Linux-Misc Digest #865, Volume #18 Tue, 2 Feb 99 13:13:13 EST
Contents:
Re: New to Linux ("GV Morgon")
Re: Advice for Microsoft-haters (Michael Powe)
Re: automount / umount SMB partition ("Manuel Mar�a Villapecell�n Cid")
Re: Newbie-Gray screen with startx-Redhat 5.1 ("Bob Glover")
Re: Looking for software on the Net (Chilly Willy)
Re: Kernel 2.2.0 problems ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Ho do I get linux (Nick Dreyer)
[question] deleted files recuperation (Laurent VOLPE)
pidentd & sndconfig Questions (K Lee)
Re: 2.2.1 module problems (Jeffery Chow)
Re: RMS: The tail waggeth the dog (John Hasler)
Re: 2.2.1 kernel upgrade problems (Julien Pinon)
Dynamically linked libraries, aren't. (Matthew Vanecek)
Re: Q: setserial (fred smith)
Samba File Locking: Playing With Fire
Re: Advice for Microsoft-haters ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Advice for Microsoft-haters ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: cdrom errors (Frank Hale)
Re: Advice for Microsoft-haters ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: "GV Morgon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.redhat,at.linux,comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: New to Linux
Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 21:36:43 -0800
Linda:
>From what I've read on the large HDD, if you setup the boot/kernel partition
to reside under the 1024 cylinder you should be okay, everything else can be
above that to my understanding. Someone please correct me on this if I am
wrong as I am looking at setting up a linux machine with a decent size
drive.
As far as if it is easy? Well, no. But if you have plenty of dos or
command line interface experience and understand networking you should be
able to pick up on it. I've got a pretty solid background in those items,
plus a dash of programming experience from college and I have been able to
grab at the stuff pretty quick. The "man" pages are indespensible as they
give all the info you could want on all kinds of topics, even configuration
files. Speaking from another newbie's perspective :)
Glenn
Gaea wrote in message <78slor$kf9$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
Hi everyone,
I'm about to install RedHat 5.2 on my p2 450 computer. Is there anything I
need to know before I install it? I have a 14.4GB HD and I'm going to put
Linux on a seprate partion. I would also like to know how do I boot between
2 Operating Systems. Can Windows 98 and Linux coexist?
BTW, Is this OS easy to learn?
Thanks
-Linda
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From: Michael Powe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Advice for Microsoft-haters
Date: 01 Feb 1999 21:36:12 -0800
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>>>>> "david" == david perron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
david> I agree. However, I felt the need to correct a really
david> stupid statement made by someone to the effect that the
david> first computer was built in England. This guy (don't
david> remember who it was) then proceeded to define a computer
david> as...you guessed it...what was first built in England.
david> This was mighty Clinton-esque of him. The fact that this
david> statement was made in answer to an equally stupid statement
david> that the computer was invented in the US didn't excuse it.
Well, if this refers to me, it's inaccurate. I did not write that the
first computer was built in England, I wrote that it was invented in
England. So, you're tilting against a windmill & denouncing a
statement that never was made. Since all the accounts I have seen
derive the modern computer from the abacus and Babbage's Analytical
Engine, -- in no way, shape or form did Americans "invent" the
computer.
mp
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Michael Powe
[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.trollope.org
Portland, Oregon USA
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Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 12:58:19 +0100
From: "Manuel Mar�a Villapecell�n Cid" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: automount / umount SMB partition
Kelvin Leung wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I got a RH 5.1 server running as Samba server for windoze machines. And my
> own Linux workstation is on the same network. I would like to know how to
> setup the automount of Samba partition from the Samba server (do something
> in /etc/fstab?). So that I don't need to smbmount and smbunmount everytime
> I reboot the system... Thanks
>
> Kelvin
Well... try to inser your mount instruction at the end of /etc/rc.d/rc (this
is the boot file in Red Hat 5.0. I don't know whether it continues being in
5.1). The umount instruction should be in /etc/rc.d/rc6.d/init.d/halt
Best regards from Sevilla
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From: "Bob Glover" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Newbie-Gray screen with startx-Redhat 5.1
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 14:17:14 -0000
What are the contents of the file ~/.xinitrc ?
Quinn wrote in message <796tn9$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>Newbie-Gray screen with startx-Redhat 5.1
>
>I am very new to Linux, the Redhat 5.1 installation from Que seemed clean
>and straightforward. Install picked up the PS2 (MS IntelliMouse), NIC,
also
>had correct selection of Video Equipment: Optiquest V95 and STB Velocity
>128. My processor is a PII400 Intel 440bx chipset 128 MB SDRAM�.
>
>The first install I made sure that X-Windows was selected and the color
>depth was automatically determined. When I try to start x I hang with just
>a dark gray screen, no crunching of the HDD (waited about 10 min�. nothing)
>
>The second install I set up the color depth myself and selected the no
>chipset standard. The same thing happened.
>
>
>Suggestions ?
>
>Thank you for your time
>Jason
>
>Please email me at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
>
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chilly Willy)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,linux.redhat.rpm
Subject: Re: Looking for software on the Net
Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 07:25:10 GMT
>> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.thelair.cnchost.com
>> "Democracy isn't just the best form of government; It's the only
>> one even remotely worth a damn. Only democracy guarantees that people
>> get what they deserve." --Zena Marley
>>
>> DISCLAIMER: All that I write is my own opinion, and my opinion may not
>> be the opinion of my school or electronic courier. For that matter, it
>> may not be your opinion, but deal with it.
Just to let you know our government is not a democracy. We do not
live in a democracy. If you remember the old allegence to the flag
and the preamble to the constitution then you'll know what kind of
government we have. Lets keep our facts straight.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Kernel 2.2.0 problems
Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 14:27:51 GMT
In article <794pfm$6h5$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Dan Nguyen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In comp.os.linux.misc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> : I compiled kernel 2.2.0 the other day and when I tried to boot the
kernel...i
> : would get a messages saying "uncompressing linux and now booting the kernel"
> : and it would just hang right there.....wouldn't do a thing. In fact...this
> : exact thing happened on 2 different machines. On one of the machines(my
home
> : machine), I use loadlin to boot the kernel. On the other machine(a test
> : server at my ISP), the kernel is typically booted using LILO. Anyone have
> : any ideas as to why it won't boot?
>
> Are you sure you got the compressed zImage file. And did you run lilo
> after installing the new kernel.
Well since I am loading the kernel using loadlin...i wouldnt have to run lilo
again would i?
>
> --
> Dan Nguyen | There is only one happiness in
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] | life, to love and be loved.
> http://www.cse.msu.edu/~nguyend7 | -George Sand
>
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Nick Dreyer)
Subject: Re: Ho do I get linux
Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 07:52:07 GMT
Take a look at http://www.ssc.com/linux/apps/ftp.html
or the Linux Developement Project (LDP) at
http://sunsite.unc.edu/mdw/LDP/gs/node4.html
Good luck, |\|.
On Mon, 01 Feb 1999 07:05:33 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kevin Higgs) wroth:
> Hi
>where can i get, or download what i need to start using linux, ie the kernel,
>gui's etc...
>
>kevin
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Laurent VOLPE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [question] deleted files recuperation
Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 09:28:23 +0100
I want to known if it is possible to recuperate files deleted by "rm -f
-r *" instruction ???
Thank you
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From: K Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: pidentd & sndconfig Questions
Date: 2 Feb 1999 07:02:31 GMT
Hello,
I know, they seem quite unrelated and they are :) It's just that I
finally got 2.2.1 to compile correctly and have just about everything's
working again, save for the above things.
Please throw me a rope with these things:
1. I can't rlogin to my school account cuz it tells me that my host (my
own linux box, really) does not respond to an authentication query (a-la
FRC 931 ident stuff). I had this working before (2.0.36) with this entry
in my /etc/inetd.conf:
auth stream tcp nowait nobody /usr/sbin/in.identd in.identd -l
-e -o (all one line)
or sometimes this would work as well:
auth stream tcp wait root /usr/sbin/in.identd in.identd -w -t120 -l
But neither's working right now. I know it's alright on the school end,
cuz my buddy could rlongin no problem. Can someone please help me out
with this?
2. I finally got my SB 128PCI to work now, playing mp3's and even
realplayer works, but now when I try to run sndconfig, it gives me this
error:
You don't seem to be running a kernel with modular sound
enabled. To use sndconfig, you must be running a kernel
with the new modular sound, such as the kernel shipped
with Red Hat Linux or a 2.1.x kernel, and sound must be
compiled as a module. Patches for the 2.0.3x series of
kernels are available at: .....
But I did compile my sound support as modules. I only had to choose sound
support and support for the Ensoniq AudioPCI (SB 64/128 PCI). I don't
quite understand this error message. Any suggestions or tips would be
greatly appreciated.
Best,
Steve
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From: Jeffery Chow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 2.2.1 module problems
Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 07:43:02 GMT
grinder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > kernel: Error seeking into /dev/mem
> > kernel: Error adding kernel module table entry.
> >
> Try copying the System.map file in /usr/src/linux to
> /boot/System.map-2.2.1 If that doesnt work you might also need to update
> sysklogd to version 1.3.28.
Hi [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Your advice seems to have solved the problems with ppp-compress-2*
and net-pf-*, but now I'm getting a weird one:
char-major-6. I don't suppose this is related to using my extended
keys (arrows, keypad, 6-cluster) in X? I'd like to just
'alias char-major-6 off' it, but if it's related to my X keyboard
problems, I'd like to leave it on.
I tried moving System.map to /boot/System.map-2.2.1 and updating
the symlink from /boot/System.map, but the same problem happens.
I'm using syslogd (I'm assuming you mean 'syslogd' as opposed to
'sysklogd') version 1.3-3.
Do you know if there's anything else I can do?
Jeff
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From: John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: RMS: The tail waggeth the dog
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 13:37:07 GMT
Tim Hanson writes:
> I'm assuming RMS won't mind quoting verbatim. What does everyone think
> of this manifesto?
It's really nothing new.
--
John Hasler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler)
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, WI
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.admin
From: Julien Pinon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 2.2.1 kernel upgrade problems
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 07:16:11 GMT
I had the same problem with 2.2.0
My solution was to disable LUN scaning in the kernel configuration, which I think is
not compatible ( at least on my box ) with SCSI emulation.
Matt Kressel wrote:
> WORLOK wrote:
> >
> > Greetings,
> >
> > I compiled the 2.2.1 kernel and installed it as a secondary kernel, so that I
> > can still boot into 2.0.36. Thank God I did. I find that the 2.2.1 kernel is
> > way faster than the old one. My system is almost twice as fast opening
> > programs, and drawing windows (etc..) in X. Beautiful. I want to use 2.2.1 all
> > of the time, but I need access to my CDROM, CDRW (both ATAPI).
> >
> > The weird thing is that I can't mount my CDROMS! I have no problems with the
> > old kernel. It looks like a permissions problem, but I haven't messed with that
> > and they work fine under the old kernel. I compiled in all IDE/ATAPI/SCSI
> > support. Can't figure out what is going on. Anybody else see anything like
> > this?
> >
>
> Do you have support for iso9660 filesystems in your new kernel?
>
> > I reconfigured and recompiled it a few times, made it clean, etc... Same
> > problems. I read everything I could find on kernel compiling/installing.
> >
> > Everything else works except man.
> >
> > Oh, and if anyone knows what might cause this: For either kernel, all of a
> > sudden man doesn't work. If I man to the /path-to-manpage, it works. If I just
> > type in man "command", she doesn't work.
>
> See if your MANPATH environment variable has gotten mashed somehow.
> Usually this is set in /etc/profile and maybe in ~/.profile
>
> -Matt
>
> --
> Matthew O. Kressel | INTERNET: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> +--------- Northrop Grumman Corporation, Bethpage, NY ---------+
> +--------- TEL: (516) 346-9101 FAX: (516) 346-9740 ------------+
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From: Matthew Vanecek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Dynamically linked libraries, aren't.
Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 07:42:45 +0000
I just put together a new computer: A K6-2 3D/350Mhz, BT-932 Host
adapter, with a Seagate 4.5G SCSI HD, and scsi CD/CD-R, and 64M Ram.
I'm having problems with the libs being detected as dynamic. When ever
I run ldd on a dynamic library, I get the following error:
root:reliant me2v$ ldd /lib/libss.so.2.0
6
not a dynamic executable
I get this error on all the libs on this system. I have mounted my
other box via NFS, and ldd'ed libs on that drive, and got the same
error. All those libs, however, return correct responses to ldd if I
run it on my old box. I've copied known good libs to the box, and got
the same error. I have all the correct versions, stock RH 5.1 install,
nothing fancy. If I nfs mount the errant box from my old box, and run
ldd on any lib, I get the correct results. Yet my scsi system
consistently returns errors on the exact same libs that returned good
results on my other box.
Any ideas or thoughts would be greatly appreciated; this problem has me
stumped.
BTW, if it matters, I've tried this with kernel 2.0.34, 2.0.36,
2.2.0pre9, and 2.2.1. I doubt that the kernel or software is the
problem. It's almost definitely got to be a hardware incompatibility of
some type, but what?
--
Matthew Vanecek
Studies in Business Computers at the University of North Texas
http://www.unt.edu/bcis
Visit my Website at http://people.unt.edu/~mev0003
*****************************************************************
For 93 million miles, there is nothing between the sun and my shadow
except me. I'm always getting in the way of something...
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (fred smith)
Subject: Re: Q: setserial
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 00:56:20 GMT
Goran Allerbo ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: I've bought me a additional serial board to get ttyS2 and 3
: on my SuSE5.3. When I boot the system it says something like
: ( regarding my additional board) :
<snip>
: So what I do is:
: /sbin/setserial -b /dev/cua2 uart 16550A port 0x3E8 irq 5
: /sbin/setserial -b /dev/cua3 uart 16550A port 0x2E8 irq 9
: after that a 'setserial -a /dev/cua3' says that this device
: now use irq2, which is ok as it's a synonym of irq9, has the
: correct address and everything else. All looks very ok,
: but the port just does'nt work!! I need it for my PilotManager.
Did you actually re-jumper the ports so that the hardware knows they
are using IRQ5 and IRQ9 ??
Fred.
--
---- Fred Smith -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -----------------------------
"And he will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father,
Prince of Peace. Of the increase of his government there will be no end. He
will reign on David's throne and over his kingdom, establishing and upholding
it with justice and righteousness from that time on and forever."
=============================== Isaiah 9:7 (niv) ==============================
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From: ball@chain ()
Subject: Samba File Locking: Playing With Fire
Date: 2 Feb 1999 08:23:25 GMT
Hi,
I tried to ./configure samba, and encountered this error:
checking configure summary
ERROR: No locking available. Running Samba would be unsafe
configure: error: summary failure. Aborting config
Hmmm... Is this a big deal? Should I attempt to override
this? (I will be the only one with access.)
Alternatively, how do I get locking? In noticed:
checking for fcntl locking... no
checking for 64 bit fcntl locking... no
in the configuration output.
Do I just ignore the warnings and risk a deadly inode crash?
Ideas anyone?
Thanks!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Advice for Microsoft-haters
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 17:23:12 GMT
Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> >And I can't believe Intel engineers couldn't understand why they could
>> >do this. They must be blind. Cheaper labor, No unions, People who are
>> >happy to have a job and will do anything to keep it.
>>
>> I guess the following statistics are not true, then:
>You forgot to include the cost of living in that country.
>Did you research what it cost to rent an apartment in Japan.
>If you can find one.
So you are saying that the Japanese are more successful at selling
electronics and optics (and other high-tech stuff) on the American
market because the rents are high in Japan?
Japanese labor is cheaper than American. Well, actually, it isn't, but
relative to the cost of living, it is. Uhm, frankly, I don't think that
it matters at all to the price of a Walkman what the worker who built it
spends his wages on. All that matters is how much she got.
There are no unions in Japan. Well, actually, there are, and the
percentage of workers organized in unions is higher than in the US.
Hmmm --- but hey, the unions don't call for labour stoppages anywhere near
as often as the US ones, so they are not _really_ unions, right?
The Japanese workers are happy to have a job at all. Well, in fact,
Japan's unemployment rate was considerably smaller than the US one,
but, uhm, I guess that's because Japanese people are too proud to
collect unemployment pay. Yep, that must be it. It's not that they
_really_ have less unemployment.
Did I sum that up correctly?
Bernie
--
============================================================================
"It's a magical world, Hobbes ol' buddy...
...let's go exploring"
Calvin's final words, on December 31st, 1995
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Advice for Microsoft-haters
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 17:23:14 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher B. Browne) writes:
>On Mon, 01 Feb 1999 08:33:19 -0600, pdohert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted:
>>David Martin wrote:
>>> ANd I thought that the technology was invented in britain, made in Asia
>>> and sold to us by americans..
>>
>>Exactly *what* technologies that the modern digital computer relies on
>>were created in Britain?
>Computability.
Didn't Babbage also "invent" (or is it "discover"?) the binary system?
(*Checks his Encyclopedia Britannica* Nope, that was Leibniz, a German
17th century mathematician)
Oh, and one might ask who those damn "Boolean expressions" are named after....
Bernie
P.S.: And extra points for anyone who can name the birth countries of the
three people who shared a Nobel Prize for the invention of the
transistor ;-)
--
============================================================================
"It's a magical world, Hobbes ol' buddy...
...let's go exploring"
Calvin's final words, on December 31st, 1995
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From: Frank Hale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: cdrom errors
Date: 2 Feb 1999 17:15:29 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > hdc: status error: status=0x58 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest }
> > hdc: DMA disabled
> > hdc: drive not ready for command
> > hdc: ATAPI reset complete
> > ATAPI device hdc:
> > Error: Unit attention -- (Sense key=0x06)
> > Power on, reset or bus device reset occurred -- (asc=0x29, ascq=0x00)
> >
>
> If your MB-setup support UDMA, try set this option for secondary master
> to 'Disabled' instead of 'Auto' or 'Enabled'.
No it was a bad drive, I bought a new drive yesterday and all is well
now. Everything was setup correctly before the drive was just going bad
so the kernel would puke when mounting it and produce those errors.
--
From: Frank Hale
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ICQ: 7205161
Website: http://www.franksstuff.com/
"I say line-ux you say lynn-ux,
whats the difference? Its still better than windows"
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Advice for Microsoft-haters
Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 17:51:46 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Michael Powe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>
> >>>>> "david" == david perron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> david> I agree. However, I felt the need to correct a really
> david> stupid statement made by someone to the effect that the
> david> first computer was built in England. This guy (don't
> david> remember who it was) then proceeded to define a computer
> david> as...you guessed it...what was first built in England.
> david> This was mighty Clinton-esque of him. The fact that this
> david> statement was made in answer to an equally stupid statement
> david> that the computer was invented in the US didn't excuse it.
>
> Well, if this refers to me, it's inaccurate. I did not write that the
> first computer was built in England, I wrote that it was invented in
> England. So, you're tilting against a windmill & denouncing a
> statement that never was made. Since all the accounts I have seen
> derive the modern computer from the abacus and Babbage's Analytical
> Engine, -- in no way, shape or form did Americans "invent" the
> computer.
>
Well, it's crap this way, too. Computers were NOT invented in England.
Babbage invented the Difference Engine, which never actually worked. The
Difference Engine was supposed to be a mechanical computer. There's an
ENORMOUS difference between the way a mechanical computer works and the way a
digital, electronic computer works. If you say this is "the" computer
invention, it's just as valid for me to say the first computer was a
biological brain. After all, it does image and audio processing and also
interprets instincts into neural commands. Your insistance that England can
claim credit for the first computer invention is just asinine.
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