpm for WindowMaker 0.51 blew away my workspace background.
Now it's just that ugly herringbone pattern from the default X root window.
Nothing has changed in my WindowMaker pref file, in fact, changing the
pref file does nothing.
1) Is this happening to anyone else?
2) How in the hell do you get support for a hippie commune product like this?
(I know the corporate software isn't much better in the support department, so
don't flame. I'm just a little cheezed off.)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: SuSE 5.3 rpm HELP (before I install RH5.2)
Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 05:08:46 GMT
9 times out of 10, rpm binaries don't work in SuSE. So I rebuild the
binaries. Unfortunately, rpm --rebuild gives a "bad user/group: [filename]"
error, even as root. Which means I have to go in an tar xfvz crap.tar.gz,
and that, though it works, bypasses all the susewm (or whatever it is)
thingys and databases get all fragged up. Case in point, I installed the new
libjpeg and all my files were forever looking for the old one. If I could
properly rebuild sources into binaries that fit my system correctly, I could
use Yast to install single binaries and everbody would be happy.
Has anyone else had this problem, or am I the only one?
btw, rpm --rebuilddb worked once...after that, it stopped being effective to
solve this particular problem.
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From: Hans-Joachim DRESCHER <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: flush buffer ???
Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 10:27:14 +0100
Hello to everybody,
I have the following problem.
I run a program (written in Fortran) which makes some output to STDOUT
during the time it runs, typically 10 hours or so. I need this out put
to see that everything is fine.
Now, I want to run the program in the background, so I pipe STDOUT to a
file.
But then the output is buffered and only written to the file when the
buffer is full, about once in an hour (It is not very much output)
Is there a possibility to force the output to be written immediately,
like flushing it?
Thanx in advance
Hajo
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jeff Grossman)
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Login Shell
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 05:19:49 GMT
Hello,
I am new to Linux and need some help. What is the best shell to use?
Currently, whenever I use crontab or tin, it defaults to using vi. I
would prefer to use Pico for these situations. How and where do I go
about changing that setting? I am currently using the bash shell.
Thanks,
Jeff
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Jeff Grossman ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Robinson)
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,alt.microsoft.sucks,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.os.linux,alt.conspiracy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.x,gnu.misc.discuss,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: RMS: The tail waggeth the dog
Date: 2 Feb 1999 10:14:32 -0000
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Tim Hanson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[snip]
Yet another crosspost to the same mishmash of groups.
alt.destroy.microsoft
alt.microsoft.sucks
comp.os.linux.advocacy
comp.os.os2.advocacy
comp.os.linux
comp.os.linux.misc
alt.conspiracy.microsoft
comp.os.linux.x
gnu.misc.discuss
uk.comp.os.linux
Not that it's not an interesting issue, but this particular list of groups
is being used a lot, and IMO is tending to destroy the utility and interest
of each of the individual groups. I wonder why this same list all the time ?
--
Richard Robinson
"The whole plan hinged upon the natural curiosity of potatoes" - S. Lem
I don't want to receive UCE :- remove 'x' to reply.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: How to attach a file on command line
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 12:08:05 +0100
Take a look at http://alge.anart.no/linux/scripts/
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
:I need to send a file to some users by email under certain circumstances, so I
:am looking for some utility or script that could send an attached file to some
:email address.
--
Anders Gulden Olstad @ Jeeves
RedHat 5.2 Linux kernel 2.0.36
"Penguins are generally nice creatures"
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From: ball@chain ()
Subject: Re: Zip Disk: Win 95 OK, Linux not happy
Date: 2 Feb 1999 05:52:27 GMT
Nicholas Guarracino ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: If you want to use ppa as a module, when you compile your kernel, you must
: choose ppa as a module during make config. After you compile the
: actual kernel, you have to make the modules separately by typing make modules.
: Then you must install the modules by typing make modules_install. Have a look
: under /lib/modules/2.2.1/scsi and there should be a file called ppa.o which is
: the module you can load. Also make sure you've enabled module support in your
: kernel as well.
Hi,
Thanks for the speedy reply! I tried what you suggested, and got
a little further. This is what I now get:
chain# insmod ppa
/lib/modules/2.2.1/scsi/ppa.o: init_module: Device or resource busy
chain# insmod lp
insmod: lp: no module by that name found
Well, this is an improvement, actually. Any suggestions on how
I might get this to load? It seems the module is there.
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From: Thomas Zajic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.redhat,at.linux,comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: New to Linux
Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 11:53:09 GMT
Randal wrote:
> Question -
> >>(Note windows can't see the linux partions without special
> software).<<
> What special software is that?
That�d be explore2fs, get it from:
http://uranus.it.swin.edu.au/~jn/linux/explore2fs.htm
Thomas
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From: Micha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: flush buffer ???
Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 12:51:42 +0100
Hi !
> Is there a possibility to force the output to be written immediately,
> like flushing it?
don't know anything about fortran, but in C I use fflush(<stream>)
( in your case fflush(stdout) ).
hope this helps a bit,
Micha
--
Michael Schulze
FH-Brandenburg
http://zeus.fh-brandenburg.de/~schulzmi
email:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
============================================================
"...when your girlfriend's got a penis something's wrong..."
K's Choice
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From: Matt Zagni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.development.apps
Subject: 3com officeconnect sugestions
Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 12:01:51 +0000
Hi,
I wish to create a network it must be, easy to maintain,
rubust, connect both linux (suse glib2.0.7) -
windows and NT, fast and modestly cheap (4 PCs).
I have seen 3com office connect it looks like it may fit
my ideas, does anyone else have any other sugestions.
Many thanks
Matt
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From: John Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Network time problem revisited...
Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 22:05:30 -0600
Villy Kruse wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> John Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >
> >OK. Thanks. Any ideas on how to fix it? Tweak the timezone settings on
> >one or the other machine?
> It that case the time zone should be fixed on the OS/2 machine. Or start
> looking again for a better server program for your OS/2 machine.
Actually, it turned out the problem was on my linux
machine. Somehow I managed to configure it for US Eastern
time zone instead of Central. Once that was fixed all was
well...
--
-John ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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