Linux-Misc Digest #875, Volume #18                Wed, 3 Feb 99 07:13:10 EST

Contents:
  Re: A newbie versus "vi" (James Youngman)
  I'm loosing memory!!! ("F. Javier Heredia")
  Re: Login Shell (Paul Kimoto)
  Bunch of pretentious Wankers ("al")
  Re: Linux apps in win2000 port news! ("Iain Bennett")
  Re: Advice for Microsoft-haters ("Ciaran Dunn")
  redhat slow (Gordon Vrdoljak)
  Linux on a Toshiba Portege 7010? ("Frank Kopp")
  Re: Advice for Microsoft-haters ("Matt Penfold")
  Re: Strange prob w/telnet (John Strange)
  Re: Unix/Advanced Computing People (Matthias Buelow)
  Laserjet 1100 Printing problems (Johan Mjones)
  Help: FTP hang Solaris 2.6->Redhat 5.2 ("Arthur P. Smith")
  Re: Advice for Microsoft-haters (Paul Flinders)

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From: James Youngman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: A newbie versus "vi"
Date: 01 Feb 1999 23:12:43 +0000

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (D. Dale Gulledge) writes:

> Neil Zanella <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > Because ESC is out of the way. It would be nice if we could map
> > 
> > the ms-windows symbol that comes with 104-keyboards to ESC.
> > Then vi would be quicker.
> > 
> > Linux does not seem to recognize the MSwin key.
> 
> I managed to remap it under X Windows.  I'm not on my home system,
> so I don't have a copy of my .xmodmaprc file here, 

Mine is:-

!
! This is an `xmodmap' input file for 
!   Microsoft `Natural' 105 key (Linux/XFree86; US) keyboards.
! Automatically generated on Sat Jan  9 12:29:19 1999 by james with
! XKeyCaps 2.38; Copyright (c) 1997 Jamie Zawinski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>.
! http://people.netscape.com/jwz/xkeycaps/
!
! This file presupposes that the keyboard is in the default state, and
! may malfunction if it is not.
!
remove Lock    = Caps_Lock
remove Mod2    = Num_Lock
remove Mod5    = Mode_switch Mode_switch

keycode 0x6F =  Print   Execute
keycode 0x4E =  Scroll_Lock
keycode 0x6E =  Pause   Break
keycode 0x31 =  grave   notsign bar     bar
keycode 0x0A =  1       exclam  onesuperior     exclamdown
keycode 0x0B =  2       quotedbl        twosuperior     oneeighth
keycode 0x0C =  3       sterling        threesuperior   sterling
keycode 0x0D =  4       dollar  onequarter      dollar
keycode 0x0E =  5       percent onehalf threeeighths
keycode 0x0F =  6       asciicircum     threequarters   fiveeighths
keycode 0x10 =  7       ampersand       braceleft       seveneighths
keycode 0x11 =  8       asterisk        bracketleft     trademark
keycode 0x12 =  9       parenleft       bracketright    plusminus
keycode 0x13 =  0       parenright      braceright      degree
keycode 0x14 =  minus   underscore      backslash       questiondown
keycode 0x15 =  equal   plus    dead_cedilla    dead_ogonek
keycode 0x16 =  BackSpace
keycode 0x4D =  Num_Lock        Pointer_EnableKeys
keycode 0x17 =  Tab     ISO_Left_Tab
keycode 0x18 =  q       Q       at      Greek_OMEGA
keycode 0x19 =  w       W       lstroke Lstroke
keycode 0x1B =  r       R       paragraph       registered
keycode 0x1C =  t       T       tslash  Tslash
keycode 0x1D =  y       Y       leftarrow       yen
keycode 0x1E =  u       U       downarrow       uparrow
keycode 0x1F =  i       I       rightarrow      idotless
keycode 0x20 =  o       O       oslash  Ooblique
keycode 0x21 =  p       P       thorn   THORN
keycode 0x22 =  bracketleft     braceleft       dead_diaeresis  dead_abovering
keycode 0x23 =  bracketright    braceright      dead_tilde      dead_macron
keycode 0x4F =  KP_Home KP_7
keycode 0x50 =  KP_Up   KP_8
keycode 0x51 =  KP_Prior        KP_9
keycode 0x42 =  Control_L
keycode 0x26 =  a       A       ae      AE
keycode 0x27 =  s       S       ssharp  section
keycode 0x28 =  d       D       eth     ETH
keycode 0x29 =  f       F       dstroke ordfeminine
keycode 0x2A =  g       G       eng     ENG
keycode 0x2B =  h       H       hstroke Hstroke
keycode 0x2D =  k       K       kra     ampersand
keycode 0x2E =  l       L       lstroke Lstroke
keycode 0x2F =  semicolon       colon   dead_acute      dead_doubleacute
keycode 0x30 =  apostrophe      at      dead_circumflex dead_caron
keycode 0x33 =  numbersign      asciitilde      dead_grave      dead_breve
keycode 0x53 =  KP_Left KP_4
keycode 0x54 =  KP_Begin        KP_5
keycode 0x55 =  KP_Right        KP_6
keycode 0x5E =  backslash       bar     bar     brokenbar
keycode 0x34 =  z       Z       guillemotleft   less
keycode 0x35 =  x       X       guillemotright  greater
keycode 0x36 =  c       C       cent    copyright
keycode 0x37 =  v       V       leftdoublequotemark     grave
keycode 0x38 =  b       B       rightdoublequotemark    apostrophe
keycode 0x3A =  m       M       mu      masculine
keycode 0x3B =  comma   less    horizconnector  multiply
keycode 0x3C =  period  greater periodcentered  division
keycode 0x3D =  slash   question        dead_belowdot   dead_abovedot
keycode 0x57 =  KP_End  KP_1
keycode 0x58 =  KP_Down KP_2
keycode 0x59 =  KP_Next KP_3
keycode 0x73 =  Meta_L
keycode 0x40 =  Meta_L
keycode 0x71 =  Meta_R
keycode 0x74 =  Meta_R
keycode 0x75 =  Menu
keycode 0x6D =  Control_R
keycode 0x5A =  KP_Insert       KP_0
keycode 0x5B =  KP_Delete       KP_Decimal

add    Control = Control_L Control_R
add    Mod1    = Meta_R Meta_R Meta_L


-- 
ACTUALLY reachable as @free-lunch.demon.(whitehouse)co.uk:james+usenet

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From: "F. Javier Heredia" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: I'm loosing memory!!!
Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 11:40:47 +0100


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Hi to all. I'm really worry about the following problem

I'm using Slackware 3.2 (kernel 2.0.29) on a Pentium 166 with 256Mb
of memory (2*168Mb DIMM's, EDO 100MHz, TX Motherboard), recently
updated froom 64Mb.

The problem is that I'm loosing memory when I compile a FORTRAN
application. Before the first compilation the output of the
"free" command is:

cthulhu:~# free
       total       used       free     shared    buffers    cached
Mem:  255588      30660     224928      23108       1636     16220
-/+ buffers:            12804     242784
Swap:        32252          0      32252

The following table shows the "used" and "free" memory, according to the

"free" command, after a sequence of compilations of the same
application (Absoft FORTRAN 77 compiler)

       total       used       free     shared    buffers    cached
Mem:  255588      57660     197928      23112      22052     21432
Mem:  255588      79452     176136      23120      42340          21476
Mem:  255588     101272     154316      23196      62692          21568
Mem:  255588     124800     130788      23196      83108          23300
Mem:  255588     148072     107516      26304     103396          23436
Mem:  255588     168180      87408      22828     123748          23448
Mem:  255588     189820      65768      22844     144036          23448
Mem:  255588     211528      44060      22844     164388          23448
Mem:  255588     233168      22420      22844     184676          23448
Mem:  255588     249708       5880      22552     200952          22544
Mem:  255588     249708       5880      22552     200020          23448
Mem:  255588     249708       5880      22552     200020          23448

It seems that, after each compilation, more than 20Mb of memory are
lost, till the free memory is 5880Kb, when the memory drop stops.
To complicate the situation, after this sequence of compilations
I started four Netscape's and then I kill them: after this operation
the memory state was:

       total       used       free     shared    buffers    cached
Mem:  255588     241744      13844      22580     190832          23532
                             -----
So, it seems that starting and exiting several applications the system
recovered about 8000Kb. I don't understand nothing!!!!

If you see the existing processes with "ps -aux" after each compilation,

they are the always same, and, after the information provided by the
command "ps -aux", the total memory used by this processes is always the

same and are significantively below the value of used memory shown by
the command  "free".

Please, HELP ME !!!!!

Thanks in advance.

Javier

--
................................................................
 F. Javier Heredia                 :
 Statistics and Op. Research Dept. : e-mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Univ. Politecnica de Catalunya    : phone. : +34-3-401-73-35
 FME. Edifici U, Campus Sud        : FAX    : +34-3-401-58-55
 c. Pau Gargallo 5,                :
 08071 Barcelona. Spain            :
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<HTML>
<TT>Hi to all. I'm really worry about the following problem</TT>

<P><TT>I'm using Slackware 3.2 (kernel 2.0.29) on a Pentium 166 with 256Mb</TT>
<BR><TT>of memory (2*168Mb DIMM's, EDO 100MHz, TX Motherboard), recently</TT>
<BR><TT>updated froom 64Mb.</TT>

<P><TT>The problem is that I'm loosing memory when I compile a FORTRAN</TT>
<BR><TT>application. Before the first compilation the output of the</TT>
<BR><TT>"free" command is:</TT>

<P><TT>cthulhu:~# free</TT>
<BR><TT>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; total&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
used&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; free&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
shared&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
buffers&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; cached</TT>
<BR><TT>Mem:&nbsp; 255588&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 30660&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
224928&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 23108&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
1636&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 16220</TT>
<BR><TT>-/+ buffers:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
12804&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 242784</TT>
<BR><TT>Swap:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
32252&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
0&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 32252</TT>

<P><TT>The following table shows the "used" and "free" memory, according
to the</TT>
<BR><TT>"free" command, after a sequence of compilations of the same</TT>
<BR><TT>application (Absoft FORTRAN 77 compiler)</TT>

<P><TT>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; total&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
used&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; free&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
shared&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
buffers&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; cached</TT>
<BR><TT>Mem:&nbsp; 255588&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 57660&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
197928&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 23112&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
22052&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 21432</TT>
<BR><TT>Mem:&nbsp; 255588&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 79452&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
176136&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 23120&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
42340</TT>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <TT>21476</TT>
<BR><TT>Mem:&nbsp; 255588&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 101272&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
154316&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 23196&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
62692</TT>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <TT>21568</TT>
<BR><TT>Mem:&nbsp; 255588&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 124800&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
130788&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 23196&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
83108</TT>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <TT>23300</TT>
<BR><TT>Mem:&nbsp; 255588&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 148072&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
107516&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 26304&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
103396</TT>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
<TT>23436</TT>
<BR><TT>Mem:&nbsp; 255588&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 168180&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
87408&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 22828&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
123748</TT>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
<TT>23448</TT>
<BR><TT>Mem:&nbsp; 255588&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 189820&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
65768&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 22844&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
144036</TT>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
<TT>23448</TT>
<BR><TT>Mem:&nbsp; 255588&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 211528&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
44060&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 22844&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
164388</TT>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
<TT>23448</TT>
<BR><TT>Mem:&nbsp; 255588&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 233168&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
22420&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 22844&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
184676</TT>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
<TT>23448</TT>
<BR><TT>Mem:&nbsp; 255588&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
249708&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
5880&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 22552&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
200952</TT>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
<TT>22544</TT>
<BR><TT>Mem:&nbsp; 255588&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
249708&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
5880&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 22552&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
200020</TT>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
<TT>23448</TT>
<BR><TT>Mem:&nbsp; 255588&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
249708&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
5880&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 22552&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
200020</TT>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
<TT>23448</TT>

<P><TT>It seems that, after each compilation, more than 20Mb of memory
are</TT>
<BR><TT>lost, till the free memory is 5880Kb, when the memory drop stops.</TT>
<BR><TT>To complicate the situation, after this sequence of compilations</TT>
<BR><TT>I started four Netscape's and then I kill them: after this operation</TT>
<BR><TT>the memory state was:</TT><TT></TT>

<P><TT>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; total&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
used&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; free&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
shared&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
buffers&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; cached</TT>
<BR><TT>Mem:&nbsp; 255588&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 241744&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
13844&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 22580&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
190832</TT>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
<TT>23532</TT>
<BR><TT>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
=====</TT>
<BR><TT>So, it seems that starting and exiting several applications the
system</TT>
<BR><TT>recovered about 8000Kb. I don't understand nothing!!!!</TT>

<P><TT>If you see the existing processes with "ps -aux" after each compilation,</TT>
<BR><TT>they are the always same, and, after the information provided by
the</TT>
<BR><TT>command "ps -aux", the total memory used by this processes is always
the</TT>
<BR><TT>same and are significantively below the value of used memory shown
by</TT>
<BR><TT>the command</TT>&nbsp; <TT>"free".</TT>

<P><TT>Please, HELP ME !!!!!</TT>

<P><TT>Thanks in advance.</TT>

<P><TT>Javier</TT>

<P><TT>--</TT>
<BR><TT>................................................................</TT>
<BR><TT>&nbsp;F. Javier 
Heredia&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
:</TT>
<BR><TT>&nbsp;Statistics and Op. Research Dept. : e-mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED]</TT>
<BR><TT>&nbsp;Univ. Politecnica de Catalunya&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; : phone.
: +34-3-401-73-35</TT>
<BR><TT>&nbsp;FME. Edifici U, Campus Sud&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
: FAX&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; : +34-3-401-58-55</TT>
<BR><TT>&nbsp;c. Pau Gargallo 
5,&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
:</TT>
<BR><TT>&nbsp;08071 Barcelona. 
Spain&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
:</TT>
<BR><TT>................................................................</TT>
<BR>&nbsp;</HTML>

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Kimoto)
Subject: Re: Login Shell
Date: 2 Feb 1999 14:23:53 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Johan Kullstam wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Kimoto) writes:
>> $ EDITOR=pico; VISUAL=pico; export EDITOR VISUAL
>> 
>> (where "$" is just the prompt).  Put the commands in your ~/.bashrc
>> file to have them apply to every shell you run.

> put all environment variables in ~/.bash_profile (or ~/.profile).  you
> only need declare them once and everything will inherit them.

Depends.  If you do something like

$ rsh -n otherhost exec xterm -display $DISPLAY &

then the shell in that other xterm will not pick up any envvars defined
in ~/.bash_profile (or ~/.profile, or ~/.bash_login).

-- 
Paul Kimoto             <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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From: "al" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Bunch of pretentious Wankers
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 21:27:34 +1100

Who really gives a fuck if Britain or Us is the best as long as you idiots
stay where you are and don't pollute the rest of the world by moving
elsewhere.
 Stop wasting bandwidth and discuss something useful.



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From: "Iain Bennett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux apps in win2000 port news!
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 17:03:40 -0500


Bill Crosby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>Ya, Hummingbird Communications has been doing this for awhile. Its fair,
but no where compares to the Linux OS. Linux X11 emulating a MS environment
is more
>stable than MS Windows emulating a X11 Linux environment. NT crashes (BSOD)
too much when pushed by heavy apps.
> http://www.hummingbird.com/products/nc/exceed/index.html

Exceed is simply an X windowing evironment for Windows, it is hardly an
emulator for UNIX.





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From: "Ciaran Dunn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Advice for Microsoft-haters
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 17:05:39 +1100


Larry wrote in message ...
>You people have no idea what technology is. Wait till you see the
>next offering the military comes out with in smart weapons, not
>to mention the next "black aircraft" project.
>
>The latest is the f-22. The most advanced aircraft in the world.


And what will all this high tech weaponry tech get you ?

What has it done in Iraq or regions of the former Yugoslavia.
What are you gonna do with your nice new toys ? Blow them
into the stone age ? Pax Americana via extinction ?

All you seem to be doing is letting off some nice pretty weapons,
killing a bunch of reasonably innocent people and not really
acheiving anything.

Cheers,
Ciaran




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From: Gordon Vrdoljak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: redhat slow
Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 14:48:11 -0800

Hello,
I've got redhat 5.2 running on a Pentium II 266 with 64 megs of ram,
1.25 gig hard disk with
128megs of swap space, a G200 graphics card, with the 2.0.36 kernel, and
Xfree86 3330.
The system appears to run slow, especially while running staroffice.
Can anyone recommend a way
of speeding up the system performance?  Would more memory or compiling
the kernel with the
latest release help me out?

I was also wondering why running top says there are two users when I am
the only one
logged into the system.  I do who - and it says only my own login.
I also notice that when running Star office and quitting left a program
running by root -
control panel.  Which I had to login as root and kill.  I don't know if
star office started this or
somehow it got left behind.  Is it okay to kill processes like this that
just get out of control and eat
CPU resources?

Another question, I'd like to be able to have general users be able to
reboot the computer so that they can use windows NT on the same
computer.  I wouldn't like them having the root password though.  I
tried doing man sudo which someone suggested, but I have no such command
on
my operating system.


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From: "Frank Kopp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup,de.comp.os.unix.linux.hardware,de.comp.os.unix.linux.misc
Subject: Linux on a Toshiba Portege 7010?
Date: 3 Feb 1999 10:00:57 GMT

Hi folks,

has anybody experiences with Linux on a Toshiba Portege 7010?
I wonder if there are problems with the CD Rom drive because it's only in
the docking station.
Does the internal modem work?

There are a lot of questions. Perhaps somebody is willing to help me and
the other readers.

Thank you very much

regards
Frank Kopp

E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
office:
ProSieben DigitalMedia                Tel: 089 / 9507-8428
Medienallee 7                              Fax: 089 / 9507-8118
85774 Unterfoehring


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From: "Matt Penfold" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Advice for Microsoft-haters
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 11:28:18 -0000


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
<797dvd$fc0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>  Michael Powe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>>
>> >>>>> "david" == david perron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>
>>     david> I agree.  However, I felt the need to correct a really
>>     david> stupid statement made by someone to the effect that the
>>     david> first computer was built in England. This guy (don't
>>     david> remember who it was) then proceeded to define a computer
>>     david> as...you guessed it...what was first built in England.
>>     david> This was mighty Clinton-esque of him. The fact that this
>>     david> statement was made in answer to an equally stupid statement
>>     david> that the computer was invented in the US didn't excuse it.
>>
>> Well, if this refers to me, it's inaccurate.  I did not write that the
>> first computer was built in England, I wrote that it was invented in
>> England.  So, you're tilting against a windmill & denouncing a
>> statement that never was made.  Since all the accounts I have seen
>> derive the modern computer from the abacus and Babbage's Analytical
>> Engine, -- in no way, shape or form did Americans "invent" the
>> computer.
>>
>
>Well, it's crap this way, too. Computers were NOT invented in England.
>Babbage invented the Difference Engine, which never actually worked.  The
>Difference Engine was supposed to be a mechanical computer.  There's an
>ENORMOUS difference between the way a mechanical computer works and the way
a
>digital, electronic computer works.  If you say this is "the" computer
>invention, it's just as valid for me to say the first computer was a
>biological brain.  After all, it does image and audio processing and also
>interprets instincts into neural commands. Your insistance that England can
>claim credit for the first computer invention is just asinine.
>


Oh dear, Yet another person who seems to have little graps of history.

(1) The problem Babbage had with his Difference engine was not in the
design, but in that the manufacturing processes at the time were simply not
capable of machining components to required tolerances. It may be of
interest for you to know that the Science Musuem in London recently built
the difference engine. It worked. No bugs, no nothing. The design was 100%
sound.

(2) First Electronic Computer - Manchaster University, UK. 1948. Team was
led by Prof Tom Kilburn (Still alive). It used CRT as a memory. By any
reckoning this was a true 'computer', and since it was done before anyone
else, must be the first. There is currently a project that aims to replicate
this computer, and even plans to make use of some of the original parts
which survive to this day.

One would hope that those who accuse other of making assinine statements
would have the sense to research the facts first!

Matt Penfold
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Strange)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Strange prob w/telnet
Date: 2 Feb 1999 22:43:55 GMT

Works as designed. 
This is a security feature.
Create a user account for yourself on
the target machine.  Rlogin/telnet what ever.
su - root  make your changes.

There is one file you missed.

James D. McIninch ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: We have several machines w/various kinds of Linux on our net and
: one have the following bizarre problem: it does not permit incoming
: telnet connections. Before you jump all over this one:

: I'm not trying to login as root (I don't even get as far as a
: login prompt, attempts to connect simply stall).

: /etc/hosts.allow and /etc/hosts.deny are empty so any
: connection should be allowed.

: /usr/sbin/in.telnetd is exactly where and what it should be.

: The inetd.conf entry for telnet is:
: telnet  stream  tcp  nowait  root  /usr/sbin/tcpd  in.telnetd

: And, /var/log/secure reports that it is turning away connection
: requests from host "unknown" (despite the fact that the DNS is
: working for the entire network, including, apparently, the
: machine refusing the requests).

: Other incidental information about the troublesome machine:
: RedHat Linux 5.1 w/ kernel 2.0.34 (not 2.0.34-1), using 3com
: PCMCIA ethernet (3c574).

: Any ideas?

--
While Alcatel may claim ownership of all my ideas (on or off the job),
Alcatel does not claim any responsibility for them. Warranty expired when u
opened this article and I will not be responsible for its contents or use.

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Crossposted-To: 
comp.unix.programmer,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.unix.misc,comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: Unix/Advanced Computing People
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthias Buelow)
Date: 3 Feb 99 11:29:41 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Lakshmi Natarajan  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>I live in lower Westchester county, New York. I have got Linux on my PC
>and
>have been studying Richard Stevens' APUE as well as Bach's The Unix
>Operating System. I am interested in Unix system programming,
>administration, OS kernels, network programming, parallel processing
>(don't
>know much about it), Perl, Tcl/Tk, C, C++, Java, ... the whole bit!

The books you have mentioned are very good, especially the Steven's
(his network programming volumes are excellent aswell).  The Bach
book is good too, although a little outdated (it describes System V
how it was in the 80'ies).

Other excellent books (listed off the top of my head) are
McKusick et. al., "The Design and Implementation of the 4.4BSD
operating system" (also worth reading if you're not interested
in the BSD system in particular since the architecture description
holds true for most Unix systems), Uresh Vahalia, "Unix Internals -
The New Frontiers", which discusses system level similarities and
differences between the various flavours of Unix used today and most
books of the O'Reilly series (most bookshops with computer literature
have them) which are good introductory books to various aspects of
using, administrating and programming Unix.


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Johan Mjones)
Subject: Laserjet 1100 Printing problems
Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 11:25:27 GMT

Hello,

I've recently moved from RH to Slackware 3.6, and I'm trying to set up
at HP LJ 1100 printer on it. I'm using APS-filter, I have set up the
printer on the correct port (I've tried 'cat atextfile > /dev/lp1' and
it works), but how do I test if the printer can print postscript now?

I've tried 'gs -sDEVICE=ljet4 apsfile.ps', but GS simply starts up,
halts for a second, the displays "showpage, press return....", and I
end up at the GS prompt (and, of course, nothing is printed =/ )

Help? =)

Regards,

Johan

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From: "Arthur P. Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.sys.sun.admin,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.protocols.tcp-ip,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Help: FTP hang Solaris 2.6->Redhat 5.2
Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 17:59:47 -0500

I'm experiencing a problem with FTP regularly hanging going from a
series of Solaris 2.6
boxes (and even one 2.5, but not a machine running Solaris 7, at least
so far) to a server
running Linux RedHat 5.2, with the wu-ftpd (2.4.2 beta 18).

The ftp session always starts ok, but if I run an mget to get a bunch of
files, I can get
maybe 1- 2 dozen (the number varies a lot) and then it hangs getting one
of the files.
The hang is at least 2 minutes long (generally the files take only
seconds to transfer) and it does
not recover while I wait.  If I hit Ctrl-C it looks like the entire file
did transfer, but it was waiting
for something to finish or close?

Please send me email  if you have any clues- I'm not sure when I'll get
a chance to check the
newsgroup again. I did look through Deja News and found nothing. Thanks,

                     Arthur Smith ([EMAIL PROTECTED])


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From: Paul Flinders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Advice for Microsoft-haters
Date: 03 Feb 1999 11:45:12 +0000


"Matt Penfold" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Oh dear, Yet another person who seems to have little graps of history.
> 
> (1) The problem Babbage had with his Difference engine was not in the
> design, but in that the manufacturing processes at the time were simply not
                                                  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> capable of machining components to required tolerances. It may be of
  ^^^^^^^
> interest for you to know that the Science Musuem in London recently built
> the difference engine. It worked. No bugs, no nothing. The design was 100%
> sound.

Part of Difference enging No 1 _was_ built, and demonstrated to be working
at the time although I believe that it was never completed.

The Science Museum engine was built using materials which were available at
the time and engineering tolerances which could have been achieved at the
time.

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